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Title: Dagger subclass
Post by: Qwerty1 on August 14, 2012, 10:01:57 PM
Hi
I want back to play on dn and have some questions:                                                                                             
I want to make dagger but I do not know what it is now good
I'm interested WK/TH. Its good subclass now? what about this combination? what armor for him(heavy/light vesper)?
How else do you recommend dagger sub or other fighter subclass?

I need any opinion ty and gl
Title: Re: Dagger subclass
Post by: +GekKey+ on December 16, 2012, 05:04:08 PM
for sure heavy is a winner on th/wk
Title: Re: Dagger subclass
Post by: Di on December 16, 2012, 05:20:28 PM
consider pp/Th also, it will be nice on high five
Title: Re: Dagger subclass
Post by: 6bIK on December 16, 2012, 08:15:17 PM
any class is good, if u know how to play...

p.s. yes, th/wk is rly funny class.
Title: Re: Dagger subclass
Post by: JTKnight on December 16, 2012, 08:25:41 PM
I play a th/da and really enjoy it. With decent equipment it's a solid char. Not the most powerful but not a pushover either. 
Good luck and have fun
Jim
Title: Re: Dagger subclass
Post by: mrialinda on December 17, 2012, 12:37:12 AM
i suggest u to w8 how sets etc will be them u can decide what use heavy or light

th/wk if u know play it is very good char , specially with bow xD and dual daggers

but on h5 i think u will need a tank if u want play th/xx
Title: Re: Dagger subclass
Post by: +GekKey+ on December 17, 2012, 03:02:43 AM
imo th/wk is now average. Everyone can kill their cats in 1/2 shots, and ppl now understand that they need to kill the summon 1st... so one of the big benefit of th/wk is gone. Same in PvE, mobs have more and more strong aoe skills and you are constantly re summoning... Unless you make it follow a healer wich can stay far from mobs all the time.

In my opinion, make a th/tank or th/pp if you are more the solo type person.
Title: Re: Dagger subclass
Post by: Blizzer on December 17, 2012, 10:42:19 AM
Considering we are moving to H5 post above is kind of invalid. Summons are way better in that chronicle than in the one we had so far. Finally they got some better stats and interesting sharing skills from master. Also daggers themselves seem to be a bit better but for sure you'll need dual daggers for this class. I don't say that th/wk or th/pp will be at the same level as th/pal or th/da, yet they'll be way more playable than before.
Title: Re: Dagger subclass
Post by: Alex on December 17, 2012, 01:57:35 PM
just play the same class as blizzer and you will own
Title: Re: Dagger subclass
Post by: JTKnight on December 17, 2012, 03:43:29 PM
Quote from: Alex on December 17, 2012, 01:57:35 PM
just play the same class as blizzer and you will own
Although I don't know you or Blizzer personally, I have seen both of you play your char's and I can tell that your successes are NOT just the char. You both know how to play your char's well. Those of us who don't have the same level of skill won't do as well. :)
Jim
Title: Re: Dagger subclass
Post by: Alex on December 17, 2012, 06:45:28 PM
Quote from: JTKnight on December 17, 2012, 03:43:29 PM
Although I don't know you or Blizzer personally, I have seen both of you play your char's and I can tell that your successes are NOT just the char. You both know how to play your char's well. Those of us who don't have the same level of skill won't do as well. :)
Jim

its very nice of you to say this! thanks!
Title: Re: Dagger subclass
Post by: +GekKey+ on December 20, 2012, 11:07:17 PM
Quote from: Blizzer on December 17, 2012, 10:42:19 AM
Considering we are moving to H5 post above is kind of invalid. Summons are way better in that chronicle than in the one we had so far. Finally they got some better stats and interesting sharing skills from master. Also daggers themselves seem to be a bit better but for sure you'll need dual daggers for this class. I don't say that th/wk or th/pp will be at the same level as th/pal or th/da, yet they'll be way more playable than before.

Yes, th/wk will be more playable, but it wont be the great char it used to be...
As for the skill, Servitor Share wont do much in mass pvp... mostlikely th/wk are asked to used the queen cat, wich has terrible fighting abilities, and I think even the best summons in mass pvp will still be too easy to kill vs what it can kill.
The boost from 15% to 35% on excessive loyalty is cool, but once again, its the summon that benefit that.
Spirit sharing gives something interesting...  P. Atk./M. Atk. +5%, skill P. Atk. +10%, Atk. Spd. by +7%, Casting Spd. +5%, and Critical Rate +10%.
Title: Re: Dagger subclass
Post by: thehunted on December 21, 2012, 12:43:41 PM
Quote from: Alex on December 17, 2012, 06:45:28 PM
its very nice of you to say this! thanks!

Ah good character does help though ;).
Title: Re: Dagger subclass
Post by: Mr. Hide on December 22, 2012, 12:18:43 AM
I have just a question (maybe a noob-question for some1) but I know that all summoner share theyr elemental attack (Im talking about element on weapon) with his servitor, 80% will be applied to the summon and 20% on the master....
Is the same if you play th/wk in dagger mode or just if you switch in summoner mode?
Isnt so important for me (I play a nuuba th/pal) but I have in mind to re-equipe an old char with summoner's sub... (consider that we moving to H5 so all old DNET-fix will be removed)
Title: Re: Dagger subclass
Post by: BiGCaT on December 22, 2012, 01:03:31 PM
Quote from: Blizzer on December 17, 2012, 10:42:19 AM
Considering we are moving to H5 post above is kind of invalid. Summons are way better in that chronicle than in the one we had so far. Finally they got some better stats and interesting sharing skills from master. Also daggers themselves seem to be a bit better but for sure you'll need dual daggers for this class. I don't say that th/wk or th/pp will be at the same level as th/pal or th/da, yet they'll be way more playable than before.
Maybe now i ll can kill you at Ol coz sometime was rly closed  :)
Title: Re: Dagger subclass
Post by: BiGCaT on December 22, 2012, 01:06:16 PM
Quote from: mrialinda on December 17, 2012, 12:37:12 AM
i suggest u to w8 how sets etc will be them u can decide what use heavy or light

th/wk if u know play it is very good char , specially with bow xD and dual daggers

but on h5 i think u will need a tank if u want play th/xx
::)
Title: Re: Dagger subclass
Post by: Alex on December 22, 2012, 01:44:34 PM
Quote from: BiGCaT on December 22, 2012, 01:03:31 PM
Maybe now i ll can kill you at Ol coz sometime was rly closed  :)

u would need to beg drake to give you some advantage over players first
Title: Re: Dagger subclass
Post by: Blizzer on December 22, 2012, 02:48:19 PM
Quote from: Mr. Hide on December 22, 2012, 12:18:43 AM
I have just a question (maybe a noob-question for some1) but I know that all summoner share theyr elemental attack (Im talking about element on weapon) with his servitor, 80% will be applied to the summon and 20% on the master....
Is the same if you play th/wk in dagger mode or just if you switch in summoner mode?
Isnt so important for me (I play a nuuba th/pal) but I have in mind to re-equipe an old char with summoner's sub... (consider that we moving to H5 so all old DNET-fix will be removed)
They share attr when you are on summoner stats.
Quote from: BiGCaT on December 22, 2012, 01:03:31 PM
Maybe now i ll can kill you at Ol coz sometime was rly closed  :)
Well my DA gets some useful things too  ;D