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Oblique

#60
May 01, 2009, 11:13:42 AM
Quote from: mark_elesse on April 29, 2009, 04:32:59 PM
its a good idea ! make this update with some extra skill for archers with we can avoid ( by the usage of proper buffs ) the 4-5-6 k mcrits, so well be also able decrease the incoming damage to ~2k like mages can against arrowz :) ahh and also give us self-battle heal plz :) <3 ty.

bet your gear on that i cant make a mage crit your archer ( without ud or symbol  over 2k ! oki ?
When you played last time a mage ? Not SpS/EE. I played archer, dagger and mage in the last 1,5 year. Decent equipment, sometimes nice equip, never on dynasty. I have equip for all those 3 types of chars, but I play more mage because is more suportive for rest of party compared to archer cannon. Anyway, about those hits/damage of different chars, in my opinion, with the following examples, in the last 1,5 year server players that used archers, orcs and daggers have no reason to complain. Also I will present you damage from combo like ty/pal or anything that can summ up angelic icon and orc self skills.
My mage CP+HP is 4122+5466/no bless body, paagrio fist and VoP on.
Let's see:
1. Archer siege buffed: 2524+1245 dmg, attacker: cthon
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/6987/shot00192.jpg
2. Archer PvP self buffed (he didn't crit me): 505 dmg, attacker:Amateurnicestar
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/6890/shot00203v.jpg
3. SpS/EE PvP, no elem rezist, no aqua rezist: 2433 dmg, attacker gize
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/2030/shot00205o.jpg
4. Archer PvP buffed: 2161 dmg, attacker : BufferBukietow
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/2451/shot00207i.jpg
5. Glad with tripple (my char on retail, no defensive buffs): 3161+2604+5209 dmg. attacker 0yama
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/6339/shot00292.jpg
6. Archers gunners siege buffed: 1398+3430+2305 dmg, attackers: danner+jellybon+catosEB
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/6782/shot00296.jpg
7. My dagger with no buffs vs a dark mage: 2731+2646+1605 dmg
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/9026/shot00300.jpg
8. Dagger siege buffed: 3217 dmg, atacker iSting
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8316/shot00334h.jpg
9. Orc on frenzy (mutant) full buffed PP+bd+sws+pof 14550 dmg, attacker LQL
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/3020/shot00346.jpg

In PvE my best hits vs a Trex are about 22-23k dmg on m crit, not so often like from a SpS and my attacking stat is : m att 5467, casting spd. 1563, with dances, PoW and arcane power on.
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/3973/shot00356.jpg
Bcz I play OL I have soul guard that almost 2xpdef, think about p def of sh, sorc or sps...How many buffs for p def you got ingame ? How many for magic defence ? I don't think mages are overpowered, but i continue to play it because is funny.
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cthon

#61
May 01, 2009, 11:47:15 AM
Quote from: Oblique on May 01, 2009, 11:13:42 AM
When you played last time a mage ? Not SpS/EE. I played archer, dagger and mage in the last 1,5 year. Decent equipment, sometimes nice equip, never on dynasty. I have equip for all those 3 types of chars, but I play more mage because is more suportive for rest of party compared to archer cannon. Anyway, about those hits/damage of different chars, in my opinion, with the following examples, in the last 1,5 year server players that used archers, orcs and daggers have no reason to complain. Also I will present you damage from combo like ty/pal or anything that can summ up angelic icon and orc self skills.
My mage CP+HP is 4122+5466/no bless body, paagrio fist and VoP on.
Let's see:
1. Archer siege buffed: 2524+1245 dmg, attacker: cthon
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/6987/shot00192.jpg
2. Archer PvP self buffed (he didn't crit me): 505 dmg, attacker:Amateurnicestar
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/6890/shot00203v.jpg
3. SpS/EE PvP, no elem rezist, no aqua rezist: 2433 dmg, attacker gize
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/2030/shot00205o.jpg
4. Archer PvP buffed: 2161 dmg, attacker : BufferBukietow
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/2451/shot00207i.jpg
5. Glad with tripple (my char on retail, no defensive buffs): 3161+2604+5209 dmg. attacker 0yama
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/6339/shot00292.jpg
6. Archers gunners siege buffed: 1398+3430+2305 dmg, attackers: danner+jellybon+catosEB
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/6782/shot00296.jpg
7. My dagger with no buffs vs a dark mage: 2731+2646+1605 dmg
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/9026/shot00300.jpg
8. Dagger siege buffed: 3217 dmg, atacker iSting
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8316/shot00334h.jpg
9. Orc on frenzy (mutant) full buffed PP+bd+sws+pof 14550 dmg, attacker LQL
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/3020/shot00346.jpg

In PvE my best hits vs a Trex are about 22-23k dmg on m crit, not so often like from a SpS and my attacking stat is : m att 5467, casting spd. 1563, with dances, PoW and arcane power on.
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/3973/shot00356.jpg
Bcz I play OL I have soul guard that almost 2xpdef, think about p def of sh, sorc or sps...How many buffs for p def you got ingame ? How many for magic defence ? I don't think mages are overpowered, but i continue to play it because is funny.


that should be 2500+2500 but was ss lag :D

PS : iSting is archer :P iSing is the dagger :D
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stanko

#62
May 01, 2009, 11:55:15 AM
Quote from: Oblique on May 01, 2009, 11:13:42 AM
When you played last time a mage ? Not SpS/EE. I played archer, dagger and mage in the last 1,5 year. Decent equipment, sometimes nice equip, never on dynasty. I have equip for all those 3 types of chars, but I play more mage because is more suportive for rest of party compared to archer cannon. Anyway, about those hits/damage of different chars, in my opinion, with the following examples, in the last 1,5 year server players that used archers, orcs and daggers have no reason to complain. Also I will present you damage from combo like ty/pal or anything that can summ up angelic icon and orc self skills.
My mage CP+HP is 4122+5466/no bless body, paagrio fist and VoP on.
Let's see:
1. Archer siege buffed: 2524+1245 dmg, attacker: cthon
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/6987/shot00192.jpg
2. Archer PvP self buffed (he didn't crit me): 505 dmg, attacker:Amateurnicestar
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/6890/shot00203v.jpg
3. SpS/EE PvP, no elem rezist, no aqua rezist: 2433 dmg, attacker gize
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/2030/shot00205o.jpg
4. Archer PvP buffed: 2161 dmg, attacker : BufferBukietow
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/2451/shot00207i.jpg
5. Glad with tripple (my char on retail, no defensive buffs): 3161+2604+5209 dmg. attacker 0yama
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/6339/shot00292.jpg
6. Archers gunners siege buffed: 1398+3430+2305 dmg, attackers: danner+jellybon+catosEB
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/6782/shot00296.jpg
7. My dagger with no buffs vs a dark mage: 2731+2646+1605 dmg
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/9026/shot00300.jpg
8. Dagger siege buffed: 3217 dmg, atacker iSting
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8316/shot00334h.jpg
9. Orc on frenzy (mutant) full buffed PP+bd+sws+pof 14550 dmg, attacker LQL
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/3020/shot00346.jpg

In PvE my best hits vs a Trex are about 22-23k dmg on m crit, not so often like from a SpS and my attacking stat is : m att 5467, casting spd. 1563, with dances, PoW and arcane power on.
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/3973/shot00356.jpg
Bcz I play OL I have soul guard that almost 2xpdef, think about p def of sh, sorc or sps...How many buffs for p def you got ingame ? How many for magic defence ? I don't think mages are overpowered, but i continue to play it because is funny.

But how the hell u can play with that skill bar? O.o
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Sephiroth

#63
May 01, 2009, 11:57:45 AM
Gabi,Do I need to tell ya how to make proper SPS/OL skillbars? xD

TomekAlmighty

#64
May 01, 2009, 12:24:31 PM
I tryed pvping a little yesterday and all i can say is Dn is freaked up xD

I was with magic barrier, unholy protection, song of warding, song of invocation and a necro crited me for 4k dammage and the chance of him hiting me for 4k is just too big when you consider a mage can reach almost 2k casting speed... Guess nowdays you just have to make an overpowered mutant to have a chance of surviving more than 2 seconds in a pvp witch is pretty sad.  :-X
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iNs

#65
May 01, 2009, 12:45:27 PM Last Edit: May 01, 2009, 01:10:17 PM by iNs
Quote from: Oblique on May 01, 2009, 11:13:42 AM
When you played last time a mage ? Not SpS/EE. I played archer, dagger and mage in the last 1,5 year. Decent equipment, sometimes nice equip, never on dynasty. I have equip for all those 3 types of chars, but I play more mage because is more suportive for rest of party compared to archer cannon. Anyway, about those hits/damage of different chars, in my opinion, with the following examples, in the last 1,5 year server players that used archers, orcs and daggers have no reason to complain. Also I will present you damage from combo like ty/pal or anything that can summ up angelic icon and orc self skills.
My mage CP+HP is 4122+5466/no bless body, paagrio fist and VoP on.
Let's see:
1. Archer siege buffed: 2524+1245 dmg, attacker: cthon
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/6987/shot00192.jpg
2. Archer PvP self buffed (he didn't crit me): 505 dmg, attacker:Amateurnicestar
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/6890/shot00203v.jpg
3. SpS/EE PvP, no elem rezist, no aqua rezist: 2433 dmg, attacker gize
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/2030/shot00205o.jpg
4. Archer PvP buffed: 2161 dmg, attacker : BufferBukietow
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/2451/shot00207i.jpg
5. Glad with tripple (my char on retail, no defensive buffs): 3161+2604+5209 dmg. attacker 0yama
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/6339/shot00292.jpg
6. Archers gunners siege buffed: 1398+3430+2305 dmg, attackers: danner+jellybon+catosEB
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/6782/shot00296.jpg
7. My dagger with no buffs vs a dark mage: 2731+2646+1605 dmg
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/9026/shot00300.jpg
8. Dagger siege buffed: 3217 dmg, atacker iSting
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8316/shot00334h.jpg
9. Orc on frenzy (mutant) full buffed PP+bd+sws+pof 14550 dmg, attacker LQL
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/3020/shot00346.jpg

In PvE my best hits vs a Trex are about 22-23k dmg on m crit, not so often like from a SpS and my attacking stat is : m att 5467, casting spd. 1563, with dances, PoW and arcane power on.
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/3973/shot00356.jpg
Bcz I play OL I have soul guard that almost 2xpdef, think about p def of sh, sorc or sps...How many buffs for p def you got ingame ? How many for magic defence ? I don't think mages are overpowered, but i continue to play it because is funny.


dude ur without songs lmao, a smart mage has Ee shield buffs, songs for pdef vit ren, and the rest of stuff. A well buffed OL/MAGE takes like 1 - 1.5k crits lol. And what then ? he gets 1.5k, 1 heal fro bishop and crits me for 5k, is that fair ? lol, yet i dont give a freak tbh.
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Deavon

#66
May 01, 2009, 03:53:30 PM
Quote from: iNs on May 01, 2009, 12:45:27 PM
dude ur without songs lmao, a smart mage has Ee shield buffs, songs for pdef vit ren, and the rest of stuff. A well buffed OL/MAGE takes like 1 - 1.5k crits lol. And what then ? he gets 1.5k, 1 heal fro bishop and crits me for 5k, is that fair ? lol, yet i dont give a freak tbh.

stop giving guides for proper buffs ,let them all turn to Oriin so we can have "proper" Fun xD

Dag

#67
May 01, 2009, 04:04:51 PM
Quote from: kidicarus on April 30, 2009, 08:03:27 PM
That doesnt really matter..... i have 2,7k m.def but that doesn't mean mages can't crit me for 3k dmg. The problem is that M.def doesn't help nearly as much as resists, and theres no way you can "manage" your buffslots into taking resists for all type of mages. And if you fight mage opponents you can be sure taht your buffslots will be eaten up by curses and surrenders pretty fast.

So the whole "manage your buffslots and use your brain" attitude is just bullshit. I don't know about dragon, but on NM we have a max of 24 buffslots. Theres just no way to both deal dmg, and protect yourself vs all mages.

PS: I play mage..... i just think this whole reasoning is retarded. Mages crit enough as it is..... they even did enough dmg back when they never crit.
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#68
May 01, 2009, 04:43:33 PM
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on May 01, 2009, 12:24:31 PM
I tryed pvping a little yesterday and all i can say is Dn is freaked up xD

I was with magic barrier, unholy protection, song of warding, song of invocation and a necro crited me for 4k dammage and the chance of him hiting me for 4k is just too big when you consider a mage can reach almost 2k casting speed... Guess nowdays you just have to make an overpowered mutant to have a chance of surviving more than 2 seconds in a pvp witch is pretty sad.  :-X
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Ozukyz

#69
May 01, 2009, 04:45:30 PM
Quote from: Deavon on May 01, 2009, 03:53:30 PM
stop giving guides for proper buffs ,let them all turn to Oriin so we can have "proper" Fun xD

full buffs= pussy ;p
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kidicarus

#70
May 01, 2009, 04:55:57 PM
Quote from: Oblique on May 01, 2009, 11:13:42 AM
When you played last time a mage ? Not SpS/EE. I played archer, dagger and mage in the last 1,5 year. Decent equipment, sometimes nice equip, never on dynasty. I have equip for all those 3 types of chars, but I play more mage because is more suportive for rest of party compared to archer cannon. Anyway, about those hits/damage of different chars, in my opinion, with the following examples, in the last 1,5 year server players that used archers, orcs and daggers have no reason to complain. Also I will present you damage from combo like ty/pal or anything that can summ up angelic icon and orc self skills.
My mage CP+HP is 4122+5466/no bless body, paagrio fist and VoP on.
Let's see:
1. Archer siege buffed: 2524+1245 dmg, attacker: cthon
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/6987/shot00192.jpg
2. Archer PvP self buffed (he didn't crit me): 505 dmg, attacker:Amateurnicestar
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/6890/shot00203v.jpg
3. SpS/EE PvP, no elem rezist, no aqua rezist: 2433 dmg, attacker gize
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/2030/shot00205o.jpg
4. Archer PvP buffed: 2161 dmg, attacker : BufferBukietow
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/2451/shot00207i.jpg
5. Glad with tripple (my char on retail, no defensive buffs): 3161+2604+5209 dmg. attacker 0yama
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/6339/shot00292.jpg
6. Archers gunners siege buffed: 1398+3430+2305 dmg, attackers: danner+jellybon+catosEB
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/6782/shot00296.jpg
7. My dagger with no buffs vs a dark mage: 2731+2646+1605 dmg
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/9026/shot00300.jpg
8. Dagger siege buffed: 3217 dmg, atacker iSting
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8316/shot00334h.jpg
9. Orc on frenzy (mutant) full buffed PP+bd+sws+pof 14550 dmg, attacker LQL
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/3020/shot00346.jpg

In PvE my best hits vs a Trex are about 22-23k dmg on m crit, not so often like from a SpS and my attacking stat is : m att 5467, casting spd. 1563, with dances, PoW and arcane power on.
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/3973/shot00356.jpg
Bcz I play OL I have soul guard that almost 2xpdef, think about p def of sh, sorc or sps...How many buffs for p def you got ingame ? How many for magic defence ? I don't think mages are overpowered, but i continue to play it because is funny.


No songs, no shield buffs, some screens on unsubbed char, A-grade set..... Whats your point with theese screens?

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Ozukyz

#71
May 01, 2009, 05:15:22 PM
Quote from: kidicarus on May 01, 2009, 04:55:57 PM
No songs, no shield buffs, some screens on unsubbed char, A-grade set..... Whats your point with theese screens?

+1 post point?
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