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Started by slimx, January 05, 2011, 05:42:59 PM

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Quote from: Weezer on January 06, 2011, 05:08:17 PM
Just one more opinion about screens from test.

Make the buffs same like PVP, if u wanna prove that NE r making rly low damage, try to get 1 Fighter with the buffs he usually use on PVP, don't consider the Dance of Alignment and the Song of Invocation, cause most of time a fighter pt wont have this song/dance on their buff bar while on pvp/sieges.
i alrdy did it on gaimardi yday and dmg was 170 without transfer pain . with song invocation dmg was 134
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chlipus

even if atr system got fixed and bring back old dmg from  before last server maintance this don't change fact: to get resist for archer you need 2x part with 150 atr=300 =-30% archer dmg but to make resist for evry one archer you need 2 sets, it is useles because in the same time you can wear only set witch resist only with 2 elements on archer so rest archer give you big dmg, np if you have 2x wind and 2x fire archers with holy,earth,water,dark can you kill easly, so this atr system don't make sense when arher don't need any atr in set because if he use resist buffs vs mages, mages give him shit dmg because for mages resist buffs give more reduce dmg them any atr in armours so this atr system is really sux and make this shit server unbalanced that is my opinion on this point

eagleye

necros are now fcked up - and i agree to that. But not only - now all mages hit rly lower that around 1 month ago, like Maciek said - i didn't saw from long time any mage with some ultrakill or smth like this. I have on my SH 11k matak with full wind attr for pvp - and I hit Puff or Gaimardi for 300 max (m.crit - 1k -1.5k), mages can kill some1 now after 2-3 cancel from SPS or kamael. So now all mages are fcked up - but mostly are necros.

chlipus

Quote from: eagleye on January 06, 2011, 05:20:13 PM
necros are now fcked up - and i agree to that. But not only - now all mages hit rly lower that around 1 month ago, like Maciek said - i didn't saw from long time any mage with some ultrakill or smth like this. I have on my SH 11k matak with full wind attr for pvp - and I hit Puff or Gaimardi for 300 max (m.crit - 1k -1.5k), mages can kill some1 now after 2-3 cancel from SPS or kamael. So now all mages are fcked up - but mostly are necros.

now after last maintance atr system don't work with magic skils, but i think track fix it, but it doesyn't change it :
Quote from: chlipuseven if atr system got fixed and bring back old dmg from  before last server maintance this don't change fact: to get resist for archer you need 2x part with 150 atr=300 =-30% archer dmg but to make resist for evry one archer you need 2 sets, it is useles because in the same time you can wear only set witch resist only with 2 elements on archer so rest archer give you big dmg, np if you have 2x wind and 2x fire archers with holy,earth,water,dark can you kill easly, so this atr system don't make sense when arher don't need any atr in set because if he use resist buffs vs mages, mages give him shit dmg because for mages resist buffs give more reduce dmg them any atr in armours so this atr system is really sux and make this shit server unbalanced that is my opinion on this point

666VeNoM

We all know that since interlude/HB we got lots of new resist buffs against dark. I knew that and I still choose to play with NE/PP, cuz I like it and it used to be a good char.

But the way it is now (mayb cuz of att system, mayb cuz necros got even more nerfed, dont know), its impossible to do pvp.

Anyway, any1 want to come kill some mobs on HB with me?

:-\
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legendaryvicious

Quote from: 666VeNoM on January 06, 2011, 05:49:29 PM
We all know that since interlude/HB we got lots of new resist buffs against dark. I knew that and I still choose to play with NE/PP, cuz I like it and it used to be a good char.

But the way it is now (mayb cuz of att system, mayb cuz necros got even more nerfed, dont know), its impossible to do pvp.

Anyway, any1 want to come kill some mobs on HB with me?

You'll run out of mp before killing any chimera, better stay killing mobs near the spawn or those caravaners lol
You Can't Kill the Messiah.

666VeNoM

Quote from: legendaryvicious on January 06, 2011, 06:00:22 PM
You'll run out of mp before killing any chimera, better stay killing mobs near the spawn or those caravaners lol

Im NE/PP, I have arcane wisdom. MP is not a problem. Arcane Wisdom + Pots + Symbol = eternal MP

;D
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slimx

Quote from: Weezer on January 06, 2011, 05:08:17 PM
Just one more opinion about screens from test.

Make the buffs same like PVP, if u wanna prove that NE r making rly low damage, try to get 1 Fighter with the buffs he usually use on PVP, don't consider the Dance of Alignment and the Song of Invocation, cause most of time a fighter pt wont have this song/dance on their buff bar while on pvp/sieges.
well not many ppl use aling or invo in pvp bcuz they don't need it , just look on the screen with catos only with mb/mangus and warding and see the dmg , i wouldn't bother to use them also  ;D ; unlike archers mags can't afford the luxury to go w/o winstorm or cop and even with all that , deflect arrow lvl 2 , 2,7k pdef i get 1,5-2k from some archers  >:(

Gonzal

Quote from: slimx on January 06, 2011, 06:23:17 PM
well not many ppl use aling or invo in pvp bcuz they don't need it , just look on the screen with catos only with mb/mangus and warding and see the dmg , i wouldn't bother to use them also  ;D ; unlike archers mags can't afford the luxury to go w/o winstorm or cop and even with all that , deflect arrow lvl 2 , 2,7k pdef i get 1,5-2k from some archers  >:(
1 solution: make windstorm like the other songs (2 and half mins)
2 solution: fix or set default att system for mage atks cause as i said in my other replies, mages dont get boost from att on weapon!
3 solution: rerole to bp/tank or archer/tank QQ mages
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chlipus

Quote from: Gonzal on January 06, 2011, 06:50:05 PM
1 solution: make windstorm like the other songs (2 and half mins)
2 solution: fix or set default att system for mage atks cause as i said in my other replies, mages dont get boost from att on weapon!
3 solution: rerole to bp/tank or archer/tank QQ mages

4 solution leave from this shit serv and don't waste time for playing here it don't make sense any more

Tabbox

Quote from: eagleye on January 06, 2011, 05:20:13 PM
necros are now fcked up - and i agree to that. But not only - now all mages hit rly lower that around 1 month ago, like Maciek said - i didn't saw from long time any mage with some ultrakill or smth like this. I have on my SH 11k matak with full wind attr for pvp - and I hit Puff or Gaimardi for 300 max (m.crit - 1k -1.5k), mages can kill some1 now after 2-3 cancel from SPS or kamael. So now all mages are fcked up - but mostly are necros.
i think they discover out that we are edited! damn  ;D

ahamzz

Quote from: 5ruci on January 06, 2011, 07:22:39 PM
i bet that wolf 80lv full buffed w/o jewels and armor hit harder than somme mage with 20 m.atk  :o
anyone can test it?
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