Hi, since I dont expect an answer from our highly professional dragon GMs, I came to seek the answer here.
Is it decided if we will have olympiad during night in Gracia? Because currently that time is game breaking, it is used for nothing but points feed, mainly by latin players. To avoid spam about "latin players need special time for oly too" I'll say that those who are determined to be heroes will get hero status anyway. But yea, those who transfer will be owned hard if night oly is removed.
I seriously think that setting olympiad time for the time period when like 80% of the server can't participate is really wrong and it encourages unfair ways of getting points and/or hero status.
Oh boy... here we go again...
Are you mad cuz u lost hero? Get over it! Transfer happens all the time. In fact, transfer occurs even more during other oly times.
Tell me mate, what is fair for you? It is when you get hero and the others cant stand a chance? Oki then...
As you know, we have players from all over the world. Thats why we have 3 oly times.
Seriously, this forum is all about QQ topics now?
Quote from: 666VeNoM on June 01, 2011, 04:36:13 PM
Oh boy... here we go again...
Are you mad cuz u lost hero? Get over it! Transfer happens all the time. In fact, transfer occurs even more during other oly times.
Tell me mate, what is fair for you? It is when you get hero and the others cant stand a chance? Oki then...
As you know, we have players from all over the world. Thats why we have 3 oly times.
Seriously, this forum is all about QQ topics now?
Hi, for suspicious people who see "QQ topic" behind every post I wrote this
QuoteTo avoid spam about "latin players need special time for oly too" I'll say that those who are determined to be heroes will get hero status anyway
I didnt lose hero and even if I would its not the main reason why do I bring that issue up, your argument is stupid and invalid.
Quote from: Alex on June 01, 2011, 04:41:32 PM
Hi, for suspicious people who see "QQ topic" behind every post I wrote this
I didnt lose hero and even if I would its not the main reason why do I bring that issue up, your argument is stupid and invalid.
lol, you are funny.
This reminds me of this:
(http://rlv.zcache.com/i_reject_your_reality_and_substitute_my_own_tshirt-p235199136257942759qw9u_400.jpg)
You should get one of those.
Probably you dont even read what I wrote. Anyway, keep QQ.
Any answer from Track or Piccy would be appreciated <3
Quote from: GN on June 01, 2011, 08:04:17 PM
serious server - serious answers.
l2inc and rarus' java servers are way more fun fo'sho
alex dont have enough space to spam in dragon forum, so he exports him in nightmare section;
PS:
Quote from: Alex on May 24, 2011, 03:20:45 PM
we should ask loxol's opinion on that matter
I didn't understand..... You don't want oly time in latin time..... then u say u didnt lost hero....... so probably u just don't try it..... so how can u say its unfair to the rest of community that its unfair oly night time if u not even tried get hero in same class then the supposed "feeders"?
anyway..... the latin guys who participate in oly and supposd use tranfer points.... i can say all names here and i'm sure is not more then 20. I'm not saying that is unfair or unfair, but if gms think so.... all times should be removed and become just 1 big time during day. BUT just to remember smthing..... when had it and i was playing i remember well we could not fid pvp during oly time coz all are trying to farm/feed and when it ends it was night in europe and all goes sleep.
Quote from: lbiguiml on June 01, 2011, 10:40:25 PM
I didn't understand..... You don't want oly time in latin time..... then u say u didnt lost hero....... so probably u just don't try it..... so how can u say its unfair to the rest of community that its unfair oly night time if u not even tried get hero in same class then the supposed "feeders"?
anyway..... the latin guys who participate in oly and supposd use tranfer points.... i can say all names here and i'm sure is not more then 20. I'm not saying that is unfair or unfair, but if gms think so.... all times should be removed and become just 1 big time during day. BUT just to remember smthing..... when had it and i was playing i remember well we could not fid pvp during oly time coz all are trying to farm/feed and when it ends it was night in europe and all goes sleep.
Im good enough to get hero at any time within 3 days no matter how hard haters will transfer. But I'm not selfish, its not how oly should work, like "lets give time for every country to transfer at their own pleasure". Points feed is a part of the game of course, but there is a reason why even NCSoft has limited olympiad time.
In C4 you could join oly all day long and it worked really bad after people made noblesse quests on many chars thats why time was limited to 4 hours in the evening. Thats why giving additional oly hours affects gameplay in a bad way, if somebody wants to feed points he's free to do that, but only at the risk of someone else interrupting them from that. And at 4 am nobody would really bother to wake up to stop transfer.
Quote from: Alex on June 01, 2011, 11:02:35 PM
Im good enough to get hero at any time within 3 days no matter how hard haters will transfer. But I'm not selfish, its not how oly should work, like "lets give time for every country to transfer at their own pleasure". Points feed is a part of the game of course, but there is a reason why even NCSoft has limited olympiad time.
In C4 you could join oly all day long and it worked really bad after people made noblesse quests on many chars thats why time was limited to 4 hours in the evening. Thats why giving additional oly hours affects gameplay in a bad way, if somebody wants to feed points he's free to do that, but only at the risk of someone else interrupting them from that. And at 4 am nobody would really bother to wake up to stop transfer.
i dont know why all give so much credit on this moring oly when is only 1 hourd and barly u can make 5 fight transfer and + there is more farmers in moring oly during the month then on basic oly tame during day transfer will rimain allways mostly with this system we have now 2 ppl sign they going in not like before minimum 5 ppl and 4 ppl going in randomly i can say IP check same clan bla bla cant go toghter lets say all ok but only 2 ppl sign and they go bljak so lame what make the transfer more easy need just 2 ppl to transfer not like before 10 ppl to sign for 1 guy so is not about morning oly i think is the participate system what suxs :P cheers
Quote from: Kastro on June 02, 2011, 03:59:47 AM
i dont know why all give so much credit on this moring oly when is only 1 hourd and barly u can make 5 fight transfer and + there is more farmers in moring oly during the month then on basic oly tame during day transfer will rimain allways mostly with this system we have now 2 ppl sign they going in not like before minimum 5 ppl and 4 ppl going in randomly i can say IP check same clan bla bla cant go toghter lets say all ok but only 2 ppl sign and they go bljak so lame what make the transfer more easy need just 2 ppl to transfer not like before 10 ppl to sign for 1 guy so is not about morning oly i think is the participate system what suxs :P cheers
+1
@Alex: Lux Snares, Yi do Alpha Strike and Ult... Shen ult in Yi and taunt. Lux Ult / GG
Quote from: Kastro on June 02, 2011, 03:59:47 AM
i dont know why all give so much credit on this moring oly when is only 1 hourd and barly u can make 5 fight transfer and + there is more farmers in moring oly during the month then on basic oly tame during day transfer will rimain allways mostly with this system we have now 2 ppl sign they going in not like before minimum 5 ppl and 4 ppl going in randomly i can say IP check same clan bla bla cant go toghter lets say all ok but only 2 ppl sign and they go bljak so lame what make the transfer more easy need just 2 ppl to transfer not like before 10 ppl to sign for 1 guy so is not about morning oly i think is the participate system what suxs :P cheers
On normal oly its needed 5 people to be registered to start a fight between 4 of them, on current oly its needed 5 ppl to reg to start a fight between 2 of them.
If someone with 1k points will transfer for 1 hour he can give away around 500 points if there will be nobody to stop them and you won't even know this happened because not any sane person will wake up at 4 am for game.
I have no problem with transfer, but with night oly it allows transfering go unnoticed and if its the last week oly u will never know who is your main opponent and how many points u should reach to stop him.
Quote from: Neozinhu on June 02, 2011, 06:23:45 AM
@Alex: Lux Snares, Yi do Alpha Strike and Ult... Shen ult in Yi and taunt. Lux Ult / GG
Shen is my favourite teammate to have xD
Quote from: Alex on June 02, 2011, 07:30:51 AM
If someone with 1k points will transfer for 1 hour he can give away around 500 points if there will be nobody to stop them and you won't even know this happened because not any sane person will wake up at 4 am for game.
they shold implement this from high five http://www.lineage2.com/news/highfive_02.html
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Noblesse characters can us the /olympiadstat command on other characters to check a targeted character's Olympiad points, personal record, and remaining number of matches.
Quote from: Alex on June 02, 2011, 07:30:51 AM
On normal oly its needed 5 people to be registered to start a fight between 4 of them, on current oly its needed 5 ppl to reg to start a fight between 2 of them.
If someone with 1k points will transfer for 1 hour he can give away around 500 points if there will be nobody to stop them and you won't even know this happened because not any sane person will wake up at 4 am for game.
I have no problem with transfer, but with night oly it allows transfering go unnoticed and if its the last week oly u will never know who is your main opponent and how many points u should reach to stop him.
Shen is my favourite teammate to have xD
nop need only 2 ppl to go 2 inside at last how it is on NM donno od dragon and about 1 k points damn we can dream about it latly is not hepppening but as i see i got ur points to much hate there on oly in dragon what evryone want fu ck somone hero but here on NM i can tell u that that 1 hourd oly is more populate then outher 2 hourd and 4 hourd oly from 1st till 22 of the month so i realy must tell u that i agree with the difrent time zone guys coz during week i hardly see somone onlline on outhers oly so even if they want play normali i mean w/o transfer they can do it only on weekends so from 1 side is bad from outher side we cut rights to ppl who are from difrent time zone`s what means solution to delete moring oly come up on gm`s with hard decison
Quote from: Kastro on June 02, 2011, 12:22:52 PM
nop need only 2 ppl to go 2 inside at last how it is on NM donno od dragon and about 1 k points damn we can dream about it latly is not hepppening but as i see i got ur points to much hate there on oly in dragon what evryone want fu ck somone hero but here on NM i can tell u that that 1 hourd oly is more populate then outher 2 hourd and 4 hourd oly from 1st till 22 of the month so i realy must tell u that i agree with the difrent time zone guys coz during week i hardly see somone onlline on outhers oly so even if they want play normali i mean w/o transfer they can do it only on weekends so from 1 side is bad from outher side we cut rights to ppl who are from difrent time zone`s what means solution to delete moring oly come up on gm`s with hard decison
Exactly.
As I said in my first post, transfer occurs on any oly time. And I since Im one of the many players who fight at latin time, I can say its not so easy. Many good players fight at that time, so transfer its not always that easy to do.
But I've noticed its pointless to discuss this here anymore. Seems like latin oly is responsible for 99% of transfer, while its quite te opposite of that.
Quote from: 666VeNoM on June 02, 2011, 01:47:24 PM
Exactly.
As I said in my first post, transfer occurs on any oly time. And I since Im one of the many players who fight at latin time, I can say its not so easy. Many good players fight at that time, so transfer its not always that easy to do.
this is the point to delete all additional oly times. maybe keep only morning time, maybe only day, maybe only evening, but ONE.
you(generally speaking) fight at that time and become hero among all contestants, not even meeting half(10%, 90%, dunno when most ppl fight) of them.
Of course for some people that time suits more for playing on oly, but there are more cons than pros of it.
You can avoid a lot of players playing only during night oly, its possible to make heroes without even anyone knowing - this is whats wrong.
Quote from: Alex on June 02, 2011, 08:11:23 PM
Of course for some people that time suits more for playing on oly, but there are more cons than pros of it.
You can avoid a lot of players playing only during night oly, its possible to make heroes without even anyone knowing - this is whats wrong.
Yes but there are many ppl who become hero getting farmed during the morning oly time....
so
Well about this oly time, i think our community need to know something, no only Europe exist, when our dear european community are playing in oly, we (ppl from latin america) are working, this is my opinion!
Sad story but this server is european servr with server time GMT+1, so when u join here u KNEW that most event will be in GMT+1.
U will want some siege at 4GMT+1 cos its fit for u ? how many % of server population from very diffrent time zone?
Agree, you joined the server knowing its time, no one forced you to play here, so dont make drama now.
Quote from: flamingAwe on June 02, 2011, 02:27:40 PM
this is the point to delete all additional oly times. maybe keep only morning time, maybe only day, maybe only evening, but ONE.
you(generally speaking) fight at that time and become hero among all contestants, not even meeting half(10%, 90%, dunno when most ppl fight) of them.
agree
1 oly time = honest chances to all
Quote from: Alex on June 01, 2011, 04:23:25 PM
Hi, since I dont expect an answer from our highly professional dragon GMs, I came to seek the answer here.
Is it decided if we will have olympiad during night in Gracia? Because currently that time is game breaking, it is used for nothing but points feed, mainly by latin players. To avoid spam about "latin players need special time for oly too" I'll say that those who are determined to be heroes will get hero status anyway. But yea, those who transfer will be owned hard if night oly is removed.
I seriously think that setting olympiad time for the time period when like 80% of the server can't participate is really wrong and it encourages unfair ways of getting points and/or hero status.
agreee now it sux becose only latin player can make hero easy without any risk -.-
http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,244132.0.html
Quote from: ylim on June 03, 2011, 08:15:21 AM
Sad story but this server is european servr with server time GMT+1, so when u join here u KNEW that most event will be in GMT+1.
U will want some siege at 4GMT+1 cos its fit for u ? how many % of server population from very diffrent time zone?
u are idiot but it sad to say that u got right in this point :P
Have you ever played at our time?
Cuz we play vs hardstyle, duci, krdo, suicide, astagamista, aphrodite, cashhh, xilef, evil3, negrata and many many other players that farm oly all day and are hard to beat.
So stop saying crap that latin time is easier or so. In fact, when Im able to play oly during day (holiday 4 example), I see sometimes less ppl than on our time.
If GM created this new oly times its because its fair and nothing else.
Quote from: sirSethan on June 03, 2011, 07:49:38 PM
1 oly time = honest chances to all
bweeuheueheuheu¹Quote from: sirSethan on June 03, 2011, 07:49:38 PM
agreee now it sux becose only latin player can make hero easy without any risk -.-
bwehueheuheueh²People are mad bcuz someone else is farming oly...
European server right? morning oly was made for those who wake up early so ;D
Stop Crying...oly is feed based since years...
didnt want this to be a flame topic, guess im not getting any answer, well lets wait and see.
my vote for old oly system time
Quote from: Alex on June 02, 2011, 07:30:51 AM
If someone with 1k points will transfer for 1 hour he can give away around 500 points if there will be nobody to stop them and you won't even know this happened because not any sane person will wake up at 4 am for game.
Stay awake a couple nights at the end of the months i promise u will be surprised ;P
Quote from: QuadCore on June 04, 2011, 12:12:41 AM
my vote for old oly system time
agree
Quote from: 666VeNoM on June 03, 2011, 08:12:08 PM
Have you ever played at our time?
If GM created this new oly times its because its fair and nothing else.
I just 3 times logged from curius....
Using a system u got 95% chance to choose own char...
And BTW:
BabyJane (dominator ) : 254 points, 61 fights, 60 wins 99,99%
Isoad (dualist) :243 points, 57 fights , 57 wins - 100%
xWeezer (Arcana Lord) : 208 points, 54 points, 54 wins - 100%
SweetRevange (Craft): 176 points, 51 fights, 51 wins - 100%
Selis83 (sh): 203 points , 52 fights, 50 wins - 97%
In your opinion its fair oly if u have 97-100% chances to choose own char??
Quote from: sirSethan on June 04, 2011, 01:24:58 PM
agree
I just 3 times logged from curius....
Using a system u got 95% chance to choose own char...
And BTW:
BabyJane (dominator ) : 254 points, 61 fights, 60 wins 99,99%
Isoad (dualist) :243 points, 57 fights , 57 wins - 100%
xWeezer (Arcana Lord) : 208 points, 54 points, 54 wins - 100%
SweetRevange (Craft): 176 points, 51 fights, 51 wins - 100%
Selis83 (sh): 203 points , 52 fights, 50 wins - 97%
In your opinion its fair oly if u have 97-100% chances to choose own char??
SweetRevenge and selis83 didn't made transfer during night oly, they made during european time, not latin oly time.
So problem isnt transfer during latin oly time, but transfer. And i gonna tell u a secret: TRANSFER WILL ALWAYS HAPPENS! No matter what oly time, class based or not class based this will always happens cause some people will get their points with bots and others from feeders.
Isnt only about win % but some classes r just impossible to make hero without transfer, like for example: SS/PP, SH/SE, PR/BD, Crafter and Spoiler.
Let's check for example:
- APHRODITE (SK/PR): 216 points / 76 fights / 64 wins
- Femida (SS/PP): 179 points / 72 fights / 63 wins
- LittleQQ (Spoiler): 168 points / 50 fights / 47 wins
- BUDYNI0S (PR/BD): 151 points / 50 fights / 44 wins
- NEGRATA (SK/PS): 89 points / 51 fights / 44 wins
This is just examples from this month, also u can include some more people that i doubt that could make points without help from bots or feeders.
One more thing, for people in europe can play normally at least 4 hours of oly each day, if they don't work they can play for 6 hours each day, players from BR that r on yuuki most of then work, so we only can play 1 hour each day (also considering that atm oly time is 23:30-00:30, cause of summer time on europe, soon this will change and we also won't be able to play night oly too).
Sry but if u can't make transfer being able to play 4-6 hours of oly each day and we can do it with just 1 hour it's sad but i must tell u failed in 1 more thing in this server!
Quote from: Weezer on June 04, 2011, 02:48:55 PM
SweetRevenge and selis83 didn't made transfer during night oly, they made during european time, not latin oly time.
So problem isnt transfer during latin oly time, but transfer. And i gonna tell u a secret: TRANSFER WILL ALWAYS HAPPENS! No matter what oly time, class based or not class based this will always happens cause some people will get their points with bots and others from feeders.
Isnt only about win % but some classes r just impossible to make hero without transfer, like for example: SS/PP, SH/SE, PR/BD, Crafter and Spoiler.
Let's check for example:
- APHRODITE (SK/PR): 216 points / 76 fights / 64 wins
- Femida (SS/PP): 179 points / 72 fights / 63 wins
- LittleQQ (Spoiler): 168 points / 50 fights / 47 wins
- BUDYNI0S (PR/BD): 151 points / 50 fights / 44 wins
- NEGRATA (SK/PS): 89 points / 51 fights / 44 wins
This is just examples from this month, also u can include some more people that i doubt that could make points without help from bots or feeders.
One more thing, for people in europe can play normally at least 4 hours of oly each day, if they don't work they can play for 6 hours each day, players from BR that r on yuuki most of then work, so we only can play 1 hour each day (also considering that atm oly time is 23:30-00:30, cause of summer time on europe, soon this will change and we also won't be able to play night oly too).
Sry but if u can't make transfer being able to play 4-6 hours of oly each day and we can do it with just 1 hour it's sad but i must tell u failed in 1 more thing in this server!
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+1 for alex
well I dont rly care about the time's of oly atm, But once we get update oly will be alot more fun like party oly or 1 vs 1
Quote from: Weezer on June 04, 2011, 02:48:55 PM
Sry but if u can't make transfer being able to play 4-6 hours of oly each day and we can do it with just 1 hour it's sad but i must tell u failed in 1 more thing in this server!
But u forgote say:
4:30 oly = +/- 2 persons
14:00 = +/- 6/7
20:00 = +/- 15
i log 3 times in work from curius how many ppl are in this time. There was only 1 strong person and other weak...
Like awe said about oly. If latin ppl wanna be para olympic hero they choose :D
But its sad that no balls to join oly for normal players... 8)
Quote from: sirSethan on June 04, 2011, 09:40:49 PM
But its sad that no balls to join oly for normal players... 8)
Its sad that people need to feed heros to make'em...dont u think? (not talking about weez and this night time...but for all that did it in all those years)
About 3vs3 oly : Fedders will make heros 3x faster ;D