Poll
Question:
ban time for bots
Option 1: like now (prema)
votes: 67
Option 2: like dragon (time ban)
votes: 24
what u think imo bots keep server alive, best time of x15 was a walker time, bots = better eco = more players = more ppl to slay. Bots in death location (spoil, exp) are harmless. Lets the war beggin
perma to main account and problem solved!
tbh, best fun in old dragon was bot parties pvp in fog ;)
Quote from: Painkiler on May 03, 2014, 11:55:04 AM
tbh, best fun in old dragon was bot parties pvp in fog ;)
best fun, really? I am wondering what are you doing here if your most enjoyable activity is not that popular here
Also im wondering, if you dont wanna play and just watch your PC doing the job, da faq you are doing here go watch some gameplayes in YT.
PERMA BAN on all accounts related to walker account, there is no harm in loosing some game lags by banning bots parties :-)
Quote from: lol on May 03, 2014, 11:59:54 AM
best fun, really? I am wondering what are you doing here if your most enjoyable activity is not that popular here
Obviously, i can find fun here without bot too. These times won't back, because there is no S grade rec spoil, no frenzy+totem working, and gm's r punishing bots.
PS: seems u didn't play on x15 these times, so don't speak about it.
voted for temporary ban, only because the current bot detection is not foolproof and innocent people are getting banned.
Quote from: Painkiler on May 03, 2014, 12:03:45 PM
Obviously, i can find fun here without bot too. These times won't back, because there is no S grade rec spoil, no frenzy+totem working, and gm's r punishing bots.
PS: seems u didn't play on x15 these times, so don't speak about it.
Dont you think 150kk for any S grade boots/gloves/helm and some more for breastplates is not that much? Would it be better if everyone would craft tens of them and price would be like 40kk?
Obviously you dont know me, dont know where and when I was playing so stop telling me what and where i can write.
I had 3x destro/tyrs for all rbs level ranges in nightmare and had my daily routine with killing them, is this good tyr/destro is not longer number 1, and the only in rb party? Think and tell yourself.
Quote from: lol on May 03, 2014, 12:12:56 PM
Dont you think 150kk for any S grade boots/gloves/helm and some more for breastplates is not that much? Would it be better if everyone would craft tens of them and price would be like 40kk?
Obviously you dont know me, dont know where and when I was playing so stop telling me what and where i can write.
I had 3x destro/tyrs for all rbs level ranges in nightmare and had my daily routine with killing them, is this good tyr/destro is not longer number 1, and the only in rb party? Think and tell yourself.
Look like u didn't know dragon x15 economy these times, u don't get my point also, but w/e, live ur own life.
Quote from: TheBlackPhoenix on May 03, 2014, 12:14:28 PM
just lol
what u dont remember old x15 times? that was more fun than now
time ban 1st catch using bot
more time ban if 2nd catch using bot
perma ban at 3rd catch using bot
Quote from: l33thax on May 03, 2014, 11:35:37 AM
what u think imo bots keep server alive
Er meh gerd...
Go play official ffs, see how "alive" the bots are keeping the servers... LMAO, try to kill ONE-SINGLE-MOB in Antharas' Lair, please take a screenshot if you manage to kill one because that is last mob you'll ever kill in that server.
You've NO IDEA what it means to play with HORDES of bots and spambots, Dragon Network never had a high number of bots and is still the best pvt server.
By the way, in Korea, Lineage 2 is the most played MMO and there're no bots on Korean servers at all, if there's something that's keeping Lineage 2 alive, that SURELY is NOT the bots.
PERMA BAN the scum.
Quote from: LeonidaSUX on May 04, 2014, 06:18:35 PM
By the way, in Korea, Lineage 2 is the most played MMO and there're no bots on Korean servers at all, if there's something that's keeping Lineage 2 alive, that SURELY is NOT the bots.
uhm u are totally wrong on this point.....
Korean are made to play with bots, its why u have a market for adena/RL money with daily update.....
Quote from: l33thax on May 03, 2014, 11:35:37 AM
what u think imo bots keep server alive, best time of x15 was a walker time, bots = better eco = more players = more ppl to slay. Bots in death location (spoil, exp) are harmless. Lets the war beggin
best solution was ^Piccy^ rule:
1 - 360h
2 - 720h
3 perma
some old "bans" was very controversial and if someone get 1 ban leter dont risk on this char.
How can one tolerate bots and think of easing a punishment for using it?!
The reason can be one: someone was using/is using/plans to use bot.
If GM is one hundred percent certain (and not a percent less than that) that chracter is set on bot, punishment should definetely be perma ban. (plus preferably MAC ban)
Additionally 50-100e one time Second Chance service to unban a character - sure, let the botter support the server if would lost an important character.
To the previous ideas:
Perma ban on 3rd offence? You sirs must be joking. If I would consider using a bot, I would definetely go for it, because why not? If I was catched, I would just be jailed (on a single chracter) for a while and after that enjoy the superior farm I made while sleeping.
It is already way too easy, I mean, lv28 dwarf: 30 mins. Set up on bot: 10 mins. If not getting caught for ~8 hours: Profit. If caught? Permaban on a lv28 dwarf? zomg -2kk if using D weap. It is pathetic already, don't let more of these shits in the server. I'd rather play with 500 players + 50 bots, than with 1000 players + 5000 bots.
Quote from: loXol on May 04, 2014, 08:14:23 PM
uhm u are totally wrong on this point.....
Korean are made to play with bots, its why u have a market for adena/RL money with daily update.....
What?! you've no idea how it works in Korea, there're no second chances and if you want to go around a ban, you've to use a fake ID which, if caught, means prison IRL. You cannot make 10k accounts and log in bot trains, because each L2 account requires unique and valid person IDs, but I guess you guys just want to start a RMT business here on Dragon Network because you don't have a job/something like that, or am I wrong? just asking.
Quote from: Zibo on May 04, 2014, 11:03:37 PM
To the previous ideas:
Perma ban on 3rd offence? You sirs must be joking. If I would consider using a bot, I would definetely go for it, because why not? If I was catched, I would just be jailed (on a single chracter) for a while and after that enjoy the superior farm I made while sleeping.
its not joke. In old times x5 leter x20 works that and all was happy from this rule.
Prolly u play on x15 and believe me x5 and x15 is really big diffrence.
Anyway in this time most ppl use bot only for fishing/xp/manor/aa
Quote from: Cromatorus on May 05, 2014, 10:15:58 AM
most ppl use bot only for fishing/xp/manor/aa/PvP/RMT
Fixed.
Quote from: TheBlackPhoenix on May 05, 2014, 03:34:11 PM
I can do whaterver i want with a bot
oh well that's a given ;)
if ppl wanna use bot sure go headed and if gm catch you, the gm should not ban the walkers user char but instead ban his main char for like
1 - 720h
2 - perma
3 - no 3rd chance
like this he or she if main char ban he or she will think 2 times about cheating again.
Quote from: OsirisDl on May 05, 2014, 06:18:48 PM
if ppl wanna use bot sure go headed and if gm catch you, the gm should not ban the walkers user char but instead ban his main char for like
1 - 720h
2 - perma
3 - no 3rd chance
like this he or she if main char ban he or she will think 2 times about cheating again.
If you give them a second chance, what will stop them from sending/selling to another char all the stuff farmed before they got banned? time-ban is useless, char+account deletion would be much more effective, if you really don't wanna perma ben them, but perma is still the best solution ever, why would someone need to use walkers on a pvt server? there's official for that.
Quote from: LeonidaSUX on May 05, 2014, 09:12:56 PM
If you give them a second chance, what will stop them from sending/selling to another char all the stuff farmed before they got banned? time-ban is useless, char+account deletion would be much more effective, if you really don't wanna perma ben them, but perma is still the best solution ever, why would someone need to use walkers on a pvt server? there's official for that.
Good points, so I guess I didn't think like that
Quote from: OsirisDl on May 05, 2014, 06:18:48 PM
if ppl wanna use bot sure go headed and if gm catch you, the gm should not ban the walkers user char but instead ban his main char for like
1 - 720h
2 - perma
3 - no 3rd chance
like this he or she if main char ban he or she will think 2 times about cheating again.
This rule was good when ^Piccy^ was GM. IT was only one GM with real sixt sense and his ban always was good and with good proofs. I got even get ban from him but i deserved for this ( and ppl on server out horn for 2 weeks xD ).
Quote from: Cromatorus on May 04, 2014, 08:56:12 PM
best solution was ^Piccy^ rule:
1 - 360h
2 - 720h
3 perma
+++++