What sub to take?

[SgtSlaughter]

Just wondering what peoples opinions are on subbing either overlord or warcryer? my main is a tyrant. I will have all the buffs as in pp/bd/sws/ee etc so I'm just wondering what would benefit me more? which one is better for Olympiad? overlord or warcryer? Thanks in advance for the info!

[HeroAW]

Just wondering what peoples opinions are on subbing either overlord or warcryer? my main is a tyrant. I will have all the buffs as in pp/bd/sws/ee etc so I'm just wondering what would benefit me more? which one is better for Olympiad? overlord or warcryer? Thanks in advance for the info!

write down both skills on paper and use your half of a brain

[Csenky]

Just wondering what peoples opinions are on subbing either overlord or warcryer? my main is a tyrant. I will have all the buffs as in pp/bd/sws/ee etc so I'm just wondering what would benefit me more? which one is better for Olympiad? overlord or warcryer? Thanks in advance for the info!

Both has good parts and drawbacks.
OL: WW, CP buff, Soul Guard (good for oly, but lack of Haste)
WC: More fighter buffs, Soul Cry. More offensive, but you might get kited easier without WW, and I'm not sure if Patk from soul cry is as good as the pdef from soul guard.

If you have full buff anyways, I'd say pick OL, the only think you might miss is gate chant. But you can get FoI with OL.

[Garn.]

Both has good parts and drawbacks.
OL: WW, CP buff, Soul Guard (good for oly, but lack of Haste)
WC: More fighter buffs, Soul Cry. More offensive, but you might get kited easier without WW, and I'm not sure if Patk from soul cry is as good as the pdef from soul guard.

If you have full buff anyways, I'd say pick OL, the only think you might miss is gate chant. But you can get FoI with OL.

you get haste 2 on oly.

[Csenky]

you get haste 2 on oly.

Oh, I missed that one. ^^ Then OL is obviously better, however VoP is a bit harder to get than CoV.

[HeroAW]

Both has good parts and drawbacks.
OL: WW, CP buff, Soul Guard (good for oly, but lack of Haste)
WC: More fighter buffs, Soul Cry. More offensive, but you might get kited easier without WW, and I'm not sure if Patk from soul cry is as good as the pdef from soul guard.

If you have full buff anyways, I'd say pick OL, the only think you might miss is gate chant. But you can get FoI with OL.

why do u speak when u have no clue about the game

[Trp]

For oly and pvp Overlord. Reasons are CP recharge, Soul guard, Zerk, WW, some seals land even at fighter stats with usable casting speed (winter for example), with IC set its hard to kill at oly. At mass PVP you can switch to OL stats to be CP battery.

For farm WC. Reasons are: Better buffs for farm (just get BD box and you have everything you need). Useless at large PVPs/Seige (maybe as buffer at mage stats).


PS: Csenky: Both of OL and WC have Soul cry. Just OL have soul guard too

[remeron]

orc shaman dont give defensive passives anymore, you will just be a tryant with self-buffs some pdef and a lil p.atak boost, also cov reuse sux, soul guard effect lowered on light and heavy....
I would go for ty/de, better reuse for frenzy...ty is either farm or oly char...

[Csenky]

For oly and pvp Overlord. Reasons are CP recharge, Soul guard, Zerk, WW, some seals land even at fighter stats with usable casting speed (winter for example), with IC set its hard to kill at oly. At mass PVP you can switch to OL stats to be CP battery.

For farm WC. Reasons are: Better buffs for farm (just get BD box and you have everything you need). Useless at large PVPs/Seige (maybe as buffer at mage stats).


PS: Csenky: Both of OL and WC have Soul cry. Just OL have soul guard too

I failed that. :/ But I wouldn't recommend zerk for pvp. ^^