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Heya , well it's still under descussion but i think we are close to the rule " 2 boxes allowed " .
To be more specific, main char + 1 support char .
Dragon always had the rule Main char + 2 boxes (so 3 in total)
Quote from: Wh1sper on December 27, 2013, 10:09:30 AM
Dragon always had the rule Main char + 2 boxes (so 3 in total)
Yes but we are not Dragon. However prior opening i will come out with official info.
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Main char + 2 boxes , thats best for all. Thanks
Quote from: ^Deavon^ on December 26, 2013, 03:12:43 PM
Heya , well it's still under descussion but i think we are close to the rule " 2 boxes allowed " .
To be more specific, main char + 1 support char .
You are crazy ?? we dont have mutants soo no PP/BD no SWS/WC no WC/BP ....
we need min. main char +2 suport chars = 3 boxes!!!!!!!!
Quote from: XxCAH9IxX on December 27, 2013, 09:25:34 PM
You are crazy ?? we dont have mutants soo no PP/BD no SWS/WC no WC/BP ....
we need min. main char +2 suport chars = 3 boxes!!!!!!!!
As he said we are still discussing this matter, he didnt said official statment yet. However i wonder what happened with players actually playing supports as active chars? Why supports always has to be bots, not everyone must be dd-s you know?
Quote from: XxCAH9IxX on December 27, 2013, 09:25:34 PM
You are crazy ?? we dont have mutants soo no PP/BD no SWS/WC no WC/BP ....
we need min. main char +2 suport chars = 3 boxes!!!!!!!!
u forgot that its interlude and u have 20 buff slot in total, including songs,dances, u wont need triple box :D
Quote from: Peorexo on December 27, 2013, 09:57:51 PM
u forgot that its interlude and u have 20 buff slot in total, including songs,dances, u wont need triple box :D
Indeed, BUT , we made it possible to have up to 34. We shell see yet.
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on December 27, 2013, 09:59:50 PM
Indeed, BUT , we made it possible to have up to 34. We shell see yet.
hm dont think that 34 buffs is good idea...
Quote from: DiZon on December 27, 2013, 10:19:44 PM
hm dont think that 34 buffs is good idea...
At this point i dont know if it is good or bad, we will test it after finishing current work. I just said it is possible to set anything 20-34. Have to see pro/cons
Quote from: XxCAH9IxX on December 27, 2013, 09:25:34 PM
You are crazy ?? we dont have mutants soo no PP/BD no SWS/WC no WC/BP ....
we need min. main char +2 suport chars = 3 boxes!!!!!!!!
So how play ppl on official server w/o subs? There max 1 char possible to log. Since we got subs 2 chars(main+box) is enough.
Quote from: XxCAH9IxX on December 27, 2013, 09:25:34 PM
You are crazy ?? we dont have mutants soo no PP/BD no SWS/WC no WC/BP ....
we need min. main char +2 suport chars = 3 boxes!!!!!!!!
The main point of having 1 char and 1 box is to have fun at pve/pvp with friends and clan/ally mates and not to log a "support army" and run around alone ... ;-)
Still , its under discussion so stay tuned for feedback.
Quote from: ^Deavon^ on December 27, 2013, 11:20:40 PM
The main point of having 1 char and 1 box is to have fun at pve/pvp with friends and clan/ally mates and not to log a "support army" and run around alone ... ;-)
Still , its under discussion so stay tuned for feedback.
1 man army is always fun :D
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on December 27, 2013, 10:23:49 PM
At this point i dont know if it is good or bad, we will test it after finishing current work. I just said it is possible to set anything 20-34. Have to see pro/cons
Let that official buff amount stay, it will be more situational buff setup and ppl will have to think (thats not hard) what to do and when instead of ultimate macro's. It will be more fun this way
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on December 27, 2013, 09:29:26 PM
As he said we are still discussing this matter, he didnt said official statment yet. However i wonder what happened with players actually playing supports as active chars? Why supports always has to be bots, not everyone must be dd-s you know?
What a great comment.
+1
We don't need to have 95% of all players on server who just think about PvP count in stats window, lol.
Make a char with which you love to play, learn all tips and tricks with that char and become a pro with that class, no matter if is that class for Olympiad, PvP, Mass PvP or Support.
Playing like "Oh look that subb I have to make it to kill people!" after 20 days "ahhh look that, this must be better, gonna make this!"
Come on people.
We always had problems with buffs here in Dragon Network... Always overbuff ! I will never understand that. What's the problem to have a lot of buffs, its always a good thing. Dance-song time duration are still unfixed in Dragon,(coz of some stubborn staff member) hope in new server they will be at least 3-5 minutes... Coz it's killing all the fun with 2 min dance..
Quote from: __Metallica__ on December 28, 2013, 02:26:33 PM
We always had problems with buffs here in Dragon Network... Always overbuff ! I will never understand that. What's the problem to have a lot of buffs, its always a good thing. Dance-song time duration are still unfixed in Dragon, hope in new server they will be at least 3-5 minutes... Coz it's killing all the fun with 2 min dance..
i like the situation of buffs, u have to choose what u want to have, u cant have all that would be boring and noob/bot like.
1 main + 1 window
Max buffs 24 +4 for better balance and not over buffed also if buffs slot is only 24+4 we ( supporters ) can be usefull as mains
(Better for xp on high level and much more fun and to much party activity
Stop whining about buff slots, it's more than enough. Go to high rate pvp server, if you can't even buff properly.
Main + 2 boxes would be nice.
Quote from: narutovios on December 28, 2013, 03:24:59 PM
1 main + 1 window
Max buffs 24 +4 for better balance and not over buffed also if buffs slot is only 24+4 we ( supporters ) can be usefull as mains
(Better for xp on high level and much more fun and to much party activity
+1 to this
Quote from: profa on December 28, 2013, 07:04:32 PM
Dont allow dual boxex at all.Only problem that can happen is with transfering items from 2 different acc, but im sure you can make new NPC that could do that, with password as security quesiton or something like that.
Without dual boxex, people can play supports, partys are always with active people, without bots, more action, more interesting.
Or else, allow 1+2 and have server full of boots, like usual, everyone afking in town, or farming spots, or full pt which are played by 2 guys actually.
There will be rule Main +1 box out of town, once we up the rules you will see that.
Quote from: narutovios on December 28, 2013, 03:24:59 PM
1 main + 1 window
Max buffs 24 +4 for better balance and not over buffed also if buffs slot is only 24+4 we ( supporters ) can be usefull as mains
(Better for xp on high level and much more fun and to much party activity
+1
And Dance/Songs Timers should be Retail like. Supports should be played as mains and not bots.
3 Box foreva. Dunno why but I think this server will live around 5 months (Sorry to say that, no offense please). People will make some items, and will sell them (for items in Dragon), thats what happening in every server. I trully respect the creators of such an idea to become reality, please don't get me wrong. At least we will have some old players back from other servers. If they sustain the L2 fire, then all is going to be OK . Hope that we won't have any corrupted GM, or any cheater clan around to spoil the fun. Good luck.
Quote from: __Metallica__ on December 28, 2013, 11:01:38 PM
Good luck.
I think will be fun and the creators know what they doing, they got big xp with how to maintain an server. And they learn of the mistakes of others.
Icantwait :)
max one box
better 1 main +2 boxes because many people work all day and others are free and need to w8 their cp members to back from work to can play together may be is good to people can log 1 wc+1 bd for farm
or make option when main char dont have sub to can log 2 boxes and when have substack to can log 1 suport
will better if have NPC Buffer :D
Quote from: ZuUuUuUuU on December 29, 2013, 12:19:09 PM
will better if have NPC Buffer :D
i really think that is not a good idea :D
Even with box limit some ppl will find way to log many chars - some programs, virtual machine or simply few PCs.
some little suggestion for u about ppl making supports and playing more with pt not with bots.
Make it 1 main +1 box, and since u want to make dynamic exp (tbh I wonder why some of those updates can't be made on Dragon but w/e...) , make it like it should work in H5 - I mean that for example if u're alone in pt, u get 100% exp, but when u're 5 ppl's in pt, u're getting 100% exp + let's say some x% as bonus (it should start from having in pt 3-4 chars I think, so ppl wouldn't be just 2 in pt, and it would be profitable to go exp in pt).
Quote from: eagleye on December 30, 2013, 12:05:10 AM
some little suggestion for u about ppl making supports and playing more with pt not with bots.
Make it 1 main +1 box, and since u want to make dynamic exp (tbh I wonder why some of those updates can't be made on Dragon but w/e...) , make it like it should work in H5 - I mean that for example if u're alone in pt, u get 100% exp, but when u're 5 ppl's in pt, u're getting 100% exp + let's say some x% as bonus (it should start from having in pt 3-4 chars I think, so ppl wouldn't be just 2 in pt, and it would be profitable to go exp in pt).
That's an excelent Idea tbh I saw it on an Interlude server recently with some huge population, I really loved it.
I'd like idea of main and 2boxes. Maybe some general vote before grand opening?
I like the ideal of 1 main 1 box as the max allowed out of town.
I think the best for all in general the best option would be 1 main + 2 box, but it would be more democratic vote.
for me it would be 1main+1box - it's golden rule, it makes solo players or even teams to log 1 support that is enough for farming, while preventing some maniac(s) to box full party and do FoG trains.
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on December 27, 2013, 09:29:26 PM
As he said we are still discussing this matter, he didnt said official statment yet. However i wonder what happened with players actually playing supports as active chars? Why supports always has to be bots, not everyone must be dd-s you know?
+1
The clan that will have active support chars will rule the server. Only solo farmers would ask for 1 main + 2 boxes so they can have 6 chars. Personally I think that even 1 main + 1 box is a lot since there is stack sub so u would have 4 classes on u... allowing boxes will ruin sieges and mass pvp...
1+1 is max imo
If there will be boxes at all, then it should be main+1.
If you want my honest opinion, boxes shouldn't be allowed at all. I have the best memories playing L2 from the times when I played on Nightmare, simply because there were always competition for everything(at least when I played there from early c4 until late IL), but I enjoyed playing the early levels on bfdr(before everybody started sandboxing) and the official server a lot more, because dual boxes weren't allowed and you could find a party anywhere with any class, even if you didn't had a constant party or you simply played at weird hours for some reason. It's simply more enjoyable playing with people, even with randoms, than logging in your own box army and farm alone.
If main+2 boxes or more are allowed we might as well allow people to use bots or enable npc buffers...
@up
+1
Quote from: nbx on December 30, 2013, 08:15:41 PM
If there will be boxes at all, then it should be main+1.
If you want my honest opinion, boxes shouldn't be allowed at all. I have the best memories playing L2 from the times when I played on Nightmare, simply because there were always competition for everything(at least when I played there from early c4 until late IL), but I enjoyed playing the early levels on bfdr(before everybody started sandboxing) and the official server a lot more, because dual boxes weren't allowed and you could find a party anywhere with any class, even if you didn't had a constant party or you simply played at weird hours for some reason. It's simply more enjoyable playing with people, even with randoms, than logging in your own box army and farm alone.
If main+2 boxes or more are allowed we might as well allow people to use bots or enable npc buffers...
main +1, thats all.
Main+1
Main + 1