what time song and dance`s ?? beather 5 min or 10 :)
Retail like ...2 minutes...but i might be wrong..wait for the list with all the changes(i am sure they will mention song/dance time)
Quote from: Stazy on January 14, 2014, 09:47:28 AM
Retail like ...2 minutes...but i might be wrong..wait for the list with all the changes(i am sure they will mention song/dance time)
Retail like isn't 3 minutes? I don't know anything anymore :d
Quote from: Sokrates on January 14, 2014, 10:53:47 AM
Retail like isn't 3 minutes? I don't know anything anymore :d
nope
Quote from: Scaryy on January 14, 2014, 11:22:21 AM
2m 59 sec when u click it so randoms think its 2min :D
No, it's 1m 59 sec.
what about 3 min 59 sec like it was on old IL nightmare,as i remember.... i`m not 100%:)
at dn was 2.59 i think not 3.59
and i think 1.59 will avoid to use bd/sws as box and prefer a support of that kind
Retail like is 3 min.You dance,for 1 sec timer shows 3 min and after 1 sec(2:59) it shows 2 min cause L2 timers are in minutes only not Min+sec.
Quote from: Luthor123 on January 14, 2014, 12:07:19 PM
Retail like is 3 min.You dance,for 1 sec timer shows 3 min and after 1 sec(2:59) it shows 2 min cause L2 timers are in minutes only not Min+sec.
No, it's not. Retail like is 2 min. You dance, for 1 sec timer shows 2 min and after 1 sec (1:59) it shows 1 min cause L2 timers are in minutes only not Min+sec.
Quote from: GenghisKhan on January 14, 2014, 12:13:03 PM
No, it's not. Retail like is 2 min. You dance, for 1 sec timer shows 2 min and after 1 sec (1:59) it shows 1 min cause L2 timers are in minutes only not Min+sec.
All this is confusing and i miss typed. You're right.
Quote from: Luthor123 on January 14, 2014, 12:07:19 PM
Retail like is 3 min.You dance,for 1 sec timer shows 3 min and after 1 sec(2:59) it shows 2 min cause L2 timers are in minutes only not Min+sec.
Wrong. Just check any information site.
"Dance of Fire Lv.1 - Physical Skill
Increases Critical Damage of all party members by 35% for 2 minutes"
Its 2 minutes.
You can get it to 4 minutes enchanting it to +9/+11
Quote from: lNecropsy on January 14, 2014, 12:15:31 PM
Wrong. Just check any information site.
"Dance of Fire Lv.1 - Physical Skill
Increases Critical Damage of all party members by 35% for 2 minutes"
Its 2 minutes.
You can get it to 4 minutes enchanting it to +9/+11
Yep my bad. :P Thx for the correction.
Poor BD/XX. Every 2 min. they have to change to dual sword for dance.
Song/dances are 2 min.
Quote from: Scaryy on January 14, 2014, 01:38:46 PM
hope they put no duals needed to dance. its much more fun and easy to make
And speed 950 for faster running , yea right Mr Split Personalities.
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on January 14, 2014, 01:41:26 PM
And speed 950 for faster running , yea right Mr Split Personalities.
Sorry track, but I agree with him.
It would be could if it was possible to use dances w/o Duals, since no xx/bd uses dual swords.
It would not make any class unbalanced.
Quote from: lNecropsy on January 14, 2014, 01:48:26 PM
Sorry track, but I agree with him.
It would be could if it was possible to use dances w/o Duals, since no xx/bd uses dual swords.
It would not make any class unbalanced.
Well, its not that i dont want to listen or that i have anything against suggestion, quite opposite . But my team incl Drake is build of old L2 fellas who prefer keep the basics simply as they are , even sometimes they do seem harder. I dont mind speak out at our gm room about this matter , and see what they would all say, but as i said chances are low to apply this.
I vote against this, especially if it includes Dance of Medusa.
Quote from: GenghisKhan on January 14, 2014, 02:08:06 PM
I vote against this, especially if it includes Dance of Medusa.
Vote for dualbox bd? Noone choose a bd for dnsub if they need dual sword for dances.
Sword singer can use buffs/attack type songs with any type of weapon.
is that so hard to make D grade duals? <.<
I think the old 4 min dance song would be better on a stacksub server like this... it must be really annoying to change weapon every second min, for example with a BD. For SWS it's a bit better as the songs work on every weapon.
Quote from: TheBlackPhoenix on January 14, 2014, 03:04:38 PM
They will answer that "it is retail like"... But in retail server BD will use 90% time only dual sword so no problem, instead on stacksub server it wont..
it's not about dual's price, it's about switching dual swords every 2 minutes
When they start nerfing the skills after server start it won't be retail like. Imho. 8)
Quote from: mardel on January 14, 2014, 03:09:29 PM
When they start nerfing the skills after server start it won't be retail like. Imho. 8)
Im sure if would receive 7000 dmg from 1 hit that you would continue and love to play on this server?
Quote from: Scaryy on January 14, 2014, 03:29:58 PM
I would be happy that there is finally a l2off priv server (7k double stabfrom AW to DC robe is definition of L2off :)
Yea and there u dont have mana potions ,tank sub on daggers, tattos, etc.
Quote from: Scaryy on January 14, 2014, 03:29:58 PM
I would be happy that there is finally a l2off priv server (7k double stabfrom AW to DC robe is definition of L2off :)
Smite amount for the new forum account say everything.
I still don't understand why you don't use your original forum acc.
Quote from: Abaddon on January 14, 2014, 02:58:50 PM
indeed, SWS can use all songs, aswell as Psycho Symphony and Song of Silence with any weapon, so why BD shouldnt?
sh/bd and sps/sws or pr/bd and sr/sws are the same kind of stacksub combo, tho elfs are way more enjoyable to play.
Well thats true...
The reason why many ppl hate to play any dark elf/bd is cuz they must change weapon all the time...
In the past dances lasted longer (and were already pain in the ass) than they gonna last now... If i remember in old times dances were 3 mins now gonna be 2...
So every 2 mins u need to change weapon.. that sux... Like some1 wrote on official BD use duals almost all time... here no1will... unless u boost BD somehow that ppl start make classes like dunno bd/sk or bd/ps on fighter stats...
Removeing necesserity of keeping dual weapon for dance would make gameplay for BD's more enjoyable and comfortable and u should seriously consider this..
I would like also to see animation of dances without duals :)
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on January 14, 2014, 03:25:14 PM
Im sure if would receive 7000 dmg from 1 hit that you would continue and love to play on this server?
No. I enjoy trash my char after DN Balance. :P
Quote from: mardel on January 14, 2014, 04:05:38 PM
No. I enjoy trash my char after DN Balance. :P
Thats why the list of changes will appear BEFORE servers opening , so people can choose what to play on its the very beginning.
Quote from: TheBlackPhoenix on January 14, 2014, 04:17:22 PM
1 10 hours leaaftt !!11"
actually 73 left and 3 minutes
http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?p0=2177&iso=20140117T171717&year=2014&month=1&day=17&hour=17&min=17&sec=17&msg=Dragon-Network%20Interlude%20Opening&fg2=ff605a (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?p0=2177&iso=20140117T171717&year=2014&month=1&day=17&hour=17&min=17&sec=17&msg=Dragon-Network%20Interlude%20Opening&fg2=ff605a)
@SofiaTheReal - He was reffering to the infamous promise by the GM about full features list: "It will be posted on sunday or monday, MAXIMUM tuesday."
so if it wont happend today (tuesday) you do what? you wont play here?
actually your caps and aggresive attitude makes me wonder if you have a life or you just spent your time here..
DO YOU?
People need to stop whining.
Server doesn't open till Friday - does it really matter if you don't know the full feature list yet? It's not really going to radically change your life for the next couple of days.
Things are looking good here, regardless of the finer details there's clearly a lot of thought going into this and a lot of players returning to play. It should be good fun, just stop moaning!
Quote from: SofiatheReal on January 14, 2014, 04:26:06 PM
so if it wont happend today (tuesday) you do what? you wont play here?
actually your caps and aggresive attitude makes me wonder if you have a life or you just spent your time here..
DO YOU?
Are you talking to me, because I'm lil bit confused. All I did was explaining on what TBP reffered and I used quotes, which means if I used maximum at caps, that's because T0 also used ones couple of days ago.
Quote from: TheBlackPhoenix on January 14, 2014, 03:04:38 PM
it's not about dual's price, it's about switching dual swords every 2 minutes
and where's the problem in that?
just put duals and main weapon in skillbar and voilà , les jeux sont faits
some slight tweaks on mana consumption for dance/song would be awesome ...for ex: a pw/sws can't possibly handle both blow skills and songing the party which makes it a less preferable combination....just sayin.....
Just to clarify, there will be no edit on song/dance time , nor on dance dual requirement (BD will need duals to dance)
Thank you
Quote from: Scaryy on January 14, 2014, 09:03:27 PM
long-length long-live server recipte is broken :D
Quote from: Abaddon on January 14, 2014, 08:59:04 PM
reason?
How old r u guys? No pun intended, I would really like to know.
Quote from: igi on January 14, 2014, 09:24:14 PM
How old r u guys? No pun intended, I would really like to know.
Physically or mentally?
I doubt u can get over 20 even if u add them together.
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on January 14, 2014, 08:55:54 PM
Just to clarify, there will be no edit on song/dance time , nor on dance dual requirement (BD will need duals to dance)
Thank you
Quote from: =^TrackZero^=
you don't report "issue" because you are not TOP in all subjects; We will talk with the community, value your voice but final decisions is on the staff, because some of the decisions can be good for few of you but generally doing damage toward whole server.
Well about BD useing dances isnt reporting something OP, it would make ppl want to make such support as BD and make gameplay much comfortable.
Like You told final voice is up to You but... its not many times that ppl ask to do sth that rly wont breake game and will help a lot...
Quote from: Abaddon on January 14, 2014, 08:43:58 PM
u still dont get a point, dont u?
i do, and i dont really see any problem in that. i could say that i'd prefer 4 mins s/d, but that's another story. switching weapons is not a problem
Quote from: Garn. on January 14, 2014, 09:30:33 PM
i do, and i dont really see any problem in that. i could say that i'd prefer 4 mins s/d, but that's another story. switching weapons is not a problem
OFC not.. sadly u wont be able to enchant songs/dances from lvl 76+ as much as other...
I see its no problem for You to change weapon all time cuz dances wont end in same time...
Do You even play BD?? Heh...
Quote from: thepal on January 14, 2014, 10:25:00 PM
OFC not.. sadly u wont be able to enchant songs/dances from lvl 76+ as much as other...
I see its no problem for You to change weapon all time cuz dances wont end in same time...
Do You even play BD?? Heh...
it has been my first char
Quote from: Garn. on January 14, 2014, 10:25:45 PM
it has been my first char
Where and When? Back in time on DN servers dances from 3rd at least were longer cuz of almost no possibility to enchant it...
I dont see fun from playing bd and changeing weapon every 1 min to redance some buff...
Quote from: thepal on January 14, 2014, 10:28:57 PM
Where and When? Back in time on DN servers dances from 3rd at least were longer cuz of almost no possibility to enchant it...
I dont see fun from playing bd and changeing weapon every 1 min to redance some buff...
blame ncsoft for that, but i really dont understand why is it that big problem to switch weapons