There are few things which can improve Olympiad popularity. Maybe players will post some changes easy to make for drake. It normal that we can see the best how to change chars we playing now because we know them the best. Please don't make nonsense posting :]
there is just one solution
enter on retail
imo
Quote from: trooperXkoki on June 14, 2010, 10:14:50 PM
there is just one solution
enter on retail
imo
mutants pwnz ;D
Quote from: trooperXkoki on June 14, 2010, 11:59:54 PM
retail = 1 class = mutant :O
i use the word "retail" for the official subclass ... and sub to our substack :D
for me retail = the class that u use to make mutant :D
well....the 9x sub system is cool for oly (in some parts) but the rest is kinda fcked up :D
No1 wants to join Oly cause they have almost no chances vs +++items ... Even more - too much chars are f*cked-up now, and it's impossible to fight at all , even with good gear !
To see more people at Oly is needed to improove some not popular now classes !
And maybe add some rooms for mutants till they can fight and become hero ! Like special Mutant Oly :P
This is my own opinion, and is just an idea :)
Oly atm is mostly about transfer than any other thing, besides some few farmers that have a lot of points each month i could say more than 50% r made by transfer.
Here some suggestions:
- add some system that after game end all skills will be rdy again, tankers for example need to w8 a lot of time to have their UD's back to play again.
- add some way to prevent players with lot of points play with people with lower points, this could help make people with low/medium equips to play oly, this wont help on begining of month, but in the middle will make people with low points fight with low points, so they also can have some fun.
- play on retail would be interesting, it dont even need to make special system to make it possible, and if some mutant char play on oly ban him for 1 month and people wont try to use then on oly.
Also would be interesting to have Underground Coliseum system working on NM.
Here is oly made so much better. DN oly can hide against this one!! :D
http://www.lineage2thegame.com/connect.php
PS. dont know if this is same as retail or made costum by admins :D
the problem are daggers, they make to much dmg, 2 hits and kill everything, now only daggers and few other ppls play olys
Quote from: ribera on June 15, 2010, 08:52:43 PM
the problem are daggers, they make to much dmg, 2 hits and kill everything, now only daggers and few other ppls play olys
And uou tell me that daggers are the problem now in oly? cause i see that glads/ty's/necro-pp are bigger problems than them.
Quote from: VforVanilla on June 15, 2010, 09:18:19 PM
And uou tell me that daggers are the problem now in oly? cause i see that glads/ty's/necro-pp are bigger problems than them.
let me guess... ur a dagger right? :D
Quote from: ZEFEROT on June 15, 2010, 08:47:41 AM
No1 wants to join Oly cause they have almost no chances vs +++items ... Even more - too much chars are f*cked-up now, and it's impossible to fight at all , even with good gear !
To see more people at Oly is needed to improove some not popular now classes !
And maybe add some rooms for mutants till they can fight and become hero ! Like special Mutant Oly :P
This is my own opinion, and is just an idea :)
+1 ;D
Change whatever u want, the real farmers will always find way to farm everyone x)
Quote from: spashqq on June 15, 2010, 09:53:13 PM
Change whatever u want, the real farmers will always find way to farm everyone x)
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Very nice replays, specially i like weezers suggestions . It's balance for olypmiad if tank and orcs could start without 20min waiting for skills, those chars are dangerous for mages and daggers but they cant compete with them becouse of this huge difference. I dont know how hard its to make but i think that its possible.
Another thing is that chars get full hp which is huge nerf on orcs and good balance, but they dont get full mana. Full mana could be fair because when u buff your self with soes+btb and u are unlucky to get this buff, sometimes u start with less then 50% mana.
At least reuse delay of skills would improve oly a bit, would make more people play on oly, cause w8 10-15 mins to have skills back to play another game is a shit.
But in my opinion the thing that would improve it more would make oly played only on retail class (need code against participation of hybrid or like i said in previous post ban then for 1 month), like this oly would be more balanced, cause people will play only with 1 sub, we would watch more interesting games than we have atm.
Some classes that now r OP like most people say would need to be played with experienced players to become hero.
It would be cool to watch games like retail server.
Quote from: Weezer on June 17, 2010, 07:30:44 PM
At least reuse delay of skills would improve oly a bit, would make more people play on oly, cause w8 10-15 mins to have skills back to play another game is a shit.
But in my opinion the thing that would improve it more would make oly played only on retail class (need code against participation of hybrid or like i said in previous post ban then for 1 month), like this oly would be more balanced, cause people will play only with 1 sub, we would watch more interesting games than we have atm.
Some classes that now r OP like most people say would need to be played with experienced players to become hero.
It would be cool to watch games like retail server.
it's worth waiting... tanks have 4 uds against mages and 3 against fighters.. let them reuse the skills or join w/o lol... joining every fight with this skills is far from improvement ... same goes for orcs frenzy or zealot or w/e they reuse... o/p skills worth w8ing or if u feel pro and lucky join w/o...
and the retail thing will never happen..
Others chars have power full skills also, orc have frenzy, tank have ud. Look at oly and u will see that dagger and mages win very easy with orcs and tank with skills reused. Difference is that mages and daggers fight more and they can learn better how to win.
IF u anybody wanna call other player "franzy noob" or "ud noob" think about calling ppl "blow noob" or "spike noob", its the same. All characters have skills and all should be able to USE THEM LIKE OTHERS! Its about making Olympiad fair for all.
Quote from: cthon on June 17, 2010, 07:37:51 PM
it's worth waiting... tanks have 4 uds against mages and 3 against fighters.. let them reuse the skills or join w/o lol... joining every fight with this skills is far from improvement ... same goes for orcs frenzy or zealot or w/e they reuse... o/p skills worth w8ing or if u feel pro and lucky join w/o...
and the retail thing will never happen..
Tanks and Orcs have problems with reuse skills, but if u check atm we dont have too much people joining oly on those classes, except for some TY/WC (great char atm for oly), improve oly isnt only for those classes, in my 1st post on this topic i explained about system to make games between people with same "range" of oly points, i think this would make oly more interesting for people.
With system like this farmers will keep farming, but will need to farm people with high points too, and people with low points will fight each other, so they have a chance to win and have some fun on oly.
I agree with u that retail oly we will never have on NM, but is still a good and interesting option, retail fights r far better to watch than 1-2 hit fight at oly.
Quote from: Weezer on June 18, 2010, 01:33:16 PM
Tanks and Orcs have problems with reuse skills, but if u check atm we dont have too much people joining oly on those classes, except for some TY/WC (great char atm for oly), improve oly isnt only for those classes, in my 1st post on this topic i explained about system to make games between people with same "range" of oly points, i think this would make oly more interesting for people.
With system like this farmers will keep farming, but will need to farm people with high points too, and people with low points will fight each other, so they have a chance to win and have some fun on oly.
I agree with u that retail oly we will never have on NM, but is still a good and interesting option, retail fights r far better to watch than 1-2 hit fight at oly.
retail will be best... and yeah the idea with range pts is also good but i dont agree with skills reuse , wanna fight all uds then wait
Quote from: cthon on June 18, 2010, 02:20:50 PM
retail will be best... and yeah the idea with range pts is also good but i dont agree with skills reuse , wanna fight all uds then wait
The worst part of all is tha t we keep discussing about thingsthat wont happen on NM. :D
Retail is best option to bring back fun from olympiad.
And i dont see why some ppl afraid that mutant will enter. Some of them may enter and now, but they dont cuz there is clear rule that oly is forbiden for mutants. Entering in oly like mutant is easy to be prooved so i dont think someone will risk to enter inside and risk his mutant just for one night fun.
In other hand im not sure if that is possible to be coded ( i mean entering only on retail.)
Another optison is ( but depend if that is possible to be coded too) in entering in oly second sub to be forbiden for use.
i will repeat it again nerft daggers a lot, maybe glads and tyrants a little like u nerfed sps/ee in the past, this will balance olys not 100% but at least 50% and u will start to see much more ppls playing.
Quote from: ribera on June 19, 2010, 09:56:32 AM
i will repeat it again nerft daggers a lot, maybe glads and tyrants a little like u nerfed sps/ee in the past, this will balance olys not 100% but at least 50% and u will start to see much more ppls playing.
ye, nerf daggers more, they already miss half of blows :D
Quote from: ribera on June 19, 2010, 09:56:32 AM
i will repeat it again nerft daggers a lot, maybe glads and tyrants a little like u nerfed sps/ee in the past, this will balance olys not 100% but at least 50% and u will start to see much more ppls playing.
i really want to know what class you are cause i hit glad / tyrant in oly with atr skills max 900 dmg while tyrant do to me at least 1k dmg on simple hits and glads 1.5k wo critical. If you are mage without atr resistance buff just accept it cause u know very well if you got themyou get sh1t dmg outside oly.
Quote from: mark_elesse on June 19, 2010, 09:12:29 PM
make retail oly ... balancing the current subclass system for olimpiad is almost impossible....
y, its impossible
Disable oly.
Maybe do smth about oly full of dagger chars only?
From things easy to make - mana should be full like hp when countdown ends. Nice improve for fighters chars in oly. It could make start easier.
In my opinion dagger are overpowered, so i agree with ppl who speak about nerf on them.
And i believe some things can change on our server if gm will take care about it.
Quote from: sziii on June 21, 2010, 10:20:06 PM
Now im totaly sure about treasure hunters. With 17k patk + zealot [2x dmg from crit] i hit him for max 2k with crit.. thats some serious overpower. After break now i understand why attendance in Olympiad is so bad. There is big need for balance on Nightmare
Pure bullsh1t detected here. In our last match i lost my half and something hp with one hit of yours. You wanna tell me that daggers have wtfpownzor pdef? Big joke...
BTW wanna start crying why bison work with all weapons?
Quote from: sziii on June 21, 2010, 10:20:06 PM
Now im totaly sure about treasure hunters. With 17k patk + zealot [2x dmg from crit] i hit him for max 2k with crit.. thats some serious overpower. After break now i understand why attendance in Olympiad is so bad. There is big need for balance on Nightmare
"There's no big balance in NM"....in 45 seconds u can make ur char have 17k p.atk + zealot. . . kinda..."balanced" huh?
U are wrong about 17k patk in 45 sec , maybe u dont know about balance on orc, i mean full hp on start. That was good balance and server still need to be balanced all the time.
Sooner or later ill learn how to win but this posting it for whole server. Look how many orc and tank type chars play here - how many from them have fun in Olympiad?
We can change it together. Maybe im a dreamer, but i believe - somethings can change
Quote from: Furesy on June 20, 2010, 10:22:30 AM
Disable oly.
the fukt that regardless of your class your opponents can transfer moar, makes oly in all types and views useless. the heroes in some classes are well known even from the start of the month arent they?
mb playing on single class will make it easy for some ppl. and make most of the current oly farmers cry rivers of flames. u cant stop ppl to transfer, tho.
so +1
Gays things u say are fanny. Its like when doctor cutting hand when he is to lazy to heal it. Here server community is this doctor and we have to find the way to make it better. And motivate game master with good ideas.
P.S
Many ppl play here only to fight in Olympiad. Its integral part of Lineage2.
See that so called 'Overpowered olympiad combos' were never a problem, it's all about other stuff
Quote from: our4n0s on June 24, 2010, 07:35:59 PM
See that so called 'Overpowered olympiad combos' were never a problem, it's all about other stuff
yoyo
Quote from: our4n0s on June 24, 2010, 07:35:59 PM
See that so called 'Overpowered olympiad combos' were never a problem, it's all about other stuff
QQ
Maybe now u can remove that retarded mage nerf (casting speed and heal power inside oly)
Quote from: BanThemAll on June 24, 2010, 11:00:39 PM
Maybe now u can remove that retarded mage nerf (casting speed and heal power inside oly)
if all tank nerfs are removed, too. btw i srsly doubt that if ppl have to play singleclassed , the so called oly farmers would be able to score a victory, except on point donors.
Maybe gm can do smth about trick/switch reuse/rate since a th/pp selfbuffed can spam it non stop.
Quote from: BanThemAll on June 25, 2010, 08:39:21 PM
Maybe gm can do smth about trick/switch reuse/rate since a th/pp selfbuffed can spam it non stop.
And have zero mana non stop.
there was another bright idea , to make cancel able to unequip gear xD
Any gm alive or wtf? :D
Remove mage oly nerf its no more needed.
Quote from: BanThemAll on June 28, 2010, 09:44:56 PM
Any gm alive or wtf? :D
Remove mage oly nerf its no more needed.
They are in world cup
What about single point for each fight , it would stop dominating over Olympiad buy few players with big experience and best gear. Just plus one point if u win and minus one point if u loose. What u ppl think about it
Quote from: sziii on June 30, 2010, 09:10:25 PM
What about single point for each fight , it would stop dominating over Olympiad buy few players with big experience and best gear. Just plus one point if u win and minus one point if u loose. What u ppl think about it
nice idea imo
Quote from: sziii on June 30, 2010, 09:10:25 PM
What about single point for each fight , it would stop dominating over Olympiad buy few players with big experience and best gear. Just plus one point if u win and minus one point if u loose. What u ppl think about it
more transfers
Transfer isn't bed thing if u don't understand u cant stop players from decide if they want to fight, sometimes they don't want to take points from friend and its OK. All we need is balance to don't let somebody dominate and take some insane score. There isn't other way to improve Olympiad then balance, fighting with transferring points is a waste of time and its like - cure may be worse than the disease. Slow careful balance will make our Olympiad fun for everyone.
Quote from: sziii on July 03, 2010, 03:18:28 PM
Transfer isn't bed thing if u don't understand u cant stop players from decide if they want to fight, sometimes they don't want to take points from friend and its OK. All we need is balance to don't let somebody dominate and take some insane score. There isn't other way to improve Olympiad then balance, fighting with transferring points is a waste of time and its like - cure may be worse than the disease. Slow careful balance will make our Olympiad fun for everyone.
This shit will make Bog's price go to heaven. Only heroes will be able to get Bogs this way and they will sell them in much higher price cause all others that hardly make 50 points to get some will 95% fail to reach them afterwards cause they should win 50 matches in a row if they don't have points. Reducing the number of points required to get 1000 noblesse gate passes per point is also stupid cause if you do it you should also reduce initial month points that may be unfair to some weak classes.
Quote from: VforVanilla on July 03, 2010, 09:50:16 PM
This shit will make Bog's price go to heaven. Only heroes will be able to get Bogs this way and they will sell them in much higher price cause all others that hardly make 50 points to get some will 95% fail to reach them afterwards cause they should win 50 matches in a row if they don't have points. Reducing the number of points required to get 1000 noblesse gate passes per point is also stupid cause if you do it you should also reduce initial month points that may be unfair to some weak classes.
would be cool iff for simple making dunnol ets say 30 fights person will obtain 2 bogs w/e iff he/she won or nop :P some ppls will say is sh1t idea cuz bots will go join but at least more ppls will fight
Quote from: jygh on July 03, 2010, 10:02:39 PM
would be cool iff for simple making dunnol ets say 30 fights person will obtain 2 bogs w/e iff he/she won or nop :P some ppls will say is sh1t idea cuz bots will go join but at least more ppls will fight
30 fights and join even if u have 0points :D
jin, give me ur bogs and my problem is solved.
::)
Quote from: 666VeNoM on July 04, 2010, 01:12:07 AM
jin, give me ur bogs and my problem is solved.
::)
I have been writing about non sense posting the beginning of this topic, please don't make trash here - use private massages to conversation like this.
Quote from: sziii on July 04, 2010, 11:59:45 AM
I have been writing about non sense posting the beginning of this topic, please don't make trash here - use private massages to conversation like this.
meh. i cant even have a nice talk to jin?
;)
btw: I am favorable to remove buff npc from oly.