There will be open beta server before start ?
Exp X? sp x? adena x?
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Dynamic Experience system
*Even your first question will be , "Hey what are the rates"? There is no usual fixed number of exp.We all know that leveling up fast is a good thing, yes, but doing everything so fast have many negative sides and you know what im talking about.So we came up with an idea , why don't we make things easier in the beginning and make end game to be more dramatic and harder. This is what our dynamic exp system brings!You will start game at HIGH rate but closer to final level it will end up to x1.
Hello Track, nice to see all that, one question come to me directly..
We will be possible to merge coins of Dragon into Tarantula server for going to this server with what we donated before ?
Is a remerciement for old people who support you during all this time :)
Btw, hello all... !
Enjoy new server !
Official song : Tito & Tarantula : After (reaven)Dark xD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cG0qv9s0VNo
Quote from: v23 on December 26, 2013, 05:20:18 AM
There will be open beta server before start ?
Hello,
No, it will be open live directly.
Thank you
Quote from: eryxsuarez on December 26, 2013, 05:35:25 AM
Exp X? sp x? adena x?
Everything is pdogressive (dynamic) as explained in the text, if you have readed.
Quote from: Blanches on December 26, 2013, 06:20:51 AM
Hello Track, nice to see all that, one question come to me directly..
We will be possible to merge coins of Dragon into Tarantula server for going to this server with what we donated before ?
Is a remerciement for old people who support you during all this time :)
Btw, hello all... !
Enjoy new server !
Hello, thank you for the support, but as on every new server merge of coins or transfer with the new concept is impossible. Reasons are many.
Thank you
Well idea is really good, i hope many ppl will join and play,
GJ
Quote from: Zaled on December 26, 2013, 09:28:18 AM
Well idea is really good, i hope many ppl will join and play,
GJ
ye we just need good promotion of server, the most important part atm!
Quote from: v23 on December 26, 2013, 09:35:37 AM
ye we just need good promotion of server, the most important part atm!
Personally, in all do respect, i prefer we start server 1st then promote it. I think mass email, social networks and good word of you players to your friends is enough for now.
And speaking quite frankly , we cant beat the vote-bots all top voting sites have. Simply we cant. But what we can offer in future is the chest event we had on dragon earlier (*example: vote and if we move from X position to Y whole server benefits from it), i think this concept is better approach in the world of bots.
First of all, i'm sorry in advance for what i'll say, but is my opinion.
I think, that you can't care of x15... and you open new server.
2nd, you updated DN from the best clients into the worst.. freaked DN at all.. now u open new srv and making x15 MORE dead.. Well, GL with the new srv.
I guess there will be not much ppl's from x15 that will join this srv.. no1 would like to start new srv from zero.. or atleast me.
Quote from: Thry on December 26, 2013, 09:57:39 AM
First of all, i'm sorry in advance for what i'll say, but is my opinion.
I think, that you can't care of x15... and you open new server.
2nd, you updated DN from the best clients into the worst.. freaked DN at all.. now u open new srv and making x15 MORE dead.. Well, GL with the new srv.
I guess there will be not much ppl's from x15 that will join this srv.. no1 would like to start new srv from zero.. or atleast me.
Dragon-Network was always multi-server network, i absolutely see no reasons not to continue to be so. Speaking personally, for me old chronicles is real lineage feeling, but then again there are many people who prefer new ones. Me and my team opened the one we think we can maintain best, that we can custom as much as we want (not damaging the gameplay of course) and that we can provide enough support with the knowledge we have about it. I am not counting at all Dragon's players, i am looking forward ex DN and new DN players, and also many others who are searching good new IL server around. Thats all.
Thank you for the good words, and your opinion is always welcome as long as it is normal.
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on December 26, 2013, 10:07:52 AM
Dragon-Network was always multi-server network, i absolutely see no reasons not to continue to be so. Speaking personally, for me old chronicles is real lineage feeling, but then again there are many people who prefer new ones. Me and my team opened the one we think we can maintain best, that we can custom as much as we want (not damaging the gameplay of course) and that we can provide enough support with the knowledge we have about it. I am not counting at all Dragon's players, i am looking forward ex DN and new DN players, and also many others who are searching good new IL server around. Thats all.
Thank you for the good words, and your opinion is always welcome as long as it is normal.
I know.. But i dont really have time to start new server.. I like dragon, even as it is now.. Just curious, who will be the GM's in x15 now? guess u should recruit some new STAFF and remove some old one.. STAFF That wont play as player and help his clan.
Quote from: Thry on December 26, 2013, 10:16:29 AM
I know.. But i dont really have time to start new server.. I like dragon, even as it is now.. Just curious, who will be the GM's in x15 now? guess u should recruit some new STAFF and remove some old one.. STAFF That wont play as player and help his clan.
Well i am still there, but im not the one who recruit there. And please avoid using this topic about things not related to Tarantula.
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on December 26, 2013, 10:20:46 AM
Well i am still there, but im not the one who recruit there. And please avoid using this topic about things not related to Tarantula.
Ok, i'm sorry. This is the last post in this section.
Why on earth you've chosen the most shitty chronicle ever ;D Our previous IL was simple one big mess, edited files, 100% m crit rate and nerfed daggers. I visited that phoenix svr forum, they opened 2 months ago? And are loosing almost everyone. C4 would be better choice, anyway gl with that. Some of the ideas from this svr could be used on x15, hope you won't abandon it completely.
PS. new forum is too flashy, at least for me xD
Quote from: Blizzer on December 26, 2013, 10:35:40 AM
Why on earth you've chosen the most shitty chronicle ever ;D Our previous IL was simple one big mess, edited files, 100% m crit rate and nerfed daggers. I visited that phoenix svr forum, they opened 2 months ago? And are loosing almost everyone. C4 would be better choice, anyway gl with that. Some of the ideas from this svr could be used on x15, hope you won't abandon it completely.
PS. new forum is too flashy, at least for me xD
Files you have played some years ago and current ones are much different. Il chronicle is everything but bad as you said. About mentioned server they cant be even compared to us, by any meaning.
Thank you for the good words Bliz.
Quote from: Blizzer on December 26, 2013, 10:35:40 AM
Why on earth you've chosen the most shitty chronicle ever ;D Our previous IL was simple one big mess, edited files, 100% m crit rate and nerfed daggers. I visited that phoenix svr forum, they opened 2 months ago? And are loosing almost everyone. C4 would be better choice, anyway gl with that. Some of the ideas from this svr could be used on x15, hope you won't abandon it completely.
PS. new forum is too flashy, at least for me xD
Interlude as chronicle is fine, phoenix died cuz of some stupid decision made by gms. With knowlage and example from phenix it can be easy avoid them here.
Quote from: v23 on December 26, 2013, 10:57:24 AM
Interlude as chronicle is fine, phoenix died cuz of some stupid decision made by gms. With knowlage and example from phenix it can be easy avoid them here.
Dragon Always respected their competition, actually competition is what makes you work harder. However this is our server , please focus only about things related to this server , it is only thing that matters. What others have/had isnt really our business and im not willing to give any free marketing to any of them, because they never did anything good for us neither.
woohooo cool :D
ps i think this is best day of buffcat's life
When can we expect server start? If there is no specified date yet then is it few weeks or rather months?
Quote from: TytanowyJanusz on December 26, 2013, 11:13:06 AM
When can we expect server start? If there is no specified date yet then is it few weeks or rather months?
Did you bother to read texts we wrote on 3 languages?
QuoteNo dwarf mutants allowed , they are nice yes, but horrible to balance.
You mean no retail-subs at all? Dwarf mutants were those with 85 lvl and FS but IL max lvl was 80.
Quote from: Blizzer on December 26, 2013, 11:23:42 AM
You mean no retail-subs at all? Dwarf mutants were those with 85 lvl and FS but IL max lvl was 80.
Those where you could be as dwarf-skin , but anything inside. Thats not allowed.
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on December 26, 2013, 11:24:47 AM
Those where you could be as dwarf-skin , but anything inside. Thats not allowed.
Dwarfs-mutants become here only in HB bcs of 85 lvl and FS's. In IT times was possible to sub your retail only on classes from main ( human can take retail whatever he want for example but can make sub on retail only with human classes) Will you keep this system?
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on December 26, 2013, 11:24:47 AM
Those where you could be as dwarf-skin , but anything inside. Thats not allowed.
Can i ask why allegro coins seller was choosen as GM on this server? I can bet his knowledge about the game is even less than our dragon GM Glasy. Even though he may be trustworthy since ur working with him but on such a server is need more of wiki-type of GM instead some random.
Quote from: Peorexo on December 26, 2013, 11:33:49 AM
Can i ask why allegro coins seller was choosen as GM on this server? I can bet his knowledge about the game is even less than our dragon GM Glasy. Even though he may be trustworthy since ur working with him but on such a server is need more of wiki-type of GM instead some random.
And where you saw that?
This topic isnt about personal questions nor to became spam section, therefor if you have any further question please be so kind and send me a PM.
Thank you
Quote from: DiZon on December 26, 2013, 11:31:11 AM
Dwarfs-mutants become here only in HB bcs of 85 lvl and FS's. In IT times was possible to sub your retail only on classes from main ( human can take retail whatever he want for example but can make sub on retail only with human classes) Will you keep this system?
trying to keep players at one char is one of best things (from point of action) , even to make able sub retails (w/o mutants) i would add more ratails, instead of 3 mby 5-8 dunno, everything to make it more plesure to play
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on December 26, 2013, 11:36:59 AM
And where you saw that?
This topic isnt about personal questions nor to became spam section, therefor if you have any further question please be so kind and send me a PM.
Thank you
I appreciate the idea of making new server and i will definitely try that out so dont worry, and ur not answering pm's so we dont rly know if ur reading them or not ^^
I just want to know before server start how badly u will nerf chars at the beggining, let me now if i can roll dagger with ease or u will nerf sh1t out like did glasy in dragon many times (even if he didnt do it alone, he had to cry cuz random focus death nerfs which made it weaker than focus power was pissing me off) I have many chars on which i feel comfortable with and i dont want to get all of them nerfed one by one once i finish chars...
Just please look and our experienced pvp/oly players on Dragon atm... lucifsg, blizzer, voo, they are just few with who i can freely talk about anything connected to L2 and they are like never care of anything connected with 90% random ppl crying about nerf becouse they can handle that with ease.
Im saying this server should be more about community talk about gameplay changes
Damn, i just got horny.
Quote from: Peorexo on December 26, 2013, 11:53:45 AM
I appreciate the idea of making new server and i will definitely try that out so dont worry, and ur not answering pm's so we dont rly know if ur reading them or not ^^
I just want to know before server start how badly u will nerf chars at the beggining, let me now if i can roll dagger with ease or u will nerf sh1t out like did glasy in dragon many times (even if he didnt do it alone, he had to cry cuz random focus death nerfs which made it weaker than focus power was pissing me off) I have many chars on which i feel comfortable with and i dont want to get all of them nerfed one by one once i finish chars...
Just please look and our experienced pvp/oly players on Dragon atm... lucifsg, blizzer, voo, they are just few with who i can freely talk about anything connected to L2 and they are like never care of anything connected with 90% random ppl crying about nerf becouse they can handle that with ease.
Im saying this server should be more about community talk about gameplay changes
I answer every single PM most of time (unless i miss someone because of the volume of the messages), try and ask me. Since this morning i replied on 47 of them so far.
About "nerfing" effect, please read the text we wrote , theres even on polish. I cant answer you right now what chars and classes are OP , because i need players to play it correctly 1st, after that we can discuss (if) there is something to be changed. And please dont make this discussion into the nerf subject whatsoever. Please send me PM about anything you want to know and ill be glad to answer you, and if is of global interest ill paste it here.
Thanks
dualbox will be allowed?
Quote from: nith on December 26, 2013, 12:28:14 PM
dualbox will be allowed?
Dualbox yes. As i said detailed in game rules will be announced prior server's opening.
1. Will x15 stay without updates , and Glasyalabolas as the only GM with full power?
2. Will there be a similar expasion pack/part of updates for x15 comming aswell?
2. All the Wiki system/Drop/Spoil/Site info, automatic nick change/cl change/autoevents will be fully working implemented or just partly/outdated like at x15?
3. When will first siges/oly be setted up ( when it goes live or some time later)?
4. All RB's resparn will be same as off setted or some will be custom?
Quote from: felo41 on December 26, 2013, 12:42:33 PM
1. Will x15 stay without updates , and Glasyalabolas as the only GM with full power?
2. Will there be a similar expasion pack/part of updates for x15 comming aswell?
2. All the Wiki system/Drop/Spoil/Site info, automatic nick change/cl change/autoevents will be fully working implemented or just partly/outdated like at x15?
3. When will first siges/oly be setted up ( when it goes live or some time later)?
4. All RB's resparn will be same as off setted or some will be custom?
1. x15 Stays on its own updates schedule.
2. What you mean?
3. I dont get this question neither?!
4. I guess Oly will start next month (so Feb, because it has to be 1st of the month), Sieges time (still heavent decided time, we will discuss about it)
5. All rbs have off setup spawn (except few bosses i mentioned earlier [shorter respawn time])
http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,278370.0.html
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on December 26, 2013, 12:52:53 PM
1. x15 Stays on its own updates schedule.
2. What you mean?
3. I dont get this question neither?!
4. I guess Oly will start next month (so Feb, because it has to be 1st of the month), Sieges time (still heavent decided time, we will discuss about it)
5. All rbs have off setup spawn (except few bosses i mentioned earlier [shorter respawn time])
http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,278370.0.html
What about controversial skills from wl and glad which boost your sub (like duelist spirit with bow or dagger) ?
Off rb respawn, especially epics, is one of main things that killed phoenix as i heard. Don't forget that this game is quite old, same as many ppl playing it, most of our community don't have time to camp epics for 15h per day, like it was back when we had interlude.
Quote from: Nickelback on December 26, 2013, 01:05:43 PM
Off rb respawn, especially epics, is one of main things that killed phoenix as i heard. Don't forget that this game is quite old, same as many ppl playing it, most of our community don't have time to camp epics for 15h per day, like it was back when we had interlude.
I dont see where is the problem camping EPIC raids? They are Epic in the end... what we can do is make random spawn shorter which imo its correct. Also faster respawn absolutely is for important quest raids.
what about 1st/2nd proff's, will be salable at shop?
i wish you luck guys.
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on December 26, 2013, 01:07:24 PM
I dont see where is the problem camping EPIC raids? They are Epic in the end... what we can do is make random spawn shorter which imo its correct. Also faster respawn absolutely is for important quest raids.
camping of all rb is part of game!!! so...
It's about camping rb's for retail and then barakiel for noble. It could be fun years ago but after week became a bother.
Dragon accounts will work since it's the same network ya?
Quote from: Blizzer on December 26, 2013, 01:58:53 PM
It's about camping rb's for retail and then barakiel for noble. It could be fun years ago but after week became a bother.
Dragon accounts will work since it's the same network ya?
I agree on the retail camping is boring , and Barakiel.
About accounts absolutely yes.
Quote from: Kaelthas on December 26, 2013, 01:48:39 PM
camping of all rb is part of game!!! so...
Make 50dc / item and u will see how gladly will "players" camp the bosess for 15h :)
no pain, no gain
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on December 26, 2013, 01:07:24 PM
I dont see where is the problem camping EPIC raids? They are Epic in the end... what we can do is make random spawn shorter which imo its correct. Also faster respawn absolutely is for important quest raids.
That's exactly what was going to happen in Phoenix, GMs were going to shorter Epics Random time, that was a good idea but they never did it and GMs became inactive, that's what killed Phoenix but I guess that ain't happening with Dragon since GMs are very active and Dragon is on since 10 years or more.
I won't lie I'm really excited about this server and wish you the best of lucks :).
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on December 26, 2013, 01:07:24 PMwe can do is make random spawn shorter which imo its correct. Also faster respawn absolutely is for important quest raids.
That's what i meant. You could consider making those rb's for noble off-like, it means as quest monsters spawning very quickly or keep as rb but still spawn greatly increased(same goes with getting shards/lunargents). I haven't played on phoenix, i read - from time to time - their forum and at some point there was no pvp bcs ppl without noblesse didn't want to fight against those with it - and that's totally understandable.
Quote from: KheopsDZ on December 26, 2013, 02:09:06 PM
That's exactly what was going to happen in Phoenix, GMs were going to shorter Epics Random time, that was a good idea but they never did it and GMs became inactive, that's what killed Phoenix but I guess that ain't happening with Dragon since GMs are very active and Dragon is on since 10 years or more.
I won't lie I'm really excited about this server and wish you the best of lucks :).
real gm's here is track and glasy rest a poor ghost since 10 year, i think will happen same with this new gm's, some of them are player's form CB clan
Quote from: HugeTits on December 26, 2013, 02:13:14 PM
real gm's here is track and glasy rest a poor ghost since 10 year, i think will happen same with this new gm's, some of them are player's form CB clan
You are totally wrong, they are fully active GM-s, and they have major role in this project. 1 of the GMs is EX players yes of Y clan. But he is skilled enough to help me on things we need and to assist players. In the end all of us were the players long ago.
Quote from: HugeTits on December 26, 2013, 02:13:14 PM
real gm's here is track and glasy rest a poor ghost since 10 year, i think will happen same with this new gm's, some of them are player's form CB clan
Pls keep the hate on 15x , there it belongs . Dont talk about "jokelike" people in comparing to real GM`s . Just leave the hate behind and leave the REASON for hate behind :) Thank you HugeTits and have good day <- i mean it . peez
Hi!
Its really nice u make a new server, imo will be nice to farm and fight for the drops again like was years ago :)
About noblesse and 3rd class, will be like it was?
And about getting the sub, do we will have a good golkondas respwn?
Will it be possible to add DN subclass on each of retail subclasses?
That would be awesome since all of the retail subs would be important, and ppl would work on their chars to be suitable in any kind of situation just by changing sub. (Tho I think I saw Astral npc on some of the pictures in main topic and that npc brought us this kind of subclass system)
i think will be good to make quests x 3 or random from 1 to 5 to be more eazy people to farm shards for sub and noobles and if you want make barakiel to need to be hitted no need to be in last hit party for quest item . i playng before o 1 server there only need to w8 someone to start barakiel and you need to hit him and must be alive when he died to can take quest item .if you want make all people to take quest items in party not 1 (i mean varka quest and 700 mobs ) and if you can make sub class quest with 30 anglels like h5 :) to dont camp baium all night :)
Quote from: Gonzal on December 26, 2013, 02:24:51 PM
Hi!
Its really nice u make a new server, imo will be nice to farm and fight for the drops again like was years ago :)
About noblesse and 3rd class, will be like it was?
And about getting the sub, do we will have a good golkondas respwn?
Hello,
Noblesse and 3rd class will be retail. 1st and 2nd class items will be in shop. Golkonda respawn is like on old c6.
Thank you
We will try make your life easier on camping, but remember getting everything super easy isnt the concept we will follow. If you want to earn something go outside and work for it, in the end we plan long life to this server, getting everything easy and within 10 days isnt proper path.
you can put 1 nps with full buff like pvp servers in coliseum with 5 6 min buff and cp/mp/hp restore to people can test their skils in coliseum
Quote from: djvancho on December 26, 2013, 02:52:28 PM
you can put 1 nps with full buff like pvp servers in coliseum with 5 6 min buff and cp/mp/hp restore to people can test their skils in coliseum
We try keep coliseum retail. It wont be any buffers npc in game or other.
Hi all, im very concerned about x15 dragon, i spend a lot of money on that server and from my point of view... u will let it die...no nice event, no fixes, no updates, just empty promises...and now with new server.... i think u really want to kill x15... sad
We had just 1 server and GM cant handle... can u imagine what will hapen with both? Dragon will fall into the hands of evil...(if u know waht i mean)...
Like some ppl says, we are many ppl who doesnt have all time to start over and over again...the old times has pased for many of us, now we have family, wife, job etc...i played since interlude... and i dont remember it as the best...
I quess that the only few things that we needed from x15 was some of the rly good ideas that u have for this new tarantula... but as i said before... u are just letting die our loved Dragon x15
i wish luck to all who go to Tarantula...
PD Yes is a QQ TOPIC, JUST I DONT UNDERSTAND HOW GM PREFER OPEN NEW SERVER THAN FIX AND IMPROVE ONE WICH IS ONLINE SINCE MANY YEARS!! I DONT GET IT
RIP DRAGON QQ
Quote from: carniburuz on December 26, 2013, 03:12:12 PM
Hi all, im very concerned about x15 dragon, i spend a lot of money on that server and from my point of view... u will let it die...no nice event, no fixes, no updates, just empty promises...and now with new server.... i think u really want to kill x15... sad
We had just 1 server and GM cant handle... can u imagine what will hapen with both? Dragon will fall into the hands of evil...(if u know waht i mean)...
Like some ppl says, we are many ppl who doesnt have all time to start over and over again...the old times has pased for many of us, now we have family, wife, job etc...i played since interlude... and i dont remember it as the best...
I quess that the only few things that we needed from x15 was some of the rly good ideas that u have for this new tarantula... but as i said before... u are just letting die our loved Dragon x15
i wish luck to all who go to Tarantula...
PD Yes is a QQ TOPIC, JUST I DONT UNDERSTAND HOW GM PREFER OPEN NEW SERVER THAN FIX AND IMPROVE ONE WICH IS ONLINE SINCE MANY YEARS!! I DONT GET IT
RIP DRAGON QQ
To make it simple and easy, Dragon is there and wont die.
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on December 26, 2013, 03:14:07 PM
To make it simple and easy, Dragon is there and wont die.
adn where fix pack, that u talked about 1-2 month, hide fix and rest of buged skills?
Quote from: HugeTits on December 26, 2013, 03:17:58 PM
adn where fix pack, that u talked about 1-2 month, hide fix and rest of buged skills?
on its way, as you can see we were a bit busy. Spamming wont speed up the process.
Quote from: carniburuz on December 26, 2013, 03:12:12 PM
Hi all, im very concerned about x15 dragon, i spend a lot of money on that server and from my point of view... u will let it die...no nice event, no fixes, no updates, just empty promises...and now with new server.... i think u really want to kill x15... sad
We had just 1 server and GM cant handle... can u imagine what will hapen with both? Dragon will fall into the hands of evil...(if u know waht i mean)...
Like some ppl says, we are many ppl who doesnt have all time to start over and over again...the old times has pased for many of us, now we have family, wife, job etc...i played since interlude... and i dont remember it as the best...
I quess that the only few things that we needed from x15 was some of the rly good ideas that u have for this new tarantula... but as i said before... u are just letting die our loved Dragon x15
i wish luck to all who go to Tarantula...
PD Yes is a QQ TOPIC, JUST I DONT UNDERSTAND HOW GM PREFER OPEN NEW SERVER THAN FIX AND IMPROVE ONE WICH IS ONLINE SINCE MANY YEARS!! I DONT GET IT
RIP DRAGON QQ
I understand your concern about Dragon x15, but just to let you know Dragon-Network is a network, and it had many servers at the same time in the past (infinity, dragon, nightmare, valkyrie, shadow, arena).
Active work on only 2 servers at one time ( Dragon x15, Tarantula ) doesnt seem to be a challenge. All we want is having two "alive" servers with active players, and its nothing to worry about because dragon x15 will have regular updates too.
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on December 26, 2013, 03:21:03 PM
on its way, as you can see we were a bit busy. Spamming wont speed up the process.
as i see u are busy with many other thing's but not with most important, sry track but i cant stay in silence ;)
Quote from: carniburuz on December 26, 2013, 03:12:12 PM
Hi all, im very concerned about x15 dragon, i spend a lot of money on that server and from my point of view... u will let it die...no nice event, no fixes, no updates, just empty promises...and now with new server.... i think u really want to kill x15... sad
We had just 1 server and GM cant handle... can u imagine what will hapen with both? Dragon will fall into the hands of evil...(if u know waht i mean)...
Like some ppl says, we are many ppl who doesnt have all time to start over and over again...the old times has pased for many of us, now we have family, wife, job etc...i played since interlude... and i dont remember it as the best...
I quess that the only few things that we needed from x15 was some of the rly good ideas that u have for this new tarantula... but as i said before... u are just letting die our loved Dragon x15
i wish luck to all who go to Tarantula...
PD Yes is a QQ TOPIC, JUST I DONT UNDERSTAND HOW GM PREFER OPEN NEW SERVER THAN FIX AND IMPROVE ONE WICH IS ONLINE SINCE MANY YEARS!! I DONT GET IT
RIP DRAGON QQ
I love forum , because i can say what i think about topic .
Dragon server is dead when people start leaving to "better option" . Corrupted GM is think which SOME OF US trying to fight for ages and all what we got from community was ".i." or "join DX" . So yes .. die dragon . If u raised your voice sooner , if you did atleast ONE STEP to help server be fair .. I dont know if u did thou , i am talkin about MAJORITY of 15x players (such am i as well) . And the money ? .. Well if "GM is corrupted" and yes, glasy is very deep corupted person with own hate list and own rules and own agenda at all , then there is nothing els u can do , but feeding the trolls.
I mean no disrespect to carniburuz , sir , i talkin straightly and "ban-fear-free" like i havent been for long time :) This server is giving you oportunity to play , have pvp , have clan without need of atri/op items/coins for skil enchant etcetcetcetcetc and in otherside it offers fun to more then 5% of richest oly farmers :) If this "oportunity" shuld be doom for 15x , if this server shuld mean end of Italian dark era , then my only regret is that it didnt came up sooner .
I dont regret all my time spend on dragon /c3+/ but if this will be the cause of 15x dying , then i have no problem throw all that time away , cuz i finaly see the promise of "fun and chill" again .. not being locked for months on one place , solo grind there , waiting for unfair bans or frozen time on sieges during DX engraving :)
Donate more to keep server alive (if you agree with the RULER there) , or just stop being sheep and move . Am losing with it many acounts, many subs, many many many years of playing , but if u see tear , then is bcos of hapines :)
Maybe this is the other side of "coin" which u need to see to feel beter :) Cheers
Quote from: HugeTits on December 26, 2013, 03:22:35 PM
as i see u are busy with many other thing's but not with most important, sry track but i cant stay in silence ;)
You will.
Quote from: ^Artur^ on December 26, 2013, 03:22:09 PM
I understand your concern about Dragon x15, but just to let you know Dragon-Network is a network, and it had many servers at the same time in the past (infinity, dragon, nightmare, valkyrie, shadow, arena).
Active work on only 2 servers at one time ( Dragon x15, Tarantula ) doesnt seem to be a challenge. All we want is having two "alive" servers with active players, and its nothing to worry about because dragon x15 will have regular updates too.
sorry, but we had multiply servers as u said, but all of them we're merging 1 by 1 into one just coz they we're dying coz GM's (sorry, I respect ur work but still it wasn't enough looks like) didn't care about them enough. Atm u're making 1 new server where ppl will go ofc, but same goes for Dragon, we got here everything we needed to pvp or pve, u promised us a lot of updates (as always, soon ::) ) and we w8, but now we hear again - w8 more. Sili got right with his posts, instead of making 1 server playable (lags issue, disconnection issue - still didn't fixed) and then taking care of new one, u're just forgetting old one and let's start with smth easier (i hope u'll make an awesome server).
@saboteur - u complain about dx, but u still play here, don't u? I won't defend Glasy, I know he made a lot of things which he shouldn't, but he also helps ppl when they need it, so it's not that he is just evil (hearing old stories from some ppl, I could say same things about rest GM's which we're on Nm, InfiNm and Dragon ;) what bad things they made ). Point is no matter if this server is dead or not (it is since long time, I see it) but they leave there community with few hundreds (for sure not 1k players like we hear, mby with dual boxes :D) ppl who still play there, fight for castles or wards and who could still enjoy it. And ur talk about items and rest of this crap is total bullshit, no offense ;)
Quote from: eagleye on December 26, 2013, 03:39:00 PM
sorry, but we had multiply servers as u said, but all of them we're merging 1 by 1 into one just coz they we're dying coz GM's (sorry, I respect ur work but still it wasn't enough looks like) didn't care about them enough. Atm u're making 1 new server where ppl will go ofc, but same goes for Dragon, we got here everything we needed to pvp or pve, u promised us a lot of updates (as always, soon ::) ) and we w8, but now we hear again - w8 more. Sili got right with his posts, instead of making 1 server playable (lags issue, disconnection issue - still didn't fixed) and then taking care of new one, u're just forgetting old one and let's start with smth easier (i hope u'll make an awesome server).
You are right, infinity , nightmare and dragon were merged into one. But let me tell you the major difference. The only 1 difference between all this 3 servers were rates. All of them were on same chronicle and with similar gameplay. When people started to leaving ( cause of many reasons ), we couldnt run 3 servers with low popularity. It was obvious they need to be merged into one, cause in fact they were pretty the same, and Dragon x15 is now a server with many people online. We want to keep it this way, but we want to open the doors for other people. The ones that left us, the ones that we never had a chance to have ( PL,RU translations ) or just players who want to feel good old IL times.
Quote from: carniburuz on December 26, 2013, 03:12:12 PM
Hi all, im very concerned about x15 dragon, i spend a lot of money on that server and from my point of view... u will let it die...no nice event, no fixes, no updates, just empty promises...and now with new server.... i think u really want to kill x15... sad
We had just 1 server and GM cant handle... can u imagine what will hapen with both? Dragon will fall into the hands of evil...(if u know waht i mean)...
Like some ppl says, we are many ppl who doesnt have all time to start over and over again...the old times has pased for many of us, now we have family, wife, job etc...i played since interlude... and i dont remember it as the best...
I quess that the only few things that we needed from x15 was some of the rly good ideas that u have for this new tarantula... but as i said before... u are just letting die our loved Dragon x15
i wish luck to all who go to Tarantula...
PD Yes is a QQ TOPIC, JUST I DONT UNDERSTAND HOW GM PREFER OPEN NEW SERVER THAN FIX AND IMPROVE ONE WICH IS ONLINE SINCE MANY YEARS!! I DONT GET IT
RIP DRAGON QQ
+1
Answer is easy: YOU CAN'T BALANCE SERVER WITH SUB STACK SYSTEM.
Beter option be if new server dont have 2 class in 1.... Also i agree with option that when new server comes 80% x15 dragon come there killing x15.
Like very old player say on TS: "here since 3 years no more new ppl... just old ppl with new chars" Why its look that is question to our GMs ( and i dont talk now about glasy)
Quote from: ^Artur^ on December 26, 2013, 03:52:22 PM
You are right, infinity , nightmare and dragon were merged into one. But let me tell you the major difference. The only 1 difference between all this 3 servers were rates. All of them were on same chronicle and with similar gameplay. When people started to leaving ( cause of many reasons ), we couldnt run 3 servers with low popularity. It was obvious they need to be merged into one, cause in fact they were pretty the same, and Dragon x15 is now a server with many people online. We want to keep it this way, but we want to open the doors for other people. The ones that left us, the ones that we never had a chance to have ( PL,RU translations ) or just players who want to feel good old IL times.
only?
Infinity didnt have many characters many nobl chars either cuz of low rates
Dragon was corrupted as fck from summoned s-grade weaps +24/25, Bigcat and others "top" gm's, gm char running in oly, killing his friend result into ban/dc, summoning max lvl chars, top items for friends...
on NM we had track, and since he will be in charge here, i will not say much more there (for more info look ^ dragon)
NM in that all merges had the biggest impact if its about oly and higher grade items, cuz of better rates easier farm, easier new char making possiblities.
Not saying it was bad idea to merge, but it wasnt fair for all servers.
U forgot about ninja merge valkyria into dragon, when valkyria players had no word to say, they was put into x15 database w/o any privileges no clan halls etc.
Quote from: Peorexo on December 26, 2013, 04:01:54 PM
only?
Infinity didnt have many characters many nobl chars either cuz of low rates
Dragon was corrupted as fck from summoned s-grade weaps +24/25, Bigcat and others "top" gm's, gm char running in oly, killing his friend result into ban/dc, summoning max lvl chars, top items for friends...
on NM we had track, and since he will be in charge here, i will not say much more there (for more info look ^ dragon)
NM in that all merges had the biggest impact if its about oly and higher grade items, cuz of better rates easier farm, easier new char making possiblities.
Not saying it was bad idea to merge, but it wasnt fair for all servers.
U forgot about ninja merge valkyria into dragon, when valkyria players had no word to say, they was put into x15 database w/o any privileges no clan halls etc.
Sometimes you need to make a decision which has positive and negative sides. Well, in most of the cases every hard decision has this two sides.
As i said we couldnt run 3 servers with low popularity and decision about the merge of all of them was the best possible.
Please remain on Tarantula topic, its the proper section for it.
Quote from: ^Artur^ on December 26, 2013, 03:52:22 PM
You are right, infinity , nightmare and dragon were merged into one. But let me tell you the major difference. The only 1 difference between all this 3 servers were rates. All of them were on same chronicle and with similar gameplay. When people started to leaving ( cause of many reasons ), we couldnt run 3 servers with low popularity. It was obvious they need to be merged into one, cause in fact they were pretty the same, and Dragon x15 is now a server with many people online. We want to keep it this way, but we want to open the doors for other people. The ones that left us, the ones that we never had a chance to have ( PL,RU translations ) or just players who want to feel good old IL times.
U mean offline shops and dual boxes? ::)
I don't wanna say anything bad about DN, but it's the sad truth.
Quote from: Peorexo on December 26, 2013, 04:01:54 PM
Not saying it was bad idea to merge, but it wasnt fair for all servers.
U forgot about ninja merge valkyria into dragon, when valkyria players had no word to say, they was put into x15 database w/o any privileges no clan halls etc.
"Ninja" merge with Dragon was literally like a lottery win. Server was hella dead, ppl we're farming epics etc w/o any competition with just a few ppl on every epic and 1-2 ppl on zaken/qa. Everything was worthless there.. And some day buh, valkyrie got merged with dragon and all of theese worthless epics and gear started to be worth a lot.
Will you make this server range only again by nerfing all possible melee classes due to tears of unskilled range players?
Please keep up with Tarantula matter, otherwise this topic will be closed.
Just to let you know guys, Tarantula will NEVER be merged with dragon, so i think we can have at least one little smile on your faces :D
Quote from: WscieklyWaz on December 26, 2013, 04:13:54 PM
Will you make this server range only again by nerfing all possible melee classes due to tears of unskilled range players?
Interlude is quite old chronicle and it makes us possibility of balancing as much as possible. We had many years to fix and test many things, but of course nerfes may happen but only if really needed
Quote from: ^Artur^ on December 26, 2013, 04:16:49 PM
Please keep up with Tarantula matter, otherwise this topic will be closed.
Just to let you know guys, Tarantula will NEVER be merged with dragon, so i think we can have at least one little smile on your faces :D
Interlude is quite old chronicle and it makes us possibility of balancing as much as possible. We had many years to fix and test many things, but of course nerfes may happen but only if really needed
we didn't ask about merge with Dragon (since both will be totally different chronicles), we ask why u leave 1 server behind just to make easier work with new one?
PvP Dmg Reduction like on x15?
Quote from: eagleye on December 26, 2013, 04:23:00 PM
we didn't ask about merge with Dragon (since both will be totally different chronicles), we ask why u leave 1 server behind just to make easier work with new one?
if your wooden house attack woodworms , u just incinerate the whole place and build new house :) Is not easier , but is more hiden then show middlefinger to curent x15 status :)
Quote from: eagleye on December 26, 2013, 04:23:00 PM
we didn't ask about merge with Dragon (since both will be totally different chronicles), we ask why u leave 1 server behind just to make easier work with new one?
None left server behind, h5 is under development and planned fixes you will see in upcoming period.
New server - old chronicle is global demand in area of pvt l2servers. We have created something good , so why we shouldnt open 1more choise for Network? And i repeat again DN was always multi server network so i absolutly dont see any issues in it.
Quote from: ^Artur^ on December 26, 2013, 04:16:49 PM
Interlude is quite old chronicle and it makes us possibility of balancing as much as possible. We had many years to fix and test many things, but of course nerfes may happen but only if really needed
So better not to make a dagger char, as always ::)
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on December 26, 2013, 01:07:24 PM
I dont see where is the problem camping EPIC raids? They are Epic in the end... what we can do is make random spawn shorter which imo its correct. Also faster respawn absolutely is for important quest raids.
Faster resp of epics = serv is full of rb jewels = disbalance. Easy logic.
Quote from: ^Artur^ on December 26, 2013, 04:16:49 PM
Interlude is quite old chronicle and it makes us possibility of balancing as much as possible. We had many years to fix and test many things, but of course nerfes may happen but only if really needed
Define "really needed" please?
For example everyone knows that in interlude gladi/tyr could 2 hit archer/mage, sometimes 1 hit if crit. Since 90% of players will be archer/mage and prolly crying that they are killed so easly... is it situation when nerf is "really needed"?
I am not even mentioning daggers, but thats not their chronice ;)
Quote from: mr_Facke on December 26, 2013, 05:00:06 PM
Faster resp of epics = serv is full of rb jewels = disbalance. Easy logic.
I said about random respawn shorter not fixed one.
@nerfs ,guys PLEASE stop talking about these things we heavent even started yet. Be patient when (if) time ever comes to this we will go trough this matter. Talking about future tense just doesnt make any sense.
Thanks
Quote from: WscieklyWaz on December 26, 2013, 05:00:26 PM
Define "really needed" please?
For example everyone knows that in interlude gladi/tyr could 2 hit archer/mage, sometimes 1 hit if crit. Since 90% of players will be archer/mage and prolly crying that they are killed so easly... is it situation when nerf is "really needed"?
I am not even mentioning daggers, but thats not their chronice ;)
I liked TH/PA alot in interlude and I might end up making it my main tbh whats the problem with that ?
Interlude is way more balanced than the other chronicles espetially when it comes to substack.
as Track said before, first we need to see everything "live" to check for any unbalance.
Anyway we were preparing IL for MONTHS, so i doubt it will be some serious problems with balance. 90% is kind of ready already and tested.
Topic reached its point.
- no nerfs made
- no secret nerfs
- no pre-launch nerfs
- time is main factor for everything