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Title: Good job!
Post by: __Metallica__ on December 02, 2014, 02:34:50 AM
Very nice of you guys, to implement that no substuck server. It will be fun, I can sense it. Wishing you all the best, and good luck.
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on December 02, 2014, 02:36:20 AM
Quote from: __Metallica__ on December 02, 2014, 02:34:50 AM
Very nice of you guys, to implement that no substuck server. It will be fun, I can sense it. Wishing you all the best, and good luck.
Thank you for the support Berty! We will be seeing you in game!
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: __Metallica__ on December 02, 2014, 02:36:44 AM
Already downloaded Hellbound  8)

http://www.zamunda.net/download.php/129670/Lineage%20II%20Hellbound.torrent (http://www.zamunda.net/download.php/129670/Lineage%20II%20Hellbound.torrent)

Dunno if this link will work in other countries. But it's good client.
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: Alannah on December 02, 2014, 02:55:20 AM
It's good to see positive feedbacks :) gives a boost to work.
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: UngO on December 02, 2014, 05:55:03 AM
too bad it isnt iterlude :( i would definetly give it chance again...hb brings atribute system which i rly dont like
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: hackerslav on December 02, 2014, 06:32:58 AM
Quote from: __Metallica__ on December 02, 2014, 02:34:50 AM
Very nice of you guys, to implement that no substuck server. It will be fun, I can sense it. Wishing you all the best, and good luck.

+1

nice idea! i will check new servers!
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: tyrrande on December 02, 2014, 10:53:49 AM
Quote from: UngO on December 02, 2014, 05:55:03 AM
too bad it isnt iterlude :( i would definetly give it chance again...hb brings atribute system which i rly dont like

^^ this. Well good luck with new servers, i dont think its right way to bring players (will be again just a question of few months when the population will decrease again) but i dont see any other option so i wish u luck Track :) If u dont mind i ll give u a serious advice: Dont do any dynamic rates at all, i recommend u to delete Vitality from both new servers + seriously think about spoil and drop rates. At last spoil rate should be significantly higher then on tarantula. Since hellbound brings only new farm (everyone had to farm HB for dynasty sets and we all know how many items needed) people will do more farm like mad. U cant loose the PVP part here or u loose players again so dont let ppl farm long time or it ll be screwed again.

With reg, Tyrr
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on December 02, 2014, 10:59:05 AM
Quote from: tyrrande on December 02, 2014, 10:53:49 AM
^^ this. Well good luck with new servers, i dont think its right way to bring players (will be again just a question of few months when the population will decrease again) but i dont see any other option so i wish u luck Track :) If u dont mind i ll give u a serious advice: Dont do any dynamic rates at all, i recommend u to delete Vitality from both new servers + seriously think about spoil and drop rates. At last spoil rate should be significantly higher then on tarantula. Since hellbound brings only new farm (everyone had to farm HB for dynasty sets and we all know how many items needed) people will do more farm like mad. U cant loose the PVP part here or u loose players again so dont let ppl farm long time or it ll be screwed again.

With reg, Tyrr
Thank you for the good words Tyrr!

Exp rates will be just fine (15x; you should at least read the description), in addition we will have runes to boost rates to some +% for those who dont have much free time to farm but still to be able to respond to "no life" players.

Thank you again !
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: trippledouble on December 02, 2014, 11:36:55 AM
mi like it.
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: dabird1980 on December 02, 2014, 11:47:41 AM
i really dont know wich server i will join (hb or titan) anyone can explain me the most important difference between the servers?
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on December 02, 2014, 12:05:12 PM
Quote from: dabird1980 on December 02, 2014, 11:47:41 AM
i really dont know wich server i will join (hb or titan) anyone can explain me the most important difference between the servers?
Hello,

I think most easiest way to explain you is :
1)HB
http://legacy.lineage2.com/news/hellbound_01.html

2)H5
http://legacy.lineage2.com/news/highfive_01.html

Its like 5 "chronicle" difference.
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: dabird1980 on December 02, 2014, 12:14:25 PM
thanks, i think i will give it a try on hb, sounds great and i think this way there will be more balance on the server .
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: trippledouble on December 02, 2014, 02:00:51 PM
Just a question. Is the 1st,2nd and 3rd prof gonna be for free like on h5 one?

Ps. I'm really excited about this server and i must admit that i'm also very pleased that you've learned your lesson from tarantula and made a pretty nice features right here. Keep up the good work Track.

Ps2. Dont ban anymore accounts of mine anymore plx
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: trippledouble on December 02, 2014, 02:08:38 PM
Quote from: trippledouble on December 02, 2014, 02:00:51 PM
Just a question. Is the 1st,2nd and 3rd prof gonna be for free like on h5 one?

Ps. I'm really excited about this server and i must admit that i'm also very pleased that you've learned your lesson from tarantula and made a pretty nice features right here. Keep up the good work Track.

Ps2. Dont ban anymore accounts of mine anymore plx

Nvm, im dumb. I've notice that varka/ketra rewards are doubled so i'm assuming that only 1st and 2nd prof will be for free, right?

Sorry for double post.
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: Easley on December 02, 2014, 02:23:28 PM
Quote from: trippledouble on December 02, 2014, 02:08:38 PM
Nvm, im dumb. I've notice that varka/ketra rewards are doubled so i'm assuming that only 1st and 2nd prof will be for free, right?

Sorry for double post.
Well dunno if there will be free thirdclass in HB (kinda hope not) but the double ketra/varka reward is not only for 3rd prof quest though ;b It'll make it easier to get S grade armor recipes aswell.
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: trippledouble on December 02, 2014, 02:55:07 PM
Quote from: Easley on December 02, 2014, 02:23:28 PM
Well dunno if there will be free thirdclass in HB (kinda hope not) but the double ketra/varka reward is not only for 3rd prof quest though ;b It'll make it easier to get S grade armor recipes aswell.

Who cares. S grades will be just temporary anyways, since we'll have a Dynasty (s80). I kinda hope that they will change it a bit and make it wearable since 76lvl, like normal s grade, but it's not such a big deal anyway. AND PLS GOD FORBID IMPLEMENTING DN SETS :P
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on December 02, 2014, 02:57:12 PM
Quote from: trippledouble on December 02, 2014, 02:55:07 PM
Who cares. S grades will be just temporary anyways, since we'll have a Dynasty (s80). I kinda hope that they will change it a bit and make it wearable since 76lvl, like normal s grade, but it's not such a big deal anyway. AND PLS GOD FORBID IMPLEMENTING DN SETS :P
There will be no item customs, obviously.
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: Gardax on December 02, 2014, 04:09:55 PM
y0!

It's great info. I look forward to OTB server. :)

I think, there is so big community which will join that server. So, Track you need to inform "RETAIL" players and take them from other servers. :P

Greetings,
Gardax.
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: trippledouble on December 02, 2014, 04:17:40 PM
Quote from: Gardax on December 02, 2014, 04:09:55 PM
y0!

It's great info. I look forward to OTB server. :)

I think, there is so big community which will join that server. So, Track you need to inform "RETAIL" players and take them from other servers. :P

Greetings,
Gardax.

I've missed you, dear :* :D
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: __Metallica__ on December 02, 2014, 05:34:16 PM
Hoping that there will be at least our beloved Dragon-Network signed items like:

Combat Haste Potion
P. Attack /M. Attack potion
P. Def / M. Defense potion
Please say yes!

This is why I left official server long time ago :)
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: p90k on December 02, 2014, 06:00:03 PM
Thanks for this server. Hellbound POWAH :)
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: dabird1980 on December 02, 2014, 06:27:01 PM
Quote from: p90k on December 02, 2014, 06:00:03 PM
Thanks for this server. Hellbound POWAH :)

+1! almost cant wait to play on this server!
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: N!k on December 02, 2014, 06:46:16 PM
wish you luck
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: trippledouble on December 02, 2014, 07:11:29 PM
Quote from: N!k on December 02, 2014, 06:46:16 PM
wish you luck

Are you gonna join with your crew?
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: ZeniT on December 02, 2014, 09:14:11 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3NMOzGubCg
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: __Metallica__ on December 02, 2014, 09:20:57 PM
Quote from: ZeniT on December 02, 2014, 09:14:11 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3NMOzGubCg

I've chosen the Dark side , only to laugh like one of them :D Buhahahaa

And thats from me, I was there   ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wvpdBnfiZo
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: N!k on December 02, 2014, 09:44:25 PM
nope i will not. but would be nice to see some videos from that serv.
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: trippledouble on December 02, 2014, 09:51:17 PM
Quote from: N!k on December 02, 2014, 09:44:25 PM
nope i will not. but would be nice to see some videos from that serv.

Sux. Was kinda hoping that we will be able to compete. Take care :)
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: Peorexo on December 03, 2014, 12:25:03 AM
Quote from: N!k on December 02, 2014, 09:44:25 PM
nope i will not. but would be nice to see some videos from that serv.
fraps on?
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on December 03, 2014, 02:08:25 AM
Quote from: Garro on December 03, 2014, 01:42:50 AM
I hope that pagans and lethals from EE/BP wont be so *boosted* this time.
Why should we touch any of the skills if we will be running official setup with no sub stack. There will be no skill nerfs...
This is 1 of major reasons, why we dropped substack idea on our new servers. After years of struggle, we realised that there is no way to balance it. Even if you try to perfectly balance (tara) players complain that their chars "suck" and mass leave or 2nd scenario , unreasonable "nerfs n fixes" (dragon), results same.
Therefor we will be running l2classic server as it is ment to be years ago, so dont expect any of the skill "boosting n nerfing".
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: Alannah on December 03, 2014, 03:33:06 AM
skills work as they should in Hellbound
keep in mind this is not c4 based, so it's not something like HB servers were back in 2009-2011~
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: N!k on December 03, 2014, 10:09:08 AM
Quote from: trippledouble on December 02, 2014, 09:51:17 PM
Sux. Was kinda hoping that we will be able to compete. Take care :)
thx, you 2.
revel, ofc.
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: Furesy on December 03, 2014, 07:31:06 PM
Bummer it's not C4 or C3.

Good luck anyway :P
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on December 03, 2014, 07:43:39 PM
Quote from: Furesy on December 03, 2014, 07:31:06 PM
Bummer it's not C4 or C3.

Good luck anyway :P
You wouldn't play on any of those anyway.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on December 03, 2014, 08:47:47 PM
Quote from: NeoN007 on December 03, 2014, 08:42:15 PM
And what about Combat Haste Pations ? Hope to see them cause its better not to shoot on archer like cunt.
For now , plan is to have only mana potions (as mana over time system) and healing potion (healing over time system).
But we can see how it goes on OBT.
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: __Metallica__ on December 03, 2014, 09:32:22 PM
Dance/Song time will be 5 minutes too :D  :P ::)
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on December 03, 2014, 09:44:37 PM
Quote from: __Metallica__ on December 03, 2014, 09:32:22 PM
Dance/Song time will be 5 minutes too :D  :P ::)
It has default value as default H5 does ,Berty.
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: Cromatorus on December 03, 2014, 09:51:30 PM
Why open new two server then fix  one server to be all be good ?:D
Today i join new L2 server ( not dragon) funny was there i saw a lot ppl from DN.
And for some ppl meybe its weird but there GM helps ppl for free :D
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on December 03, 2014, 10:05:59 PM
Quote from: Cromatorus on December 03, 2014, 09:51:30 PM
Why open new two server then fix  one server to be all be good ?:D
Today i join new L2 server ( not dragon) funny was there i saw a lot ppl from DN.
And for some ppl meybe its weird but there GM helps ppl for free :D
Excuse me? And we are helping for money?
Please get yourself together or dont visit this forum just to troll and spread lies.

These new servers has nothing to do with old servers, they offer NEW and totally different gameplay. If you dont plan to try them, we thank you for your attention, but dont come here and trash talk, please.

Thank you
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: __Metallica__ on December 03, 2014, 11:00:41 PM
Quote from: Cromatorus on December 03, 2014, 09:51:30 PM
Why open new two server then fix  one server to be all be good ?:D
Today i join new L2 server ( not dragon) funny was there i saw a lot ppl from DN.
And for some ppl meybe its weird but there GM helps ppl for free :D

Dude I've been in a loooot of servers and I have seen a lot of Dragon network players in them, they come and go. Actually my point is most of those private servers are alive for little periods, and a big part of Lineage players know about Dragon-Network. Played or not, they have heard it. Which is good thing. DN is alive since long time, and I think it was really even late for retail server w/o substuck because it's way more difficult to ballance server with substuck. And oly? It's a joke! Look at x15 Dragon, fukin buffer kill you with ease.. it's not the GM's foult, its just the way it is.
Hoping that in those new servers we will find who is really good and who not. It's not for noobs, thats for sure.
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: Locus on December 03, 2014, 11:19:12 PM
Does our beloved drake have anything to do with those new servers ????
Couse we at Dragon servers heard that he is off or whatever. And we are still waiting for updates and fixes that only he can provide etc.
And then sudenly new servers pop up...
? ? ?
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on December 03, 2014, 11:23:47 PM
Quote from: Locus on December 03, 2014, 11:19:12 PM
Does our beloved drake have anything to do with those new servers ????
Couse we at Dragon servers heard that he is off or whatever. And we are still waiting for updates and fixes that only he can provide etc.
And then sudenly new servers pop up...
? ? ?
Of course he is, else how could we do this tremendous work? He is 1 of 3 active developers working on these projects.However he stopped posting at forum (obviously why).
About Dragon, you have to ask main GM there ShowStopper, because we have nothing to do with Dragon developing.
Please keep this section related to the subject of its topic.

Thank you
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on December 03, 2014, 11:26:02 PM
Quote from: __Metallica__ on December 03, 2014, 11:00:41 PM
Dude I've been in a loooot of servers and I have seen a lot of Dragon network players in them, they come and go. Actually my point is most of those private servers are alive for little periods, and a big part of Lineage players know about Dragon-Network. Played or not, they have heard it. Which is good thing. DN is alive since long time, and I think it was really even late for retail server w/o substuck because it's way more difficult to ballance server with substuck. And oly? It's a joke! Look at x15 Dragon, fukin buffer kill you with ease.. it's not the GM's foult, its just the way it is.
Hoping that in those new servers we will find who is really good and who not. It's not for noobs, thats for sure.
Thank you for your kind words. Although i still dont understand why ONLY on these pages, whenever some new good things are coming , flames, trolling and hate appears....But this time we will be deleting and banning without warning (seems its the only way).
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: OsirisDl on December 03, 2014, 11:26:07 PM
Quote from: Cromatorus on December 03, 2014, 09:51:30 PM
Why open new two server then fix  one server to be all be good ?:D
Today i join new L2 server ( not dragon) funny was there i saw a lot ppl from DN.
And for some ppl meybe its weird but there GM helps ppl for free :D

ahhaha sethan bro kocham cie I see your out of the hospital hope all is good  :P
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: OsirisDl on December 03, 2014, 11:28:25 PM
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on December 03, 2014, 11:26:02 PM
Thank you for your kind words. Although i still dont understand why ONLY on these pages, whenever some new good things are coming , flames, trolling and hate appears....But this time we will be deleting and banning without warning (seems its the only way).

+1 but you need bann always not just now and keep it up we don't need hate on forums only LOVE and HAPPINESS
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: bakoo on December 04, 2014, 12:26:42 AM
Quote from: UngO on December 02, 2014, 05:55:03 AM
too bad it isnt iterlude :( i would definetly give it chance again...hb brings atribute system which i rly dont like

hey Ungo, get a life ;p
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: ^Evacuate^ on December 04, 2014, 12:29:43 AM
Quote from: UngO on December 02, 2014, 05:55:03 AM
too bad it isnt iterlude :( i would definetly give it chance again...hb brings atribute system which i rly dont like
If you did play HB on dn years ago and never tested a retail attribute system id reccomend you to try it out,old dn hb and this one are totally 2 different servers,we are running full retail attribute system.
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: groar on December 05, 2014, 01:45:55 AM
Should be fun :P
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: DVP on December 06, 2014, 12:05:52 AM
Quote from: ^Evacuate^ on December 04, 2014, 12:29:43 AM
If you did play HB on dn years ago and never tested a retail attribute system id reccomend you to try it out,old dn hb and this one are totally 2 different servers,we are running full retail attribute system.

Oh damn, you just reminded me that HB has attribute system... :S
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: bomekk on December 06, 2014, 01:27:40 AM
HB is best chronicle, atribute system is very Good and give alot of fun
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: UngO on December 06, 2014, 04:39:16 AM
Quote from: bakoo on December 04, 2014, 12:26:42 AM
hey Ungo, get a life ;p
i got good life mate dont worry, i paint i travel etc :) anyway lineage is memories and i like to do some pvp from time to time...you should get real life and not work all the time :P
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: UngO on December 06, 2014, 04:41:36 AM
Quote from: bomekk on December 06, 2014, 01:27:40 AM
HB is best chronicle, atribute system is very Good and give alot of fun
u mean prelonging more farm before pvp? well if fun for you is killing mobs then ye ofc hb is a lot of fun lol...every pvp player who ment something in this community will tell u best times was c4 and max Il since those chronicles was mostly bout pvp...anyway this community would need some pvp server but that wont happen since noone will donate in high rate servers
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: bakoo on December 06, 2014, 10:53:14 AM
Quote from: UngO on December 06, 2014, 04:39:16 AM
i got good life mate dont worry, i paint i travel etc :) anyway lineage is memories and i like to do some pvp from time to time...you should get real life and not work all the time :P

no no  im not anymore working so much as before no worries ;p
just looking for smth to from time to time and maybe it will be l2 ;p

again... who know ;)
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: bomekk on December 06, 2014, 11:30:10 AM
Pvp on HB is better then on interlude for  me ofc, on GF is good to but higher chronicle then GF are sucks, on HB or GF farm is not bad if u know how farm, u can farm easy and with pleasure.
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: UngO on December 06, 2014, 12:06:26 PM
Quote from: bomekk on December 06, 2014, 11:30:10 AM
Pvp on HB is better then on interlude for  me ofc, on GF is good to but higher chronicle then GF are sucks, on HB or GF farm is not bad if u know how farm, u can farm easy and with pleasure.
what is better on pvp in hb or gracia tell me? all u need for pvp is varka, draco set, draco bow and skills...gracia final is the most shitty crap ever created...
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: N!k on December 06, 2014, 12:28:20 PM
best pvp is when you need to defend your intrests. farm/quests/epics/sieges (if serv is working fine manor means alot). L2 is grind/pvp game not moba or so where you can just fight non stop. So it is all about ballance of grind and pvp.
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: Escaflew on December 06, 2014, 01:18:21 PM
Oh well, you got me once again, DN! I will probably be here for the grand opening and I really want to see something different from you, guys. The non substack option is something new to DN and I hope it develop to positivity. Can't wait to see what you've prepare for us once again!
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: 8kjupx3u on December 13, 2014, 12:47:26 AM
I want to come back too.

2 questions ;
If you get for example active augument vampiric claw .. what is the skill reload time?
If the rates are x15, it will suck for some classes to get to a high lvl .. can u change rates a bit higher.

good luck
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: moodazz on December 13, 2014, 12:52:12 AM
lol man :D 15x is low rates? you forgot vitality and donation runes, its high rates server here, and dont forget, there will be no npc buffs
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: somasz on December 13, 2014, 12:57:50 AM
Quote from: moodazz on December 13, 2014, 12:52:12 AM
lol man :D 15x is low rates? you forgot vitality and donation runes, its high rates server here, and dont forget, there will be no npc buffs
what? hb have no vitality :)
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: 8kjupx3u on December 13, 2014, 01:02:06 AM
Quote from: moodazz on December 13, 2014, 12:52:12 AM
lol man :D 15x is low rates? you forgot vitality and donation runes, its high rates server here, and dont forget, there will be no npc buffs
will you make a private buffer for me..?
I pay yu
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: moodazz on December 13, 2014, 01:02:59 AM
there will be no big online in hb i think, most people will play h5
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: __Metallica__ on December 13, 2014, 01:06:51 AM
Quote from: moodazz on December 13, 2014, 01:02:59 AM
there will be no big online in hb i think, most people will play h5
There will be much more than all servers put together in Hellbound. Because there is not any other good private HB server in the world. We have already H5... HB is more attractive.
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: moodazz on December 13, 2014, 01:53:05 AM
ok what will you choose? big new HD tv, or old small tv? both can offer you watching movies and stuff, but most people will choose the first one, me too
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: Morel on December 13, 2014, 02:03:59 AM
@up
Da fak what are you talking about ? :o

@HB
All will have to xp in one spot for long time = a lot of pvp.
Title: Re: Good job!
Post by: __Metallica__ on December 13, 2014, 02:09:47 AM
It's about personal choice of course. Noone can force you. I respect free will. But if you ask me what I will prefer. Yes I would prefer, like you call it "small old TV" (Hellbound) .  Hellbound is much better in PvP way, than PvE H5, H5 is heaven to spoilers, instance zone parties, etc... all these are good part of the game of course, but I think the more places to farm the less the PvP actions. Thats my opinion. But in Hellbound the best places for farm are just few, where you can always find PvP. "Stop ks my mob!  Pew pew" I miss that so much.  :'(  ::)

P.S.
While thinking bigger, I want to mention that you can't simply update H5.. We stuck on it. Can't  update, it's kinda depressing to know that we wouln't move to something new.
And when the time comes it get's all boring, so they implement few new items which makes your chars more powerful, and more and more ... then comes nerfs, then comes fixes, then comes problems. See? So much problems :D I prefer to stuck on Hellbound, than on H5..