Wasn't the enchanting supposed to be more difficult than, I mean... a bit more challenging..? A week later we see people with red weapons...
(http://puu.sh/6wAXT.jpg)
Get balls and keep enchanting too instead of crying on forum.
Quote from: Escaflew on January 24, 2014, 08:11:05 PM
Wasn't the enchanting supposed to be more difficult than, I mean... a bit more challenging..? A week later we see people with red weapons...
(http://puu.sh/6wAXT.jpg)
I can assure you enchanting will be twice challenging then it was in the past , if not more. Mark my words and keep watching tears on S grades :)
+16 big deal, someone has to succeed sometimes don you agree? He tried his luck , and done. Others failed , and they can re-try soon. I dont see big deal about all this enchant fuzz anyway.
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on January 24, 2014, 08:36:37 PM
I can assure you enchanting will be twice challenging then it was in the past , if not more. Mark my words and keep watching tears on S grades :)
+16 big deal, someone has to succeed sometimes don you agree? He tried his luck , and done. Others failed , and they can re-try soon. I dont see big deal about all this enchant fuzz anyway.
Damn ppl aren't bored making 1000 topics about enchant rate...dafaq.
I wanna see them ballz when they try enchant s grade weapons and than they will come qq on forum and say enchant rate is to low or nerfed =)) Mark my words Track mark my words.
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on January 24, 2014, 08:36:37 PM
I can assure you enchanting will be twice challenging then it was in the past , if not more. Mark my words and keep watching tears on S grades :)
+16 big deal, someone has to succeed sometimes don you agree? He tried his luck , and done. Others failed , and they can re-try soon. I dont see big deal about all this enchant fuzz anyway.
You don't think a +16 C weapon on a 1 week server is cause of concern? Surely many will fail but in 1 month the standard for A/S could easly be +8/10
Quote from: Misato on January 24, 2014, 08:43:51 PM
You don't think a +16 C weapon on a 1 week server is cause of concern? Surely many will fail but in 1 month the standard for A/S could easly be +8/10
+8/+10 is bad because? Really lets put rates 20/40 and GL on not-enchanting. Then lets just deleted enchanting from the game .
P.S http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Star+Wars
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on January 24, 2014, 08:49:02 PM
+8/+10 is bad because? Really lets put rates 20/40 and GL on not-enchanting. Then lets just deleted enchanting from the game .
P.S http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Star+Wars
You rly don't get it do u? Ppl r asking to lower the enchant rate, so what's up with this "just delete enchanting".
Also why is bad +8/+10? Because as ppl keep saying "get balls and do it" does not apply here, since to make +16 weapons u need money not luck with this kind of rates.
Quote from: Misato on January 24, 2014, 08:54:12 PM
You rly don't get it do u? Ppl r asking to lower the enchant rate, so what's up with this "just delete enchanting".
Also why is bad +8/+10? Because as ppl keep saying "get balls and do it" does not apply here, since to make +16 weapons u need money not luck with this kind of rates.
So let me understand, people who can make money in game must be crippled to enchant their items because others cant do same? Enchanting is part of the game, just because you full enchant table for each step doesnt mean the enchant system have high(er) rate then it should be. We have been trying and trying this enchant system and believe me even for us with unlimited resources was very extremely hard. This is what im trying to tell you all the time.
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on January 24, 2014, 08:57:21 PM
So let me understand, people who can make money in game must be crippled to enchant their items because others cant do same? Enchanting is part of the game, just because you full enchant table for each step doesnt mean the enchant system have high(er) rate then it should be. We have been trying and trying this enchant system and believe me even for us with unlimited resources was very extremely hard. This is what im trying to tell you all the time.
Its not that hard when there r 2000 ppl trying it, as proved by that screenshot... But well w/e u won't change it so i'll just leave that topic aside.
According to that logic i don't see why lowering enchant rate would be a problem, rich ppl will still try more than poor ppl but we'll see less blue/red weapons around.
Quote from: Misato on January 24, 2014, 09:06:35 PM
According to that logic i don't see why lowering enchant rate would be a problem, rich ppl will still try more than poor ppl but we'll see less blue/red weapons around.
U want enchant rate lowered?
That up there is a +16 weapon which from +13 and up had a 50% success rate....
Making 20% fail rate on lower 'lvl' only gave more balls to ppl thats why u have so many bling blings in game
I bet QQers here broke something on +4 or +8
I highly doubt that new players will start playing here If they see 600 players running around with red weapons like star-wars.
I though this was a low-rate server
Quote from: Misato on January 24, 2014, 09:06:35 PM
According to that logic i don't see why lowering enchant rate would be a problem, rich ppl will still try more than poor ppl but we'll see less blue/red weapons around.
This.
Personally i don't any see positive side of having more OE weapons on the server, it closing the gap between C/B+SA > S+SA that ppl would normally have to actually spend some time/PvP to get (the few first at least) instead of farming adena/enchants and pray to be lucky. (Except if u manage to mess up the donations with soul crystals & stuff.)
Also this is a low-rate more or less, if someone wanted to see a server full OE blue/red/purple/green/rainbow weapons he would join a x10k server or some sv full of BR/GR scrubs.
Quote from: TigrisOfSouls on January 24, 2014, 09:50:21 PM
I highly doubt that new players will start playing here If they see 600 players running around with red weapons like star-wars.
I though this was a low-rate server
Thats why i choose NM over Dragon 7 years ago.
I joined Dragon and everyone had glowing weapon, insead on NM almost no one had.
Quote from: TigrisOfSouls on January 24, 2014, 09:50:21 PM
I highly doubt that new players will start playing here If they see 600 players running around with red weapons like star-wars.
I though this was a low-rate server
Yeah I think ppl wont like it very much if there r 600 red weapons in game...
600 red weapons 600 red weapons 600 red weapons 600 red weapons
Quote from: Falatko on January 24, 2014, 10:03:59 PM
people enchant C grade because they dotn care that it will break some C crap ...
really want to see you guys if you will get DB+F or AM+A how you will put enchant after enchant to it
so stop qq about these "STAR WARS"
Right,
You have to feel very lucky to try enchant A/S +++ when its atm hard to farm/craft
Quote from: Falatko on January 24, 2014, 10:03:59 PM
people enchant C grade because they dotn care that it will break some C crap ...
really want to see you guys if you will get DB+F or AM+A how you will put enchant after enchant to it
so stop qq about these "STAR WARS"
Buy/craft 10 DB, enchant all, keep the higher. That's how u enchant, not with balls.
Quote from: igi on January 24, 2014, 10:05:37 PM
Yeah I think ppl wont like it very much if there r 600 red weapons in game...
600 red weapons
600 red weapons
600 red weapons
600 red weapons
Hard job with that words right? :o
Quote from: Misato on January 24, 2014, 10:16:54 PM
Buy/craft 10 DB, enchant all, keep the higher. That's how u enchant, not with balls.
gl getting so many EWSs
Quote from: Falatko on January 24, 2014, 10:24:25 PM
what if i crafted my first draco bow and made him +7 then i added SA+got good augument but i was too greedy and started to enchant it more and more?
Then:
A - You got another DB+SA w8ing for you.
B - Enjoy your clean DB/Lower quality weapon.
C - You're braindead.
Quote from: igi on January 24, 2014, 10:28:41 PM
There wont be enchants at donny.
What about SA crystals? Those who control RB's will get another weap sooner or later (since the RB's here have proper drop rate ::)) but what about SA. Doubt ppl will risk S+SA with normal scrolls if there isnt some lame way to obtain them *cough* donn *cough*
Quote from: Falatko on January 24, 2014, 10:03:59 PM
people enchant C grade because they dotn care that it will break some C crap ...
really want to see you guys if you will get DB+F or AM+A how you will put enchant after enchant to it
And what if they will make +12/+16 S weapons right after server steps into this stage? What will you say then? Probably another nonsense like the one above or nothing because you won't be here anymore.
I have started noticing shitloads of 6++ weapons all around so I decided to try it out too. I made Sage Staff +6 in first try... If the rates were correct, I would have ~28% chance to do it or ~14% if considering 0.33 rate on mage weapons - doesn't sound too much and isn't supposed to.
TZ, we all noticed you like shiny weapons and clearly want the server to be overloaded with it, but please - set the retail enchant rates before it is going to be too late. People are asking for it over and over and over again, but you keep being stubborn on it - but when some high rate kids were moaning about low adena drop, you increased it by 100 (!) % quite fast...
Quote from: dedemonn on January 25, 2014, 12:13:07 AM
And what if they will make +12/+16 S weapons right after server steps into this stage? What will you say then? Probably another nonsense like the one above or nothing because you won't be here anymore.
I have started noticing shitloads of 6++ weapons all around so I decided to try it out too. I made Sage Staff +6 in first try... If the rates were correct, I would have ~28% chance to do it or ~14% if considering 0.33 rate on mage weapons - doesn't sound too much and isn't supposed to.
TZ, we all noticed you like shiny weapons and clearly want the server to be overloaded with it, but please - set the retail enchant rates before it is going to be too late. People are asking for it over and over and over again, but you keep being stubborn on it - but when some high rate kids were moaning about low adena drop, you increased it by 100 (!) % quite fast...
Let´se see what happens then, Duelists like Gicobbe of retail with +16 duals S killing ppl with 5-12k dmg AOEs and Titans with more p.atk than valakas and antharas together.
Quote from: dedemonn on January 25, 2014, 12:13:07 AM
And what if they will make +12/+16 S weapons right after server steps into this stage? What will you say then? Probably another nonsense like the one above or nothing because you won't be here anymore.
I have started noticing shitloads of 6++ weapons all around so I decided to try it out too. I made Sage Staff +6 in first try... If the rates were correct, I would have ~28% chance to do it or ~14% if considering 0.33 rate on mage weapons - doesn't sound too much and isn't supposed to.
TZ, we all noticed you like shiny weapons and clearly want the server to be overloaded with it, but please - set the retail enchant rates before it is going to be too late. People are asking for it over and over and over again, but you keep being stubborn on it - but when some high rate kids were moaning about low adena drop, you increased it by 100 (!) % quite fast...
Point is, im not stuborn or sonething, its just that we tested these rates over and over and believe me reuslts are really low. However i have told drake about all this and he (we) will reconsider all,in the end everything is changebul dont worry. Lets wait for drakes response 1st. Until then i wont write about this matter because i cant stand anymore the wave of imaturity here. The only reason i have replied you its because you sound mature and reasonable person unlike many others.
So lets wait for drake
Quote from: dedemonn on January 25, 2014, 12:13:07 AM
And what if they will make +12/+16 S weapons right after server steps into this stage? What will you say then? Probably another nonsense like the one above or nothing because you won't be here anymore.
I have started noticing shitloads of 6++ weapons all around so I decided to try it out too. I made Sage Staff +6 in first try... If the rates were correct, I would have ~28% chance to do it or ~14% if considering 0.33 rate on mage weapons - doesn't sound too much and isn't supposed to.
TZ, we all noticed you like shiny weapons and clearly want the server to be overloaded with it, but please - set the retail enchant rates before it is going to be too late. People are asking for it over and over and over again, but you keep being stubborn on it - but when some high rate kids were moaning about low adena drop, you increased it by 100 (!) % quite fast...
I agree with you in 100% is not too late for change :)
Lol, I didn't know that THAT many people will agree with me. I mean, seriously the server is out already 1 week. I get it, some people are lucky, but at the current situation, that's not the only guy with such a weapon. I'm pretty sure that there are like 20+ people with weapons over 7, even 8. Almost every 3th mage or fighter in giran is with blue C grade weapon. That ain't normal in my opinion, but whatever. We will see people in like 3 weeks with S +5/6 and even higher, IF the rates are kept like this. I can assure you, just remember my word! :)
Quote from: dedemonn on January 25, 2014, 12:13:07 AMupposed to.
TZ, we all noticed you like shiny weapons and clearly want the server to be overloaded with it, but please - set the retail enchant rates before it is going to be too late. People are asking for it over and over and over again, but you keep being stubborn on it - but when some high rate kids were moaning about low adena drop, you increased it by 100 (!) % quite fast...
Pretty much this.
P.S - I know that JUST my opinion does not matter who knows how much in such a case, but I AM for changing the rates of enchanting. It's not that much of differences at the moment or later with the current state, but believe me, when people starts enchanting S grade, we will talk again! :)
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on January 25, 2014, 12:24:50 AM
Point is, im not stuborn or sonething, its just that we tested these rates over and over and believe me reuslts are really low.
^
Quote from: Misato on January 24, 2014, 09:00:02 PM
Its not that hard when there r 2000 ppl trying it, as proved by that screenshot... But well w/e u won't change it so i'll just leave that topic aside.
Edit: Sorry for the double post.
guys
you are forgetting that you wont get easily EWS as you get EWC.
Counting normal drops you are forggeting that treasure box between lvl 40 and lvl 50 have between x4 and x3.3 multiplier on drop rates, while on lvl 78 will be x2, as an example from the chart table drake posted in the changelog update (http://jsfiddle.net/4Xe5x/3/).
so a lvl 51 treasure box (http://lineage.pmfun.com/npc/18275/treasure-chest.html) instead of 1/149 (0,6%) will have 3/149 (2%) of droping a EWC, while a treasure box lvl 78 (http://lineage.pmfun.com/npc/18286/treasure-chest.html) instead of 1/2646 (0.037%) will have 2/2646(0.075%) change of droping EWS.
now about the spoil:
since drake said spoil rate is fixed x3, you just need check the spoil lists:
http://lineage.pmfun.com/item/959/scroll-enchant-weapon-s.html
http://lineage.pmfun.com/item/951/scroll-enchant-weapon-c.html
the mob that got higher spoil rate for EWC is Purgatory invader (http://lineage.pmfun.com/npc/21726/purgatory-invader-elite-soldier.html) with 1/71 (1.4%) that converts into 3/71(4,2%), while most mobs got rates around 3/200 (1.5%).
the mob that got higher drop rate for EWS velociraptor (http://lineage.pmfun.com/npc/22198/velociraptor.html) with 1/617 (0.16%) that converts into 3/617 ( 0.48%), while most mobs got rates around 3/2000 (.015%).
as you can see EWC spoil rate for Tarantula is around 10x higher then EWS. You wont have that high amount of EWS avaliable as you have EWC, so you wont have that many amount of EWS to make so easily ++++ weapons.
And i really doubt you get EWS from Rb very easily with high amounts everyday.
Quote from: Falatko on January 25, 2014, 12:38:12 AM
good joke man did not laugh so long :D
Falatko you are annoying, people here are talking about a very important issue, and you're kidding
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on January 25, 2014, 12:24:50 AM
Until then i wont write about this matter because i cant stand anymore the wave of imaturity here.
I'm sorry i don't usualy answer to this kind of post but just this time i'll say it.
The only immaturity i saw in this topic was from the ppl who don't want the enchant to change saying stuff like "QQ - Cry" and from u when u actualy told me "than should we remove enchants?" so please avoid this kind of comment seriously.
Quote from: ixehren on January 25, 2014, 12:45:03 AM..
Yoo, there is so called market. People can buy EWS from other people. Adena is faster to make, so why won't people sell/buy it? With such strong community, I highly doubt that there will be less than 1 ews each day dropped in the near future.
Quote from: Falatko on January 25, 2014, 12:38:12 AM
good joke man did not laugh so long :D
I think Gicobbe has some videos on youtube where he crit S and S80 grades for 4-9k and kill A grades in 2 sonic rages :)
Since there r no elements, C/B/A grade r just fine, S grade SA's pvp bonus should be like 5% so its not rly that much...
Quote from: Misato on January 25, 2014, 12:54:57 AM
Since there r no elements, C/B/A grade r just fine, S grade SA's pvp bonus should be like 5% so its not rly that much...
Yeh, thank god there are no elements here
Quote from: Falatko on January 25, 2014, 01:32:51 AM
SHOW ME GLAD in interlude not high five freya etc btw I´m a clown
Defo of Teon had +14 Duals S and his average dmg on A-S grades was 3-6k each AOE
On C5
Quote from: Falatko on January 25, 2014, 01:46:48 AM
man dont talk about class that you know sh1t about it please defo did not do 6k aoe on s not even 3k maybe to unbuffed only dude please stop talk
Mr Clown, you are MEGA ANNOYING
dont talk about class that you know sh1t? LOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOOL
Says a random who never played retail, go back to your cave already, you really think that a duelist with high enchanted duals cant do 3k with AOE?
Seriously, I dont have time to explain to you the basics of this game
Mr Clown , If you dont understand shit then dont reply 900 times to something that you simply dont know or cant understand.
You are the
symbol of ignorance
U guys ask for retail enchant rates but forget that after +8 enchant rate goes back to retail like...
Also its not only the enchant rate's fault that we have like 10-15 oe c grade weapons out there... its also the community's fault for selling 1 EWC for 1kk (which u get in half a buff round....)
EWC is just too damn easy to get and also ppl r encouraged to enchant cuz of the high chance on lower enchant like +4 +5 +6 +7 +8 and forget that rates go down after that, or they just dont care cuz it costs them nearly nothing and they will return half the money from crys anyway...
I bet A grades will go tops to +6 +7...at start
BOP + 11
LF more drama
Just ignore the kiddo above and I assure you, you will see much less posts from him.
Quote from: TheBlackPhoenix on January 25, 2014, 02:45:49 AM
So what? I have 5000 posts and you not even 100, but you came and started dumbass flames.
What is wrong with you dude?
Everybody hates you here lol
Stop with this attitude omg
Hahahaha that´s the good thing of playing here as an anonymous!
Everyone thinks they are superior to each other even when they are not right.
It´s a little bit sad but true.
Quote from: Falatko on January 25, 2014, 02:14:42 AM
said some random with 7 posts on forum Nice joke Mr SmartAss sure glad cant hit 3k with aoe on interlude to well equiped players especially here on stacksub :D i played retail and dragon before u were even born now stfu and go back to ur cave /selfowned
Okay...okay..I just made my account in forum after seeing 300000 trash posts about some ppl here and this made my day...
You are the only random here who thinks that a glad cant crit for more than 3k with AOE, I invite u to check some retail videos because It seems you have wasted your life on cheap servers.
Your 328742847244 no-lifer flamer posts doesnt mean your are right..when you are not...
Geez we are talking about a freaking duelist lol seriously i ve seen a duelist crit 20k to a robe and light ppl with a TSS with A and S equip
Enchant rate will not change as:
a) if we change it now, would be extremely unfair for everyone that did not yet enchanted
b) the +6 should be easy for everyone to have a weapon that is in the cap-limit for olympiads
c) over +6 must be a viable option else there would be no reason to try to go over +6/oly_limit (even if is not that easy as many of you claims it. I still dont see the 600 weapons +16 S grade...)
d) maybe we will fix the clientside to have the blue color appear after +7 so you will have less problems
e) please dont forget that having a C weapon +10 is still inferior to an S weapon +10. Having a C+10 doesnt make you skip all other grades.
f) dont forget you can enchant the armor for same amount making the +++ of the weapon go null.
But there is one thing that can/will change and is the spoilrate that, right now, is 200% the announced one (means is 6x instead of 3x) as many was complaining they was outleveling their spoiling.
We will probably drop it to the announced one or apply a dynamic curve to it too (like 6x to 3x, and it would make much more sense)
Quote from: Escaflew on January 24, 2014, 08:11:05 PM
Wasn't the enchanting supposed to be more difficult than, I mean... a bit more challenging..? A week later we see people with red weapons...
(http://puu.sh/6wAXT.jpg)
gz, you now have tallum glaive +3
Quote from: =drake= on January 25, 2014, 12:32:26 PM
Enchant rate will not change as:
a) if we change it now, would be extremely unfair for everyone that did not yet enchanted
b) the +6 should be easy for everyone to have a weapon that is in the cap-limit for olympiads
c) over +6 must be a viable option else there would be no reason to try to go over +6/oly_limit (even if is not that easy as many of you claims it. I still dont see the 600 weapons +16 S grade...)
d) maybe we will fix the clientside to have the blue color appear after +7 so you will have less problems
e) please dont forget that having a C weapon +10 is still inferior to an S weapon +10. Having a C+10 doesnt make you skip all other grades.
f) dont forget you can enchant the armor for same amount making the +++ of the weapon go null.
But there is one thing that can/will change and is the spoilrate that, right now, is 200% the announced one (means is 6x instead of 3x) as many was complaining they was outleveling their spoiling.
We will probably drop it to the announced one or apply a dynamic curve to it too (like 6x to 3x, and it would make much more sense)
Drake leave the colors as they are.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Al15aDmbKPTTdEpNT2xCMGx1OTVDMUtTdFpBczlNVHc&usp=sharing (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Al15aDmbKPTTdEpNT2xCMGx1OTVDMUtTdFpBczlNVHc&usp=sharing)
This is the enchant curve with even calculated chances of progression, enjoy.
Quote from: =drake= on January 25, 2014, 02:00:25 PM
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Al15aDmbKPTTdEpNT2xCMGx1OTVDMUtTdFpBczlNVHc&usp=sharing (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Al15aDmbKPTTdEpNT2xCMGx1OTVDMUtTdFpBczlNVHc&usp=sharing)
This is the enchant curve with even calculated chances of progression, enjoy.
but its not for this server so who rly care. And its only statistic mathematic chance , u got every time 66% chance to sucess and thats how it is.
Quote from: maxiou on January 25, 2014, 05:11:20 PM
but its not for this server so who rly care. And its only statistic mathematic chance , u got every time 66% chance to sucess and thats how it is.
I wrote it and the official curve is the one on Dragon too.
The one with written "Tarantula", guess where is.....
Quote from: maxiou on January 25, 2014, 05:11:20 PM
but its not for this server so who rly care. And its only statistic mathematic chance , u got every time 66% chance to sucess and thats how it is.
U blind or what? It is for this server...
Only? Thats a whole fuking science.
Your cries about red weapons and even +11 and up r unsupported by facts cuz u ask for retail rates but weapons reach retail rates after +8 and after +12 they get even harder so...If u think about it, ure mad just because some1 got lucky
Quote from: =drake= on January 25, 2014, 12:32:26 PM
a) if we change it now, would be extremely unfair for everyone that did not yet enchanted
Increasing adena drop rate was extremely unfair for everyone who farmed and bought items before that.
Decreasing shadow weapon costs was extremely unfair for everyone who bought them for normal price.
Changing spoil rate now would be extremely unfair for everyone who will spoil items after rate drop down.
Changing rules during gameplay is ALWAYS unfair to someone, and it always have been like that on DN since I remembed, but you do it for the greater good, not because of 40 people who made C+12. so it's unfair that you say it's unfair to change enchant rates while many other aspects of the game keep being changed.
Quote from: =drake= on January 25, 2014, 12:32:26 PM
b) the +6 should be easy for everyone to have a weapon that is in the cap-limit for olympiads
What? Why? What a weird conclusion. +7 weapons have always been considered as very highly overenchanted so why it
should be easy? And since +6 is already a cap-limit for olympiad, so why everyone should have it? How is this fair that everyone will be forced to compete with equal weapons even when some will be able to afford something better?
Oh, one more thing: 44% chance to make +6 item - RIDICULOUS. What the hell? +6 armors are supposed to be considered as something unique, something for which we can strive to during gameplay, and not getting it just for the cost of 6 enchants.
Bottomline: current enchanting rates are intended for high rate servers, not ours.
Anyway, thanks for hearing the majority opinion and disregarding it.
Agreed, if Drake screwed something it is the enchants. This would give the server a lollipop theme. When everything is kinda moderately hard to do, why so high safe enchants. I mean dwarfs selling those will be happy, but otherwise.... nah.
And also as it comes to spoil. Please make it so that the spoil rates are related to the mob level not player level. It is ridiculous that I went to spoil CL and I brought back more at lvl 36 then at lvl 40, even tho at 40 with C grade I killed 3x more mobs, my rates have descreased so the RNG got me less yields. And if the mob is blue = no spoil. Thus it cannot be exploited by higher lvl spoilers. easy.
In other words, it gives the server a bad reputation. If I join a server and see people with glowing weapons everywhere, then I will not even bother to play cause there is clearly something wrong going on. On infinity we had 4 red weapons in the game after 2 years of server alive? And half of them were only C grade. How many B or more grades was +8? Another probably less then 10 weapons. Most of the people would never dare to go over +4. And that is how it should be. Lollipops everywhere do no good only bad to the reputation.
It is still time to salvage it. Revert all those who are lets say more then +4 to +4, and compensate people with money based on how high the weapon was. That. Better cut this earlier before it gets rampant.
Quote from: LadyZENITH on January 25, 2014, 07:25:04 PM
Agreed, if Drake screwed something it is the enchants. This would give the server a lollipop theme. When everything is kinda moderately hard to do, why so high safe enchants. I mean dwarfs selling those will be happy, but otherwise.... nah.
And also as it comes to spoil. Please make it so that the spoil rates are related to the mob level not player level. It is ridiculous that I went to spoil CL and I brought back more at lvl 36 then at lvl 40, even tho at 40 with C grade I killed 3x more mobs, my rates have descreased so the RNG got me less yields. And if the mob is blue = no spoil. Thus it cannot be exploited by higher lvl spoilers. easy.
In other words, it gives the server a bad reputation. If I join a server and see people with glowing weapons everywhere, then I will not even bother to play cause there is clearly something wrong going on. On infinity we had 4 red weapons in the game after 2 years of server alive? And half of them were only C grade. How many B or more grades was +8? Another probably less then 10 weapons. Most of the people would never dare to go over +4. And that is how it should be. Lollipops everywhere do no good only bad to the reputation.
It is still time to salvage it. Revert all those who are lets say more then +4 to +4, and compensate people with money based on how high the weapon was. That. Better cut this earlier before it gets rampant.
to be honest, stop QQ that hard. There is higher chance to fail on +11 and higher than "retail-like" system.
Quote from: Painkiler on January 25, 2014, 07:55:48 PM
to be honest, stop QQ that hard. There is higher chance to fail on +11 and higher than "retail-like" system.
Where do u even see him crying? He's barely stating his opinion lol
And yes we have higher chance on +11! 6-7% difference wow big deal... and how about when we get 50% and retail is 33% than? If that 6-7% was important to u i guess that 20% is rly a lot.
Quote from: LadyZENITH on January 25, 2014, 07:25:04 PM
Agreed, if Drake screwed something it is the enchants. This would give the server a lollipop theme. When everything is kinda moderately hard to do, why so high safe enchants. I mean dwarfs selling those will be happy, but otherwise.... nah.
And also as it comes to spoil. Please make it so that the spoil rates are related to the mob level not player level. It is ridiculous that I went to spoil CL and I brought back more at lvl 36 then at lvl 40, even tho at 40 with C grade I killed 3x more mobs, my rates have descreased so the RNG got me less yields. And if the mob is blue = no spoil. Thus it cannot be exploited by higher lvl spoilers. easy.
In other words, it gives the server a bad reputation. If I join a server and see people with glowing weapons everywhere, then I will not even bother to play cause there is clearly something wrong going on. On infinity we had 4 red weapons in the game after 2 years of server alive? And half of them were only C grade. How many B or more grades was +8? Another probably less then 10 weapons. Most of the people would never dare to go over +4. And that is how it should be. Lollipops everywhere do no good only bad to the reputation.
It is still time to salvage it. Revert all those who are lets say more then +4 to +4, and compensate people with money based on how high the weapon was. That. Better cut this earlier before it gets rampant.
Amen. +1
P.S. Gotta love those asslickers who are like "Wooh! Admin/GM is right even if everyone disagree, now let me lick that ass!"
Quote from: Falatko on January 25, 2014, 08:41:11 PM
show me when dragon duelist will crit 20k on S item and i say you are right if not GO FVCK YOURSELF please , played duelist on DN for 5 years, 1 year on RPG , 2 years on official, 1 year High rates/DEX/l2.ru etc so please STFU random wannabe, and AOE duelist on dragon wont do 3k never ever so please mate get ur facts and stop qq
lol double pvp aug+duals S SA OE+ Duelist spirit OE pvp --> 45% extra dmg at pvp
Now seriously,8 years playing this overpowered class and you are still a noob....poor guy.
Quote from: Falatko on January 25, 2014, 11:06:21 PM
said some random wannabe :D 20k :D 20k TSS IMBA OPE NCSoft must nerf this OPe sh1t gladiators
You should re-think what´s your new main class because this is terrible lol