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Title: Little Question..
Post by: Ciso on October 17, 2011, 09:04:28 PM
Why mages have max cast speed 2.3k and archers just 1.5k attack speed??
Mages have instant skill prominence , hydro blast or hurricane and 2.3k cast speed..
Is not fair.. Mages >> all..
Its will be good if you give back normal on bow ( icarus and vesper)..
Ty
Title: Re: Little Question..
Post by: PainMaster on October 17, 2011, 09:06:55 PM
agree  ;)
Title: Re: Little Question..
Post by: Dumbled0re on October 17, 2011, 09:36:34 PM
why archers hit for 10k ?
Title: Re: Little Question..
Post by: Ciso on October 17, 2011, 09:41:25 PM
I dont think archers hit for 10k...
Archers hit mage/tank for 400-500. Mages with defect arrow for 700-800 and mages without 1000+++ , on full buff and with vesper robe set. They hit archers for 800-900-1000 and crit 4k and more. Gz..
Title: Re: Little Question..
Post by: eagleye on October 17, 2011, 09:55:05 PM
Quote from: Ciso on October 17, 2011, 09:41:25 PM
I dont think archers hit for 10k...
Archers hit mage/tank for 400-500. Mages with defect arrow for 700-800 and mages without 1000+++ , on full buff and with vesper robe set. They hit archers for 800-900-1000 and crit 4k and more. Gz..
not all have vesper sets  ;) and if you'll get proper attr in set(which now kinda sux with 600 vs 450 from weapon from mages ;D ) you'll get low hits (I hit for 500 max on my SH a guy who've full attr set ;) and archers have also good dmg - like Felissin said in other topic  ;)
Title: Re: Little Question..
Post by: Ciso on October 17, 2011, 10:08:36 PM
Yes , but I was talk about cast speed and attack speed difference.. 2.3k or mage + instant skill against 1.5k for archers and just silver ranger can have all the time 1.5k...
Title: Re: Little Question..
Post by: Dumbled0re on October 17, 2011, 10:08:49 PM
well im from dragon server and I can ensure to u that if u havent the correct atribute no deflect arrow, shield mastery and increase shield power u can get 10k but a nuker can give u 10k as well if u havent the correct buffs/protections atribute on armor... so is based on the items u have on that moment, lately playing on pal/th i got 10k from se/sh cant remember if I had songs/all protections b ut it isnt commun to get such damage all the time, mostly on sieges u get them. ;)
Title: Re: Little Question..
Post by: Luthor123 on October 17, 2011, 10:20:24 PM
Quote from: Dumbled0re on October 17, 2011, 10:08:49 PM
well im from dragon server and I can ensure to u that if u havent the correct atribute no deflect arrow, shield mastery and increase shield power u can get 10k but a nuker can give u 10k as well if u havent the correct buffs/protections atribute on armor... so is based on the items u have on that moment, lately playing on pal/th i got 10k from se/sh cant remember if I had songs/all protections b ut it isnt commun to get such damage all the time, mostly on sieges u get them. ;)
You're from dragon enough said,bb.:)
Title: Re: Little Question..
Post by: Argriev on October 17, 2011, 10:22:18 PM
why there are 3 jewel that give boost crit attack power?  ::)

stop stupid question
Title: Re: Little Question..
Post by: flamingAwe on October 17, 2011, 10:31:42 PM
Quote from: Ciso on October 17, 2011, 09:04:28 PM
Why mages have max cast speed 2.3k and archers just 1.5k attack speed??
Mages have instant skill prominence , hydro blast or hurricane and 2.3k cast speed..
Is not fair.. Mages >> all..
Its will be good if you give back normal on bow ( icarus and vesper)..
Ty

mages have 2100  cast speed making around 2 hits per sec
fighters with 1500 atack speed make 3 hits per sec
mage crit power is x3 (+20% from powi) fighters crits are x10.. x20 compaired to normal damage
maybe stop cry about numbers? maybe time to start to learn to play with what you have?
Title: Re: Little Question..
Post by: Ciso on October 17, 2011, 10:33:17 PM
Quote from: Argriev on October 17, 2011, 10:22:18 PM
why there are 3 jewel that give boost crit attack power?  ::)

stop stupid question

I talk about cast speed and attack speed.. So don't change topic.
Ty
Title: Re: Little Question..
Post by: lasombra on October 17, 2011, 11:44:35 PM
Quote from: flamingAwe on October 17, 2011, 10:31:42 PM
mages have 2100  cast speed making around 2 hits per sec
fighters with 1500 atack speed make 3 hits per sec
mage crit power is x3 (+20% from powi) fighters crits are x10.. x20 compaired to normal damage
maybe stop cry about numbers? maybe time to start to learn to play with what you have?

+1
Title: Re: Little Question..
Post by: Ciso on October 18, 2011, 12:14:10 AM
Mages have 2.3k...
And Just Silver ranger can have 1.5kattack sped on rapid fire.. For 1.5k we must have haste from certification.. So plz...
Instant skill promi, hurri , and hydro , death spike...
M will +5% , vesper 18% , enchant of skill++ and you can have easy more than 2k c speed
Title: Re: Little Question..
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on October 18, 2011, 12:37:32 AM
Quote from: Ciso on October 18, 2011, 12:14:10 AM
Mages have 2.3k...
And Just Silver ranger can have 1.5kattack sped on rapid fire.. For 1.5k we must have haste from certification.. So plz...
Instant skill promi, hurri , and hydro , death spike...
M will +5% , vesper 18% , enchant of skill++ and you can have easy more than 2k c speed
2,1k.
Title: Re: Little Question..
Post by: Dumbled0re on October 18, 2011, 12:46:40 AM
Quote from: Luthor123 on October 17, 2011, 10:20:24 PM
You're from dragon enough said,bb.:)
The only thing u have that I havent is Track amazing job.
Title: Re: Little Question..
Post by: Ciso on October 18, 2011, 12:47:44 AM
Ok 2.1k but is much.. Archers have just 1.5k ans as i say before just silver ranger can have so much. All mages can have 2.1k + that instant skill of attack.. So? Is unfair , normal archer can have 1100-1200 attack speed (on vesper) , all mages on vesper can have 2.1k..
So maybe give back normal speed on bow ( ic and vesper)
Title: Re: Little Question..
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on October 18, 2011, 01:10:20 AM
Quote from: Ciso on October 18, 2011, 12:47:44 AM
Ok 2.1k but is much.. Archers have just 1.5k ans as i say before just silver ranger can have so much. All mages can have 2.1k + that instant skill of attack.. So? Is unfair , normal archer can have 1100-1200 attack speed (on vesper) , all mages on vesper can have 2.1k..
So maybe give back normal speed on bow ( ic and vesper)
a) All mages cant reach 2,1k not to mention 2,3k.
b) Mages = mages : fighters = fighters
c) from this equation mages have casting speed : fighters have attack speed

With your theory, why we have in start to select fighter or mystic, lets put everything to everyone on same amount so fixed

c.speed/attacksepped/crit rate/speed/evasion/pdef/mdef/...... seriously i feel already dumb replying here. -.-
Title: Re: Little Question..
Post by: DarkLoverPL on October 18, 2011, 01:24:08 AM
Quote from: TrackZero on October 18, 2011, 01:10:20 AM
a) All mages cant reach 2,1k not to mention 2,3k.
b) Mages = mages : fighters = fighters
c) from this equation mages have casting speed : fighters have attack speed

With your theory, why we have in start to select fighter or mystic, lets put everything to everyone on same amount so fixed

c.speed/attacksepped/crit rate/speed/evasion/pdef/mdef/...... seriously i feel already dumb replying here. -.-

but maybe do smth with cast?i play sps/ee and i have same cast like necro sh etc...(i mean 2.1k) why?this mages must have more m atac but less cast!its not normal!
Title: Re: Little Question..
Post by: dodqns on October 18, 2011, 06:58:47 AM
Its so unfair!!! Mages/dagger weapons are one handed and they can use shield/sigils, but archers can't!!!
Track, give archers third hand pls!!! (Or make mages/daggers only with one)...So so so unfair!
Title: Re: Little Question..
Post by: slimx on October 18, 2011, 10:57:45 AM
Quote from: Ciso on October 18, 2011, 12:47:44 AM
Ok 2.1k but is much.. Archers have just 1.5k ans as i say before just silver ranger can have so much. All mages can have 2.1k + that instant skill of attack.. So? Is unfair , normal archer can have 1100-1200 attack speed (on vesper) , all mages on vesper can have 2.1k..
So maybe give back normal speed on bow ( ic and vesper)
any archer can make 1500 atk speed even with very slow bow , u have haste certification what gives u +30% atk speed , u have great fury buff from wc that gives u +50% atk speed wich is fking huge...learn how to play with a party not just a bd/pp in dualbox.
Title: Re: Little Question..
Post by: J4cKDan13L on October 18, 2011, 11:17:06 AM
Quote from: flamingAwe on October 17, 2011, 10:31:42 PM
mages have 2100  cast speed making around 2 hits per sec
fighters with 1500 atack speed make 3 hits per sec
mage crit power is x3 (+20% from powi) fighters crits are x10.. x20 compaired to normal damage
maybe stop cry about numbers? maybe time to start to learn to play with what you have?

U forget to mention that an archer with 500 crit.rate land a crit. in almost every hit...  a nuker even with fullbuff  reach max 33-40% of crits...
Title: Re: Little Question..
Post by: Playboy on October 18, 2011, 03:35:54 PM
Quote from: J4cKDan13L on October 18, 2011, 11:17:06 AM
U forget to mention that an archer with 500 crit.rate land a crit. in almost every hit...  a nuker even with fullbuff  reach max 33-40% of crits...

max 20% chance for magic crit - gracia feature...  :-[
Title: Re: Little Question..
Post by: Tabbox on October 18, 2011, 03:55:03 PM
stop saying bullshits about atck speed from archers, just sr can reach 1,5k atck speed other archers cant otherwise their dmg will suck even more.