Discussion: Final Secret

[PainMaster]

pr/bd got deflect arrow right? Point is that he/glad even w/o final secret makes 2 x bigger damage then other archers class. Like i said sr/sws with top items and enchant of skills(Immaculate) making 2x lower damage then Zedu. U still saying this class will lose so much that not have final secret?

loed at this ...   

imo this classes are not OE , dont nerf them !!!!   

znd mr.zord maby lets start nerf bish/tank classes   > deflect arrow /majesty  etc   in robe  WTF !!!  working those skill in robe set its joke for me

[Triuferkkk]

loed at this ...   

imo this classes are not OE , dont nerf them !!!!   

znd mr.zord maby lets start nerf bish/tank classes   > deflect arrow /majesty  etc   in robe  WTF !!!  working those skill in robe set its joke for me

actually its fail copy of Katsu, so no wonder if he gets such a hits and later cry on forum to nerf such a class xd

[MegaZord]

actually its fail copy of Katsu, so no wonder if he gets such a hits and later cry on forum to nerf such a class xd

I not cry here about damage from he/glad on me( he hit me 1 k max) just i know how other classes for example with sub on pp get damage. Sure i am copy of Katsu xD, say noob pr/sk who crit me 400-500. U think all bp/pal make their chars coz of Katsu? xDDD

[Triuferkkk]

I not cry here about damage from he/glad on me( he hit me 1 k max) just i know how other classes for example with sub on pp get damage. Sure i am copy of Katsu xD, say noob pr/sk who crit me 400-500. U think all bp/pal make their chars coz of Katsu? xDDD

so cuz he hit other char bit stronger means he deserves nerf? so in your opinion all classes who hit stronger not tank class deserve nerf oO


and yes, i keep this what i said in previous post

[MegaZord]

so cuz he hit other char bit stronger means he deserves nerf? so in your opinion all classes who hit stronger not tank class deserve nerf oO


and yes, i keep this what i said in previous post

Ok np fail copy of Darhed. XD

[Gonzal]

IMO u can choose between he/pal (more defense and u dont have huge atk power) or he/glad (less p def/mdef but better p atk)
This sub stack cmon the fun part is making the best combo to do what u want to do. In this tank chronicle only few real warriors left...
So if u nerf it u making ppl to rerole to tank more than before... or quit playing.
Im mage/mage few of my class left... i got from those warrior archers huge dmg but i know that im not a tank so its suppose to get that dmg.
Now i want to GM remove any kind of summon nerf u got from other chronicles to make pets stronger
cheers

[PainMaster]

I not cry here about damage from he/glad on me( he hit me 1 k max) just i know how other classes for example with sub on pp get damage. Sure i am copy of Katsu xD, say noob pr/sk who crit me 400-500. U think all bp/pal make their chars coz of Katsu? xDDD

ok nerf he/glad  to make 1k on  mage/pp  ,  on  mage/tanke will be 250 ,    archer  wtf !!!!

imao , nerf deflect in robe  at least  -50% effect , same with majesty.

[zenice]

He/glad is overpowered. Dont forget he got war cry lvl 2(wl got lvl 1) and duelist spirit which give pvp damage + final sicret damage of this class too big. For example mage with sub on pp on full buff is  geting 2 k from normal archers and from he/glad 4 k(about this damage i just give example coz i am not sure if he/glad not hit such subs stronger). Other example: i was on my friend pr/bd only on pp and bd buff i get from sr\sws 2.2 crit and from he/glad 4.5 k or 4.7 i forgot and i was using vesper hvy set+6 full atri.

Ps Zedu
What nerf u got before? That duelist spirit take 10 % patt? Cmon . It still give pvp damage which is more important.

Talking about War Cry lvl 2? u forget in the moment i use duelist spirit i lose 10% patk? meaning i have War Cry lvl 2 aka lvl1  
About  pp/xx taking 4k or more!! lol well the ones i hit or are tanks or u are dreaming. (dont confude char skills with lack of atribute in set)
pr/bd with pp buffs getting 4,5k, wtf u expected? lol The archer combo with bigger patk making 1k on a pr/bd with PP buffs!!   the deflect arrow skill wont save your ass...
About the ps: it still gives pvp damage but my patk its almost like a HE/PAL or a PR/SK and should i remember u what my char have as defense skills?

pr/bd got deflect arrow right? Point is that he/glad even w/o final secret makes 2 x bigger damage then other archers class. Like i said sr/sws with top items and enchant of skills(Immaculate) making 2x lower damage then Zedu. U still saying this class will lose so much that not have final secret?

Now u compare a sr/sws with a he/glad  
For info:
Elf (Fighter) 36 STR
Human (Fighter) 40 STR
Both can put +5 str making HE having 45 STR and ELF 41 STR
I use Heavy vesper set, the sr/sws u mention dont, should i post here the stats wich set gives?
HE have a passive skill called Critical Power lvl2
SR dont have any...
Only in this u can see that the dmg will be diferent, but dont forget one thing very important, u dont give a fck what atribute each have, atribute system atm makes more diference in dmg than anything, dont forget other thing, u and even me dont know how each players sets his char, can be for dex, str, or even to con.

Resuming: this combos HE/GLAD HE/WL are DD nothing more, BUT are DD`s in the moment u go figth without FULL BUFF and a good atributed set, in the moment u lose defensive buffs or songs or wtv u will notice high dmg from this chars.
Its a useless char if u use it without top items, its just unplayable and u will lick the floor faster than u imagine (Hi Kapi   ), even with top items u eat like 3k or 4k from other archers like your friend pr/bd (Hi Tyia .\. )
Nerfing final secret and the already nerf on duelist only will kill (MORE) this chars.

[zenice]

I not cry here about damage from he/glad on me( he hit me 1 k max) just i know how other classes for example with sub on pp get damage. Sure i am copy of Katsu xD, say noob pr/sk who crit me 400-500. U think all bp/pal make their chars coz of Katsu? xDDD

Before Duelist Spirit NERF i hitted Alex having 10k patk for 400 critical, and guess what he didnt need to activate any UD...
I hit Katsu nowdays for 700 critical, and we are talking about a HE/GLAD with TOP items and skills +++++++

[Triuferkkk]

Talking about War Cry lvl 2? u forget in the moment i use duelist spirit i lose 10% patk? meaning i have War Cry lvl 2 aka lvl1  
About  pp/xx taking 4k or more!! lol well the ones i hit or are tanks or u are dreaming. (dont confude char skills with lack of atribute in set)
pr/bd with pp buffs getting 4,5k, wtf u expected? lol The archer combo with bigger patk making 1k on a pr/bd with PP buffs!!   the deflect arrow skill wont save your ass...
About the ps: it still gives pvp damage but my patk its almost like a HE/PAL or a PR/SK and should i remember u what my char have as defense skills?

Now u compare a sr/sws with a he/glad  
For info:
Elf (Fighter) 36 STR
Human (Fighter) 40 STR
Both can put +5 str making HE having 45 STR and ELF 41 STR
I use Heavy vesper set, the sr/sws u mention dont, should i post here the stats wich set gives?
HE have a passive skill called Critical Power lvl2
SR dont have any...
Only in this u can see that the dmg will be diferent, but dont forget one thing very important, u dont give a fck what atribute each have, atribute system atm makes more diference in dmg than anything, dont forget other thing, u and even me dont know how each players sets his char, can be for dex, str, or even to con.

Resuming: this combos HE/GLAD HE/WL are DD nothing more, BUT are DD`s in the moment u go figth without FULL BUFF and a good atributed set, in the moment u lose defensive buffs or songs or wtv u will notice high dmg from this chars.
Its a useless char if u use it without top items, its just unplayable and u will lick the floor faster than u imagine (Hi Kapi   ), even with top items u eat like 3k or 4k from other archers like your friend pr/bd (Hi Tyia .\. )
Nerfing final secret and the already nerf on duelist only will kill (MORE) this chars.

aff you could write it later, i wanted see more how hes comparing yours and Immaculate's char xD i started to have fun xD

Ok np fail copy of Darhed. XD

and whos that oO

[PainMaster]

Before Duelist Spirit NERF i hitted Alex having 10k patk for 400 critical, and guess what he didnt need to activate any UD...
I hit Katsu nowdays for 700 critical, and we are talking about a HE/GLAD with TOP items and skills +++++++

lets look now on mages dmg,  im he/pal  i geting  normal hits 600-1200dmg     cryt  2500-3500    .

NERF ARCHERS !!!!

[MegaZord]

I understand that u hiting Alex 400(our Archers hit him similar) and Katsu 700(similiar u hit me) but i just say maybe ur char is not overpowerd but for example as ur film on youtube showing ppl getting even 8 k damage and its on siege u think they dont have full buff? What i wanna say is that ur combo(he/glad) is overpowered against some classes like sorc/pp necro/pp th/pp or other classes which dont have at least deflect arrow lvl 2. I know white elf got lower str and more dex etc. and prolly Viana use dyes +dex(coz she fast xD) but 2x more damage is little too much dont u think?