Poll
Question:
do you think oly with mana + pots + full buff is a good idea, as it is out of town everyday?
Option 1: yes
votes: 63
Option 2: no
votes: 78
here you go 2 short topics about it
http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,192095.0.html
http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,192111.0.html
and what I'm thinking? it's easiest to code than apply any other nerf etc etc.
why?
bcoz that combo wasn't never tested
why 2?
bcause it works pretty fine out of town, everyday, at anytime, with everyone, and no1 is crying after pvp on buffs/pots
why 3?
bcoz I have everything and don't give a shiit about books etc.
why 4?
because maby normal ppl who knows their chars, and playstyle instead looking for PVP on entire MAP... without logging bot etc will go faster to olympiad get some fun...
why 5?
because all this pathetic river of tears which skills are OP and don't will stop don't believe me? PVPing everyday couple hours I've never seen any1 complaining just GF.. and next round...
why 6?
in couple words it's just bringing PVP from out of town to faken oly, where ppl should have same fun, and do not be scared of by pwning in unfair system they don't like to play
why 7?
I think every1 will find his personal reason to agree...
why not? just test it for 1 month
and plz oly farmers GFTO if you haven't anything interesting to say, bcoz in every topic you just spam and bullshit talk without any good reason. You don't give a shiit about this community, you never did... for you it's always good as it is.. next chronicles made for farmers/ the same chars indeed
and why should I make a char to go play in oly?
wtf? Isn't idea of oly to be hero, is to be the best player etc..? next year passing by and I know alot of players who deserve to be hero, just coming from out of town, make same fights in this small arena and finally being hero.
and why it isn't cry topic? for those who can't read without understanding, I wrote a rly fair rules, as I said I don't give a flying freak because I have everything I need, and I want to see this 80% of server siting in faken town and doing nothing to get their asses to oly manager and make some fun at least....
I voted no, because this is something that just like you said, you have access to out of town.
That would only feet you because you are PvP oriented, but this idea is silly, it's like you know this is the way you will farm oly, come on, we both know it, you are just willing to get the system that suits you, like everyone.
So, this would make selfbuff pvps vanish from Dnet, it's not even worth being talked about ( yet i did talk about as i post, and i did vote) i mean that Drake will never ever do that, therefore, no need to talk about it
there is no1 pvping on selfbuff, you are just scared of it, ye It will feed me? nope it give me a fun to fight some1 else,
than selfish, smartasses which trying to hold it as it is for another year
will feed me? how you know? if I finally meet xxx chars siting in town he? u rly think my char is so powerfull? silly
are you scared that some1 else get your hero status? books? too bad... I don't need them
last time I was hero, I was droping books in aden town (50 exactly, from 70 I had, rest gave to my friends and bro), so try to find another reason to don't let 90% of server have some fun at oly...
nerf Tk/PW 3UD =owerpowered ;[
Quote from: Ozukyz on June 10, 2009, 12:34:24 PM
nerf Tk/PW 3UD =owerpowered ;[
lol ? 3 ud ? how teh freak can it get 3 UD`s ? 1 ud with effect 1 and 1 with effect 2 and vengence (or wtf was it typed)?
Quote from: zthrx on June 10, 2009, 12:28:25 PM
there is no1 pvping on selfbuff
thats what i say, no selfbuff pvp except in oly, now take this off from oly
And now more selfbuff PvP at all in whole l2, this is why Drake will never do it, that was the point, i bet you got it now, yet we may disagree still but it's only due to the importance we give to selfbuff pvp.
Personally, about hte part blablabla afraid il lfeed me u wanna farm 1 more year blabla (i feel like saying QQ more btw) well, about this part, would full buff oly be done i would go with another combo and still get fun CAREFULL !! SPOILER and still roll oly [/SPOILER]
Quote from: MonkeyMonk on June 10, 2009, 12:37:34 PM
lol ? 3 ud ? how teh freak can it get 3 UD`s ? 1 ud with effect 1 and 1 with effect 2 and vengence (or wtf was it typed)?
UD lv 2 (TK) Vengeance , Shield of faith afaik
I voted yes even if i know this will never happen.
Oly can only be made more balanced by:
-Fullbuffing everybody
-Limiting the ammouth of buffs you can have to something like 5 buffs (it could also be made that you can only recieve buffs from the npc and wont be able to selfbuff yourself)
-Or by making it retail like.
Quote from: our4n0s on June 10, 2009, 12:44:25 PM
thats what i say, no selfbuff pvp except in oly, now take this off from oly
And now more selfbuff PvP at all in whole l2, this is why Drake will never do it, that was the point, i bet you got it now, yet we may disagree still but it's only due to the importance we give to selfbuff pvp.
Personally, about hte part blablabla afraid il lfeed me u wanna farm 1 more year blabla (i feel like saying QQ more btw) well, about this part, would full buff oly be done i would go with another combo and still get fun CAREFULL !! SPOILER and still roll oly [/SPOILER]
hehe if we take off selfbuff from oly it will give to like a 50-60% ppl on server with average items higher chances to "do anything".
Show me 3 (fresh) players who are goin in with A/S sets and tateo. (maby u'll find 1-2 max from 1k ppl online. Isn't this fact freaked up? 1k ppl online and 4ppl in a cross farming everyday? )
by holding this rules at it is, you've killed all fun which oly brings. You want new players on server, new players leaves this server seeing they are freaked at every step, and even it's an old server we don't do anything to keep them here. Is better for you to count any stupid reasons like: borrow stuff from some1 or join to some clan- ye maby, but tell it to the new players who aren't able to get some fun even at simple oly, which could bring them abit cash.
Because they are not even albe to make 50 pts to get books
I think it is, still hard to understand for you. And yea keep holding it as it is, I see plenty new players knocking to our server's door
big NO cause i am pp ::)
i voted "no" since there is not option "i dont give a freak,i m not oly whore"
I stay neutral in this case, just becouse one thing
to make better oly the easyest way is to reopen class based
and
lower the buff bonuses: (what the point to have a xx/pp when u have all buff there???)
points are still shared (harder, but still are)
Quote from: Dag on June 10, 2009, 02:50:24 PM
I stay neutral in this case, just becouse one thing
to make better oly the easyest way is to reopen class based
and
lower the buff bonuses: (what the point to have a xx/pp when u have all buff there???)
points are still shared (harder, but still are)
too much coding
really bad idea ... xD just imagine ... mage/tank on full buff or dagger/tank in full buff these class are maked to do pve not pvp or oly =) so i voted no =)
Quote from: Titan1 on June 10, 2009, 05:16:21 PM
really bad idea ... xD just imagine ... mage/tank on full buff or dagger/tank in full buff these class are maked to do pve not pvp or oly =) so i voted no =)
what? omg... 8)
Stupid idea, means you are nerfing buffer classes in oly just to benifit others. Robing the rich to feed the poor
Quote from: Zuluman on June 10, 2009, 08:06:28 PM
Stupid idea, means you are nerfing buffer classes in oly just to benifit others. Robing the rich to feed the poor
what nerf?
Every single person with a pp sub might aswell enter oly with an unsubbed char.... will they really havea chance against a nuker/tank when they are nuker/wasted oly sub
Quote from: Mohit0 on June 10, 2009, 09:02:42 PM
Robin Hood!
Indeed!!!
Why you never leave town anymore ??? ??? ???
Quote from: Zuluman on June 10, 2009, 09:05:55 PM
Indeed!!!
Why you never leave town anymore ??? ??? ???
i am going and check varka /bs / coliseum every time i am IG but god damn where the hell are everyone?
i wanna old good days at varka back, where mark is hiding? same cave as u Dead? :P
Quote from: Mohit0 on June 10, 2009, 09:53:46 PM
i am going and check varka /bs / coliseum every time i am IG but god damn where the hell are everyone?
i wanna old good days at varka back, where mark is hiding? same cave as u Dead? :P
sorry but only Temp (>50) after all big RB dissapears, going to their E-houses and having a tea in local Aden bar after good job. 8)
it might kill pp subs on olys, but even with potions, pp still will have tools to defend it self...
u ppl say.... with potions it will be like entering olys with a retail char or with a waste sub char, but actually pp's will have their own buffs plus pots and if it is mage will have empower!....so dont say that it will be a useless char on olys, cos it will be not!
and what about summoners, when u use erase on them, there u have a unsubbed char!....
imo good idea, zthruxxXXx1999xXxxX keep the good work/ideas. //unban sifacil!
I met luci today at oly, was rly pissed coz I lethaled him (my first lethal since 8 fights). And guess what luci, for me lethals can even don't exist when I'll have nice fun fighting.
But entering oly, and when you saw me, you were going with mind I'm just easy points. Every1 whos goin into oly think like that, and you was crying about (implement) fullbuff at the end of the fight because:
- as usually u didn't won
- as usually u didn't debuffed me
- as usually you hadn't alot of time to heal yourself and ur summon
- as usually you couldn't wait till my mana go down?
I'll tell you, fair pvp will be when I get same buffs, mana and we will see how good you are. till now today I met at oly only xx/pp.
Cheers PPzords (wtb normal classes/players finally), and gl out of town, if there wont change anything at oly 8)
Quote from: zthrx on June 10, 2009, 10:34:34 PM
I met luci today at oly, was rly pissed coz I lethaled him (my first lethal since 8 fights). And guess what luci, for me lethals can even don't exist when I'll have nice fun fighting.
But entering oly, and when you saw me, you were going with mind I'm just easy points. Every1 whos goin into oly think like that, and you was crying about (implement) fullbuff at the end of the fight because:
- as usually u didn't won
- as usually u didn't debuffed me
- as usually you hadn't alot of time to heal yourself and ur summon
- as usually you couldn't wait till my mana go down?
I'll tell you, fair pvp will be when I get same buffs, mana and we will see how good you are. till now today I met at oly only xx/pp.
Cheers PPzords (wtb normal classes/players finally), and gl out of town, if there wont change anything at oly 8)
I don't understand how you on fullbuffs will make it a fair pvp...luci has a pp sub, therefor you having fullbuffs means that his pp sub is now less effective. How is that fair? Onlyway oly can ever br "fair" is to remove stacking subs
Quote from: Zuluman on June 10, 2009, 10:56:13 PM
I don't understand how you on fullbuffs will make it a fair pvp...luci has a pp sub, therefor you having fullbuffs means that his pp sub is now less effective. How is that fair? Onlyway oly can ever br "fair" is to remove stacking subs
tell it to the 80% of server who doesn't go fight oly, and standing in town. GOT IT NOW? or you will fak sake defend this >20%< of server who will have to think with their freaking brains and use some tactic to kill ppl.
It's not impossible for me to make hero, but is almost imposible for any other classes
Quote from: zthrx on June 10, 2009, 10:59:28 PM
tell it to the 80% of server who doesn't go fight oly, and standing in town. GOT IT NOW? or you will fak sake defend this >20%< of server who will have to think with their freaking brains and use some tactic to kill ppl.
U starts to piss off, with your freaking lame and childish and selfish thinking...
It's not impossible for me to make hero, but is almost imposible for any other classes
Haha selfish?? Since when did i have a buffer support?? I see alot of pp subs in oly, ne/pp, glad/pp sorc/pp even da/pp, you are the one being selfish, trying to justify yourself having fullbuffs at the expense of others who you are all to willing to assist because they are a minority.
Fullbuffed oly is just a lame idea, it will just create more imbalences aswell as taking away from some support classes. And as for you match with luci, I saw it today, you leaathelled him when he had like 1/3 cp left and he said "bullbuffs ftw???""lolz". I don't call that flaming, its damn annoying to see people like you branding other selfish and shit when really you are only attempting to boost yourself.
Quote from: Zuluman on June 10, 2009, 11:09:08 PM
Haha selfish?? Since when did i have a buffer support?? I see alot of pp subs in oly, ne/pp, glad/pp sorc/pp even da/pp, you are the one being selfish, trying to justify yourself having fullbuffs at the expense of others who you are all to willing to assist because they are a minority.
Fullbuffed oly is just a lame idea, it will just create more imbalences aswell as taking away from some support classes. And as for you match with luci, I saw it today, you leaathelled him when he had like 1/3 cp left and he said "bullbuffs ftw???""lolz". I don't call that flaming, its damn annoying to see people like you branding other selfish and shit when really you are only attempting to boost yourself.
so it means, that all this pvps out of town, is just one unbalanced system gg, but no1 is crying about it there. rly rly interesting
about my case, read another topics if you want to touch me...
I wrote many good reasons to use my idea, you are just a spammer with nothing interesting to say. So bb plz
Quote from: zthrx on June 10, 2009, 10:34:34 PM
I met luci today at oly, was rly pissed coz I lethaled him (my first lethal since 8 fights). And guess what luci, for me lethals can even don't exist when I'll have nice fun fighting.
But entering oly, and when you saw me, you were going with mind I'm just easy points. Every1 whos goin into oly think like that, and you was crying about (implement) fullbuff at the end of the fight because:
- as usually u didn't won
- as usually u didn't debuffed me
- as usually you hadn't alot of time to heal yourself and ur summon
- as usually you couldn't wait till my mana go down?
I'll tell you, fair pvp will be when I get same buffs, mana and we will see how good you are. till now today I met at oly only xx/pp.
Cheers PPzords (wtb normal classes/players finally), and gl out of town, if there wont change anything at oly 8)
dude u got mental problems or what ? i meet u i though nothing i lost i didnt gave a flying freak and i made fun of ur fullbuffed oly.
what do u think word spins around u ?
as for acusing temps , wasnt u a temp ?
Quote from: Ozukyz on June 10, 2009, 12:34:24 PM
nerf Tk/PW 3UD =owerpowered ;[
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<3
U better guys dont mess with zthrx, hes known tk/pw on NM for a lone time -)))
Btw, greetings from me :DDD
Quote from: N1ght on June 11, 2009, 08:10:20 AM
U better guys dont mess with zthrx, hes known tk/pw on NM for a lone time -)))
Btw, greetings from me :DDD
8) hard to change smth, farmers lobby crying too much here, they are afraid to stop farming 1k points, where 80% of server can't even reach 50 ...pathetic
and gues what, nobody is saying loud here, that those classes can do 200- 1k poits hehe, is better to cry that if we add fullbuff and pots, which give to many ppl "bonus" they will get raped. No, you'll have competition smartasses, and u'll just lose some points more often. In short, it will balance ur score points with the rers of server, don't worry that you'll start to lose with everyone, bcoz now every average and non /pp/ee/etc have the same problem...
Aren't those classes fed as freak? i'm lazy to copy screens of "oly table" with every first place class, coz there didn't change much...
As I said I can even don't participate in oly if this idea would be added, coz you probably think I wanna change it, only for me. Failed coz I as said many time, being hero isn't for me impossible, and I was a lot of times, and I don't need anything.
You are just fakin afraid to change smth, bcoz
- it will stop ur farming,
- it will allow normal ppl to make over 50 points
- price of bogs will go down, so many ppl will be albe to enchant skills to +15 and more
coz for now only "top" rich and farmers are able to do that, and enchanted skills makes a rly, rly big difference in pvp.
Keep crying farmers, yes I hurts you so much with my idea, bcoz I think to make this serv more friendly, and want to see some new players.
Quote from: zthrx on June 11, 2009, 09:17:24 AM
8) hard to change smth, farmers lobby crying too much here, they are afraid to stop farming 1k points, where 80% of server can't even reach 50 ...pathetic
ask Astri how to reach 100+ pts with ur class u lame lowskill
Quote from: our4n0s on June 10, 2009, 12:25:32 PM
I voted no, because this is something that just like you said, you have access to out of town.
That would only feet you because you are PvP oriented, but this idea is silly, it's like you know this is the way you will farm oly, come on, we both know it, you are just willing to get the system that suits you, like everyone.
So, this would make selfbuff pvps vanish from Dnet, it's not even worth being talked about ( yet i did talk about as i post, and i did vote) i mean that Drake will never ever do that, therefore, no need to talk about it
Exactly why i voted no also!!
Oly on fullbuffs, just to say it, the simple fact of mentioning it, it's nonsence!
5 sec's fights.... no thx!
Quote from: cofo on June 11, 2009, 11:00:51 AM
ask Astri how to reach 100+ pts with ur class u lame lowskill
by meeting agil, or lucif anything else? don't tell me how many pts TK/PW can make, since no1 tk/pw on server was hero more times than me.
Astri is my good mate, used to talk from time to time about our chars. I prefer him as a hero than any other fake mage, using OP skills to make it...
Quote from: Javardsnegger on June 11, 2009, 11:45:28 AM
Exactly why i voted no also!!
Oly on fullbuffs, just to say it, the simple fact of mentioning it, it's nonsence!
5 sec's fights.... no thx!
if you know shiit plz leave ur comments for yourself.
I'm pvping couple hours daily and believe me, fights on fullbuff are as long as on self why?
because warrior can survive longer when he get max debufed (also have mana to selfheal) by mage etc. lazy to talk simple things
if u like good oly system try make olympiad games on retail (retail oly system as on oficial server)
Quote from: NiToPaMi on June 11, 2009, 01:33:11 PM
if u like good oly system try make olympiad games on retail (retail oly system as on oficial server)
now I can vote yes with two hands.
Remove subclass at oly and finally we will have normal pvp there.
i want my tyr/pal on oly with full buffs !!! pls
i will be not overpower ;/ shield of faith + force barier + zealot + AI + bizon and i dont kill all other players in 3 sec and tanks in 5 :)
Quote from: Kwas on June 11, 2009, 01:58:21 PM
i want my tyr/pal on oly with full buffs !!! pls
i will be not overpower ;/ shield of faith + force barier + zealot + AI + bizon and i dont kill all other players in 3 sec and tanks in 5 :)
I will pwn you for sure :*
anyway you can't participate with mutants 8)
but i want ..... :'(
remove stuck sub on oly ...is the only chance to make fair pvp
Quote from: darkdevilct on June 11, 2009, 02:25:14 PM
remove stuck sub on oly ...is the only chance to make fair pvp
but what is unfair when you play out of town?
since the beginning no1 wrote nothing about it, no cries, nothing... so what's the problem of add buffs and pots?
I'm still waiting for even 1 reason/ but objective plz
Quote from: kuko on June 11, 2009, 01:44:37 PM
now I can vote yes with two hands.
Remove subclass at oly and finally we will have normal pvp there.
Before talking about "normal" pvp go see some movies with oly fights on retail and reconsider please.
Quote from: cofo on June 11, 2009, 02:37:32 PM
Before talking about "normal" pvp go see some movies with oly fights on retail and reconsider please.
If u want I can send u tyran on retail?
Quote from: zthrx on June 10, 2009, 11:11:02 PM
so it means, that all this pvps out of town, is just one unbalanced system gg, but no1 is crying about it there. rly rly interesting
about my case, read another topics if you want to touch me...
this is a stupid remark, you are comparing outside town pvp with oly one, considering both would be on full buffs, and claiming that outside town it is balanced...
But outside town we a Team PvP, not at all the same with 1 v 1 PvP, you can't even start to deny it seriously, oly with full buffs would still be unbalanced, because some combo are unbeatable when it comes to 1 v 1 while at a mass PVP they wont be that strong at all...
l2 basics dude.
Tho if you really find a nerf, or just change, however you call it, that makes a balanced Oly, well then i would say yes definitely, guess i already earned enough cash out of it really ;>
But full buffs, as i said... some 1 v 1 ruler would come and rape everyone
Quote from: cofo on June 11, 2009, 02:37:32 PM
Before talking about "normal" pvp go see some movies with oly fights on retail and reconsider please.
stop with that retail shit, this is nm, not a retail server u.u
Quote from: zthrx on June 11, 2009, 12:32:09 PM
if you know shiit plz leave ur comments for yourself.
Sorry, you can't repeat a karma action without waiting 24 hours.
Haaayyyyyaaaaaaaaaa
You active the disactived base class oly, you make it a non based class, What's the point?
Well, you add a feature, every character that reaches more than, let's say 100 points (idea is that it can be between 70 and 100 pts) gets an item that makes him not able anymore to join this First non based class oly.
Then he can only join the second non based class oly, let's call it the no life farmer oly :D, let's say the 8 first stages for the farmers olympiad and the rest = 12 i guess for the mere mortals players.
This way, even if some guys is strong, or just lucky with opponents (like some pp sorc could reach 100 pts) but wishes to remain on the 'fun olympiad', he can give a few wins, making sure he won't enter the farmers area.
Or even better, but may be harder to code, you lose the item when you drop under 100 pts
This way the more deep in the month we go, the more 'nooby' is the low pts olympiad.
Guess with some smartass this sh1T wouldn't even need much coding
Quote from: our4n0s on June 11, 2009, 03:27:17 PM
oly with full buffs would still be unbalanced, because some combo are unbeatable when it comes to 1 v 1
oh rly? and what is it now? next year on and on the same heroes? what was you talking about? unbeatable...?
I'm wondering how many they would be. Even there will be 10x more classes who will have chances to pwn same as curent /pp makes, and you still defending curent /pp lobby jesus... no balls to test new ideas/ changes?
Quote from: our4n0s on June 11, 2009, 05:05:49 PM
You active the disactived base class oly, you make it a non based class, What's the point?
Well, you add a feature, every character that reaches more than, let's say 100 points (idea is that it can be between 70 and 100 pts) gets an item that makes him not able anymore to join this First non based class oly.
Then he can only join the second non based class oly, let's call it the no life farmer oly :D, let's say the 8 first stages for the farmers olympiad and the rest = 12 i guess for the mere mortals players.
This way, even if some guys is strong, or just lucky with opponents (like some pp sorc could reach 100 pts) but wishes to remain on the 'fun olympiad', he can give a few wins, making sure he won't enter the farmers area.
Or even better, but may be harder to code, you lose the item when you drop under 100 pts
This way the more deep in the month we go, the more 'nooby' is the low pts olympiad.
Guess with some smartass this sh1T wouldn't even need much coding
no better: make it based on points- if you have 20-40, system will chose a guy from this point section and so on. If you reach >40-60 ull fight only with ppl with that points score.... So if some nabs start fight, they won't be afraid to meet a farmer who have already >100
but system would work nice, with a bigger amount of players, also not too much to code ;)
There is no doubt that Idea of full buffs olympiad games is just silly and that would totaly kill buffer/sws/bd subs , most of ppl are still stick to that subs although they are weak as hell just for oly and supporting clan , afull buffed olympiad games would be aheaven of tankers , pure nukers and ty/des that would have the highest privileges to take down any thing starting with zealot and frenzy + full buffs in that tight olympiad stadium ,
ofc we all hope that olympiad games become more fun again , But not only removing agumentations from Oly would make balance among all classes but it's ofc an priority to start with , for that I suggest too
double reuse time of mana burn .
remove effect of arcana agility on mana burn .
Increase the size of olympiad stadium , remove the cages so we could know the opponent and prepare .
increase the number of buffs and buff options at that guard inside olympiad stadium to reduce the domination of buffers subs .
as I see most of ppl who made suggestions about olympiad games they only want their own profit of it and they are not working for the euqality and 50% 50% chances , THERE IS NO FUN IN WINNING JUST COZ U R OVER POWERED .
so why not to add option before participating:
* I want to participate in oly in selfbuff system
* I want to participate in oly with buffs and potions
than wait month how many ppl will participate, isn't that hard? than supporters would still fight as they want and share those kkkk of points between themeselves and rest of server would have own oly
tAdA
Quote from: zthrx on June 11, 2009, 06:13:20 PM
so why not to add option before participating:
* I want to participate in oly in selfbuff system
* I want to participate in oly with buffs and potions
than wait month how many ppl will participate, isn't that hard? than supporters would still fight as they want and share those kkkk of points between themeselves and rest of server would have own oly
tAdA
I don't like this idea too coz some buffers have privileges more than others so it's wont be afair to get for example se/xx for example with pp/xx in self buff match , and it would be hard to choose for some classes such wk/bp that if he joined self buffs option abuffers would have the high hand on him , and if he joined full buffs option he would like to have his pet buffed too or others full buffed opponents would just 1 shot kill his cat .
Quote from: SysTemHacK on June 11, 2009, 06:35:50 PM
I don't like this idea too coz some buffers have privileges more than others so it's wont be afair to get for example se/xx for example with pp/xx in self buff match , and it would be hard to choose for some classes such wk/bp that if he joined self buffs option abuffers would have the high hand on him , and if he joined full buffs option he would like to have his pet buffed too or others full buffed opponents would just 1 shot kill his cat .
omg you drama too much... you have no idea how it would go, and what ppl would chose. All PP classes for sure stay in selfbuff option, and you never know who would you meet in buffed one, where finally server take asses from town to oly... In fact you fight with just couple combos at oly not vs. all others who don't even think to go having 0 chances...
Quote from: zthrx on June 11, 2009, 07:06:56 PM
omg you drama too much... you have no idea how it would go, and what ppl would chose. All PP classes for sure stay in selfbuff option, and you never know who would you meet in buffed one, where finally server take asses from town to oly... In fact you fight with just couple combos at oly not vs. all others who don't even think to go oly having 0 chances...
I am not over reacting about it , I am just looking for the highest degree of equality , I have said my opinion and I would like to hear other suggestions .
ye the curent oly system made, that you can write here only 20%max (you know) DN sub combos fighting at oly all the time. just think how many combos almost never participate, or just to be on the list...
U'll think how to doesn't hurt support classes instead how to change this crap system to fit it to the whole community.
Quote from: zthrx on June 11, 2009, 05:49:09 PM
no better: make it based on points- if you have 20-40, system will chose a guy from this point section and so on. If you reach >40-60 ull fight only with ppl with that points score.... So if some nabs start fight, they won't be afraid to meet a farmer who have already >100
but system would work nice, with a bigger amount of players, also not too much to code ;)
your system requires imo way more coding, though i never coded and i mb better shut the freak up about it xD
but since anyway, as you said, requires too many players
Quote from: zthrx on June 11, 2009, 06:13:20 PM
so why not to add option before participating:
* I want to participate in oly in selfbuff system
* I want to participate in oly with buffs and potions
than wait month how many ppl will participate, isn't that hard? than supporters would still fight as they want and share those kkkk of points between themeselves and rest of server would have own oly
tAdA
I don't like it, i don't like the idea of letting ppl chose :-X yet it could be used on some try mode at least, but doubt they wish to code just some test
than what, still doing nothing ? ::)
Just disable oly and get on with it!
Quote from: zthrx on June 11, 2009, 06:13:20 PM
so why not to add option before participating:
* I want to participate in oly in selfbuff system
* I want to participate in oly with buffs and potions
than wait month how many ppl will participate, isn't that hard? than supporters would still fight as they want and share those kkkk of points between themeselves and rest of server would have own oly
tAdA
Not a bad idea. But what do you consider as fullbuffs? Songs + dances + pp buffs? How will you choose all these buffs in the 45 seconds?
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on June 11, 2009, 10:49:35 PM
Not a bad idea. But what do you consider as fullbuffs? Songs + dances + pp buffs? How will you choose all these buffs in the 45 seconds?
pp buffs, mana pots, def pots
after all get statistic how many players chose which option. I guess more fun will get the second... my honest opinion 8)
Quote from: zthrx on June 11, 2009, 11:49:03 PM
pp buffs, mana pots, def pots
after all get statistic how many players chose which option. I guess more fun will get the second... my honest opinion 8)
It sounds nice, much more subs would be able to have fun, probably more people would join oly but this will just never happen :-X
u already had pp buff o.O or u want even greater shield pof? so u fuk all the pp xD
Quote from: Titan1 on June 12, 2009, 12:19:06 AM
u already had pp buff o.O or u want even greater shield pof? so u fuk all the pp xD
those pp buffs gives nothing, since daggers need just atk speed (archers need, glads need and so on) and mana to spam blows.
Mages use 2-3 skills (except xxx debufs) but the rest of subs needs to use 3x more and need xxx mana to even fight, coz after 30s every1 is out of mana (during mages even heals to the end of the fight...)
I can even write here, how many skills I use and how many at oly, just to have mana for blows... >.> and when every >3rd< doesn't work...
And currently they doesn't get anything of it.. thats why even you can chose some buffs at least, there is still same amount of ppl at oly= nothing's changed
yes to mana, combats/swift and ww pots on oly :)
make oly just for retails. .... its the best idea cause even dwarf could kill ............ every class would have chance's to kill each other
Quote from: jygh on June 12, 2009, 01:05:58 PM
make oly just for retails. .... its the best idea cause even dwarf could kill ............ every class would have chance's to kill each other
exactly
Quote from: zthrx on June 10, 2009, 12:16:44 PM
here you go 2 short topics about it
http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,192095.0.html
http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,192111.0.html
and what I'm thinking? it's easiest to code than apply any other nerf etc etc.
why?
bcoz that combo wasn't never tested
why 2?
bcause it works pretty fine out of town, everyday, at anytime, with everyone, and no1 is crying after pvp on buffs/pots
why 3?
bcoz I have everything and don't give a shiit about books etc.
why 4?
because maby normal ppl who knows their chars, and playstyle instead looking for PVP on entire MAP... without logging bot etc will go faster to olympiad get some fun...
why 5?
because all this pathetic river of tears which skills are OP and don't will stop don't believe me? PVPing everyday couple hours I've never seen any1 complaining just GF.. and next round...
why 6?
in couple words it's just bringing PVP from out of town to faken oly, where ppl should have same fun, and do not be scared of by pwning in unfair system they don't like to play
why 7?
I think every1 will find his personal reason to agree...
why not? just test it for 1 month
and plz oly farmers GFTO if you haven't anything interesting to say, bcoz in every topic you just spam and bullshit talk without any good reason. You don't give a shiit about this community, you never did... for you it's always good as it is.. next chronicles made for farmers/ the same chars indeed
and why should I make a char to go play in oly?
wtf? Isn't idea of oly to be hero, is to be the best player etc..? next year passing by and I know alot of players who deserve to be hero, just coming from out of town, make same fights in this small arena and finally being hero.
and why it isn't cry topic? for those who can't read without understanding, I wrote a rly fair rules, as I said I don't give a flying freak because I have everything I need, and I want to see this 80% of server siting in faken town and doing nothing to get their asses to oly manager and make some fun at least....
agreeeeeeeee with zthrx he have right 100%
make end for this topic and make all players happy
did GM's can make olympiad system like oficial server fight in retail ?
will be not more any coments and solve this problem forever.
all clases will have same chance to win
Lol this idea is insane. Oly never wasnt as balanced as it now, only 2 thing are freaked up - mana burn and stone auguments but i got solution on this problem - just participate when agil or laymedown is fighting :D Guys better focus on fighting oly than crying here, i asure you that you will find ur own combo to own xx/pp chars, just gain skills in playin' ur char in oly and it will became funny ;)
Quote from: Soltys on June 12, 2009, 05:36:28 PM
Lol this idea is insane. Oly never wasnt as balanced as it now, only 2 thing are freaked up - mana burn and stone auguments but i got solution on this problem - just participate when agil or laymedown is fighting :D Guys better focus on fighting oly than crying here, i asure you that you will find ur own combo to own xx/pp chars, just gain skills in playin' ur char in oly and it will became funny ;)
u rly knows a few talking thats kind of shiit w/o any objective ideas... even is it a joke... ::)
Quote from: zthrx on June 12, 2009, 05:41:15 PM
u rly knows a few talking thats kind of shiit w/o any objective ideas... even is it a joke... ::)
cuz there is no ideas needed, oly is good like it is now just learn to play ur char w/o fullbuff
Quote from: Soltys on June 12, 2009, 06:30:32 PM
cuz there is no ideas needed, oly is good like it is now just learn to play ur char w/o fullbuff
I didn't figured out that I'm still noob, thx 8) lets leave it as it is
Quote from: our4n0s on June 10, 2009, 12:25:32 PM
I voted no, because this is something that just like you said, you have access to out of town.
That would only feet you because you are PvP oriented, but this idea is silly, it's like you know this is the way you will farm oly, come on, we both know it, you are just willing to get the system that suits you, like everyone.
So, this would make selfbuff pvps vanish from Dnet, it's not even worth being talked about ( yet i did talk about as i post, and i did vote) i mean that Drake will never ever do that, therefore, no need to talk about it
like current one is suiting you?
i can't see any difference.
imo: disable olympiad <3
Quote from: Devil on June 12, 2009, 06:58:47 PM
like current one is suiting you?
kinda exact words imo...
Putting pots on oly (mana pots) will make most of mage vs mage fights dmg fights because with mana u can always heal till end of time.
Quote from: cofo on June 12, 2009, 07:36:43 PM
Putting pots on oly (mana pots) will make most of mage vs mage fights dmg fights because with mana u can always heal till end of time.
even without mana pots, mages heals themeselves till the end of the fight 8)
Quote from: zthrx on June 13, 2009, 12:56:29 AM
even without mana pots, mages heals themeselves till the end of the fight 8)
one word:
owned!
Quote from: Gunit on June 13, 2009, 03:07:27 AM
one word:
owned!
guess I need to make some movies to show you that....
Potions idea not acceptable for many reasons , first some potions can't go with olympiad style like HP / MP / CP Elixirs and CP potions too that would make matches endless since on self low damage , and even if some potions allowed and some not , ww / acumen / haste potions would take away worrior/mage pane from summoners and necros , for mana potions inside oly that would reduce the value of mana burn skill which is not fair to totaly kill it , managing ur mana inside olympiad games is apart of it and that would kill the only chance for amage depend on mana burn skill to kill a Gladiators , Tyrants , Assassins .
useing mana potions would be anot fair nerfe for mana burn , Indeed mana burn for now it's in need for abit of nerf specially when useing it on arcana agility , but lets not over reacting about it .
Quote from: SysTemHacK on June 13, 2009, 03:59:30 AM
Potions idea not acceptable for many reasons , first some potions can't go with olympiad style like HP / MP / CP Elixirs and CP potions too that would make matches endless since on self low damage , and even if some potions allowed and some not , ww / acumen / haste potions would take away worrior/mage pane from summoners and necros , for mana potions inside oly that would reduce the value of mana burn skill which is not fair to totaly kill it , managing ur mana inside olympiad games is apart of it and that would kill the only chance for amage depend on mana burn skill to kill a Gladiators , Tyrants , Assassins .
useing mana potions would be anot fair nerfe for mana burn , Indeed mana burn for now it's in need for abit of nerf specially when useing it on arcana agility , but lets not over reacting about it .
u drama so much jesus... can't you accept to information smth like "test", instead every1 trying to be nostradamus knowing shiit how it will work in whole "combo system and affect on fights"...
just a thought:
make Oly like official..let's taste something from the original L2....L2 as it was meant to be played!!!
this can happen if:
lets say you're TY/OL
you join in TY stats
by the moment you register for a match and move to Oly stadium both active and passive skills from OL are dissabled.
by the end of the month,the one with more points as Tyrant..IS the BETTER Tyrant in each server(cause of skills/items)..and not some OP beast that got his points on Olympiad-weak classes!!
and when you go to the Oly manager to become hero(get hero aura etc..) you keep all your skills as TY/OL.
dunno if Drake can code this..but in my opinion this would balance the Oly+it adds a unique feature to the network which can get new ppl here.
an other,more simple solution would be that you can only join Oly with your Retail class
by the end of the month we have the best player of each class as hero BUT in order to gain hero aura/hero "spam"/BOGs/etc...you have to sacrifice your DN-subclass!!!
Everything comes with a price..
You win something...you lose something...
and those with better items/skills/whatever have still more chances to win,in both options given,so they won't cry
just my opinion
Quote from: Morbid_Angel on June 14, 2009, 08:05:20 PM
just a thought:
make Oly like official..let's taste something from the original L2....L2 as it was meant to be played!!!
this can happen if:
lets say you're TY/OL
you join in TY stats
by the moment you register for a match and move to Oly stadium both active and passive skills from OL are dissabled.
by the end of the month,the one with more points as Tyrant..IS the BETTER Tyrant in each server(cause of skills/items)..and not some OP beast that got his points on Olympiad-weak classes!!
and when you go to the Oly manager to become hero(get hero aura etc..) you keep all your skills as TY/OL.
dunno if Drake can code this..but in my opinion this would balance the Oly+it adds a unique feature to the network which can get new ppl here.
an other,more simple solution would be that you can only join Oly with your Retail class
by the end of the month we have the best player of each class as hero BUT in order to gain hero aura/hero "spam"/BOGs/etc...you have to sacrifice your DN-subclass!!!
Everything comes with a price..
You win something...you lose something...
and those with better items/skills/whatever have still more chances to win,in both options given,so they won't cry
just my opinion
that would be great.
Quote from: Morbid_Angel on June 14, 2009, 08:05:20 PM
just a thought:
make Oly like official..let's taste something from the original L2....L2 as it was meant to be played!!!
this can happen if:
lets say you're TY/OL
you join in TY stats
by the moment you register for a match and move to Oly stadium both active and passive skills from OL are dissabled.
by the end of the month,the one with more points as Tyrant..IS the BETTER Tyrant in each server(cause of skills/items)..and not some OP beast that got his points on Olympiad-weak classes!!
and when you go to the Oly manager to become hero(get hero aura etc..) you keep all your skills as TY/OL.
dunno if Drake can code this..but in my opinion this would balance the Oly+it adds a unique feature to the network which can get new ppl here.
an other,more simple solution would be that you can only join Oly with your Retail class
by the end of the month we have the best player of each class as hero BUT in order to gain hero aura/hero "spam"/BOGs/etc...you have to sacrifice your DN-subclass!!!
Everything comes with a price..
You win something...you lose something...
and those with better items/skills/whatever have still more chances to win,in both options given,so they won't cry
just my opinion
+2
no ofc ::)