Hello guys, after talking with a old GM he convinced me to do this post :).
I will post here the pros and cons(imo) about merging the 3 servers (Dragon, NM and Infi) and it would be nice if any player or GM can give opinions about this.
Pros:
-Many players in 1 server = More pvp and fun at raids/sieges.
-A big GM team dedicated to 1 server= More events, less bots and more GM help. About this point.. i would only give full GM powers to TrackZero And Kain (NM GMs) since i know they are fair and non corrupted.(Sorry to to the other servers GM but i dont know them). Specially coz TrackZero and Kain DONT have ingame characters. (imo GM and player is always a bad combo ::))
-Some of the old players that stoped playing will come back, also new players will start to come again. (Many of the players that leaved was because Server was bored and they were always doing the same)
-Many PvP sides in the server.(More clans/ally= More Sides)
-A BIG community is always better than separated smaller ones.
-More Donations (More ppl = More donation ;))
-Happy players = Players that vote everyday ;D.
Cons:
-Server would need a hardware upgrade to be able to handle all the players without lag.
-Some extra work for the GM team (maybe its not a con ;D)
-Unstable server economy first days/weeks due to diference between server prices. (It will stabilize after some time anyway)
-Change in server rates. (I dont see a big diference between a x5 x15 x30 servers since u can make lvl 82 char in less than 1 week in all of them).
-About OE weapons..talking to some ppl i got the idea of making the max enchant to +16 would be the best balance.(ppl would still keep theyr "RED" weapon without making some "OP" dmg.This point goes mainly for Dragon server, since there are more OE weapons than in NM and infi.(If u dont like the idea think it like this.. would you rather have your +20 weapon and be siting in any village all day or have it +16 making a little dmg diference and be in pvp all day long..?)
About OE Sets/jewels i think there is no problem since there arent many of them.(or if they are make smth with them like with weapons).
-About OE skills i would make it like weapons.(Just make "x" number max skill enchant and lower all to that number)
-The last 2 points were mostly for balance and no so cons..
-After the merge ppl would have a "ugly" [NM] or [DN] prefix before its name, coz some names are used in both servers.(Not a big problem anyway)
After reading ur replys or if i think more pro/cons i will update them.
Yea i know there are many problems with this kind of "merge" but the the pros clrearly are worth the time/effort to make it happen.
Some suggestions from players:
-Make some areas like (Seal of Shilien,Near Blasing Swamp spawn, etc) a pvp place, i mean make some "special" mobs (lvl 80+) to spawn around there droping(or quest item) items that u may trade later for new endgame items(that dont affect balance too much) like for example: LvL 5 Tattos(not much bonus diference than with lvl 4),S Grade Shirt/Bracelets, non-tradeable "random" Forgoten Scrolls or the chance of getting a Dyna/Icarus parts/recipe .Making something like these will keep pvp nonstop in those areas. (its better if there are only 2 areas with not many mobs that drops the items so pvp its even better)
In old server like ours one of the main problems is the lack of new endgame items( that doenst affect balance too much) since ppl dont feel the need to farm anymore (or pvp for the farming spots).
-40 ppl Clan system and more clans per ally. (this would help smaller/new clans)
-A Deathmatch auto event. For example 150 ppl register and later they are all teleported to coli(or some place like that) at the same time and the last one alive wins smth. (u cant make pt there or ress/buff the other players).
Any suggestions are welcomed.
I Heard sometimes that this "Merge" is imposible, but no one seems to know the reason. So if any GM can post here "why" its so impossible i would gladly help u to get a solution. (something like "xx" database is not compatible with "xx" smth) after all we are a community to help each other. I know tons of l2 servers that make this kind of merge and most of them were "c4 off extended files" like our server.
So for the moment thats all :D
Thx for reading and plx try to not spam too much this topic. (yea i know its hard ;) )
And here its a old pic to remember the good old days http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/8422/oldloader.jpg and hope They come back. :'(
ps: Im not this forum account owner, but i dont know why registration in forum is disabled. (I play here since c3 :P)
+1 to all
But join the new server to...We dont want to be left out.
Agree with all!... specially with the max enchant +16 (that will balance the pvps) and the event to obtain shirts S, brazalets and forgotten scrolls 81+ (as items not tradeable).
Quote from: vaiper on September 10, 2010, 12:16:46 AM
And here its a old pic to remember the good old days http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/8422/oldloader.jpg and hope They come back. :'(
and something in addition http://web.archive.org/web/20060613101041/http://www.dragon-network.net/ ::)
Quote from: vaiper
A big GM team dedicated to 1 server= More events, less bots and more GM help.
About this point.. i would only give full GM powers to TrackZero And Kain (NM GMs)
- Lets guess, you are a nightmare player, if not at least you got connection to one of them or both (doesn't really matter)
- First point would mean at least 6-12 GMs, which would be too much, only two from one Server would be also a bad idea
(nothing against Track or Kain.. :P)
Quote from: vaiper
Some of the old players that stoped playing will come back, also new players will start to come again.
(Many of the players that leaved was because Server was bored and they were always doing the same)
- Who told you that they will / want to come back if this will happen? None.
- We want new players, also old ones, not just "specials"
Quote from: vaiper
Many players in 1 server = More pvp and fun at raids/sieges.
Many PvP sides in the server.(More clans/ally= More Sides)
- More crashes, more lags, more bots .. and more players which mean they are better as others and spam
forum with stupid reports (allyfights and so on)
Quote from: vaiper
A big community is always better than separated smaller ones..
- ..and one big spam :P
- too many database crap to handle with (.. same names, castle owners, alliances and clannames etc.)
Quote from: vaiper
More Donations (More ppl = More donation)
- Not really.. (1â,¬ - 1Coin - same player amount, same Donations .. etc.)
Oh, damn. was Pro-list .. :P
Quote from: vaiper
Server would need a hardware upgrade to be able to handle all the players without lag.
- 3 Servers, different rates.. what tells you that?
(going back to history x: ".. too many players, thats why we added some new servers .."
Quote from: vaiper
Some extra work for the GM team (maybe its not a con ;D)
- Should I add something i wrote before.. (ofc 2 GMs will have to do a sh!t job)
Quote from: vaiper
Unstable server economy first days/weeks due to diference between server prices
(It will stabilize after some time anyway)
Come out from your dreamworld, you just can not simple add a new server with DB from 3 others
with different rates. Maybe some old players join back, but most of the "old-rates-players" will leave.
Example: 5x + 15x + 30x = ? (thinking about the rate which will add, 5x Players could think like: for what i worked that hard?!)
Watch stupid prices - thats nothing compared to other rates (talking from Dnet only)
Quote from: vaiper
Change in server rates
(I dont see a big diference between a x5 [..] servers since u can make lvl 82 char in less than 1 week in all of them).
- Which Rate/s should new server have? huh
- About 5x and level 82 in one week, nice joke :D
Quote from: vaiper
About OE weapons.. [..] and Sets/jewels.. [..] .. +16
- If Infinity would have even safeenchants up to +5 it would be messed up..
Quote from: vaiper
About OE skills i would make it like weapons.(Just make "x" number max skill enchant and lower all to that number)
- Do you really think that works THAT easy?!
Quote from: vaiper
After the merge ppl would have a "ugly" [NM] or [DN] prefix before its name, coz some names are used in both servers
(Not a big problem anyway)
Stop to seperate NM > rest from DN
Infinity and Dragon are a part from DNet same as NM Server.
Quote from: vaiper
[..] there are many problems with this kind of "merge" but the the pros clrearly are worth the time/effort [..]
Are you serious?!
Please don't merge servers
Quote from: vaiper
Im not this forum account owner, but i dont know why registration in forum is disabled. (I play here since c3 :P)
Urg.. please watch more often forum to get some new informations :P
Quote from: Norther on September 10, 2010, 11:37:01 AM
Hi there ,
^piccy^ and me often talk about that Topic ....
after all cons i see , something is realy missing , ClanHalls - who is willing to give up his Clan hall.
Yes Yes now you are saying , make all CH free for auction again , but i dont agree , as long there
is no solution for a clan clans to keep the CH.
Regards
Norther
Who cares about clanhalls? xD They really are not so important, and if you would merge servers, it's better to entirely dissolve all clans/alliances and make every single player clanless, this would force people to work together as a clan and lvl their new clans, create new clans, new alliances etc. Rather than sticking with the same old sh*t from all 3 servers lol
about clan hall server are minimum 5X so lets start to increase rent of ch of 5x and u will see that not active clan will leave it
Quote from: Norther on September 10, 2010, 01:28:02 PM
@Furesy
for some Clans they are very important .... belive it or not but some clans seems to depend on it
and not all Clans or Allies are having the feeling of "Old Sh.t"
Who are we to force Clans/ally to dissolve/delete ...... :o
If players would want that merge, they would need to sacrifice something, losing your clan and clanhall is not a big deal, clans can be remade and clanhalls can be regained. If you fuse the 3 servers, there will be way more players, way more sides, way more clans and alliances anyway, probably a lot of players would switch or what so ever. It would only be for the best to have clans start from zero again, this way players can work themselves up in a clan rather than joining a fully ready clan and just dragging along.
Quote from: Norther on September 10, 2010, 01:46:55 PM
i dont have any Clan Hall - because i dont even play on Infinity ..... i got lots of chars for only testing .....
and i realy understand your point - but some clans , wich are still working like hell for their stuff
have to suffer a decsision wich is made by others ... wich dont see this as disadvantage
And to be honest i dont like the way of Majority Decsisions wich are similar to politics
Yea well, can never please everyone I guess... ^^
and again I ask......
what happens to extra chars when someone has been using the same account on multiple servers?!?!
as for disolving clans, what happens to those clan warehouses? some of us made those clans for storage purposes, and won't have space to put everything in private warehouses.
merging servers is a huge and hard work who u expect to do it? drake? xD
Merging servers is
1st GOD DAMN HARD
2nd theres no1 to do it
3rd it will take too much time
there is only 1 good and quick decision- WIPE infinity dragon and nightmare AND create 1 server with middle rates where all dragon/infinity/nightmare players will start over again.
A wipe also gives you the opportunity to update to gracia -as Northern said some topic before,UPDATING TO GRACIA can only be done on a Clean server so they wont have to change the IDsof everything.
remember,many big and top rated servers have done wipes over the years and have become better after it-its not such bad thing and will surely be a good fresh (RE)start for DN
if this network will make wipe on infinity, dragon , nightmare will loose 80 % of the player and can close forever
Quote from: Argriev on September 10, 2010, 04:29:11 PM
if this network will make wipe on infinity, dragon , nightmare will loose 80 % of the player and can close forever
bullshit
Quote from: Torek [IF] on September 10, 2010, 04:34:01 PM
omg just one time in your life avoid to throw shit everywhere and say something clever....
you'r so low
and according to your sign u'r severance CL, omg what a tard clan should it be
Can you see the irony in that?
(http://tcritic.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/the-most-ironic-tattoo-22613-1242710935-2.jpg)
Quote from: Torek [IF] on September 10, 2010, 04:34:01 PM
and according to your sign u'r severance CL, omg what a tard clan should it be
this sign is a big lie
No one said doing this would be easy.
But at least u could just merge the server database into one and let the players test it for a while and then make opinions.
And about all the other problems like Clan halls/Clan wh/ etc. All of them have solutions, some ppl wont like them but as furesy said, u cant please everyone.
Will never happen, seriously its like sending letters to santa lol.
Quote from: Alex on September 10, 2010, 07:02:33 PM
Will never happen, seriously its like sending letters to santa lol.
YOU DUMBF
UCK WANNA SAY THAT SANTA CLAUS DOESN'T EXIST ? F
UCK OFF
<3
merge +1
update to gracia epilouge/freya xD +1
wipe - dunno ,they should at least give ppl coins back
and. btw about this "custom" shit ,it should be all removed ,just substack class is enough.
merge and roll it back to C4!!!
Quote from: Rudi on September 11, 2010, 01:16:07 PM
merge and roll it back to C4!!!
if they rolled it back to c4 there would be no need to merge.... the game would be fun again, and ppl would come back...
Quote from: Rudi on September 11, 2010, 01:16:07 PM
merge and roll it back to C4!!!
+100% :)
We know you wont merge servers cuz it takes a lot of time and work.Who will do it ? Drake O.o?
Santa I want a c4 server whit substuck....plizzzzz ::)
Merging is not possible w/o full or partial wipe.
1st you have to resolve nickname collisions between servers. As every character is identified by his nickname there is no way of merging w/o resolving this somehow. Same shit goes for clans and alliances. Also any friend lists and block lists need to be cleared. Completely. On every char on every server.
2nd Clanhalls/Castles and anything else that exists in limited instances needs to be taken from their current owners.
3rd You'll have to resolve psychological issues: server X has more OE weapons - that's unfair; server X has +YY skills - that's unfair and so on. Players will accept their fate eventually, but continuous crying may slow down the whole process. Complete wipe resolves this part.
And anyone can understand that a full wipe is almost identical to the 1st part. So, probability of servers' merge is less than 0.001%. Enjoy.
merage , without wipe :)
Quote from: Dayman on September 12, 2010, 12:45:55 PM
Merging is not possible w/o full or partial wipe.
1st you have to resolve nickname collisions between servers. As every character is identified by his nickname there is no way of merging w/o resolving this somehow. Same shit goes for clans and alliances. Also any friend lists and block lists need to be cleared. Completely. On every char on every server.
2nd Clanhalls/Castles and anything else that exists in limited instances needs to be taken from their current owners.
3rd You'll have to resolve psychological issues: server X has more OE weapons - that's unfair; server X has +YY skills - that's unfair and so on. Players will accept their fate eventually, but continuous crying may slow down the whole process. Complete wipe resolves this part.
And anyone can understand that a full wipe is almost identical to the 1st part. So, probability of servers' merge is less than 0.001%. Enjoy.
yeah, maybe, but i think we can agree about 1 thing:
try to keep 5 servers alive is totally bullshit. (when the offical lineage 2 server also makes 1 big EU server )
I know that they have more resources and power, but i dont belive that it's impossible to do it. More ppl playing on a server = more ppl will come = more donate... think about it
merge is stupid ideea ..... wipe is stupid ideea... roll back to c4 is stupid ideea
Quote from: cerebelo on September 13, 2010, 03:50:31 PM
merge is stupid ideea ..... wipe is stupid ideea... roll back to c4 is stupid ideea
giving you forum account is stupid
idea (correct spelling)
:P just couldn't stop myself ..............
Quote from: roberts on September 13, 2010, 03:11:58 PM
try to keep 5 servers alive is totally bullshit. (when the offical lineage 2 server also makes 1 big EU server )
I know that they have more resources and power, but i dont belive that it's impossible to do it. More ppl playing on a server = more ppl will come = more donate... think about it
http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=210715
Yeah. I see now. They're having nickname collisions anyway. We'll see how they've managed to resolve all that shit on 5th October.
P.S. I lold. Seriously. Lineage is having harsh times. Merge's being made not to make everything better for players, but to prevent losses from maintaining unpopulated servers. Expect 1 server in 2 years and f2p coming next.
I heard that even official servers are merging due the lack of players... ROFLMAO!! =D
Quote from: Norther on September 13, 2010, 07:26:42 PM
Yes and they have as already mentioned a hell of problems with nickname collisions ;D
you should copy their solution if they announced it
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Quote from: Torek [IF] on September 14, 2010, 12:19:27 PM
it's easy.
my nick is Torek on 5x, if ur is the same on NM just put at the end of our nick just a letter, so it will be:
Torek[ I]
Torek[N]
I stand for infy and N stand for Nightmare.
imho it's just matter of time cuz it will be very boring to do :P
I stands for IDIOT maybe =D
Quote from: ChillyWilly on September 13, 2010, 05:17:29 PM
giving you forum account is stupid idea (correct spelling)
:P just couldn't stop myself ..............
giving you air is stupid ideeeeea ( english teacher .... just foking hate u all that are looking for wrong spelling )
the only one normal chance to merge servers would be to wipe everything, but the hundreds of players whos spent lot of money for donate (or just spent a lot of time with farming in the game) never ever accept it, then its useless talk imo, better to increase somehow the new players number on every server,couse all server looks like an L2 free oldies home....
Quote from: cerebelo on September 14, 2010, 01:43:20 PM
giving you air is stupid ideeeeea ( english teacher .... just foking hate u all that are looking for wrong spelling )
I do not LOOK for spelling errors... I am far too likely to make them myself for that to make any sense. It's just that when you are ranting about other people being stupid, you should take more care to not appear stupid yourself.
CHILLY !!!!! :-)
I have to admit that a wipe would be a real pain. I don't have alot of time to play and it would hurt to lose the char's that it took me 3 years to make. And since I have multiple acounts on each server I'm curious about how they would resolve that.
And still some player would like it, others not..
How to find finally an end for that topic?
* Merge all server to one
- not nice solution, causes alot of problems
* Merge 30x + 15x (highrates) and 9x + 5x (lowrates)
- easier to handle, not that much problems
"Problems" to fix?
Names of Chars
> every Server got their own DB, not that hardly to realize
> more problems will causes the admin panel, yes drake or a full admin will need to that.
Names of Clans / Alliances .. etc
> same as with names of each Character
Player X got 1 Account playing on 3 Server.. and now?
> one good question..
* Players could tell which account they want to take on new server
* like Player X want take Chars from NM [account: xyz]
If you want a merge, try to help our GMs to find maybe a good solution for everyone and stop crying and complain
and whatever not, that helps no one.
Quote from: JTKnight on September 15, 2010, 04:08:47 AM
CHILLY !!!!! :-)
I have to admit that a wipe would be a real pain. I don't have alot of time to play and it would hurt to lose the char's that it took me 3 years to make. And since I have multiple acounts on each server I'm curious about how they would resolve that.
Hi JT, it's been a while... :)
I also don't want a wipe, and I don't believe I'm the only nut-case with multiple character disorder who doesn't want to lose somebody special to them if the servers merge and there's no room in one account for all the chars that account has on 2 or 3 servers... that's really my big problem with the whole idea, even though at the moment I'm only active on Valky, I put a lot of years into my other chars too, I don't want to lose the choice to go back and visit them once in a while...
Mmm ive been "inactively" playing since the server was C3 and im quite of a hell sure i dont want to see my chars deleted :S, not after "all the effort" i would have "wasted" creating them.
BBBBBBBBBBBUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
There's some shit called "collective decisions" and it mean that decisions should be made by an entire community (yeah, every player here). So...how about someone starts a poll about what should be the future of the server. But not a god forsaken poll, but one that even involucrates GMs. A sticky poll with options like...
[ ] Wipe all the community servers to create a new server from 0 (even starting with gracia)
[ ] Merge all the servers with an extremely amount of work from the GMs
[ ] Merge some servers (like Dragon and Nightmare in a 15x server and Infi and Valk in a 5x server)
[ ] Delete the community and lol at us...
or something like that.
After the poll finishes (like 1 week or semothing) everyone must abide to the collective decision (even if it means losing my chars...T_T)
just my humble opinion
atm on EU/NA retail servers xD
Quote from: NCsoft
In order to promote a healthy and competitive environment, as well as to offer a better overall experience in Lineage II, we will be combining North American servers, as well as European servers, on October 5, 2010. We intend to make this transition as smooth as possible for all of our players and are confident that the end result will provide a thriving community of dedicated Lineage II players.
Merged Servers
North American Servers Bartz, Devianne, Sayha, Aria, and Phoenix will be combined into a single server.
European servers Teon, Franz, and Luna will be combined into a single server.
New Server Name Selection Process
We will be accepting new server name nominations (NA EU) from 12:00 PM PDT 9/10/2010 until 10:00 AM PDT 9/14/2010. Once we have sorted name nominations, we will provide polls for the community to vote on the new server names from 10:00 AM PDT 9/15/2010 until 5:00 PM PDT 9/17/2010.
Please Note
To minimize the number of duplicate name conflicts during the server merge process, we will be deleting any character under level 20 that has not logged into the game in more than one year. This can be prevented by logging into the dormant character any time prior to the server merge on October 5, 2010.
The number of total character slots per server will remain at 7 per account. If a single account has more than 7 characters across the servers being merged, the 7 characters with the highest amount of experience will be kept, while the remaining will be deleted. If you feel this scenario may affect you, please consider moving items from lower level characters to higher level characters to prevent the loss of any desired items or consider deleting characters that
More specific merge information (clans, alliances, castles, Olympiad, etc.) will be provided at a later time.
Thanks for your continued loyalty to Lineage II.
Quote from: -MichU- on September 16, 2010, 09:49:35 AM
atm on EU/NA retail servers xD
That's sick.
It sounds like a "Last shot before I die" move xD
If a network comes to this conclusion (LoL'd about retail's ) it means it has to die in peace.
If people are leaving is cause the game itself is getting bored , merging won't provide anything.
Just angry people for the nick/clan/clan hall issuse and others...but in the end , if you get bored in your own server , why should you have back the fun to play in another with the same system , just with more people...the only plus this merging offers is an improvement of popultion , wich is absolutely not a solution to save this network ...
Face the truth , merging 3 different servers , who have even different and various bugs/exploits , what would bring ?
If the admins alredy canno't handle to fix the servers one by one , imagine how could it be possible with the issues from 3 different servers combined ! xD a super mega uper duper bugged land !
Let it die in peace , at least it'll sound like the "legendary" ( xD ) dragon network !
Quote from: Dhart on September 16, 2010, 01:38:22 PM
If people are leaving is cause the game itself is getting bored , merging won't provide anything.
it's getting bored, because 200 ppl playing /server
Quote from: Dhart on September 16, 2010, 01:38:22 PM
Just angry people for the nick/clan/clan hall issuse and others...but in the end , if you get bored in your own server , why should you have back the fun to play in another with the same system , just with more people...the only plus this merging offers is an improvement of popultion , wich is absolutely not a solution to save this network ...
as i wrote it before, more ppl playing on a server will bring more ppl to come and play here. and why dont we go to another server? because we do like this community
Quote from: Dhart on September 16, 2010, 01:38:22 PM
Face the truth , merging 3 different servers , who have even different and various bugs/exploits , what would bring ?
as far as i know, there werent so different bugs/exploits on the 3 server
Quote from: Dhart on September 16, 2010, 01:38:22 PM
If the admins alredy canno't handle to fix the servers one by one , imagine how could it be possible with the issues from 3 different servers combined ! xD a super mega uper duper bugged land !
disagree. it's easier to focus on 1 server than fix bugs and others on 3 different server. If the merge happened, there would be more GM's on the server so there would be less bugs, and less bot...
Quote from: roberts on September 16, 2010, 02:26:28 PM
it's getting bored, because 200 ppl playing /server
as i wrote it before, more ppl playing on a server will bring more ppl to come and play here. and why dont we go to another server? because we do like this communitydisagree. it's easier to focus on 1 server than fix bugs and others on 3 different server. If the happened, there would be more GM's on the server so there will be less bugs, and less bot...
People leave not just 'cause server sux , you never consider the fact that lineage 2 is nowdays obsolete , if a new player has to chose between l2 and another new-gen game , well my friend... I'd rather chose another game even tho' it would suck.
Do you know why ? 'cause l2 is freakin' old and it doesn't offer anything new to us , and you know it , not even NC soft decided to break up his own ass a little and decided to create something of cool and REALLY new ( Considering the fact that dinasties are all the same with changed textures , same goes for vesper and so on ) , makes me think a lot.
About old players , why should they keep playing here if after so many years of hoping , a mod can destruct everythin' you built up with few clicks ( Ops , dragon's gm ? ::) ) or simply sees no new updates/features .
Now talking about gm's staff etc.
There are several moderators wich work on these different server (2-3 per server ?)
They should be reporting bugs/banning bad users , but what do we have ?
Gm's who play in game , taking benefits from their rights istead of helping others , or other situation where there's just ONE gm who has to do the whole work alone.
No way you'r gonna let those 2 kind of personalities work togheter. Take it off from your mind.
Still guys you'r trying to find a way , when there are no possible ways and you know it too , but you'r just too stubborn not to let the stupid pixel you made in years in a dead screen.
make warpgates in each town between servers :)
ye great what a freaki idea:D lets go NM exp a bit and back oly on infinity coz other servers+24 weapons or..(dragon hero with AM+zilion)..i go kick some nabs on infi :D
Quote from: buzmasta on September 16, 2010, 04:35:22 PM
ye great what a freaki idea:D lets go NM exp a bit and back oly on infinity coz other servers+24 weapons or..(dragon hero with AM+zilion)..i go kick some nabs on infi :D
well i think infi players will get +24 weapons at no time (we pro farmers not nab donators)
after 1-2 months will be balanced :D
Quote from: Geomantic on September 16, 2010, 04:51:22 PM
well i think infi players will get +24 weapons at no time (we pro farmers not nab donators)
after 1-2 months will be balanced :D
when U merge would be nice to reduce the enchantmens of some weapon armor and jewel for the players coming from higher rate servers =D
from NM: max wep +10 max jew/armor +6
from DN: max wep+12 max jew/armor+7
from infinity: no penalties =D
1 thing to do, shut down 15x/30x/5x and join 9x :D
Quote from: J4cKDan13L on September 16, 2010, 05:48:14 PM
when U merge would be nice to reduce the enchantmens of some weapon armor and jewel for the players coming from higher rate servers =D
from NM: max wep +10 max jew/armor +6
from DN: max wep+12 max jew/armor+7
from infinity: no penalties =D
about dragon.... ::)
but i really think that NM has ++++ weapon and armors exactly like us
Quote from: StonerBashin on September 17, 2010, 02:15:48 AM
1 thing to do, shut down 15x/30x/5x and join 9x :D
if U will move all my equip ok =D
quello non è un problema :)
Quote from: Torek [IF] on September 21, 2010, 12:45:27 AM
AshlynnSheMaleRapeYouBetter 8)
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/1982/shemale.jpg (http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/1982/shemale.jpg)
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
right, so you better watch out!
abbi pazienza su :)
english bitches >:(
pota stella, non dico niente finche non son sicuro di qualcosa
oramai ho imparato che ANCHE ad avere notizie certe..... si sbaglia :D
a black e rileggite BENE gli ultimi ..dieci post c ho fatto con piccy
ma bene
se suggerisce delle cose puo darsi sia utile farle ...... anche se non c'e certezza
se vedo J4ckDan13L nello stesso server di quello con una icarus bow +17 da stormscreamer divento uno stormcryer subbato shillien rosiker....
Use other language section to post there... ;] I can speak my language to: " kiedy kurwa bedzie update? Heee?"
Quote from: razor2100 on September 22, 2010, 04:59:51 PM
Use other language section to post there... ;] I can speak my language to: " kiedy kurwa bedzie update? Heee?"
jebana ciota.
Se ghè de nà ghè de nà !
az anyátok narancsbőrös picsájáért kell tele spammelni ezt a topikot is mocskos postfarmerek ::)
BUMP!
BTW i get this from lineage2.com
Server Merge 2010
On October 5, 2010, all of the Lineage II servers will be merged. The eight existing servers will become two servers, one based in North America and one based in Europe.
* Aria, Bartz, Devianne, Phoenix and Sayha will merge and become Chronos (NA).
* Franz, Luna and Teon will merge and become Naia (EU).
In preparation for the merge, all players are asked to examine their game accounts and number of characters on each account. If you calculate that you will have over 7 characters on either of the new servers, we advise that you empty and delete the overflow characters. There can be no more than 7 characters on each of the new servers. Characters queued to be deleted will not be merged. By taking a few minutes to consolidate your character list, you will ensure that your favorite characters are merged successfully and will not be deleted. Read the Server Merge Guide for more information on how this merge will affect you and your characters.
they did it with all the official servers... why we cant do the same ?
cheers
There were topics with this ideea before.
Point is drake doesn't care so stop dreaming.
I know alot of people that would come back with a servers merge, hell I would lol.
But it's not gonna happen.
drake is a fag.
um, 1 big... alive server. wipe all serwers - make 1 big ;)
now i dont play coz no time.. besides infinity is death serwer.
some players like me will back.
stupid idea
Official rate is 1x in all servers and here we have different rates. Official server have one owner and here we have many. And another things. So i think server merge is impossible in the dragon server.
Quote from: Fox Molder on November 28, 2010, 01:43:36 AM
Official rate is 1x in all servers and here we have different rates. Official server have one owner and here we have many. And another things. So i think server merge is impossible in the dragon server.
its not problem to change rates on server, choose middle one...
pros: will increase online
cons: will never happen
sry had to say this.