4 DC for a BEWS? People make +12 weps like they fart, so you want every1 with +16 weps? Nice one...seriously, nice move, you must really need ur money to kill the server this fast:)
bews in donation npc is sad :( The only way to obtain Blessed enchants should be raids and oly IMO
Where do u get this info from?
Quote from: NunoPitbull on February 22, 2014, 01:00:20 PM
4 DC for a BEWS? People make +12 weps like they fart, so you want every1 with +16 weps? Nice one...seriously, nice move, you must really need ur money to kill the server this fast:)
Have u ever take a look at BEW`s enchant rates?!? it`s kind of impossible get it to +16... maybe with 1000 euros :D
lol ppl are u mad? remove blessed enchants.... we dont want star wars serbidor
To everyone knows,as far as i heard,BEWS will have lower chance of enchant
imo they put the wrong price, i hope they are not so retarded, and lol headgears 5dc-bews 4dc.. imo 10-12 dc per bews is just fine
Seriously ? 4dc for bews?
GG ! Welcome back to old DN style .
Donator > than all.
GG , really , good job . You just lost 1/3 of server if nothing change.
Who'll buy hat for 5 dc :D
WTT bunny ears for bews
Quote from: Braskah on February 22, 2014, 01:08:35 PM
Seriously ? 4dc for bews?
GG ! Welcome back to old DN style .
Donator > than all.
GG , really , good job . You just lost 1/3 of server if nothing change.
I Agree in 100%
NO BLESSED ENCHANTS AND SOUL CRYSTALS 13 U JUST KILLED THE MASS PVP FOR RAIDS .....
Maybe GM make a poll and see what the community desire ?
Hope they really wanted 14DC and not FOUR ...
Quote from: Braskah on February 22, 2014, 01:08:35 PM
Seriously ? 4dc for bews?
GG ! Welcome back to old DN style .
Donator > than all.
GG , really , good job . You just lost 1/3 of server if nothing change.
Did you even bothered to read enchant rate of bews before jumping into conclusions?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Al15aDmbKPTTdEpNT2xCMGx1OTVDMUtTdFpBczlNVHc&usp=drive_web#gid=0
Quote from: Blizzer on February 22, 2014, 01:09:35 PM
Who'll buy hat for 5 dc :D
By the definiton, players wanted friendly donation system in order to donate for such things to support server and yet not to brake the gameplay.So there you go donate hat each month different one to support the server.
Anyhow Donation npc or no donation NPC still QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ, even if prices would be all 0 some people would still complain, simply you cant please everyone.
Inform better about things before jumping in rage more.
at least remove the Sould crystals 13. Everyone should work for their SA
Believe me noone is going to donate to make ++++weapons,i been in DN15X with lot of donators i met and believe me they never donated for it...u will see
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 22, 2014, 01:13:19 PM
Did you even bothered to read enchant rate of bews before jumping into conclusions?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Al15aDmbKPTTdEpNT2xCMGx1OTVDMUtTdFpBczlNVHc&usp=drive_web#gid=0
By the definiton, players wanted friendly donation system in order to donate for such things to support server and yet not to brake the gameplay.So there you go donate hat each month different one to support the server.
Anyhow Donation npc or no donation NPC still QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ, even if prices would be all 0 some people would still complain, simply you cant please everyone.
Inform better about things before jumping in rage more.
Dude, its still 50% chance for 4 DC COINS...........>,< there will still be +13/14 easily weps.....
Come. Even if "rates" is low.
Oh i want enchant , donate only 50 euro .
Ohhhh nice i have so many enchant ! Lets go !
Or , buy bews , sell it , get xxxx S weapon + buy normal EWS and here we are ! Star wars !
STOP FUKING CRYING LOOK AT THE TABLE.
http://postimg.org/image/auhi1x1vz/
First thing u all always do is complain motherfreakers
OK.
Let's see :) .
1 month test to see.
Info horn price?
gimme 2 weeks and ill have a +++ bow! I love u gm's
Quote from: Kabally on February 22, 2014, 01:21:41 PM
STOP FUKING CRYING LOOK AT THE TABLE.
http://postimg.org/image/auhi1x1vz/
First thing u all always do is complain motherfreakers
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Al15aDmbKPTTdEpNT2xCMGx1OTVDMUtTdFpBczlNVHc&usp=drive_web#gid=0
Quote from: NunoPitbull on February 22, 2014, 01:18:41 PM
Dude, its still 50% chance for 4 DC COINS...........>,< there will still be +13/14 easily weps.....
40 / 30% after +10! Mate, server have to.pay bills, ppl wont donate if they have no interest in consumables and nobody will.donate if coins have no value ig... Thats a fair donation sistem IMO, no noblesse, no weapons/armors... Servers need $$ to stay alive, and needs it every months... Once every1 sub how can they keep get $$? I think we should be more comprehensive
Btw, money comes and goes! Sorry for u albanian ppl!
Quote from: borde on February 22, 2014, 01:28:50 PM
40 / 30% after +10! Mate, server have to.pay bills, ppl wont donate if they have no interest in consumables and nobody will.donate if coins have no value ig... Thats a fair donation sistem IMO, no noblesse, no weapons/armors... Servers need $$ to stay alive, and needs it every months... Once every1 sub how can they keep get $$? I think we should be more comprehensive
But they said they would donate for hats :) (every month) and now 5dc is high to support it? Vice versa if you ask me
blessed enchant prices are too low, crystal and horn prices are ridiculously high. C'mon 40 coin(eur) for a horn? For 40 eur i can buy a full game, or nearly buy a dual core smartphone from china :DDD
Quote from: TheBlackPhoenix on February 22, 2014, 01:30:51 PM
WTS 50 BEWS
200 euro :o
I tryed to make an homu +7, had to crystalize 10x weapons to do that, about 50 ewc used; i know i was unlucky but yeah if you wanna try enchanting just by donating you will need a good ammount of euro to get +10 or smth. tho if you fail you will need to get ews'..
imo the price should be increased a little bit, maybe not to 10 but at least 6
Quote from: unhandledexeption on February 22, 2014, 01:33:11 PM
blessed enchant prices are too low, crystal and horn prices are ridiculously high. C'mon 40 coin(eur) for a horn? For 40 eur i can buy a full game, or nearly buy a dual core smartphone from china :DDD
it's premium horn, you dont loose exp when you use it, that means if you are sps 76 and you sub you gonna stay 76, wont need to exp again from lvl 40.. thats a pretty good price imo
Donation NPC is up, however donation system still not active. I will have more info about it tonight and its ETA.
Thank you for patience and the support.
P.S Please dont forget to participate tonights event.
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 22, 2014, 01:13:19 PM
By the definiton, players wanted friendly donation system in order to donate for such things to support server and yet not to brake the gameplay.So there you go donate hat each month different one to support the server.
Anyhow Donation npc or no donation NPC still QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ, even if prices would be all 0 some people would still complain, simply you cant please everyone.
Inform better about things before jumping in rage more.
I want only one hat, if assassin bamboo hat is there you can count on my 5 euro xD
Rest I don't mind, never been afraid of red weapons, was a pleasure to kill their owners ::)
Quote from: Blizzer on February 22, 2014, 01:38:58 PM
I want only one hat, if assassin bamboo hat is there you can count on my 5 euro xD
Rest I don't mind, never been afraid of red weapons, was a pleasure to kill their owners ::)
there isnt QQ i think those headgears came on hb+ chronicles; i want my labourer hat
People always qq gtfo seriously you qq for bews and crystal...Keep donny as it is all ok.
DO NOT PM FOR DONATIONS!!!!!!
Im in charge of dragon x15 (High 5 server) donations via PM ~ONLY~
Tarantula donation system will appear on site as automatic donation process, wait for it to be finished as i said in earlier posts.
Thank you
Quote from: TheDeath on February 22, 2014, 01:37:01 PM
it's premium horn, you dont loose exp when you use it, that means if you are sps 76 and you sub you gonna stay 76, wont need to exp again from lvl 40.. thats a pretty good price imo
Still the same. I would pay for example 10 coins for premium and 5 for normal horn. That 40 is a bad joke, even if i earn 10x more in a week, still 40 eur for a small virtual item? :DD
if possible, would be good to add hats from higher chronicles
also to misc items, if possible, add that crap for colored title :P
Quote from: unhandledexeption on February 22, 2014, 01:43:55 PM
Still the same. I would pay for example 10 coins for premium and 5 for normal horn. That 40 is a bad joke, even if i earn 10x more in a week, still 40 eur for a small virtual item? :DD
lol 10 dc for premium and 5 for normal one? Thats too cheap...who would kill cows with that price on horn in donny?
bews too cheap, horn too expensive.
Quote from: stanko on February 22, 2014, 01:45:32 PM
if possible, would be good to add hats from higher chronicles
also to misc items, if possible, add that crap for colored title :P
I can have a look about those hats, but later not now.
Thank you
Quote from: unhandledexeption on February 22, 2014, 01:43:55 PM
Still the same. I would pay for example 10 coins for premium and 5 for normal horn. That 40 is a bad joke, even if i earn 10x more in a week, still 40 eur for a small virtual item? :DD
nice joke. If u cant afford, there is still golky around.
Quote from: VOoDOoT on February 22, 2014, 01:48:29 PM
nice joke. If u cant afford, there is still golky around.
i can afford tens of these horns, but simply not worth the money. The price simply does not corresponds with the usefulness. (fe. im quite sure that that 40 coins will be enough to buy full S gear on markets, or at least top A)
Quote from: unhandledexeption on February 22, 2014, 01:43:55 PM
Still the same. I would pay for example 10 coins for premium and 5 for normal horn. That 40 is a bad joke, even if i earn 10x more in a week, still 40 eur for a small virtual item? :DD
maybe not like 5 and 10 euros, but 10 for normal and 15-20 for premium . 40euro is just too much.
Horn price is fine, ppl should kill golkies for it as it is something what made DN famous. But BEWS for 4 dc? Come on.
Quote from: emissary on February 22, 2014, 01:56:44 PM
maybe not like 5 and 10 euros, but 10 for normal and 15-20 for premium . 40euro is just too much.
That would be considerable yes, but this... but np for me, i aim for the gear, horn is not so hard to get.
Quote from: VOoDOoT on February 22, 2014, 01:48:29 PM
Do not insult people from other servers or ill have to punish you.
Quote from: igi on February 22, 2014, 01:46:47 PM
lol 10 dc for premium and 5 for normal one? Thats too cheap...who would kill cows with that price on horn in donny?
And why should cows killed? Does it makes the world better? Just a simple mob, nothing happens if they don't killed, they will stand there in peace :)
(Trust me, if the horns would be that cheap, still the 70% of players would want to get it from golky)
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 22, 2014, 01:59:02 PM
Do not insult people from other servers or ill have to punish you.
Sure. Reported lik 40 posts and nothing xD
Quote from: Zeelgadees on February 22, 2014, 02:02:34 PM
Sure. Reported lik 40 posts and nothing xD
You report every single post of him, with the last one he endangered the rules, so i warned him same as everyone else (even many times)
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 22, 2014, 02:03:55 PM
You report every single post of him, with the last one he endangered the rules, so i warned him same as everyone else (even many times)
Ok to be honest max 10 posts. Now tell me i repoted every single post again.
About Blessing enchants:
To make it +7 by a Blessed enchant, its the same Rate of Succes that making it with normal enchants to +9.
Test it: Buy a C grade weapow and try doin' it to +9, and check how many times it will fail.
I lost 3 weapows to make 1 at +6 at normal enchants. On Blessed i'd need even more.
It means, there will be a lot of +6 or +7 (most of ppl will stop at +6 for Oly).
But it will be really hard to see +10+ on A, S grades.
About price:
Horn price its OK I think. Maybe it could be 30~35, but its good anyways...
But blessed Enchants are kinda cheap. It should be at least increased by +1 DC.
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 22, 2014, 01:29:54 PM
But they said they would donate for hats :) (every month) and now 5dc is high to support it? Vice versa if you ask me
Hats make server go Jedi, your completly right :) I just vote at least for 6 DC.
Also, jeezus:( U think that rate is low? Please look at how many Jedi weapons already are :)
Quote from: NunoPitbull on February 22, 2014, 02:09:13 PM
Hats make server go Jedi, your completly right :) I just vote at least for 6 DC.
Point is, people will not support server trough hats (sadly but its the truth) or even if they do it will be 5% of them which wont be even close to maintain the server (not to mention that they need to do it every month).
This is as much as possible in balance meaning , and yet allow us (hopefully) to maintain the monthly costs , which by the way went skyrocket (thanks to ddosers and other good intended players and haters)
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 22, 2014, 02:12:41 PM
Point is, people will not support server trough hats (sadly but its the truth) or even if they do it will be 5% of them which wont be even close to maintain the server (not to mention that they need to do it every month).
This is as much as possible in balance meaning , and yet allow us (hopefully) to maintain the monthly costs , which by the way went skyrocket (thanks to ddosers and other good intended players and haters)
Trust me, I really understand you, but let me first ask, 1 euro = 1 DC? And also, maybe if you puted at 6 DC... And the chance its not really that hard, someone donating 30euros easily makes a +8 AM, which IS A BIG DEAL :) Thats my only concern..Easy(even more) jedi weps...
Quote from: NunoPitbull on February 22, 2014, 02:21:00 PM
Trust me, I really understand you, but let me first ask, 1 euro = 1 DC? And also, maybe if you puted at 6 DC... And the chance its not really that hard, someone donating 30euros easily makes a +8 AM, which IS A BIG DEAL :) Thats my only concern..Easy(even more) jedi weps...
+8 is a jedi? Really?
Quote from: NunoPitbull on February 22, 2014, 02:21:00 PM
Trust me, I really understand you, but let me first ask, 1 euro = 1 DC? And also, maybe if you puted at 6 DC... And the chance its not really that hard, someone donating 30euros easily makes a +8 AM, which IS A BIG DEAL :) Thats my only concern..Easy(even more) jedi weps...
hahaha 30euro will make +8 easy? i will pay u 30euro to make my weapon+8, come on, but if u dont succeed u pay the rest from ur own pocket, deal?
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 22, 2014, 02:21:49 PM
+8 is a jedi? Really?
For this EARLY it is, a S wep+8(couting ur donating) vs C/B/A(incomplete sets) jewels, it is. Trust me. You see people with AM +0 on sieges without acumen hiting 2k on hydro blast. Jeez, i wounde rnow(although its to unequiped with C jewels, but you got my point).
WTT AM+ 30 euros for AM +8
Quote from: NunoPitbull on February 22, 2014, 02:26:37 PM
For this EARLY it is, a S wep+8(couting ur donating) vs C/B/A(incomplete sets) jewels, it is. Trust me. You see people with AM +0 on sieges without acumen hiting 2k on hydro blast. Jeez, i wounde rnow(although its to unequiped with C jewels, but you got my point).
kkk buy jewels, u can buy c-grade jwls in luxury u know?
Im not mage so no anti-magic passive on on last godd siege no1 hit me harder than 300 per hit. I think now they will hit for 2k+ yeah!!
Quote from: NunoPitbull on February 22, 2014, 02:26:37 PM
For this EARLY it is, a S wep+8(couting ur donating) vs C/B/A(incomplete sets) jewels, it is. Trust me. You see people with AM +0 on sieges without acumen hiting 2k on hydro blast. Jeez, i wounde rnow(although its to unequiped with C jewels, but you got my point).
U still have to get ur s weapon first! There are definitely more ppl with TTS than ppl with s weap...
Well gms open that thing "stock market" , i assume it will be smth like auction house, and when its opened, put 20% provision, and there is money for costs :D
Quote from: ozyn on February 22, 2014, 02:27:44 PM
WTT AM+ 30 euros for AM +8
i read your posts more than 4 times, guess why
This will be full of +12 weps in less then 2 weeks :).
just a suggestion:
option to see hat ( but also shields from pvp in GoE) like in weapon shop
robin hood, bamboo, afro hair... need to test them before :)
One Quesiton, why is it premium? Is that better than normal horn?!
Quote from: NunoPitbull on February 22, 2014, 03:13:10 PM
This will be full of +12 weps in less then 2 weeks :).
Just because you have +12 weapon doesnt mean you know how to play.
p.s I wonder why no1 thinks of enchanting armor ....
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 22, 2014, 03:28:10 PM
Just because you have +12 weapon doesnt mean you know how to play.
p.s I wonder why no1 thinks of enchanting armor ....
shhhhh dont give them that hint 8)
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 22, 2014, 03:28:10 PM
Just because you have +12 weapon doesnt mean you know how to play.
p.s I wonder why no1 thinks of enchanting armor ....
L2 REQUIRES lot of skill :D
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 22, 2014, 03:28:10 PM
Just because you have +12 weapon doesnt mean you know how to play.
p.s I wonder why no1 thinks of enchanting armor ....
yeah, lets all pay 300euros to make armor get the lvl of defense to fight a +12 wep....everyones rich here. Thats not a valid point.
And yeah, last shadow we had one in our CP who didnt knew how to play too, and still killed 5 alone with +16 even with people on S jewels, so yeah, another valid point there. No matter how you see it, this is ruined now ;) I was going to donate myself too fro some hat, especially bunny ears just to supp the server(although u can get from quest), but not worth the money if im not gonna have fun vs people who will one shot everything with easy donations. And maybe im overreacting, but hey, since server start I told enchant rates were too damn high, for server start, noone cared, and this was star wars on C weps...
Anyways, lets wait and see how it goes :) I won't care anymore since not even Lunargents were added to donny. Instead you puted crys 13 for that price(20), and Horn for 40. iMO Crys 13 should be the hardest, it allows people the edge of hardworking...but yeah...:/ whatever.
Also, dont forget market prices...;)
Quote from: NunoPitbull on February 22, 2014, 03:43:25 PM
yeah, lets all pay 300euros to make armor get the lvl of defense to fight a +12 wep....everyones rich here. Thats not a valid point.
And yeah, last shadow we had one in our CP who didnt knew how to play too, and still killed 5 alone with +16 even with people on S jewels, so yeah, another valid point there. No matter how you see it, this is ruined now ;) I was going to donate myself too fro some hat, especially bunny ears just to supp the server(although u can get from quest), but not worth the money if im not gonna have fun vs people who will one shot everything with easy donations. And maybe im overreacting, but hey, since server start I told enchant rates were too damn high, for server start, noone cared, and this was star wars on C weps...
Anyways, lets wait and see how it goes :) I won't care anymore since not even Lunargents were added to donny. Instead you puted crys 13 for that price(20), and Horn for 40. iMO Crys 13 should be the hardest, it allows people the edge of hardworking...but yeah...:/ whatever.
Also, dont forget market prices...;)
i would say 30 for 13 and 20 for normal horn,30 for premium one would be fair(since you need 4x of them to complete one char,if you want 4 stacksub in one).
I would put class marks also ,first,second also can be third as well.
Quote from: NunoPitbull on February 22, 2014, 03:43:25 PM
yeah, lets all pay 300euros to make armor get the lvl of defense to fight a +12 wep....everyones rich here. Thats not a valid point.
And yeah, last shadow we had one in our CP who didnt knew how to play too, and still killed 5 alone with +16 even with people on S jewels, so yeah, another valid point there. No matter how you see it, this is ruined now ;) I was going to donate myself too fro some hat, especially bunny ears just to supp the server(although u can get from quest), but not worth the money if im not gonna have fun vs people who will one shot everything with easy donations. And maybe im overreacting, but hey, since server start I told enchant rates were too damn high, for server start, noone cared, and this was star wars on C weps...
Anyways, lets wait and see how it goes :) I won't care anymore since not even Lunargents were added to donny. Instead you puted crys 13 for that price(20), and Horn for 40. iMO Crys 13 should be the hardest, it allows people the edge of hardworking...but yeah...:/ whatever.
Also, dont forget market prices...;)
Don't quite see why the hell you make such a big deal of it. The enchant rate is terrible and if they wanna spend their money on a game let them. Having good gear doesn't mean you are a good pvper all of a sudden. The fact that your friend who had a +16 weapon killed atleast 5 with S grade jewels doesn't mean a damn thing. There is always a well known fact: Skill > gear. It is how it is get over it, don't like it, leave.
Quote from: TheBlackPhoenix on February 22, 2014, 03:47:28 PM
Read PREMIUM HORN description... You don't loose exp... That is >>>>> normal horn
yep, but still the price is too high compared to other stuff you can buy at donny's. If there is a premium horn, there should also be a normal one :) I was considering buying horn from donation manager, but seeing prices for it made me reconsider.
Quote from: emissary on February 22, 2014, 03:54:13 PM
yep, but still the price is too high compared to other stuff you can buy at donny's. If there is a premium horn, there should also be a normal one :) I was considering buying horn from donation manager, but seeing prices for it made me reconsider.
You can donate and buy normal horn in the market for coins.
We didnt want to add normal horn to avoid the depreciaton
Hats price 5â,¬ - Fair price, exactly how it should be.
Premium Horn 40â,¬ - Fair, at least we won't see 80% of community subbed right after donations start.
Normal Horn ??â,¬ - Where is it? :( I kinda wanted to get this one over the premium one, just to learn to play the sub combo better. Therefore question here for GMs - is there a chance to put normal Horn on Donny too, let's say for 30â,¬?
BEWS, Cry 13 - That's the part which made me sad, like the most of people. I always said that enchant rates are jedi-high, but some were repeating over and over "you moron! EWS will be very hard to get, nobody will have OE weapon S for long time" and here we go. Say what you want, but give it a while and there will be dozens of 10++ S weapons, just like now are shittons of Homus 12++.
Pretty please take away EWS, BEWS, Cry 13 from Donny. :'(
Either way, waiting for donation system start.
Donation system is not even available so prices could still change before we accept donations.
And most important... no one still said how much is worth 1 coin ;)
Quote from: =drake= on February 22, 2014, 04:51:40 PM
Donation system is not even available so prices could still change before we accept donations.
And most important... no one still said how much is worth 1 coin ;)
atm ~10-15kk per coin ^^
Reconsider donations again, you remenber Shadow? Best substack server i played, awesome comunity... guess what? Donations killed it! Dont do the same here, you have a nice server, good comunity. There's is another things you can put on donny few people gave some ideias.
Remove crys 13 and enchants from donny, this will kill server. If we would want to play star wars we would go to a high rate server !!
Quote from: =drake= on February 22, 2014, 04:51:40 PM
Donation system is not even available so prices could still change before we accept donations.
And most important... no one still said how much is worth 1 coin ;)
waiting for info then :) everyone, or at least ppl i spoke to, said 1 coin would be 1 euro. If so, prices need to be changed. Hopefuly there will be an information regarding donation prices and final items very soon :)
People always qq it's like fokin cancer spreading with no control.
Bews and crystal prices are ok how they are atm.Wtf you don't got armors/jewels/custom sh1ts at donny and you qq now about enchants and crystals seriously?Drake should remove this donny and put the donny from dnx15 than I want to see ppl qq.Dafaq!
Drake Track stop listening to all qqer's.Like you guys said you can't make all happy it's like fokin cancer already with this all qq's in every topic.Blessed enchants and crystals will kill server ? lmfao you don't even got 5% s weapons on server... without counting braking them by enchanting and you qq.You think s weapons and armors will be many like c grade ones on server lal ;D
This will lead to the same disaster it was after donations! Not only Shadow but Dragon also.
Lets be realistic server is on his Maximum, its not like you get 50 new players per day. Few ppl join server thinking its a 10x normal server, they go giran and see woot +8/10 weapons around, instantly loose will to play.
Want crys 13? Go kill raids that lvl it or buy from market. Want enchants? Go kill raids or buy from market. This will take the purpose of killing raids, why? Because they get it easy from donny, why bother camping them. Less pvp, no pvp = ppl quit. You will loose more than earn with this donations, just saying.
Quote from: PunkeD on February 22, 2014, 05:12:49 PM
This will lead to the same disaster it was after donations! Not only Shadow but Dragon also.
Lets be realistic server is on his Maximum, its not like you get 50 new players per day. Few ppl join server thinking its a 10x normal server, they go giran and see woot +8/10 weapons around, instantly loose will to play.
Want crys 13? Go kill raids that lvl it or buy from market. Want enchants? Go kill raids or buy from market. This will take the purpose of killing raids, why? Because they get it easy from donny, why bother camping them. Less pvp, no pvp = ppl quit. You will loose more than earn with this donations, just saying.
And on what you will put those enchants ? on Horn?
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 22, 2014, 05:15:27 PM
And on what you will put those enchants ? on Horn?
That's even worse..
Putting S grade weapon/armor to donny would lead to a more balanced server.
Putting enchants will just lead to OE S grade stuff :)
And..you have to spend like 7-8x(?) more enchants on your armor than on a weapon.So don't come with the "why don't you enchant your armors" thingy.
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 22, 2014, 05:15:27 PM
And on what you will put those enchants ? on Horn?
To pvp obviously. The Horn is ok. But enchants/crys...not really. Im totally against it but if you want to put it, put it expensive. People dont want a start wars server its only that. To have a chance vs those OE weapons/armos you will have to donate also and its here you start losing players.
Quote from: mlhungary8 on February 22, 2014, 05:21:16 PM
That's even worse..
Putting S grade weapon/armor to donny would lead to a more balanced server.
Putting enchants will just lead to OE S grade stuff :)
And..you have to spend like 7-8x(?) more enchants on your armor than on a weapon.So don't come with the "why don't you enchant your armors" thingy.
Good point, rather have S weapons/armor on donny than having Crys/Enchants.
Quote from: mlhungary8 on February 22, 2014, 05:21:16 PM
That's even worse..
Putting S grade weapon/armor to donny would lead to a more balanced server.
Putting enchants will just lead to OE S grade stuff :)
And..you have to spend like 7-8x(?) more enchants on your armor than on a weapon.So don't come with the "why don't you enchant your armors" thingy.
Quote from: PunkeD on February 22, 2014, 05:29:40 PM
To pvp obviously. The Horn is ok. But enchants/crys...not really. Im totally against it but if you want to put it, put it expensive. People dont want a start wars server its only that. To have a chance vs those OE weapons/armos you will have to donate also and its here you start losing players.
Quote from: PunkeD on February 22, 2014, 05:31:46 PM
Good point, rather have S weapons/armor on donny than having Crys/Enchants.
You all didnt got my point, i said on what you will put those enchants from donation NPC since we dont have (and will not have ) weapons and armors on donation npc. Someone has to craft them and that process isnt 1 click you know... I hope you understand more clearly.
And PS if someone wants to leave a server just because he sees a XX weapon then he shouldnt even bother playing l2.
Quote from: TheBlackPhoenix on February 22, 2014, 03:06:15 PM
Coz you can't read?
it's coz he got you mother stripping in his signature, ritardato
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 22, 2014, 05:33:33 PM
You all didnt got my point, i said on what you will put those enchants from donation NPC since we dont have (and will not have ) weapons and armors on donation npc. Someone has to craft them and that process isnt 1 click you know... I hope you understand more clearly.
And PS if someone wants to leave a server just because he sees a XX weapon then he shouldnt even bother playing l2.
Trust me, I got your point, you just missed mine.
I know that you must make S grade stuff ingame so you can use those enchants.
But which way will lead to more unbalance/QQ?
If a very low part of server will have S grade and possibility to enchant them OR if people "who have family and less time to play" are able to purchase their S grade stuff.
Yup, this way is perfect for you, coz people who can't spend big amount of time ingame, will have to donate something else to buy S grade items AND also donate for enchants if they want to catch up.
I'm not saying that you should put weapons/armors to Donny, you shouldn't.
But that still would be a better option than the one we actually have.
Long term >>> short term
There are full oe weapons on L2 official and all enchants in shops... you saw that server fail? And you can't compare official economy with tarantula one.So empty words.All predict here.... like they all are oracles.... "matrix"? dafaq!
And for your info to make oe S grade weapons you need many s weapons so make count how many s weapons you need on server for all people lal.
I want to see you qq when you will shout for 1 month wtb am db cause you can't find 1 on server and you guys qq about blessed enchants lal.
Quote from: mlhungary8 on February 22, 2014, 05:44:58 PM
people "who have family and less time to play"
people who have less time to play shouldnt expect to be equally geared as people who have lots of time.
Quote from: Zeelgadees on February 22, 2014, 02:04:54 PM
Ok to be honest max 10 posts. Now tell me i repoted every single post again.
lol u report me? u must be really sad IRL
Sorry for double post, didn't want to edit the previous one.
And trust me, I was very active since I play here so I'm not saying all these coz I'd like to take benefit from it. I'd be happy if there would be no Donny at all. I know that can't happen, but donation should be a choice and feedback for your great work and not an option(only option for some) to get top stuff ingame.
Quote from: pmkaboo on February 22, 2014, 05:49:02 PM
people who have less time to play shouldnt expect to be equally geared as people who have lots of time.
And they will never be unless donation allows them.
Quote from: VOoDOoT on February 22, 2014, 05:49:14 PM
lol u report me? u must be really sad IRL
mb he's just bored to read your shit everywhere.
cry 13 is good , in future dont be that hard get a 13 , right now would be a hard thing maybe
BEWS is a joke coomon change it please. Better , remove BEWS ppl would donate for ews, horn, crystals. , BEWS would be gained for Raid bosses
u dont want put recipes a grade or weapons but put BEWS?
Quote from: reddragonjr on February 22, 2014, 05:46:51 PM
There are full oe weapons on L2 official and all enchants in shops... you saw that server fail?
Yes i do. Official is a big fail, full of bots, old players left it, and others too, that's why it become f2p, to attract new players.
And by the way, the off servers are 11 years old... they had plenty of time to enchant, of course there is a lot of oe there.
You could add Lunargents to GMshop, you could add nick changes/color nicks/etc, put comon, BEWS for 4 DC Coins??? even hats are more expensive lol.
And drake, you said you didnt said how much is worth 1 DC (meaning that if its worth 2 euros, horn will be 80 euros?) And OFC, why not normal horn on donny? lower it a bit in compareced to premium horn and u get alot of donations for that too.
You need to think about carefully about prices. Alot of people I know are already considering on leaving. They work hard to crys 13, and now they are at donny for such a low price, in which in IL case is the last item u get, S wep with acu/focus/w.e.
Think carefully, don't be greedy in short term, or you'll kill the server with Donations. Better get rich slowly then get money in 1 month and dont get nothing after.
ALSO another IMPORTANT thing, this is the begining of the SERVER, not 1 year server. With BEWS like that your giving MONEY PEOPLE the oputurnity to have mroe stuff then the working ones. If this was added later when people had some farm already, wouldn't cause that much impact. Think about it aswell.
Quote from: NunoPitbull on February 22, 2014, 05:58:21 PM
You could add Lunargents to GMshop, you could add nick changes/color nicks/etc, put comon, BEWS for 4 DC Coins??? even hats are more expensive lol.
And drake, you said you didnt said how much is worth 1 DC (meaning that if its worth 2 euros, horn will be 80 euros?) And OFC, why not normal horn on donny? lower it a bit in compareced to premium horn and u get alot of donations for that too.
You need to think about carefully about prices. Alot of people I know are already considering on leaving. They work hard to crys 13, and now they are at donny for such a low price, in which in IL case is the last item u get, S wep with acu/focus/w.e.
Think carefully, don't be greedy in short term, or you'll kill the server with Donations. Better get rich slowly then get money in 1 month and dont get nothing after.
ALSO another IMPORTANT thing, this is the begining of the SERVER, not 1 year server. With BEWS like that your giving MONEY PEOPLE the oputurnity to have mroe stuff then the working ones. If this was added later when people had some farm already, wouldn't cause that much impact. Think about it aswell.
cu bro
Quote from: NunoPitbull on February 22, 2014, 05:58:21 PM
You could add Lunargents to GMshop, you could add nick changes/color nicks/etc, put comon, BEWS for 4 DC Coins??? even hats are more expensive lol.
And drake, you said you didnt said how much is worth 1 DC (meaning that if its worth 2 euros, horn will be 80 euros?) And OFC, why not normal horn on donny? lower it a bit in compareced to premium horn and u get alot of donations for that too.
You need to think about carefully about prices. Alot of people I know are already considering on leaving. They work hard to crys 13, and now they are at donny for such a low price, in which in IL case is the last item u get, S wep with acu/focus/w.e.
Think carefully, don't be greedy in short term, or you'll kill the server with Donations. Better get rich slowly then get money in 1 month and dont get nothing after.
ALSO another IMPORTANT thing, this is the begining of the SERVER, not 1 year server. With BEWS like that your giving MONEY PEOPLE the oputurnity to have mroe stuff then the working ones. If this was added later when people had some farm already, wouldn't cause that much impact. Think about it aswell.
By looking our donation npc we are greedy? Damn man, i dont know if you are seeing correctly than. Donations are extremely fair for everyone. And do i have to remind you AGAIN, there are no weapons nor armors at donation manager, so do your calculation how "easy" is to enchant anything. Game is not about enchanting , there are so many things that makes market moving and there are so many things that you can sell on market and earn your money.
And as i said earlier , if anyone will leave server because he sees enchanted items then he is definitely playing wrong game because there is no server out there who doesn't have enchanted weapons, if you think is easy, go ahead make 1. Ups wait, you cant, you have to craft it 1st, then if it brakes Q_Q start from 0.
Good luck
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 22, 2014, 06:27:48 PM
By looking our donation npc we are greedy? Damn man, i dont know if you are seeing correctly than. Donations are extremely fair for everyone. And do i have to remind you AGAIN, there are no weapons nor armors at donation manager, so do your calculation how "easy" is to enchant anything. Game is not about enchanting , there are so many things that makes market moving and there are so many things that you can sell on market and earn your money.
And as i said earlier , if anyone will leave server because he sees enchanted items then he is definitely playing wrong game because there is no server out there who doesn't have enchanted weapons, if you think is easy, go ahead make 1. Ups wait, you cant, you have to craft it 1st, then if it brakes Q_Q start from 0.
Good luck
Damn, its so hard to craft an AM or DB, jeezus. And it only takes more time WHILE your not with a AM equiped, when people get S will be easy to spoil etc faster, tahts why im saying its TOO SOON to put BEWS even more for that low price. Yet again, I would prefer Wep and armor recipes at donny and the bews frmo rbs only. That would be better :)
normal S grade armors, and weapons (not the dnet op shits, but simple draco, ic, and others), (and by the way the donateable nobless) would have far less impact on server, than the blessed enchants have alone.
Quote from: unhandledexeption on February 22, 2014, 06:35:42 PM
normal S grade armors, and weapons (not the dnet op shits, but simple draco, ic, and others), (and by the way the donateable nobless) would have far less impact on server, than the blessed enchants have alone.
Indeed.
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 22, 2014, 05:33:33 PM
You all didnt got my point, i said on what you will put those enchants from donation NPC since we dont have (and will not have ) weapons and armors on donation npc. Someone has to craft them and that process isnt 1 click you know... I hope you understand more clearly.
And PS if someone wants to leave a server just because he sees a XX weapon then he shouldnt even bother playing l2.
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Ofc, if you put this affair I'm just wasting time here
Quote from: lFreak on February 22, 2014, 07:15:32 PM
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Im curious how did you understand it? Because everyone have equal chances to make their weapons and armors. In the end why NCSoft made enchanting in 1st place if is so problematic?
Quote from: unhandledexeption on February 22, 2014, 06:35:42 PM
normal S grade armors, and weapons (not the dnet op shits, but simple draco, ic, and others), (and by the way the donateable nobless) would have far less impact on server, than the blessed enchants have alone.
What makes you think that? Imagine peoples running around in S grade set with weapons + jewels vs non-donators who are still running in C grade? Atleast now they first have to farm to achieve the S grade weapons and then, with a low possibility, they can enchant.
Quote from: NBD on February 22, 2014, 07:25:09 PM
What makes you think that? Imagine peoples running around in S grade set with weapons + jewels vs non-donators who are still running in C grade? Atleast now they first have to farm to achieve the S grade weapons and then, with a low possibility, they can enchant.
This doesn't needs imagination. It happens now. Nolifer 24/7 players/clans have top A gear (will have S in a month), normal players mostly running around in C grade.
Well when u think about it +16 s grade weapon would cost u 61 euro if u bought all enchants from Donny (saying u succeeded from first try ;) )
Quote from: unhandledexeption on February 22, 2014, 05:54:56 PM
Yes i do. Official is a big fail, full of bots, old players left it, and others too, that's why it become f2p, to attract new players.
And by the way, the off servers are 11 years old... they had plenty of time to enchant, of course there is a lot of oe there.
Dude you read my post? I'm talking about official L2 God = Goddes Of Destruction and it's 2 years old and all started from 0.What 11 years you dream dunno.
Quote from: Falatko on February 22, 2014, 08:50:37 PM
i would stop post at all if i would be u :D man u and ur totall bullsh1t :D come on srsly
WTB math skills? ;)
Quote from: Falatko on February 22, 2014, 09:46:06 PM
LF Enchant Rate Education?
hahah ok let me edit the post so u your undeveloped brain can process it better.
Quote from: Falatko on February 22, 2014, 10:00:58 PM
let me fix you brain ,, hmm , something is different, oh, brain is missing, enchant from 1 - 16 is 100% success rate from first OH fast drake put donations on i need like 4 weapons +16
The stupidity in this one is strong :)
Every village has its village idiot and also every forum has its forum idiot
gz Falatkom hey.. at least ure famous xD