i think u made a big mistake track xD, max attr is now 240, ppl who used to have 600 in parts now have 240, thats cool cuz pvp will be more harder, BUT u forgot something, attr weapond cant be 450, if u gonna do it like official remeber that its something like 250-300 attr in weapond, 450 will be to high for a part of 240 :S ppl will die in 1 to 2 hits :S
Quote from: Phonex on November 17, 2011, 04:49:09 AM
i think u made a big mistake track xD, max attr is now 240, ppl who used to have 600 in parts now have 240, thats cool cuz pvp will be more harder, BUT u forgot something, attr weapond cant be 450, if u gonna do it like official remeber that its something like 250-300 attr in weapond, 450 will be to high for a part of 240 :S ppl will die in 1 to 2 hits :S
TOTALLY AGREE, the worst part is if u wear 2 parts u can still have 480 att, so many ppls loose many many many many dc in ur really expensive energys, and the problem will get no fixd cous ppls will wear 2 sets and still have great defense, so its pointless to low down the att from 600 to 240 iof the problem will remain on ppls whit 2 sets, put 240 as max if u want so if u use 2 parts u still have 240, or maybe this a way to more donations, cous everybody will have to bu8y a extra set?????? after loosing so many dc on sets att 600?
Let me try,
Drama ,i am so good at this 1 st u let use buy energy's from a event :) 7:1 i buy for 100 dc
3 weeks later u wipe the atri system, now u kinda f ucked me in the wallet <3 tnx
Who donate for buy energys fell swindle.
Very good update.
Good job Track.
Now ppl must choose against what attr they wanna defense.
ps. I also losted many dc for energys, but who cares...Great update.
gl here no point to do anythng more if someone is interested to buy my chars or items pm me
Quote from: Crazzyyhuhuh on November 17, 2011, 08:06:09 AM
gl here no point to do anythng more if someone is interested to buy my chars or items pm me
YES !
Sell all, and go sit in dark corner couse no more 600 atr in one part of set.
if you bought 2 sets like me to make full resist and drop so mny time on farm/and coins to make them 600 will ask you what you wuld do
Quote from: Crazzyyhuhuh on November 17, 2011, 08:15:33 AM
if you bought 2 sets like me to make full resist and drop so mny time on farm/and coins to make them 600 will ask you what you wuld do
If you are here to play, not only for gather items, everything should be fine.
Quote from: dodqns on November 17, 2011, 08:19:55 AM
If you are here to play, not only for gather items, everything should be fine.
subpop, when u gonna lose cuz of this update so much like many ppl lost u would talk abit different. but ofc with ur "pro" 80 attr set there no difference was update or no.
about this update: 600 attr in 1 armor part was correct for our gm's and coders while only few ppl on server had such sets. when more ppl got equip on same lvl these pro were not able shot every1 anymore by 1-2 hits so such attr system start be forbidden and incorrect. so no doubts, rly "good update and great work".
gr8 update, now reduce max enchant of weapons to +7 and will be awesome, who cares about ppl that wasted xxx coins for it. LETS WIPE BEGIN xD
p.s.
thx for info igideon after talk with U (2 days ago) I made almost whole set ~450 ;*
GJ good update finally some ballance good work i love it ;)
awesome update, finally
guys one question, shouldnt be weapond max 300? and not 450? like official :P
Quote from: Phonex on November 17, 2011, 09:50:35 AM
guys one question, shouldnt be weapond max 300? and not 450? like official :P
on official totaly other on armor too, yeah great update for all who didnt had money to buy or was lazy to farm
gl hf on this sh1t
ps and mz problem not that its reduced, the problem is its reduced after many ppl spent lot of money on it
b4 1y was same. 180 for armor with dnet set (vesper better p.def) and 450 for weapon (XX at.speed) if im not wrong and i remember was the best pvp's from 2-3y. So now ppl only can QQ for the Energy's/Jewels. Sry for bad english. :D
Awesome update, and for those who donated, me included : we all know what a donation is, its in the rules u agree before donating so QQ is not an option.
Keep it up.
Quote from: Phonex on November 17, 2011, 09:50:35 AM
guys one question, shouldnt be weapond max 300? and not 450? like official :P
it's WEAPON, not fuking weaponD
60 in 1 armor part = 150 in weapon
120 in 1 armor part = 300 in weapon
this is official ( W=A*5/2 )
now you have 240 in 1 armor part, should be 600 in weapon
about update.
and thanx dunno whom or what, i'm not playing anymore xD cause i'd leave after this update anyway
unpredictability of investments here is awesome, if I knew that attr will be fixed, i'd buy 2x sets.. but with more and more available energies, wasted DCs for other shit (won't comment what for those 2 sets would be used, just pointing that our choices cost us, not make us better)
Quote from: Naku on November 17, 2011, 10:41:57 AM
Awesome update, and for those who donated, me included : we all know what a donation is, its in the rules u agree before donating so QQ is not an option.
Keep it up.
not all donated like u for make this attr. and normal gm's inform ppl early abit not in last moment.
in our case: energy promotion > energy at donny 10:1 > energy from spoil and when many ppl waste xxx days for farm this sh1t or spent many coins for it, ups update incoming.
just looks like some1 found 1 more way for force ppl donate again, cuz now oly players need 2 set atleast for sure.
Quote from: flamingAwe on November 17, 2011, 10:43:31 AM
it's WEAPON, not fuking weaponD
now i know why u dont play no more :S need to have some six and relax a bit :D
ups, 100 dc wasted :P
awesome ;D
p.s. ppl u selfowened, fist u cry it's to much attr in set, now u cry we all lost coins ;)
Quote from: Silent Silin on November 17, 2011, 11:13:18 AM
ups, 100 dc wasted :P
Ha. I spend a least 70-80 dc to make one DNET to 240 and stopped luckily :D. Imagine get owned on DNET 450 atr?...
Yee cool update.
When some ppl had 600 atr everything was fine.
And now when many ppl had in set more than 400 you focked.
So what should i tell you now? I want my coins back? Or it waste for nothing?
Btw.
If u rly wanna like on official so in weapon is max 300 not 450.
GL & HF :)
Quote from: Naku on November 17, 2011, 10:41:57 AM
Awesome update, and for those who donated, me included : we all know what a donation is, its in the rules u agree before donating so QQ is not an option.
Keep it up.
+1
Stupid Update , dragon will lose many bored members that worked hard for make 600 atribute and now , it become just like some naab that didnt farm nothing or spended no dc for make set! Let me remake this , my set that was 600 that i spended over 300 energys on each part for make it , now is 240 same as some guy that didnt spended nothing at all ... Why dont u just roll back , when u invented this fuking atribute system, at least u would not waste ppl coins/money.
+1 deva
btw i win vs you on oly:P
u rly did it this time. u pressed wrong? u said first 450, now 240, we spent a lot of coins for atribute system, now all is gone, but mostly.. the damage system will be fk-ed up, 0 protection actually gratz
Quote from: devastah on November 17, 2011, 12:10:28 PM
Stupid Update , dragon will lose many bored members that worked hard for make 600 atribute and now , it become just like some naab that didnt farm nothing or spended no dc for make set! Let me remake this , my set that was 600 that i spended over 300 energys on each part for make it , now is 240 same as some guy that didnt spended nothing at all ... Why dont u just roll back , when u invented this fuking atribute system, at least u would not waste ppl coins/money.
+1
Quote from: selis83 on November 17, 2011, 12:20:06 PM
u rly did it this time. u pressed wrong? u said first 450, now 240, we spent a lot of coins for atribute system, now all is gone, but mostly.. the damage system will be fk-ed up, 0 protection actually gratz
Actually pvp system will be not fk-ed up, coz dunno if u know but on official is 300 atri in weapon and 120 in set(each part) so we have now balanced atribute system. Only problem is, like this should be from begin of GF not kurwa now when most of ppl farm and lose coins to make sets 450-600. Who will give coins back?xD For pvp is good update but as i said like this should be from begin of GF.
wouldn't it be better to increase weapon attribute up to 1150 instead of this ;D so many farmerz and dunatorz could be happy :-*
Do you want me to count unknown number of topics made by you players complaining how our att system sux, how server is shit because of that, how none will join our servers for this reason asking to make it as official etc.. etc.. etc...et freaking c .
After numerous topics regarding that , i have CLEARLY told you that since we got official files pack (c1-2-3-4,IL,HB....GF) MEANS its totally different system of what we had (custom))before , and it requires SHITLOAD of time to decomplie those files and make them editable , by that time when we got those files we wasnt able to decomplie many things (including file were ATT. is located).
Ive been telling you that we SIMPLY CANT still edit the file and set attributes correctly, now after all this months (5 months!) our developers cracked those files and allowed us to set things right.
I know that update strike hard and directly , but this is the only way to bring back balance to ONLY unbalanced thing we have/had, and if you think honestly after GF update we didnt had any mega nerfs or updates like this (dont make me remind you what was happening in IL and HB), so this is the only last balance update that will take a place, and in the end its not only me who can decide about it so this is how it is accept it or not i cant change it.
So u could say this 5 months ago. for example "PPL NOT MAKE 600 ATRI IN SETS COZ WE WILL NERF IT, WE CANT ATM COZ WE CANT CRACK SOME FILE"
Anyway is good update to balance pvp.
So if u had in plans to change atr system why u not informed us?
Could you do it when it was in the plans. But no. Ppl just lose time and coins for nothing.
Quote from: MegaZord on November 17, 2011, 12:55:31 PM
So u could say this 5 months ago. for example "PPL NOT MAKE 600 ATRI IN SETS COZ WE WILL NERF IT, WE CANT ATM COZ WE CANT CRACK SOME FILE"
Anyway is good update to balance pvp.
I clearly SAID , at the moment we cant decomplie the files , cause it takes month just to find where is it located.
P.S. You really think if ive told people dont make 600att on set people would actually listen me?
However was obvious it will be fixed , since there was players who made even 700att on set and not to mention that server was full of sql errors from all who made anything over 300+ in att !!! So this update was needed even from our stability/security side.
Quote from: TrackZero on November 17, 2011, 12:50:28 PM
Do you want me to count unknown number of topics made by you players complaining how our att system sux, how server is shit because of that, how none will join our servers for this reason asking to make it as official etc.. etc.. etc...et freaking c .
After numerous topics regarding that , i have CLEARLY told you that since we got official files pack (c1-2-3-4,IL,HB....GF) MEANS its totally different system of what we had (custom))before , and it requires SHITLOAD of time to decomplie those files and make them editable , by that time when we got those files we wasnt able to decomplie many things (including file were ATT. is located).
Ive been telling you that we SIMPLY CANT still edit the file and set attributes correctly, now after all this months (5 months!) our developers cracked those files and allowed us to set things right.
I know that update strike hard and directly , but this is the only way to bring back balance to ONLY unbalanced thing we have/had, and if you think honestly after GF update we didnt had any mega nerfs or updates like this (dont make me remind you what was happening in IL and HB), so this is the only last balance update that will take a place, and in the end its not only me who can decide about it so this is how it is accept it or not i cant change it.
maybe give coins back?????, u can make that and its fair i think.
Quote from: Vinny on November 17, 2011, 12:59:02 PM
So if u had in plans to change atr system why u not informed us?
Could you do it when it was in the plans. But no. Ppl just lose time and coins for nothing.
Not like other gm-s , you should thank me instead of flame me. Ive got the mail from developers lets say in 4am that they cracked the file and that changes are incoming, and i announce THAT VERY SAME DAY What will happen !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: ribera on November 17, 2011, 01:02:02 PM
maybe give coins back?????, u can make that and its fair i think.
I think you really really lack amount of coins.
good job
lol i not flamed you so chill out :)
nice update ;) , this will be like a deadly blow to this server population...
offtopic
What is this gold frame near lvl?
Quote from: slimx on November 17, 2011, 01:10:56 PM
nice update ;) , this will be like a deadly blow to this server population...
You mean 1k players?
Yeah 1k players gona be 300 now , just read heroes chat , evryone sell stuff !! Ppl donate is not for gm Burn their money is for they can get what they cant on farming ..
New system is good? Ofc it is good , but what about they money/coins?? how u make this ?? just fuk evryone , is not ur money right?
so nothing happened? multiple ppl lost xxx coins but its ok? U seriously think this will not affect server reputation?
its like RL:sometime ppl loose money...
but:first ppl still cry on forum about to high atr on armor,now ppl cry about to low atr?hmmm...
IMO:now its good
You all who complain about losing a lot of money on attribute should keep in mind that you actually were "owning" for some time having high attributes and you paid for that you didnt pay to have this advantage forever. Do you actually realize that in real L2 there are always some updates with new stuff which make people "lose" time/money because their gear gets outdated and they have to farm for new one?
So its stupid to complain about that, its like complaining that with Gracia your dynasty sets became bad and you had to buy vesper.
lol ppls just imagine each one of u broked any nice decent weapon.... shit happens
Quote from: selis83 on November 17, 2011, 01:31:08 PM
how can be balanced? i had one piece of armor to 280 and it was rly rly notecible in the amount of damage. i simply cannot see how can be balanced..maybe fast pvp will be
It is coz in % of resist its similiar to official 120 against 300 on offi, 240 against 450 here. Like i said its good update but we should have info at begin of gracia about this. Peace
http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,261178.msg2305142.html#msg2305142
for fak sake, i have nothing against vinny !
some ppl knew about this update like a week ago ???
DN rule No.1: No matter what GM will do, people are always unhappy :(
Quote from: QuadCore on November 17, 2011, 01:38:25 PM
http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,261178.12.html
some ppl knew about this update like a week ago ???
DN rule No.1: No matter what GM will do, people are always unhappy :(
Huraaaaaaaaay new conspirator theory !! And good , now i can ask vinny for future updates seriously i hope you are joking atm else i will just delete your post.
Quote from: DarkLoverPL on November 17, 2011, 01:27:31 PM
its like RL:sometime ppl loose money...
but:first ppl still cry on forum about to high atr on armor,now ppl cry about to low atr?hmmm...
IMO:now its good
yes ppl cried about high attr. and after they noticed that gm dont give a fok (do u remember that in first time there even wasnt 600attr official :) ). ltr energy price dropped at donny and ltr u can spoil so at that time there wasnt clearly announce u can make 600attr. but u will looose it ltr or sooner. and this the poroblem. If its clearly announce make 400-600attr on ur own risk cos it will like that for 1-2month whatever, than nobody will complain about that. all who have problem here now its not cos that att. lowered nobody think imo its so bad the problem is the way how u loose coin.
Quote from: QuadCore on November 17, 2011, 01:38:25 PM
http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,261178.12.html
some ppl knew about this update like a week ago ???
DN rule No.1: No matter what GM will do, people are always unhappy :(
U retarded or what? 1 st of all Vinny selling items coz ending with l2 coz of other reasons. If u know sh1t better not talk.
not vinny but teh mecho ! ;D
ofc it was just a joke ;)
damn, it will be better if i stop postin'
Quote from: devastah on November 17, 2011, 01:18:03 PM
Yeah 1k players gona be 300 now , just read heroes chat , evryone sell stuff !! Ppl donate is not for gm Burn their money is for they can get what they cant on farming ..
New system is good? Ofc it is good , but what about they money/coins?? how u make this ?? just fuk evryone , is not ur money right?
when server have 1k ppl?? on siege when 50% was box for fame
soon next valky :P
u will allow atribute on dnet to raise up to 240 instead of 180? would be nice
just lol xD I'm like seer :P
Quote from: violetpl on November 17, 2011, 01:46:55 PM
when server have 1k ppl?? on siege when 50% was box for fame
soon next valky :P
You are born to be hater , cant fix that not a therapist.
Also 6k people we have on FB are bots too , of course!
Anyway we started with 400 players in August now reached 1k, but it just means players are using 2,5x boxes each!
HF hater!
+1 Track xD
Nice update ,at least now server is balanced .You guys should remember HB when we all had same attr on set ..there was awesome pvp and "almost" no1 was crying ...Once again good job ,keep it up 8)
QQ
What can u except from private server?
U play here, enchant items, donate etc on own risk. All know in any time this server can be closed or wiped :D
Accept that fact or just shut up and don't spam on forum
Quote from: Pawciu on November 17, 2011, 02:11:01 PM
Accept that fact or just shut up and don't spam on forum
+1
Quote from: TrackZero on November 17, 2011, 01:52:00 PM
You are born to be hater , cant fix that not a therapist.
Also 6k people we have on FB are bots too , of course!
Anyway we started with 400 players in August now reached 1k, but it just means players are using 2,5x boxes each!
HF hater!
To know or subscribe someone or a group is just a click, it does not mean that they actually care about this server, 75% prolly had only connection here once.
About attri change: though U did good with me too, I think it was not the good way. The problem is not the change itself but the lack of information. I don't really understand why these things what affects us players should be always secrets.
ps: it is a normal behavior what we see here. Only those does not complain who do not care or did not have 600 attribute before,
or knew about it. Everyone would cry for wasted money.
This update wasnt even fair, after making 600atr and selling to guys set completely made u shouldn't change it that way everybody lost many coins just becouse u make fail at start, but u reached ur goal dn bank account get some boost from that
Quote from: Arpee87 on November 17, 2011, 02:24:20 PM
To know or subscribe someone or a group is just a click, it does not mean that they actually care about this server, 75% prolly had only connection here once.
About attri change: though U did good with me too, I think it was not the good way. The problem is not the change itself but the lack of information. I don't really understand why these things what affects us players should be always secrets.
Secrets?
Okey this is what i said long ago on begging of the GF, when you players complained about 600att case:
"At this points because we got totally the new files we cant fix yet because we need to decompile the new files " if any of you reasonable people try to understand this it clearly means that at that point we cant fix it but if we are trying to crack the files it means we are working on it and it took all this time (5 months) our developers to make it work but was clearly obvious it needs a fix, its so obvious like fix for antharas necklace drop and few others.
Also after i got the mail from developers about new update i literally INSTA POSTED on forum, to prevent gossips and shits, so please there are really no freakin secrets!
Quote from: Peorexo on November 17, 2011, 02:31:51 PM
This update wasnt even fair, after making 600atr and selling to guys set completely made u shouldn't change it that way everybody lost many coins just becouse u make fail at start, but u reached ur goal dn bank account get some boost from that
+1
Quote from: TrackZero on November 17, 2011, 02:33:43 PM
Secrets?
Okey this is what i said long ago on begging of the GF, when you players complained about 600att case:
"At this points because we got totally the new files we cant fix yet because we need to decompile the new files " if any of you reasonable people try to understand this it clearly means that at that point we cant fix it but if we are trying to crack the files it means we are working on it and it took all this time (5 months) our developers to make it work but was clearly obvious it needs a fix, its so obvious like fix for antharas necklace drop and few others.
when 10 ppls on server has 600 atr and they was killing all by 1-2 hits that was so great !!! now when other ppls get same sets and its start to be more balance u cute atribute on each part again great !!! how much they donate for this update ? now they will donate 2/3 sets and again kill all by 1/2 hits ( all i mean no donny players )
And rly thanks for answer me on pm like 1 month ago i send u pm but you dont care like always
Quote from: qwertyzxc on November 17, 2011, 02:38:13 PM
when 10 ppls on server has 600 atr and they was killing all by 1-2 hits that whas so great !!! now when other ppls get same sets and its start to be more balance u cute atribute on each part again great !!! how much they donate for this update ? now they will donate 2/3 sets and again kill all by 1/2 hits ( all i mean no donny players )
And rly thanks for answer me on pm like 1 month ago i send u pm but you dont care like always
If you believe that anyone can donate for the updates, then i feel sorry for you.
I already explained why we had to fix 600att case, live with that.
Never received any PM from you except , please UNBAN my char.
Quote from: TrackZero on November 17, 2011, 02:33:43 PM
Secrets?
Okey this is what i said long ago on begging of the GF, when you players complained about 600att case:
"At this points because we got totally the new files we cant fix yet because we need to decompile the new files " if any of you reasonable people try to understand this it clearly means that at that point we cant fix it but if we are trying to crack the files it means we are working on it and it took all this time (5 months) our developers to make it work but was clearly obvious it needs a fix, its so obvious like fix for antharas necklace drop and few others.
Also after i got the mail from developers about new update i literally INSTA POSTED on forum, to prevent gossips and shits, so please there are really no freakin secrets!
Human brain does not work like this. U should have written "At this points because we got totally the new files we cant fix yet because we need to decompile the new files. But when we will be able to fix it then it wil work like that and that etc, and U will see that and that ".
Fix has a relative meaning on this server.
And there would not be such long topic like we have now.
Ofc some ppl would complain still..
what can i say? Trackzor u do good job .I lost many time to up my atribute in my armor and i will not QQ ing like rest.simple is same for all.
lets see what new fun will got .
Quote from: Arpee87 on November 17, 2011, 02:42:49 PM
Human brain does not work like this. U should have written "At this points because we got totally the new files we cant fix yet because we need to decompile the new files. But when we will be able to fix it then it wil work like that and that etc, and U will see that and that ".
Fix has a relative meaning on this server.
And there would not be such long topic like we have now. Ofc some ppl would complain still..
Okey so i made mistake not writing correctly the proper sentence, im a human too i make also mistakes. But my meaning of what ive said was intention to tell you that at some point it will be fixed.
Its same like i tell you dont use cloacks they crash the server etc... Did i said ill fix it? No! But does it requiters a fix , QUITE OBVIOUS!
But still after 5 months passives are bugged i mean that all light/heavy/robe are SAME and its not off like, cuz mages have 2 different for nukers/enchanters so it mean sh/sorc/ne/sps can enchant it too not only ol/wc, hvy armor passive for enchanters should give only cast and somethings but it gives 25% resist crit and its passive from tank lol!, also light armor on all chars even on daggers is same like on prophet... everything here is bugged and u started by fixing smth what we already prepared to live with
Hi all
Imo the update is good... I didnt test it in game yet
I think with this update all Will make more dmg but if some Ppl get huge ammount of dmg having 350++++ attri on their sets now with 240 Will be crazy...
Gj for updates
Ps: open video event :)
Quote from: TrackZero on November 17, 2011, 02:49:50 PM
Okey so i made mistake not writing correctly the proper sentence, im a human too i make also mistakes. But my meaning of what ive said was intention to tell you that at some point it will be fixed.
Its same like i tell you dont use cloacks they crash the server etc... Did i said ill fix it? No! But does it requiters a fix , QUITE OBVIOUS!
Offtopic
GM on Dragon server wrote that today night will be some update. Can u give us info about this? Thx
Quote from: qwertyzxc on November 17, 2011, 02:38:13 PM
when 10 ppls on server has 600 atr and they was killing all by 1-2 hits that was so great !!! now when other ppls get same sets and its start to be more balance u cute atribute on each part again great !!! how much they donate for this update ? now they will donate 2/3 sets and again kill all by 1/2 hits ( all i mean no donny players )
And rly thanks for answer me on pm like 1 month ago i send u pm but you dont care like always
ohh i didn't knew that attr in armor adds also output dmg :o
I just want to say that in this server people lost track of what is playing L2 all about. We play in a 20x because we cant afford, and overall its not that fun to grind and farm all the time. There are more clans for farming and ppl spend more time on their alts that on their mains, just to farm for energies.
We spend too much time farming here and are slaves of this insane attr system...so i say freakING FINALY WE CAN STOP FARMING AND START ACTUALY PLAYING!!! Instead of taking months and months to get all pieces to 600, its easier to say "ok this is done, i can actualy start playing and enjoy the game"...
I feel for those who donated and grinded to get pieces to 600 attr, but, well....sh1t happens, i care more about the fun in the overall server than on a few hardcore grinders...
Gj track, keep it up!!
Quote from: MegaZord on November 17, 2011, 02:55:56 PM
Offtopic
GM on Dragon server wrote that today night will be some update. Can u give us info about this? Thx
Its this what we are talking about + what ive wrote in annoucments few days ago , they will get thsoe updates too now.
Drake will write tonight all in loader what we changed (tonight) as he told me, also new armors should be finally on clientside so i can test them and after test to implement them in new system of farming as i posted previously.
Quote from: SvenMollerFah on November 17, 2011, 02:58:17 PM
I just want to say that in this server people lost track of what is playing L2 all about. We play in a 20x because we cant afford, and overall its not that fun to grind and farm all the time. There are more clans for farming and ppl spend more time on their alts that on their mains, just to farm for energies.
We spend too much time farming here and are slaves of this insane attr system...so i say freakING FINALY WE CAN STOP FARMING AND START ACTUALY PLAYING!!! Instead of taking months and months to get all pieces to 600, its easier to say "ok this is done, i can actualy start playing and enjoy the game"...
I feel for those who donated and grinded to get pieces to 600 attr, but, well....sh1t happens, i care more about the fun in the overall server than on a few hardcore grinders...
Gj track, keep it up!!
+1
i hope this update bring more action to the server
Quote from: TrackZero on November 17, 2011, 02:49:50 PM
Okey so i made mistake not writing correctly the proper sentence, im a human too i make also mistakes. But my meaning of what ive said was intention to tell you that at some point it will be fixed.
Its same like i tell you dont use cloacks they crash the server etc... Did i said ill fix it? No! But does it requiters a fix , QUITE OBVIOUS!
All of us think the same but noone says what they have to say. So here u go....
I warned u time ago ur server is losing its credability like this. Imo looks just another "FIX" -> "insert coin to continue" cause now players will need to get a second set and more energies to get full defense vs weapons 450 attri. U could set max attri on 450 not 240. Was it too hard for ur "developers" ? So funny this update came when all server was about to stop donating for energies cause they was too cheap on market and almost all manage to achieve 400+
Prove us wrong and set max weapons attri on 280-300. As for the unstable etc What was unstable ? I try dmg on water with 1 part of water attri def (450 ) and 3 parts of water def (1350)
Damage was the same.
Quote from: SvenMollerFah on November 17, 2011, 02:58:17 PM
I just want to say that in this server people lost track of what is playing L2 all about. We play in a 20x because we cant afford, and overall its not that fun to grind and farm all the time. There are more clans for farming and ppl spend more time on their alts that on their mains, just to farm for energies.
We spend too much time farming here and are slaves of this insane attr system...so i say freakING FINALY WE CAN STOP FARMING AND START ACTUALY PLAYING!!! Instead of taking months and months to get all pieces to 600, its easier to say "ok this is done, i can actualy start playing and enjoy the game"...
I feel for those who donated and grinded to get pieces to 600 attr, but, well....sh1t happens, i care more about the fun in the overall server than on a few hardcore grinders...
Gj track, keep it up!!
+1
Quote from: lucifsg on November 17, 2011, 03:07:14 PM
All of us think the same but noone says what they have to say. So here u go....
I warned u time ago ur server is losing its credability like this. Imo looks just another "FIX" -> "insert coin to continue" cause now players will need to get a second set and more energies to get full defense vs weapons 450 attri. U could set max attri on 450 not 240. Was it too hard for ur "developers" ? So funny this update came when all server was about to stop donating for energies cause they was too cheap on market and almost all manage to achieve 400+
Prove us wrong and set max weapons attri on 280-300.
As for the unstable etc What was unstable ? I try dmg on water with 1 part of water attri def (450 ) and 3 parts of water def (1350)
Damage was the same.
Only oly farmers will buy next sets to have full resist. Ppl that play normal on pvp and not care about oly will stay with this what they have.
I feel robbed.
sold my set RB
done 150 euros
to get energy
for this
The atrib system now its +/- like on HB, BUT if the atrib system was not working like it should why u didnt desativated it until this "FIX" was ready?
You made people farm/donate to get nice atrib on set and now after almost everyone who cared for have a decent set to pvp had sets rdy u bring a "fix". pathetic...
But well this its a business afterall and u did a nice (low) economic move, more vesper sets sell on donny
but nevertheless, it seems a good idea
the bad thing is we lost many coins
:(
I know you guys how are you feeling... I wasted over 300 dc in HB for lifestones and after that they got fuked....
the show must go on.... :(
Quote from: lucifsg on November 17, 2011, 03:07:14 PM
All of us think the same but noone says what they have to say. So here u go....
I warned u time ago ur server is losing its credability like this. Imo looks just another "FIX" -> "insert coin to continue" cause now players will need to get a second set and more energies to get full defense vs weapons 450 attri. U could set max attri on 450 not 240. Was it too hard for ur "developers" ? So funny this update came when all server was about to stop donating for energies cause they was too cheap on market and almost all manage to achieve 400+
Prove us wrong and set max weapons attri on 280-300.
As for the unstable etc What was unstable ? I try dmg on water with 1 part of water attri def (450 ) and 3 parts of water def (1350)
Damage was the same.
To be honest luci, by doing this update none of us thought about donny not even for 1 second, so really you are not right now.
About error we was getting 'overboost on 600att", as a player you cant see it , but our sql base was full of errors and well our devs was getting crazy every month since all the servers are accessible by our devs. And honestly i dont think that average player farmer/pvper/siege guy needs 2 sets or w/e, update is made exactly when the possibility unlocked and overall i think for the sake of whole community and future is good, after all this mess pass some will say thank you, youll see.
And about management , luci, if you compare what other HUGE multi million companies (even countries!!!) does and how they threat their community , i think we should win a Nobel prize!
This "fix" its good for pvp idd, BUT the timming if it its simple bullsh1t, its this who a normal and honest person cant understand, well i can if i wanted to get money from players... and dont think im crying the dc`s on energys, what pisses me off its the attitude
Quote from: Peorexo on November 17, 2011, 02:31:51 PM
This update wasnt even fair, after making 600atr and selling to guys set completely made u shouldn't change it that way everybody lost many coins just becouse u make fail at start, but u reached ur goal dn bank account get some boost from that
+1
Good Job Track! :)
Don't listen to this addicts! :D They will stay here for looooong... ::)
so is funny why u made promotion on energies, u made them spoilable, just so ppl would spend coins/hours to make cool sets (even that u knew would be max 240 and u didnt say anything about it), and when most finished with it, *BAM* wipe...
Quote from: plee on November 17, 2011, 04:15:11 PM
so is funny why u made promotion on energies, u made them spoilable, just so ppl would spend coins/hours to make cool sets (even that u knew would be max 240 and u didnt say anything about it), and when most finished with it, *BAM* wipe...
Would it matter to you if i tell you i didnt know?
Only reason i putted this spoil/drop its because of the very same reason you are complaining. I spammed our devs to fix this 600att issue quite a lot, after their silence of few months, i started to search for a temp solution ,..............and after a few months of silence about this case they appeared and mailed me ATT ISSUE FIXED , after that i went instantly on forum and posted it that we plan this update so more or less you were informed at the same day ive got the info.
Could it come earlier? Yes , obvious!
But some things and decisions had to be made like this. In the end if i knew we gonna have 240 att you really think i would put 10:1 in donny?
Now you can all continue to buld up ur conspirator theory about all etc... but things which happened happened , cant change anymore and in the end im not ONLY one here who decides about things , so continue to sharp up your swords here and lets have more and more drama.
Cheers
P.S. Latest info ive got is that weapon will be 540 not 450.
Quote from: TrackZero on November 17, 2011, 04:21:29 PM
Would it matter to you if i tell you i didnt know?
Only reason i putted this spoil/drop its because of the very same reason you are complaining. I spammed our devs to fix this 600att issue quite a lot, after their silence of few months, i started to search for a temp solution ,..............and after a few months of silence about this case they appeared and mailed me ATT ISSUE FIXED , after that i went instantly on forum and posted it that we plan this update so more or less you were informed at the same day ive got the info.
Could it come earlier? Yes , obvious!
But some things and decisions had to be made like this. In the end if i knew we gonna have 240 att you really think i would put 10:1 in donny?
Now you can all continue to buld up ur conspirator theory about all etc... but things which happened happened , cant change anymore and in the end im not ONLY one here who decides about things , so continue to sharp up your swords here and lets have more and more drama.
Cheers
P.S. Latest info ive got is that weapon will be 540 not 450.
hahahah gg with tha policy now all will be dieing in 1 combo or even 1-2hits and u want to make that on server? WHO WILL PLAY HERE if no1 will be able to stand more than 5 sec od fight? even on ud? comeone dude look on what ur making here
Quote from: Peorexo on November 17, 2011, 04:28:32 PM
hahahah gg with tha policy now all will be dieing in 1 combo or even 1-2hits and u want to make that on server? WHO WILL PLAY HERE if no1 will be able to stand more than 5 sec od fight? even on ud? comeone dude look on what ur making here
This is what they have told me , but u know what since its not written in loader this is just a test period so we have to see how its actually going in game! So consider this as a open beta test before you continue with your QQ style , wait a bit.
So ALL YOU TRADERS/SELLERS AND BUYERS wait with your actions few days untill changes we make are permanent !
Instead of flaming help us in testing to find perfect balance for everyone.
Quote from: Peorexo on November 17, 2011, 04:28:32 PM
hahahah gg with tha policy now all will be dieing in 1 combo or even 1-2hits and u want to make that on server? WHO WILL PLAY HERE if no1 will be able to stand more than 5 sec od fight? even on ud? comeone dude look on what ur making here
dude 70% of server didnt had atributes above 300 so wtf r u talking about lol .1-2 hits? funny shit
Quote from: Peorexo on November 17, 2011, 04:28:32 PM
hahahah gg with tha policy now all will be dieing in 1 combo or even 1-2hits and u want to make that on server? WHO WILL PLAY HERE if no1 will be able to stand more than 5 sec od fight? even on ud? comeone dude look on what ur making here
People that fought on 180 atribute knows that pvp even vs OE weapons isnt like that u described. We should be as close to retail as possible, they are fixing stuff, patching etc and they are doing a good job. Enchant to 600 was never a feature, was a bug, and that was plain for all to see.
Maybe now less farm and more activity.
Quote from: jygh on November 17, 2011, 04:39:37 PM
dude 70% of server didnt had atributes above 300 so wtf r u talking about lol .1-2 hits? funny shit
+1
Quote from: jygh on November 17, 2011, 04:39:37 PM
dude 70% of server didnt had atributes above 300 so wtf r u talking about lol .1-2 hits? funny shit
i had only draco set and ds+f on my orc and i made my atr alone so if someone havent atr it his problem that he cant go and farm a bit ...
Quote from: Peorexo on November 17, 2011, 04:46:32 PM
i had only draco set and ds+f on my orc and i made my atr alone so if someone havent atr it his problem that he cant go and farm a bit ...
u just made no sence at all cause u said pvp at this atributes r 1-2 hits and now u talk about how u farmed with orc lol.... is not common sence
Quote from: ylim on November 17, 2011, 01:41:41 PM
yes ppl cried about high attr. and after they noticed that gm dont give a fok (do u remember that in first time there even wasnt 600attr official :) ). ltr energy price dropped at donny and ltr u can spoil so at that time there wasnt clearly announce u can make 600attr. but u will looose it ltr or sooner. and this the poroblem. If its clearly announce make 400-600attr on ur own risk cos it will like that for 1-2month whatever, than nobody will complain about that. all who have problem here now its not cos that att. lowered nobody think imo its so bad the problem is the way how u loose coin.
true
Quote from: TrackZero on November 17, 2011, 04:21:29 PMP.S. Latest info ive got is that weapon will be 540 not 450.
xD
Quote from: PolSilv3r on November 17, 2011, 04:13:57 PM
Good Job Track! :)
Don't listen to this addicts! :D They will stay here for looooong... ::)
+1 :)
Quote from: TrackZero on November 17, 2011, 04:31:29 PM
This is what they have told me , but u know what since its not written in loader this is just a test period so we have to see how its actually going in game! So consider this as a open beta test before you continue with your QQ style , wait a bit.
So ALL YOU TRADERS/SELLERS AND BUYERS wait with your actions few days untill changes we make are permanent !
Instead of flaming help us in testing to find perfect balance for everyone.
Excuse me. If the changes are not permanent and increase atr number again you are gonna give the lost attribute back? :D. No way...
Quote from: VforVanilla on November 17, 2011, 05:21:59 PM
Excuse me. If the changes are not permanent and increase atr number again you are gonna give the lost attribute back? :D. No way...
You were paying for years a monthly fee on official servers to play for something called Lineage 2, now they made some crap chronicle update thats not even l2 anymore and made it f2p, will ncsoft return you the money you payed all this years?
You bought a brand new game on steam , after 2-3 months they make 80% off deal of very same game you payed X amount, will they give you back the difference?
You bought a brand new car , you sit in it start the endgine and after a 50km you really dont like the car, you go back to shop and wanna change the care but look surprise its already -25% of what you payed. Will they give u back those 25%?
You bought brand new Iphone 4s , omg your so happy about it, you even took white one and 64gb, after a week you read that they announced for June Iphone 5 , will they give you back the money?
Quote from: TrackZero on November 17, 2011, 04:21:29 PM
P.S. Latest info ive got is that weapon will be 540 not 450.
buhahahahahahahahahaha
are you fvcking kidding me or what ???
it's senceless to decrease max att in armor to 240 and then increase maxx att in weapon to 540 IT'S SEEK
Track do it if you want to lose ppl on server
Quote from: Vargine on November 17, 2011, 05:32:26 PM
buhahahahahahahahahaha
are you fvcking kidding me or what ???
it's senceless to decrease max att in armor to 240 and then increase maxx att in weapon to 540 IT'S SEEK
Track do it if you want to lose ppl on server
Did you read the part i said a open beta test for a week before we decide about it?
Also do you even know how attribute sytem works, if yes then explain me please i wanna hear it?
If you know suddenly go afk without explanation i will understand that your answer is NO.
Quote from: TrackZero on November 17, 2011, 05:29:03 PM
You were paying for years a monthly fee on official servers to play for something called Lineage 2, now they made some crap chronicle update thats not even l2 anymore and made it f2p, will ncsoft return you the money you payed all this years?
You bought a brand new game on steam , after 2-3 months they make 80% off deal of very same game you payed X amount, will they give you back the difference?
You bought a brand new car , you sit in it start the endgine and after a 50km you really dont like the car, you go back to shop and wanna change the care but look surprise its already -25% of what you payed. Will they give u back those 25%?
You bought brand new Iphone 4s , omg your so happy about it, you even took white one and 64gb, after a week you read that they announced for June Iphone 5 , will they give you back the money?
whole ur post 1 big pathetic fail. if u bought smth for sure seller wont come to u for change that thing for worst one and after some time tell u: we made mistake so u can buy this thing again but pay us plz 1 more time. dont u think so? u can test this sh1ton ur beta server as well but u decide make test on players. just pathetic.
Quote from: TrackZero on November 17, 2011, 12:50:28 PM
Do you want me to count unknown number of topics made by you players complaining how our att system sux, how server is shit because of that, how none will join our servers for this reason asking to make it as official etc.. etc.. etc...et freaking c .
After numerous topics regarding that , i have CLEARLY told you that since we got official files pack (c1-2-3-4,IL,HB....GF) MEANS its totally different system of what we had (custom))before , and it requires SHITLOAD of time to decomplie those files and make them editable , by that time when we got those files we wasnt able to decomplie many things (including file were ATT. is located).
Ive been telling you that we SIMPLY CANT still edit the file and set attributes correctly, now after all this months (5 months!) our developers cracked those files and allowed us to set things right.
I know that update strike hard and directly , but this is the only way to bring back balance to ONLY unbalanced thing we have/had, and if you think honestly after GF update we didnt had any mega nerfs or updates like this (dont make me remind you what was happening in IL and HB), so this is the only last balance update that will take a place, and in the end its not only me who can decide about it so this is how it is accept it or not i cant change it.
GJ +1
Duno wtf you ppl qq like crazy here.This is good update Track! Keep it up!
On dragon we had an still have 180 attribute on armor and 450 for weapon and nobody died 1-2 hits so gtfo with you qq's.And 240 vs 540 is 30 more attr on weapon...(450-180=270; 540-240=300) WOW what a big difference Lmfao! Can't even imagine that here you guys had 600 on 1 part even 700 o.O wtf n/c.
Quote from: TrackZero on November 17, 2011, 05:36:59 PM
Did you read the part i said a open beta test for a week before we decide about it?
Also do you even know how attribute sytem works, if yes then explain me please i wanna hear it?
If you know suddenly go afk without explanation i will understand that your answer is NO.
i know how is it working on OFF servers
and about our att system hmm I AM LOOKING FOR A PERSON WHO WILL UNDERSTAND IT coz i think this "FAQ" http://www.dragon-network.net/CTupdnews/faq_attributesystem.html (even not working) is not actual
Track i know you want to make somethink with server good for you but you have to understand that some updates are good and some not
this wosnt
about att mb increase max att from 240 to 300 at least
Quote from: TrackZero on November 17, 2011, 05:36:59 PM
Did you read the part i said a open beta test for a week before we decide about it?
Also do you even know how attribute sytem works, if yes then explain me please i wanna hear it?
If you know suddenly go afk without explanation i will understand that your answer is NO.
you dont know how is working so rly ask gideon mby he can teach you
but for you is to late
Quote from: TrackZero on November 17, 2011, 04:21:29 PM
P.S. Latest info ive got is that weapon will be 540 not 450.
just 1 precaution, before you make this shit:
ppl, who put on their vespers {PvP} SA will have to remove it, to put new attributes, thus losing ~37k fame :D ;D
do i need to write, how much time it takes normal players to get this?
Quote from: flamingAwe on November 17, 2011, 06:06:37 PM
just 1 precaution, before you make this shit:
ppl, who put on their vespers {PvP} SA will have to remove it, to put new attributes, thus losing ~37k fame :D ;D
do i need to write, how much time it takes normal players to get this?
2 months ? ;P
Quote from: TrackZero on November 17, 2011, 05:29:03 PM
You were paying for years a monthly fee on official servers to play for something called Lineage 2, now they made some crap chronicle update thats not even l2 anymore and made it f2p, will ncsoft return you the money you payed all this years?
You bought a brand new game on steam , after 2-3 months they make 80% off deal of very same game you payed X amount, will they give you back the difference?
You bought a brand new car , you sit in it start the endgine and after a 50km you really dont like the car, you go back to shop and wanna change the care but look surprise its already -25% of what you payed. Will they give u back those 25%?
You bought brand new Iphone 4s , omg your so happy about it, you even took white one and 64gb, after a week you read that they announced for June Iphone 5 , will they give you back the money?
Next great idea, its like BIG TRACK PLAN, nerf everything and then boost again to make ppl buy more energies xD
U just killed me with that reply
lmao
Just check hero chat ! A lot of ppl leaving this , and btw atribute system is bugged "what a surprise" , i still hit ppl same as when they had 600 atribute , nothign changed! just tested in olim
Quote from: DKociak on November 17, 2011, 06:40:33 PM
+ 1 for deacrease atribute in armor ... BUT DONT ADD BIGGER BONUS TO WEAPON ...U WILL DRAWN WITH BIGGER SH1T!!!
ppl must delete pvp-bonus...and i thinking who will test 540 atr in wep.....Pigmacullate??
240 in each armor part and 450 in weapon is OK!!!! ............ DONT F.U.C.K IT MORE!!!
BTW. free official server Lineage2.eu ( Goddes Of Destruction chronicle) will be opened soon , WITH NORAML ATRIBUTES!!!
Make more "freaked" thingz hire and ppl go they play with normal LA2 coz have enough of th1s sh1t
Thats why i said we will test it , ill test it! However about GoD is not l2 anymore youll realise that yourself .
Once again about attributes will take us up to 7 days to decide final numbers.
What about previous post from a mature guy who said its not working at all?
One idea, lets delete atri at all dont make war with that lets all be only patk/pdef matk/mdef affected !
EVERYONE NEEDS TO READ THE DONATING INFO TEXT .
Quote from: Naku on November 17, 2011, 07:03:17 PM
EVERYONE NEEDS TO READ THE DONATING INFO TEXT .
dude u rly dumb or dunno..... not all here kurwa got their equip, attr etc throught donation like u. but u focused only on donation as i see...
Quote from: TrackZero on November 17, 2011, 03:32:28 PM
To be honest luci, by doing this update none of us thought about donny not even for 1 second, so really you are not right now.
About error we was getting 'overboost on 600att", as a player you cant see it , but our sql base was full of errors and well our devs was getting crazy every month since all the servers are accessible by our devs. And honestly i dont think that average player farmer/pvper/siege guy needs 2 sets or w/e, update is made exactly when the possibility unlocked and overall i think for the sake of whole community and future is good, after all this mess pass some will say thank you, youll see.
And about management , luci, if you compare what other HUGE multi million companies (even countries!!!) does and how they threat their community , i think we should win a Nobel prize!
Time will show i just hope u know what ur doing cause many of us got dissapointed. As for the examples u gave, our situation is like this: You buy iphone 4s and in 2 months (not 12 or more , just 2 !) apple announce new price @ 200 eyro. Now tell me how do u feel u gave 650.... But then again apple would never do that.
As for the update ye noone wants bugged attri etc. Wish it was like that since start or reduced @ 450 or 400.
ppl think about it on dragon nobody cry about att (they have 180 in armor) dunno what wrong with our server
Quote from: Vargine on November 17, 2011, 07:24:26 PM
ppl think about it on dragon nobody cry about att (they have 180 in armor) dunno what wrong with our server
That we had 600 and we spend many coins to make that, and it just dissapear? maybe becouse of that? if we count on price with donny 10:1 when its 10% land rate to make 420atr by energies in each part u need to spend 70 energies per part, its 70*5 = 350 1 land per 1 coin so 350coins? :)
Quote from: DKociak on November 17, 2011, 06:40:33 PM
+ 1 for deacrease atribute in armor ... BUT DONT ADD BIGGER BONUS TO WEAPON ...U WILL DRAWN WITH BIGGER SH1T!!!
ppl must delete pvp-bonus...and i thinking who will test 540 atr in wep.....Pigmacullate??
240 in each armor part and 450 in weapon is OK!!!! ............ DONT F.U.C.K IT MORE!!!
BTW. free official server Lineage2.eu ( Goddes Of Destruction chronicle) will be opened soon , WITH NORAML ATRIBUTES!!!
Make more "freaked" thingz hire and ppl go they play with normal LA2 coz have enough of th1s sh1t
i doubt ppl go play normal l2 just bcoz its free and have NORMAL ATT SYESTEM lol , u pay for playing here ?, not ... we got unique sub system that make big difference then off l2 style .
go and start everything form "0" gl.... :D
i bet this new server will be full of l2w etc ... like official is <Naia> ... enjoy ...
Quote from: Shadow21 on November 17, 2011, 07:07:21 PM
dude u rly dumb or dunno..... not all here kurwa got their equip, attr etc throught donation like u. but u focused only on donation as i see...
I focus on how people fail to read plain english, 600 was not permanent, still people invested on something that wasnt sure to be true.
What i said about donation is trve, go look on people talking about big DC investiments, spending so much money on stuff that now has no value. not even 50% of actual 600 armors were done farming and you know it as well as I do. And me? you should check my atribute levels before talking.
And also, if someone here has experience on playing ANY mmo...things change, drastically sometimes, and players got to hadle themselves. The games change, nothing remains the same, look at the evolution of L2. I understand that now l33tz0rds are less l33tz0rds but if that is the evolution of DN we gotta bare with it.
Atm attri system is facked up. 240 gives u low protection and dmg is huge. Tested also on full resist (450 + buffs after) with more parts of same attri type and guess what. Gives u sh1t , damage is same ....
Quote from: lucifsg on November 17, 2011, 08:18:32 PM
Atm attri system is facked up. 240 gives u low protection and dmg is huge. Tested also on full resist (450 + buffs after) with more parts of same attri type and guess what. Gives u sh1t , damage is same ....
Hmm i wonder if they dont made that 240max atr also max value for resist so if u have more it stlil work like 240... gj! :)
Quote from: Peorexo on November 17, 2011, 08:22:38 PM
Hmm i wonder if they dont made that 240max atr also max value for resist so if u have more it stlil work like 240... gj! :)
so maby 600att never worked ?:P it was only numbers ?:P
Quote from: PainMaster on November 17, 2011, 08:25:09 PM
so maby 600att never worked ?:P it was only numbers ?:P
:D
Quote from: PainMaster on November 17, 2011, 08:25:09 PM
so maby 600att never worked ?:P it was only numbers ?:P
maybe you are from mars?
as i see,ppl from this serv ,like always,QQ and QQ...and...QQ....
this game is like RL!sometimes ppl lost some money...its normal!!
so:stop spam/QQ/etc and make some fun ingame!!now all can stop farm and make some pvp/etc
btw.IMO now atr system is ok
Quote from: DarkLoverPL on November 17, 2011, 08:46:07 PM
as i see,ppl from this serv ,like always,QQ and QQ...and...QQ....
this game is like RL!sometimes ppl lost some money...its normal!!
so:stop spam/QQ/etc and make some fun ingame!!now all can stop farm and make some pvp/etc
btw.IMO now atr system is ok
+1
Quote from: DarkLoverPL on November 17, 2011, 08:46:07 PM
as i see,ppl from this serv ,like always,QQ and QQ...and...QQ....
this game is like RL!sometimes ppl lost some money...its normal!!
so:stop spam/QQ/etc and make some fun ingame!!now all can stop farm and make some pvp/etc
btw.IMO now atr system is ok
joke of the day XD u mean u went in and test it right ? and u found it ok ?
n/c XD
Quote from: lucifsg on November 17, 2011, 09:27:08 PM
joke of the day XD u mean u went in and test it right ? and u found it ok ?
n/c XD
he was telling about nerfing to 240 why? becouse he dont know how to farm, only giran stair sitting he dont lost cash, so everything fine
Quote from: TrackZero on November 17, 2011, 02:42:14 PM
If you believe that anyone can donate for the updates, then i feel sorry for you.
I already explained why we had to fix 600att case, live with that.
Never received any PM from you except , please UNBAN my char.
NOPE ? OWNED
special for you Track
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dunno what point u have to lie me i didnt pm you :|
Quote from: Peorexo on November 17, 2011, 09:30:07 PM
he was telling about nerfing to 240 why? becouse he dont know how to farm, only giran stair sitting he dont lost cash, so everything fine
as we all see,i have moron in clan...LOL...
i lost atr to..
btw im still on stairs in giran?u r normal??
as i see and hear u on communicator u still cry about not working atr...so..u scared about oly? :P
ppl again:stop cry about everything and go make some fun!
Quote from: DarkLoverPL on November 17, 2011, 09:44:58 PM
as we all see,i have moron in clan...LOL...
i lost atr to..
btw im still on stairs in giran?u r normal??
as i see and hear u on communicator u still cry about not working atr...so..u scared about oly? :P
ppl again:stop cry about everything and go make some fun!
Im crying? i Just told u that atr dont work like it should cuz even if i have 500atr i still work like 240 it wasnt a cry, u lost atr? tell me on what aprt u have more than 240, its also a bullsh!t, and i never was scared about oly i like to fight that all
Quote from: Peorexo on November 17, 2011, 09:47:16 PM
Im crying? i Just told u that atr dont work like it should cuz even if i have 500atr i still work like 240 it wasnt a cry, u lost atr? tell me on what aprt u have more than 240, its also a bullsh!t, and i never was scared about oly i like to fight that all
all my atr was more than 240 :P MORE !! and working or not...i dont cry about everything...its just a game!stop make another drama!
go make now 540 in weapon track need new TV ;D
rly funny gideon is your idea??
ok,kids!Track say:we test it seven days..!
stop drama and cry!!
make some fun!
ps.if GM set atr in weap 540 we dont need spend coins at Donny,all can farm some energys for +90 more atr...or meaby not energys but jewels like always on weapons..
Gg ;D i like it even if i spent a lot of time and dc for make some part500...btw lower weapons to 300 so no1 need to buy 2nd set;D and all rest will be good...more balance makes all happy;D
Quote from: DarkLoverPL on November 17, 2011, 10:51:16 PM
ok,kids!Track say:we test it seven days..!
stop drama and cry!!
make some fun!
ps.if GM set atr in weap 540 we dont need spend coins at Donny,all can farm some energys for +90 more atr...or meaby not energys but jewels like always on weapons..
Uhm, and what about FAME [from the {PvP} SA], I don't think that all who have it in weapon, wanna re-make it once again 26k+++ ...
Quote from: TrackZero on November 17, 2011, 05:29:03 PM
You were paying for years a monthly fee on official servers to play for something called Lineage 2, now they made some crap chronicle update thats not even l2 anymore and made it f2p, will ncsoft return you the money you payed all this years?
You bought a brand new game on steam , after 2-3 months they make 80% off deal of very same game you payed X amount, will they give you back the difference?
You bought a brand new car , you sit in it start the endgine and after a 50km you really dont like the car, you go back to shop and wanna change the care but look surprise its already -25% of what you payed. Will they give u back those 25%?
You bought brand new Iphone 4s , omg your so happy about it, you even took white one and 64gb, after a week you read that they announced for June Iphone 5 , will they give you back the money?
lol track ommmgggg WTF!!!! are u talking about if u buy a car for example v8 4000 yes in time price can go down but car company will never talk to u to say srry ur v8 is to pro we have to change it for a v6 3000 or if u have a iphone 4s apple will never call u and say srry ur phone is to pro we have to nerft it or change it for a worst one (u still have the same car and the same phone even if price change the phone and the car will be remain the same phone and the same car, they will never nerft ur car and ur phone) , but u are nerfing the sets so this is not the same and will never be the same.
Quote from: DarkLoverPL on November 17, 2011, 09:59:01 PM
all my atr was more than 240 :P MORE !! and working or not...i dont cry about everything...its just a game!stop make another drama!
Do you realize he is just telling u attri system doesnt work as it should?!
Having 240 water ressist or having 720 is the same. thats working fine to u?
Even if this is solved dmg atm is huge. So it will be who will pew pew 1st. thats "working better imo" ss u said ?
U crit 1st he is down, he crits u 1st , ur down. Thats how u wanna pvp?
Quote from: lucifsg on November 18, 2011, 03:02:13 AM
Do you realize he is just telling u attri system doesnt work as it should?!
Having 240 water ressist or having 720 is the same. thats working fine to u?
Even if this is solved dmg atm is huge. So it will be who will pew pew 1st. thats "working better imo" ss u said ?
U crit 1st he is down, he crits u 1st , ur down. Thats how u wanna pvp?
i never had full atrb, tbh i had 200 atrb, i never died in 1 shot unless i was w/o buff...
Quote from: DKociak on November 18, 2011, 02:18:52 AM
Track all this sh1ts starts when u made 600 atr each armor part ( we [infinity players] writing to u..NO !! u doing wrong but u dont listen...u listen ppl like pigmacullate and others "weezers" aka sh1t eaters...now u drawning in UR own sh1et)....dunno why..i think only marsians and pigmacullate known what is on DN now
for me its only one way to end this....DO THIS LIKE SHOULD IT BE>OFICIAL
from UR side it can be critic, drama etc but i wannt only ONE F4KING THINK....GOOD SERVER
now ...SWIM!!!!
and ban its not a solve of this problem ...U wanna cash and ppl wanna play...do somethink for both sides..but with BRAIN
more drama please :D
+1 for update, thank you :D
Who will have more coins, will be have 2 set's +2 other parts... This isnt fair for farmers.
Quote from: lucifsg on November 18, 2011, 03:02:13 AM
Do you realize he is just telling u attri system doesnt work as it should?!
Having 240 water ressist or having 720 is the same. thats working fine to u?
Even if this is solved dmg atm is huge. So it will be who will pew pew 1st. thats "working better imo" ss u said ?
U crit 1st he is down, he crits u 1st , ur down. Thats how u wanna pvp?
if it's true...it's not good.
ppl started to cry about this attr nerf and wanna leave server .... i left server 3-4 months ago cause of this stupid attr system that took me all the joy of playing (and i am not the only one ) .... now cause of this nerf i'll be back in game (i hope i will be not the only one ) , hoping pvp will be fun as it was before gracia attr update
whatever will happen ppl will get in or out ...end of story
This is not cry. These are only laws about ppl. You will must have more parts to max resist dmg.
Who cry. You will see qq after this remake.
Quote from: cerebelo on November 18, 2011, 09:25:09 AM
ppl started to cry about this attr nerf and wanna leave server .... i left server 3-4 months ago cause of this stupid attr system that took me all the joy of playing (and i am not the only one ) .... now cause of this nerf i'll be back in game (i hope i will be not the only one ) , hoping pvp will be fun as it was before gracia attr update
whatever will happen ppl will get in or out ...end of story
seems u forgot 10-15k crits on ur ass. come back ill show u again xD
Quote from: Shadow21 on November 18, 2011, 09:56:43 AM
seems u forgot 10-15k crits on ur ass. come back ill show u again xD
it will be ever a pleasure to pvp with u ,even if i loose in most of cases , except when u ( not u onu -----> u enemyes ) kill on spawn , or flame us noobs for loosing
cmon only 14 sites i think u can do better xD
I think its first time Track make such good move. It was late but its better than never. Some no lifers cry they will leave?! - fine, others will come back so go on.
Quote from: Triuferkkk on November 18, 2011, 06:10:21 AM
i never had full atrb, tbh i had 200 atrb, i never died in 1 shot unless i was w/o buff...
more drama please :D
+1 for update, thank you :D
yes u can stand about 1:30 up to 2min alive cuz u are .... tank! But think about that there is still some guys like me and others playing NOTTANK class (surprised?) We cant open ud's, after few debuffs dmg is huge and u cant change that, and increasing weapon atr isnt helpfull atm, cuz armor atr dont work
Quote from: Peorexo on November 18, 2011, 03:42:27 PM
yes u can stand about 1:30 up to 2min alive cuz u are .... tank! But think about that there is still some guys like me and others playing NOTTANK class (surprised?) We cant open ud's, after few debuffs dmg is huge and u cant change that, and increasing weapon atr isnt helpfull atm, cuz armor atr dont work
you have right im all time on UD cuz im TANK, doesnt matter that all uds counted on time give me 1 and half min (w/o ama) defence, tell me if pvp last max 2 mins here?
and this that you bought some1s set 600 def(paid much for it) and couldnt sell it before update is not community foult, not our foult :(
Quote from: Triuferkkk on November 18, 2011, 03:59:33 PM
you have right im all time on UD cuz im TANK, doesnt matter that all uds counted on time give me 1 and half min (w/o ama) defence, tell me if pvp last max 2 mins here?
and this that you bought some1s set 600 def(paid much for it) and couldnt sell it before update is not community foult, not our foult :(
PvP last longer but trust me playing char what havent deflect arrow/magic is a bit hard ... even if we dont count ud's, and that set with 600atr was helpfull with that i was like mid-grade tank :P
So much QQ... And the best is that... You will stay here and beg your moms not to turn off the power while playing! :D
Quote from: Peorexo on November 18, 2011, 05:40:41 PM
PvP last longer but trust me playing char what havent deflect arrow/magic is a bit hard ... even if we dont count ud's, and that set with 600atr was helpfull with that i was like mid-grade tank :P
i forgot that on server play only archers and hm mages (where i count deflect magic not as so important skill)
and here is answer, you wanna be "mid grade tank" while you r JUST mage/mage ha ha ha
and no, i wont trust you, why? cuz your explanations/arguments arent good at all, they r not prooved by anything
as i said in previous post its just butthurt that you failed with trades
Low a bit weapons and pvp will be longer ;D and more funny for all;D
buuuuuuuuuuh;D
Quote from: TrackZero on November 18, 2011, 02:26:21 PM
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oh great answer track sad that you want answer on other important question that I asked you (http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,260011.0.html) ... n/c
Quote from: Vargine on November 18, 2011, 07:38:23 PM
oh great answer track sad that you want answer on other important question that I asked you (http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,260011.0.html) ... n/c
If u want some official answer u can post on Bug Report topic:
http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,261228.0.html
Track send my EURO back. Cose i sent to you more euro from energy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is the most stupid how i see in this server in 4 years. OMG, you joke here with our money. It.s your still to make ppl to donate for energy and after some time you down allz atributs? Great -armory max 240 one part and veapon 450 !!!!!! Need now 2-3 or 4 sets???????? OR NEED DONATE AGAIN FOR OTHER SET?????????????????
Quote from: itim on November 19, 2011, 10:17:50 AM
Track send my EURO back. Cose i sent to you more euro from energy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is the most stupid how i see in this server in 4 years. OMG, you joke here with our money. It.s your still to make ppl to donate for energy and after some time you down allz atributs? Great -armory max 240 one part and veapon 450 !!!!!! Need now 2-3 or 4 sets???????? OR NEED DONATE AGAIN FOR OTHER SET?????????????????
Just go to mom/dad and QQ for more euro for sets ;]
Quote from: Gonzal on November 17, 2011, 02:55:45 PM
Ps: open video event :)
+1yea open the video event again :)
Explain pls . You aply this downgrade to allz in same mode? Like in comunist state - allz be need same !!!. I have allz 5 parts 600+ atributs. Now is 240 allz. Ppl how have 240 last week now have 240 !!!!. It.s correct??? For fix armory - one part 240 to 600 need min. 500 energy. But no agree to be same with someone how have only 240 and now have again 240. Aply one formula : 600 : 240 = 2,5.
So 240 : 2,5 = 96 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You must aply this formula for allz if want make correct downgrade for atributs. No make comunism in server !
True cose allz how no have money for donate or d,ont want donate, or d.ont want pro items , now this ppl is happy and laught , like this how reply my first post here ! " Go to mamy and....... " Noob maybe my mamy is dead. Think that ! Track shame on you for this mistake in your server ! you aply new rules and d.ont ask ppl how play here about this ! Is you server but this server is good cose many donate for items and in this mode you have money for make best private server, but now you hit in yours donators, and your hit is strong, very strong. Maybe you will stay in server only with this ppl how laught or say " Go to mamy and ask for other money to donate " .
I hope to do this downgrade correctly - with one formula, or try return coins to ppl how have sets up to 240 !
Quote from: itim on November 19, 2011, 11:07:24 AM
Explain pls . You aply this downgrade to allz in same mode? Like in comunist state - allz be need same !!!. I have allz 5 parts 600+ atributs. Now is 240 allz. Ppl how have 240 last week now have 240 !!!!. It.s correct??? For fix armory - one part 240 to 600 need min. 500 energy. But no agree to be same with someone how have only 240 and now have again 240. Aply one formula : 600 : 240 = 2,5.
So 240 : 2,5 = 96 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You must aply this formula for allz if want make correct downgrade for atributs. No make comunism in server !
True cose allz how no have money for donate or d,ont want donate, or d.ont want pro items , now this ppl is happy and laught , like this how reply my first post here ! " Go to mamy and....... " Noob maybe my mamy is dead. Think that ! Track shame on you for this mistake in your server ! you aply new rules and d.ont ask ppl how play here about this ! Is you server but this server is good cose many donate for items and in this mode you have money for make best private server, but now you hit in yours donators, and your hit is strong, very strong. Maybe you will stay in server only with this ppl how laught or say " Go to mamy and ask for other money to donate " .
I hope to do this downgrade correctly - with one formula, or try return coins to ppl how have sets up to 240 !
chill out man
1st ... u donated for helping server , u didn't bought anything ... staff gave u some coins to thank u for your contribution to server health
2nd ... u play l2 for the joy of farming / pvp-ing / chatting / etc ( at least u shoud play l2 for this reasons ) ... so ppl that lost 5 months of energy farming didn't lost a shiit ... u all have those 5 months of farming fun
3rd ... it's a foking private server , they can apply any rules without asking ... u play for free so they can leave us all naked or can close server or do whatever they want ... u don't loose a shiit ... u still have all those 5-6-7 years of l2 dnet fun
and i stick to my opinion ... donating for receving coins is a way of cheating , but the server must survive so it's a kind of needed cheat
Quote from: itim on November 19, 2011, 11:07:24 AM
Explain pls . You aply this downgrade to allz in same mode? Like in comunist state - allz be need same !!!. I have allz 5 parts 600+ atributs. Now is 240 allz. Ppl how have 240 last week now have 240 !!!!. It.s correct??? For fix armory - one part 240 to 600 need min. 500 energy. But no agree to be same with someone how have only 240 and now have again 240. Aply one formula : 600 : 240 = 2,5.
So 240 : 2,5 = 96 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You must aply this formula for allz if want make correct downgrade for atributs. No make comunism in server !
True cose allz how no have money for donate or d,ont want donate, or d.ont want pro items , now this ppl is happy and laught , like this how reply my first post here ! " Go to mamy and....... " Noob maybe my mamy is dead. Think that ! Track shame on you for this mistake in your server ! you aply new rules and d.ont ask ppl how play here about this ! Is you server but this server is good cose many donate for items and in this mode you have money for make best private server, but now you hit in yours donators, and your hit is strong, very strong. Maybe you will stay in server only with this ppl how laught or say " Go to mamy and ask for other money to donate " .
I hope to do this downgrade correctly - with one formula, or try return coins to ppl how have sets up to 240 !
Next time, instead of donating for pixels, use money to improve your english xD
Cerebelo and flamingawe one question ! How atributs have in armory???? maybe 180 and i understand this ! About my english : if you flamingawe understand my post i think my english no too bad , and here disscussion is for this atributs not for bad or good english.
Btw Cerebelo - if you will make one private server , will make for have fun other ppl??? You will pay money -your money- for maintenance this sever, for upgrade your game , etc,etc,etc. You will make this with your money, and a lot of ppl will join happy in your server ???? Or you will need a lot of donators for make money????
It's easy to talk when you have nothing to lose !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: itim on November 19, 2011, 11:40:29 AM
Cerebelo and flamingawe one question ! How atributs have in armory???? maybe 180 and i understand this !
u still didn't get it bro
what attribute u think a non donator , a non walker user , and a non epic rb farmer can get in armor ?
pls answer me first then i will tell my armor attr
Quote from: cerebelo on November 19, 2011, 11:51:23 AM
u still didn't get it bro
what attribute u think a non donator , a non walker user , and a non epic rb farmer can get in armor ?
pls answer me first then i will tell my armor attr
So i say : It's easy to talk when you have nothing to lose !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! =)) :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Quote from: cerebelo on November 19, 2011, 11:51:23 AM
u still didn't get it bro
what attribute u think a non donator , a non walker user , and a non epic rb farmer can get in armor ?
pls answer me first then i will tell my armor attr
600 in 4 parts... :)
So much rage, anyway when u donate u arent buying stuff, u are providing means to support the server.
Also what many dislike some others like. I know for a fact that some players are comin back because of this "nerf", because now they have another shot at having a functional character vs the big boys. It may not be 100% good, but its the GMs decision, and we gotta comply. In many other servers GMs wouldnt even discuss this with us.
Quote from: itim on November 19, 2011, 11:54:23 AM
So i say : It's easy to talk when you have nothing to lose !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! =)) :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
i think i just talked to the hand
ok i start cry ... gm give me 30kkk adena cause the price of my 2000 d grade enchants ( few months low rb farming) dropped from 15kk each to zero after fantasy island update :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Quote from: cerebelo on November 19, 2011, 11:51:23 AM
u still didn't get it bro
what attribute u think a non donator , a non walker user , and a non epic rb farmer can get in armor ?
pls answer me first then i will tell my armor attr
dude im not from these categories which u wrote here and i had 450+ attr in each part. so if u lazy and not able do anything better stfu.
Quote from: Shadow21 on November 19, 2011, 12:23:58 PM
dude im not from these categories which u wrote here and i had 450+ attr in each part. so if u lazy and not able do anything better stfu.
oups sorry ... i will edit
non donator , non walker user , non epic rb farmer ,
rl possesor
senseless talk with moron like u. such attr was able get every1 who prefer do smth not only stay on stairs and cry: oO they overpowered, donators, farmers, nolifers.
can we start atribute weapon to 540, i mean it is something sure?
Quote from: flamingAwe on November 19, 2011, 11:29:50 AM
Next time, instead of donating for pixels, use money to improve your english xD
Ppl like him are the reason u can play for free with these pixels asshole. Cause if it wasnt donators supporting servers like this they wouldnt exist.
Quote from: cerebelo on November 19, 2011, 11:24:12 AM
chill out man
1st ... u donated for helping server , u didn't bought anything ... staff gave u some coins to thank u for your contribution to server health
2nd ... u play l2 for the joy of farming / pvp-ing / chatting / etc ( at least u shoud play l2 for this reasons ) ... so ppl that lost 5 months of energy farming didn't lost a shiit ... u all have those 5 months of farming fun
3rd ... it's a foking private server , they can apply any rules without asking ... u play for free so they can leave us all naked or can close server or do whatever they want ... u don't loose a shiit ... u still have all those 5-6-7 years of l2 dnet fun
Actuallu ur wrong. He is paying so U can play for free. And all he asks is his money to worth smth . Sounds reasonable to me. U know how much gracia files cost ? We got gracia tnx to players like him. But u didnt thought of it did u ?
Quote from: itim on November 19, 2011, 11:40:29 AM
Cerebelo and flamingawe one question ! How atributs have in armory???? maybe 180 and i understand this ! About my english : if you flamingawe understand my post i think my english no too bad , and here disscussion is for this atributs not for bad or good english.
Btw Cerebelo - if you will make one private server , will make for have fun other ppl??? You will pay money -your money- for maintenance this sever, for upgrade your game , etc,etc,etc. You will make this with your money, and a lot of ppl will join happy in your server ???? Or you will need a lot of donators for make money????
It's easy to talk when you have nothing to lose !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How many $ you donated? - I will laugh accordingly to amount of cash spend by you. BTW ppl that dont know english should play "saper" not MMORPG games.
Quote from: lucifsg on November 19, 2011, 06:30:42 PM
Ppl like him are the reason u can play for free with these pixels asshole. Cause if it wasnt donators supporting servers like this they wouldnt exist.
yes, sure, thanx to those idiots, who pay for pixels all play here xD
but if retards like you don't understand, i refrase, for the same money he could get much more usefull service. Usefull for imself, and those, who must read his google-translated crap.
Quote from: tomogara on November 19, 2011, 11:18:34 PM
How many $ you donated? - I will laugh accordingly to amount of cash spend by you. BTW ppl that dont know english should play "saper" not MMORPG games.
Tomogara your IQ is with minus ? Have you ever seen a bill of 500 eu , in real not in photo? Do what I want with my money ! No need ask you or tell you about this ! Think you're smarter because you know english and can play MMORPG ???? LOL ! Try make money with your best english and can laugh when your poket will be full of money ! Who will stop playing free in DN server ? Who will stop donate in DN server? Everyone can choose . I have not written for you my first or second post. LOL . I write for Track , not for you or others.
" Track About NEW ATTR On SETs" or with your best english you read : Tomogora About NEW ATTR On SETs???? :D :D :D :D