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Started by lNecropsy, January 13, 2014, 10:52:49 PM

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Braskah

You are wrong  :).
I agree not a lot ppl use MA  set .
But some ppl use it , depends of gameplay and char.
Like they said upper , Dc robe set +6 is really good to .
Let L2 be L2 , and not a game with xxxx modif.
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Quote from: Pho on January 13, 2014, 11:10:27 PM
Arcana set is totally useless. I prefer dc robe set+6 on my mage char wich is far better than Arcana, imo casting speed is better that pdef in a mage char. :)
yeah casting speed is better. thats why you are going to have cspeed cap reached with ma. and then feel free to switch to dc robe lol

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Quote from: Peorexo on January 13, 2014, 11:13:17 PM
and now i see why this will be archer server...

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As i understand the situation, classes would be balanced, so maybe /nerf on archers ;D
Quote from: TheBlackPhoenix on January 13, 2014, 11:20:13 PM
Even without DC you will get 2100 casting if you are F.E. sps/es or sps/ee, so MA should be better
If so, then mages in S garde will play very relaxed for not being in a disadvantage position against archers. :)
Quote from: GhostSlayer on January 13, 2014, 11:21:14 PM
yeah casting speed is better. thats why you are going to have cspeed cap reached with ma. and then feel free to switch to dc robe lol
Wtf! Lol!  :D
Quote from: Abaddon on January 13, 2014, 11:31:48 PM
p.def with MA and DC is exactly the same, cuz  dc has +8% p.def bonus and MA doesnt
But Arcana has more base pdef. isnt it? So that means higher pdef. that dc set.  ???
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lNecropsy

I just calculated

Sps + full buff + malaria + 4WIT + baium:

Casting speed:
DC set - 1928
AM set - 1601

Still missing:  2x emp tattoo of witch

PDef (sets +0)

DC set - 956
MA set - 1055

Matk (am+4, no valakas)

DC set- 4109
MA set - 4947

Maybe with 2x emp tattoo of witch, SpS on Major arcana can reach 1,8k Casting.
It would have +10% Pdef then in DC, also 50% resist Stun.
and... +18% Matk, wich is great.

Any comments about it?
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GenghisKhan

Or they could keep DC robe set and get more defensive tattoos, and reach more def AND more cspeed with Low A then with the S grade. Anyway, my point was just that MA on IL is piece of crap and no1 will bother waste time on it, but I never said armor bonuses should be modified or anything.

@INecropsy - I'm quite sure you are using improved MA for your analysis.
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ImmortaLSpiriT

well that SH will have same cast speed as SPS is kind of unfair also... but what can we do?.. if u dont like it dont play simple as that
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Peorexo

Quote from: ImmortaLSpiriT on January 13, 2014, 11:41:03 PM
well that SH will have same cast speed as SPS is kind of unfair also... but what can we do?.. if u dont like it dont play simple as that
thats why some players cry for unfair "sh/sps" than learn to play with it and play with major arcana on sps have max cast, and sh on dc robe set or others...

ImmortaLSpiriT

Quote from: Peorexo on January 13, 2014, 11:43:17 PM
thats why some players cry for unfair "sh/sps" than learn to play with it and play with major arcana on sps have max cast, and sh on dc robe set or others...

or just maybe u should learn to read since few posts above someone calculated that u cant reach same cast speed with arcana
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Braskah

Think that MA set have resist stun.
Switch into DC/MA in figth :) .
Ma better to kill Archer ofc. Dc will get stunstunstun :).
Until we get zaken/Antharas xD.
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Quote from: Pho on January 13, 2014, 11:33:12 PM
As i understand the situation, classes would be balanced, so maybe /nerf on archers
Why nerf on archers? What do archers get + with sub? Nothing... Archers will hit the same with or without sub since there r no stacking masteries, stop crying about nerfing the class that can kill the class u chose to play....

lNecropsy

Quote from: igi on January 14, 2014, 02:11:56 AM
Why nerf on archers? What do archers get + with sub? Nothing... Archers will hit the same with or without sub since there r no stacking masteries, stop crying about nerfing the class that can kill the class u chose to play....

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Pho

Quote from: igi on January 14, 2014, 02:11:56 AM
Why nerf on archers? What do archers get + with sub? Nothing... Archers will hit the same with or without sub since there r no stacking masteries, stop crying about nerfing the class that can kill the class u chose to play....
Are you sure? ;) The player behind the char is the most important matter, so i dont's agree with you ;) Btw you look worried about nerfing archers... ::)
Quote from: lNecropsy on January 14, 2014, 03:22:06 AM
You removed his ':D' smile from the end. It was 'sarcasm'.
Here it's a new one -> ;D
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