only said gf to all
and gz to spain(mi love) ;D ;D
la gente grita con pasion: QUE VIVA ESPAÃ'A!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
teh sak . it was an offside QQ
jealous????
and what u said about sux play so 7 yellow cards and 1 red
when obiusly was 3 red card?
what u wanna said about this:
(http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/445/galeria4.jpg) (http://img293.imageshack.us/i/galeria4.jpg/)
or mby something about van bommel lalalalalal
only gz to robben best player in netherland and sneijder too
go and cry me friend :P
and plis go and show again goal where u see offside???? ahahahahaha
www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ctuvT2Jd4k&feature=related
Quote from: darkaenur on July 12, 2010, 04:30:56 AM
jealous????
and what u said about sux play so 7 yellow cards and 1 red
when obiusly was 3 red card?
what u wanna said about this:
(http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/445/galeria4.jpg) (http://img293.imageshack.us/i/galeria4.jpg/)
or mby something about van bommel lalalalalal
only gz to robben best player in netherland and sneijder too
go and cry me friend :P
and plis go and show again goal where u see offside???? ahahahahaha
www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ctuvT2Jd4k&feature=related
In kent words: "Perfect executed kick"
GG spain
It could be a great final if Uruguay was there QQ
BTW Forlan best player :D
Quote from: Gonzal on July 12, 2010, 05:56:12 AM
GG spain
It could be a great final if Uruguay was there QQ
BTW Forlan best player :D
yeah gz to forlan rly good player
Quote from: darkaenur on July 12, 2010, 04:30:56 AM
jealous????
and what u said about sux play so 7 yellow cards and 1 red
when obiusly was 3 red card?
what u wanna said about this:
(http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/445/galeria4.jpg) (http://img293.imageshack.us/i/galeria4.jpg/)
or mby something about van bommel lalalalalal
only gz to robben best player in netherland and sneijder too
go and cry me friend :P
and plis go and show again goal where u see offside???? ahahahahaha
www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ctuvT2Jd4k&feature=related
Ye right, that was a bad foul. Yes you did won fairly cause on most moments you played alot better. Yet the fact that for every "foul" Netherlands made, Spain were crying for cards. Most of the cards given were on appeal, so gz for that.
Gz to Spain tho, and Forlan for best player.
gz Spain ! 1 < 4
Quote from: FeelmyBow on July 12, 2010, 12:52:16 PM
Ye right, that was a bad foul. Yes you did won fairly cause on most moments you played alot better. Yet the fact that for every "foul" Netherlands made, Spain were crying for cards. Most of the cards given were on appeal, so gz for that.
Gz to Spain tho, and Forlan for best player.
If they deserved cards it's not weird that spanish players asked for'em...and btw,a team in which just two players play cannot win a World Cup ( Robben and Van Persie,they dunno the meaning of "pass the ball" )
he should`ve kick him in the head so u can spam a lot with a reason. it was an offside situation. and if roben scored in all the situations he had, in kent words u should ve perfectly stfu.
Quote from: Teh noob on July 12, 2010, 03:05:15 PM
he should`ve kick him in the head so u can spam a lot with a reason. it was an offside situation. and if roben scored in all the situations he had, in kent words u should ve perfectly stfu.
Keep crying,when my team lose I'm objetive and accept if they played bad or w/e...it seems some ppl cannot do that.
Quote from: Sephiroth on July 12, 2010, 02:49:53 PM
If they deserved cards it's not weird that spanish players asked for'em...and btw,a team in which just two players play cannot win a World Cup ( Robben and Van Persie,they dunno the meaning of "pass the ball" )
I never said they could, yes sometimes they did deserve cards. Altho not everytime and sometimes cards were given on appeal thats what i ment.
Quote from: FeelmyBow on July 12, 2010, 03:28:36 PM
I never said they could, yes sometimes they did deserve cards. Altho not everytime and sometimes cards were given on appeal thats what i ment.
Ye,that's true,but even that doesn't change the fact they deserve'em.
Quote from: Sephiroth on July 12, 2010, 03:38:04 PM
Ye,that's true,but even that doesn't change the fact they deserve'em.
Sometimes they rly didn't if you saw the repeat closely.
Quote from: Sephiroth on July 12, 2010, 03:13:12 PM
Keep crying,when my team lose I'm objetive and accept if they played bad or w/e...it seems some ppl cannot do that.
If Netherlands played "bad" it would end like 3:0 4:0 ,not 1:0 at the very end of the match and with 1 guy less,both teams deserved the cup.
Quote from: IvolveR on July 12, 2010, 03:51:03 PM
If Netherlands played "bad" it would end like 3:0 4:0 ,not 1:0 at the very end of the match and with 1 guy less,both teams deserved the cup.
It's not the only match in which Spain should have won 3:0 or more,but sadly it just ended 1:0.
And no,Holland didn't deserve the cup.
spain took the cup by luck ...
Quote from: Sephiroth on July 12, 2010, 03:55:57 PM
It's not the only match in which Spain should have won 3:0 or more,but sadly it just ended 1:0.
And no,Holland didn't deserve the cup.
lol wtf you mean with that? Like we got in the Final by luck or gambling...
We didnt loose any match untill the final
Quote from: Sephiroth on July 12, 2010, 03:55:57 PM
It's not the only match in which Spain should have won 3:0 or more,but sadly it just ended 1:0.
And no,Holland didn't deserve the cup.
Spain played better than Holland the 1st 15 min of both times, they could win the game easly, but didnt made any goals during that time, also Holland had 2 great chances with Robeen, but he didnt made the goals too.
All people say how Spain was better then other teams in almost all games they won (almost all by 1:0), if they was soo better than other teams why dont make 4:0 in all matches?!? And why loose the 1st match?!?
And both teams deserved the Cup, on finals is more about who will have the chances (both sides had) and who will make (just Spain did).
Quote from: scary on July 12, 2010, 04:18:46 PM
spain took the cup by luck ...
holland won brazil by lucky
and with spain and brazil play like this situation all time:
(http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/445/galeria4.jpg) (http://img293.imageshack.us/i/galeria4.jpg/)
this is football no kung-fu cup, karate kid
and all that said for what spain no win 4:0 or something like this
win is win to all (1.0, 4:0, 2:1)
and if any1 saw this i dont make this post for flame, only for comment with all ppl
holland had great chance too, but just we have iker casillas
i think that all world was thinking that final (brazil-spain, germany-brazil) not holland-spain
for me was surprise that germany won 4:0 to argentina and holland won brazil
and no comment about messi or ferndando torres xDDDDDD
Quote from: FeelmyBow on July 12, 2010, 04:20:21 PM
lol wtf you mean with that? Like we got in the Final by luck or gambling...
We didnt loose any match untill the final
I mean that what holland played wasn't football,rather a lame style of fouls+give the ball to Robben and let's see what happen.
Quote from: Weezer on July 12, 2010, 05:22:31 PM
Spain played better than Holland the 1st 15 min of both times, they could win the game easly, but didnt made any goals during that time, also Holland had 2 great chances with Robeen, but he didnt made the goals too.
All people say how Spain was better then other teams in almost all games they won (almost all by 1:0), if they was soo better than other teams why dont make 4:0 in all matches?!? And why loose the 1st match?!?
And both teams deserved the Cup, on finals is more about who will have the chances (both sides had) and who will make (just Spain did).
Cos even if u win 1:0 u can make a great football,like Spain did.Have u ever watched Barça matches? Their average was near 3 goals per match this year and the last one,but it could have been 5 perfectly,it's all'bout success.If u wanna see a good football match then look at Spanish style rather than Holland style.
Quote from: Sephiroth on July 12, 2010, 07:07:35 PM
Cos even if u win 1:0 u can make a great football,like Spain did.Have u ever watched Barça matches? Their average was near 3 goals per match this year and the last one,but it could have been 5 perfectly,it's all'bout success.If u wanna see a good football match then look at Spanish style rather than Holland style.
I watched many matches of Barça on spanish and champions, they have a great team, and if u compare for those other teams on spanish they must win then by 3 or more of advantage, the other teams r weak if u compare those players (take out Real on comparing).
But even Barça lost to Inter on Milano (3:1), this means Inter is better than Barça?!?
Football is a game that u can play great football and win by 1:0 or 4:0, or even loose by the same score. Spain played better than Holland, but could lost by 2:0 (Robeen lost 2 great chances during normal time), both teams could win in normal time, Holland didnt cause of Cassilas and Spain cause they like to make beautifull goals instead of kicking directly.
Quote from: IvolveR on July 12, 2010, 03:51:03 PM
If Netherlands played "bad" it would end like 3:0 4:0 ,not 1:0 at the very end of the match and with 1 guy less,both teams deserved the cup.
fact is that the Netherlands didn't play gentle, as a neutral match watching person I could say that if the referree would give cards on every position where he should, it would be at least 11 to 9...
Im not only mentioning the regular fouls, but also moments like "pass back after an injury" where it could be a goal if Casillas wasn't alert.
anyway Spain deserved the cup like dutch trainer Van Marwijk said; "the best team has won".
Quote from: Weezer on July 12, 2010, 07:20:10 PM
I watched many matches of Barça on spanish and champions, they have a great team, and if u compare for those other teams on spanish they must win then by 3 or more of advantage, the other teams r weak if u compare those players (take out Real on comparing).
But even Barça lost to Inter on Milano (3:1), this means Inter is better than Barça?!?
Football is a game that u can play great football and win by 1:0 or 4:0, or even loose by the same score. Spain played better than Holland, but could lost by 2:0 (Robeen lost 2 great chances during normal time), both teams could win in normal time, Holland didnt cause of Cassilas and Spain cause they like to make beautifull goals instead of kicking directly.
weezer bro u forget that villa had 1 great chance too and iniesta, sergio ramos other too
hollan could win 2:0 but too lost 2:3
Quote from: darkaenur on July 12, 2010, 07:40:19 PM
weezer bro u forget that villa had 1 great chance too and iniesta, sergio ramos other too
hollan could win 2:0 but too lost 2:3
yes they could, but for me the best football played on WC2010 was from Germany against England and Argentina.
4:1 (4:2) on England and 4:0 on Argentina and the German team playing a wonderfull football.
Quote from: Weezer on July 12, 2010, 11:09:09 PM
yes they could, but for me the best football played on WC2010 was from Germany against England and Argentina.
4:1 (4:2) on England and 4:0 on Argentina and the German team playing a wonderfull football.
hmm but on the other hand Uruguay hasn t so pro players as germany and they show brave , top level football , and what more they give heart to it , best match o this competition was uruguay vs ghana :P and suarez hands ^^
Quote from: mortal on July 12, 2010, 11:14:48 PM
hmm but on the other hand Uruguay hasn t so pro players as germany and they show brave , top level football , and what more they give heart to it , best match o this competition was uruguay vs ghana :P and suarez hands ^^
And could be Uruguay on finals, cause they played against Holland without Lugano and Suarez.
blabla.... 3 pages allready for a clear offside -winning team ...thats too much
Quote from: Teh noob on July 13, 2010, 05:36:37 AM
blabla.... 3 pages allready for a clear offside -winning team ...thats too much
QQ It's not an offside damn...
it is!! ;D ;D
Quote from: Sephiroth on July 13, 2010, 12:06:35 PM
QQ It's not an offside damn...
The minute the goal was made was hilarious, 2 epic fails from the referee in 1 minute.
The entire attack started with the freekick from the Dutch which obviously hit the wall (even a blind man could see that) but was given a goalkeeper kick (lol)
A few seconds later Spain attacked and shot the ball to the front which was off-side but was not given, a Dutch defender blocked the attack and Spain gave another shot which in this turn was not offside and they scored.
The kick from de Jong was really bad and should've been red yea, but maybe lets start about the red cards Spain should have gotten, twice?
The first one being from Puyol clearly obstructing Robben (big time) throwing himself literally in a 180 degree turn around him stopping him from even controlling the ball. If that was not a broken through player (which is red) it hell was a yellow card which would be his 2nd, meaning red.
The second one being the obstruction of Van Persie when he broke through the last line of defenders and was clearly grabbed at his shoulders, that defender was the last defender in the line, which is 100% red by FIFA regulations.
A couple of Dutch fouls were clearly a yellow card, but the referee obviously freaked up the entire match by acting on every lil foul, not letting any actual soccer being played. Not to mention the few yellow cards that were given to Dutch players were major exaggerated while Spain made the exact same fouls and were often not even called against or simply given a free-kick against, but no cards given.
None the less I had a cool evening, so did not matter that much, tho the match was not that good. Still, personally wouldn't say the best team won, since they were pretty equal to each other, with Spain being a bit better at the start of each half, but later on in the match losing control a bit.
That corner not given and off-side attack which led to the goal were the most retarded things from this match though. Oh and Spain players being great actors and whiners at the referee was funny too.
i dont understand rly...both teams knew that an ugly victory is better than beautifully played but lost match. why every one QQ about fouls etc. things like this happen in chess matches even.
Quote from: Teh noob on July 13, 2010, 01:37:18 PM
i dont understand rly...both teams knew that an ugly victory is better than beautifully played but lost match. why every one QQ about fouls etc. things like this happen in chess matches even.
Cos this is football,not kick-boxing,they just made fouls and fouls and fouls...
Quote from: Furesy on July 13, 2010, 01:19:41 PM
The minute the goal was made was hilarious, 2 epic fails from the referee in 1 minute.
The entire attack started with the freekick from the Dutch which obviously hit the wall (even a blind man could see that) but was given a goalkeeper kick (lol)
A few seconds later Spain attacked and shot the ball to the front which was off-side but was not given, a Dutch defender blocked the attack and Spain gave another shot which in this turn was not offside and they scored.
The kick from de Jong was really bad and should've been red yea, but maybe lets start about the red cards Spain should have gotten, twice?
The first one being from Puyol clearly obstructing Robben (big time) throwing himself literally in a 180 degree turn around him stopping him from even controlling the ball. If that was not a broken through player (which is red) it hell was a yellow card which would be his 2nd, meaning red.
The second one being the obstruction of Van Persie when he broke through the last line of defenders and was clearly grabbed at his shoulders, that defender was the last defender in the line, which is 100% red by FIFA regulations.
A couple of Dutch fouls were clearly a yellow card, but the referee obviously freaked up the entire match by acting on every lil foul, not letting any actual soccer being played. Not to mention the few yellow cards that were given to Dutch players were major exaggerated while Spain made the exact same fouls and were often not even called against or simply given a free-kick against, but no cards given.
None the less I had a cool evening, so did not matter that much, tho the match was not that good. Still, personally wouldn't say the best team won, since they were pretty equal to each other, with Spain being a bit better at the start of each half, but later on in the match losing control a bit.
That corner not given and off-side attack which led to the goal were the most retarded things from this match though. Oh and Spain players being great actors and whiners at the referee was funny too.
U'r not being objective,Holland played a dirty game and just gave balls to Robben ( dunno what they thought,one guy cannot win a match,football it's'bout teamwork ).The referee gave Holland less cards than they deserved,and he waited till the 2nd or 3rd foul to give the card to'em while for spanish was at the 1st one ( Ramos and dun remember the other ).
About Spain players being actors and whiners u'r funny Furesy,they got hit hard so they asked for cards,easy to understand I think.And btw,even the coatch admited that the best won,and the FIFA president said he didn't like the roughness of Holland players.
Quote from: Sephiroth on July 13, 2010, 01:53:42 PM
Cos this is football,not kick-boxing,they just made fouls and fouls and fouls...
U'r not being objective,Holland played a dirty game and just gave balls to Robben ( dunno what they thought,one guy cannot win a match,football it's'bout teamwork ).The referee gave Holland less cards than they deserved,and he waited till the 2nd or 3rd foul to give the card to'em while for spanish was at the 1st one ( Ramos and dun remember the other ).
About Spain players being actors and whiners u'r funny Furesy,they got hit hard so they asked for cards,easy to understand I think.And btw,even the coatch admited that the best won,and the FIFA president said he didn't like the roughness of Holland players.
I'm not being objective is a funny joke. especially coming from someone who is from Spain himself (lol)
I know FIFA regulations (and FIFA president? lol that guy is a total joke and a retard, he knows shit about football and only made it to that spot by paying off voters, complete corruption and sucking dks, that guy should be fired already, screw Blatter) and several cards for Dutch players were totally legit (as I stated before, read please)
Holland got cards for fouls that were not even fouls (e.g. once the Dutch player did not even touch the Spanish guy and he fell to the floor and got a yellow card for it, I lol'ed) While Spanish fouls were a lot comparable to the ones the Dutch committed while they hardly received any card for it (e.g. obstruction of Robben and Van Persie, shoulda been both red, same for the Jong's, while Heitinga's 1st Yellow card was hardly a foul, let alone the 2nd one being yellow lol, compare that one to the foul of Puyol or the one on Van Persie, if he got Yellow for that, they should've have gotten deep red)
And Spanish players got hit hard? Seriously, Joke please? Sure the kick from De Jong was way to much, but hard tackles? Jeez, this is soccer not Ballet lol these players whine way to much and soccer is just retarded seeing how players get hit and roll on the floor as if there legs got shot off by a shotgun and moment they get a free-kick or opposite team gets a card they stand up and act as if nothing happened. Lame ass soccer (everyone does it though, but simply because FIFA is retarded and allows it). That being one of reasons I don't watch soccer anymore, unless it's Nation vs Nation, rather play it myself with guys who actually don't act like babies.
Actually, where was everyone when Brazil played against Holland and acted even worse compared to Holland now? Committing fouls on players who did not even had the ball, yet nobody, from the press or anyone here stated anything against that 'great' Brazil, just defined the win of Holland by mere 'luck', funny, no?
Asking for cards at the referee is epic lame thing to do, once more proves of whiny little babies that play a 'tough mans game' yet this starts to happen even more often at common soccer as well (other teams/nations do that too). Not atking Spain now, just stating something really lame of nowadays soccer.
And the Dutch coach is a mere gentleman, it's normal for the losing coach to say the best team won out of respect, happens all the time (television is funny also, they only show you a single part of an interview, just showing you what you want to see).
And again, Blatter knows shit (funny you come up with the FIFA presidents opinion, the one that is actually stopping the entire game from evolving with its time and is stopping everything from introducing video referee's and goalline camera's too the game. (which would have prevented several errors by the referee's) such as England's goal and the off-side goal in the final (and the epic error at the freekick seconds before that)
So yea, Spain did not deserve the win, especially not with that goal. Holland did not deserve the win either, not with that play. 0-0 would've been the deserved end score. Would like to see a similar match, yet without this (retarded) referee. Maybe will see one in the future.
Oh yea, bit long post, most of this not directed to Spain but more towards FIFA, and the referee being retarded.
w/e Furesy...I'll say that u'r right just to avoid reading ur posts once again...
VIVA LA MEXICO CABRON!
Quote from: Sephiroth on July 13, 2010, 03:46:01 PM
w/e Furesy...I'll say that u'r right just to avoid reading ur posts once again...
Hmm ok sure, kinda funny starting a discussion but not wanting to read someone else his posts or arguments xD probably didn't had debate class or Rules of Discussion at school/uni :P
Anyway, gratz with your win, even though it was with an offside goal which came directly from a goalkick which was actually a corner! ^^
Quote from: Furesy on July 13, 2010, 03:49:52 PM
Hmm ok sure, kinda funny starting a discussion but not wanting to read someone else his posts or arguments xD probably didn't had debate class or Rules of Discussion at school/uni :P
Anyway, gratz with your win, even though it was with an offside goal which came directly from a goalkick which was actually a corner! ^^
There's nothing to argue at,I've already said what I gotta say,and u've done the same.I like to discuss,but there's nothing I can do tochange ur mind neither u to change mine.
No,I didn't have at school and I won't have at Uni,that's something u learn discussing with ur friends/family,it's all'bout respect ;)
If it is a matter of blame on the referees the final had to be Uruguay vs. Spain, because the referee at Holland-Uruguay was awful too, and everyone knows who will win....Uruguay has the last "pichichi" in his side.
Yes, I´m uruguayan and I feel like we won the tournament.