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Title: Spelunking spider's spoil chance
Post by: Sanguchesco on January 30, 2014, 07:04:13 PM
Killed 10 of them and got 2 Dyes and 1 earing part, no CL which is supposed to be the easiest part to get
Title: Re: Spelunking spider's spoil chance
Post by: Sanguchesco on January 30, 2014, 07:05:44 PM
20 and no CL now. I'll be back in 2 hours and see what's your response.
Title: Re: Spelunking spider's spoil chance
Post by: Cromatorus on January 30, 2014, 07:17:47 PM
welcome on dragon not work :p

On server is bilions mobs who dont work like should.. And i mean spoil.
EXAMPLE:
im 20 and i spoil mobs with lvl 26 without any problem ( spoil 100%).
Im 26 lvl and i spoiling this same mobs and......  a lot spoils is empty ( spoil 20%)

This problem got many ppl...

If i got 50 lvli should easy spoils mobs beetwen 45-55lvls....
Title: Re: Spelunking spider's spoil chance
Post by: Sanguchesco on January 30, 2014, 09:32:51 PM
what I'm lf is Track to tell me if the Spelunking Spider's drop and spoil rate is fine according to the chart.
Title: Re: Spelunking spider's spoil chance
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on January 30, 2014, 09:35:55 PM
Quote from: Sanguchesco on January 30, 2014, 09:32:51 PM
what I'm lf is Track to tell me if the Spelunking Spider's drop and spoil rate is fine according to the chart.
What level is your spoiler and which level is the mob?
Title: Re: Spelunking spider's spoil chance
Post by: Cromatorus on January 30, 2014, 10:00:53 PM
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on January 30, 2014, 09:35:55 PM
What level is your spoiler and which level is the mob?

who cares about lvl. if someone got example 61 and mobs 59-60 then spoil is sux...
But if soemone got 55-56  spoil on this same mobs is awesome...

example karnots from GC.
Title: Re: Spelunking spider's spoil chance
Post by: Sanguchesco on January 30, 2014, 10:01:29 PM
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on January 30, 2014, 09:35:55 PM
What level is your spoiler and which level is the mob?
lvl 45 my spoiler lvl 47 the mob
Title: Re: Spelunking spider's spoil chance
Post by: Sanguchesco on January 30, 2014, 10:51:04 PM
BUMP, just to remind you Track about my post,  I really want something done about this, cheers :)
Title: Re: Spelunking spider's spoil chance
Post by: ^Evacuate^ on January 30, 2014, 10:58:50 PM
That mob have not CL on spoil list.
Title: Re: Spelunking spider's spoil chance
Post by: Sanguchesco on January 30, 2014, 11:00:54 PM
Quote from: ^Evacuate^ on January 30, 2014, 10:58:50 PM
That mob have not CL on spoil list.
ok thanks
Title: Re: Spelunking spider's spoil chance
Post by: Sanguchesco on January 30, 2014, 11:02:02 PM
Quote from: ^Evacuate^ on January 30, 2014, 10:58:50 PM
That mob have not CL on spoil list.

http://l2.dropspoil.com/npc/22051/spelunking-spider.html

all the other pages I checked also said this, and the only drop I didn't have from that list was the CL, I think you should check any sources you trust about cl spoil, but I may be mystaken, thanks.
Title: Re: Spelunking spider's spoil chance
Post by: vaiper on January 30, 2014, 11:09:01 PM
Quote from: Sanguchesco on January 30, 2014, 11:02:02 PM
http://l2.dropspoil.com/npc/22051/spelunking-spider.html

all the other pages I checked also said this, and the only drop I didn't have from that list was the CL, I think you should check any sources you trust about cl spoil, but I may be mystaken, thanks.

There are 2 "spelunking xx" mobs, 1 for SOP and other for Cp
Title: Re: Spelunking spider's spoil chance
Post by: ^Evacuate^ on January 30, 2014, 11:09:10 PM
sry you were right,i checked wrong mob.

corpse_make_list={{[crafted_leather];1;1;0.8456};{[earing_of_protection_gemstone];1;1;0.9142};{[dye_s2c2_c];1;1;1.7321}}

i suggest you to try to spoil it whit same lvl skill as mob lvl.
Title: Re: Spelunking spider's spoil chance
Post by: Sanguchesco on January 30, 2014, 11:54:44 PM
Quote from: ^Evacuate^ on January 30, 2014, 10:58:50 PM
That mob have not CL on spoil list.

I'm sorry but "it is in the spoi list ^^ (http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/607/60xs.jpg) Here you can clearly see how I got x3 CL with my spoiler, this would be a fantastic spot if the rates worked as they should.
Title: Re: Spelunking spider's spoil chance
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on January 30, 2014, 11:55:52 PM
Quote from: ^Evacuate^ on January 30, 2014, 11:09:10 PM
sry you were right,i checked wrong mob.

corpse_make_list={{[crafted_leather];1;1;0.8456};{[earing_of_protection_gemstone];1;1;0.9142};{[dye_s2c2_c];1;1;1.7321}}

i suggest you to try to spoil it whit same lvl skill as mob lvl.
Did you read?
Title: Re: Spelunking spider's spoil chance
Post by: Sanguchesco on January 31, 2014, 12:01:21 AM
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on January 30, 2014, 11:55:52 PM
Did you read?
yes I did, after I posted and got lazy to re-edit, anyway, my consurn remains about this mob having way too little chance to drop cl
Title: Re: Spelunking spider's spoil chance
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on January 31, 2014, 12:05:19 AM
Quote from: Sanguchesco on January 31, 2014, 12:01:21 AM
yes I did, after I posted and got lazy to re-edit, anyway, my consurn remains about this mob having way too little chance to drop cl
http://gracia.l2portal.com/gracia/Npc.aspx?ID=22051
Title: Re: Spelunking spider's spoil chance
Post by: Sanguchesco on January 31, 2014, 12:12:15 AM
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on January 31, 2014, 12:05:19 AM
http://gracia.l2portal.com/gracia/Npc.aspx?ID=22051
ok so that's the rates you're using... alright IMO the rate is just too low be that as it may, but if you think it's alright leave it like that.

P.S.: Are you aware that the best option to get CL right now is spoiling golems in cruma tower that are x2 hp and lvl 40? the spot consist of a little room full of those golems, but the problem is that there is only that room with that concentration of cratos, and there's ALWAYS  too many spoilers there so it gets just impossible to a humble spoiler with no full buff or a high lvl nuker to kill the spoilers that dare to hit u back when you pk them
Title: Re: Spelunking spider's spoil chance
Post by: vaiper on January 31, 2014, 12:32:46 AM
Quote from: Sanguchesco on January 31, 2014, 12:12:15 AM
ok so that's the rates you're using... alright IMO the rate is just too low be that as it may, but if you think it's alright leave it like that.

P.S.: Are you aware that the best option to get CL right now is spoiling golems in cruma tower that are x2 hp and lvl 40? the spot consist of a little room full of those golems, but the problem is that there is only that room with that concentration of cratos, and there's ALWAYS  too many spoilers there so it gets just impossible to a humble spoiler with no full buff or a high lvl nuker to kill the spoilers that dare to hit u back when you pk them

There are a lot of better spots than those golems like toi Angels/shamans with almost 1/1 chance and drop 2-3 CL.

But u have to pvp for those spots.
Title: Re: Spelunking spider's spoil chance
Post by: Sanguchesco on January 31, 2014, 12:37:56 AM
YEAH but those are for partys, as I said there's no place for solo players, and this could be it but it's uneven with the rest of the spot, I'm not even asking for 1 mob 1 cl I'm asking 3/4 mobs 1 cl that's not crazy in my opinion
Title: Re: Spelunking spider's spoil chance
Post by: =drake= on January 31, 2014, 12:55:57 AM
The rates the other GM wrote are 1x

the real rates here for THAT level is:
1-3 [crafted_leather] 3.55%
1-2 [earing_of_protection_gemstone] 3.83%
1 [dye_s2c2_c] 7.27%

As you can see they are already MUCH better and quantity higher!
Still, CL, from a 0.8% official, you cant expect to become 25%!!!
The rates at this level are 4.43x, so even with the 6x we had at headstart it wouldnt make any seriously BIG difference at all (now is 3.55%, at that time was 4.8% BUT there was not the 1-3 quantity!!!!)
Title: Re: Spelunking spider's spoil chance
Post by: igi on January 31, 2014, 01:24:09 AM
Quote from: Sanguchesco on January 31, 2014, 12:37:56 AM
YEAH but those are for partys, as I said there's no place for solo players, and this could be it but it's uneven with the rest of the spot, I'm not even asking for 1 mob 1 cl I'm asking 3/4 mobs 1 cl that's not crazy in my opinion
CL has low spoil rate on low lvl cuz its '3rd grade' material, so u cant expect to spoil massive quantities of this material on low lvls.
Why dont u spoil the materials which r needed for crafting CL and craft it afterwards.. (These materials r spoiled much easier on your lvl)
Title: Re: Spelunking spider's spoil chance
Post by: Painkiler on January 31, 2014, 01:36:17 AM
You should put database to view by players, because there is a lot diffrences between ingame database than online databases.
Title: Re: Spelunking spider's spoil chance
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on January 31, 2014, 01:48:30 AM
Quote from: Painkiler on January 31, 2014, 01:36:17 AM
You should put database to view by players, because there is a lot diffrences between ingame database than online databases.
Drake is working on it as i said earlier.
Title: Re: Spelunking spider's spoil chance
Post by: Sanguchesco on January 31, 2014, 05:10:18 AM
So.. Track, if bottom line is that you won't have that mob's rate a little but up, then please lock this so I don't keep checking up on it, otherwise it'd be nice to have it a bit better.
Title: Re: Spelunking spider's spoil chance
Post by: =drake= on January 31, 2014, 06:29:12 AM
http://www.dragon-network.net/drop/npcinfo.php?id=22051&server_id=1&from_level=0

(yes, we monsterfinder up with tarantula data as of right now)

EDIT:
you choosed the WORST mob ever for Crafted Leather. Congratulations!
See here:
http://www.dragon-network.net/drop/iteminfo.php?name=crafted_leather&server_id=1&from_level=0