WHAT GIVES THE NEW SUBSYSTEM?
Everyone knows that you can get one single DNET subclass and you can add it to your main class or to your retail subclass. You can take it only once and you can choose classes only of your race. That's all.
The new subclass system plays around the concept of retail subclasses and add more spicy things...
1- you can DNET subclass EACH class you have. Means you can subclass your Main and also all your retail subclasses. This means you get 4 DNET subclasses, one for each retail class.
2- the DNET subclasses linked to your retail subclasses are REMOVABLE. Yes, the main one remains binded forever with your char (like now) but the other three are freely removable! This adds more replayability of the same char
3- hybrids. No one seems liked them... so... hybrid will be removed, with the new system you will be able to choose a class of the same race of the class you are. Means that if you are Paladin, you can subclass only to other human subclasses, if you are Warcryer (but human) you can subclass only to orc subclasses.
4- finally got rid of the bug that some players was getting crash when doing some combos Tongue
ANYWAY, i got lots of questions about the new system... NO, you don't get 4 subclasses stacking! you get 1 subclass for each retail class (that are in total 4)! Anyway i will write a small faq that will be shown on the new upcoming (and of course: gorgeous) website for DNET (ya, that temp one was quite sucking)
Drake wrote these last year. Why he didn't continue this one? Is drake still with DNET?
seriously.
Its more likely that Santa Clause himself comes from the Northpole and creates a forum account to post here, then Drake ever posting here again.
seriously.
Who is that 'drake' guy? :o
Quote from: xenoDjinn on October 04, 2009, 02:04:20 AM
WHAT GIVES THE NEW SUBSYSTEM?
Everyone knows that you can get one single DNET subclass and you can add it to your main class or to your retail subclass. You can take it only once and you can choose classes only of your race. That's all.
The new subclass system plays around the concept of retail subclasses and add more spicy things...
1- you can DNET subclass EACH class you have. Means you can subclass your Main and also all your retail subclasses. This means you get 4 DNET subclasses, one for each retail class.
2- the DNET subclasses linked to your retail subclasses are REMOVABLE. Yes, the main one remains binded forever with your char (like now) but the other three are freely removable! This adds more replayability of the same char
3- hybrids. No one seems liked them... so... hybrid will be removed, with the new system you will be able to choose a class of the same race of the class you are. Means that if you are Paladin, you can subclass only to other human subclasses, if you are Warcryer (but human) you can subclass only to orc subclasses.
4- finally got rid of the bug that some players was getting crash when doing some combos Tongue
ANYWAY, i got lots of questions about the new system... NO, you don't get 4 subclasses stacking! you get 1 subclass for each retail class (that are in total 4)! Anyway i will write a small faq that will be shown on the new upcoming (and of course: gorgeous) website for DNET (ya, that temp one was quite sucking)
Drake wrote these last year. Why he didn't continue this one? Is drake still with DNET?
He is, he do read forum but he doesn't post here cause obvious reasons ..
Quote from: xenoDjinn on October 04, 2009, 02:04:20 AM
WHAT GIVES THE NEW SUBSYSTEM?
Everyone knows that you can get one single DNET subclass and you can add it to your main class or to your retail subclass. You can take it only once and you can choose classes only of your race. That's all.
The new subclass system plays around the concept of retail subclasses and add more spicy things...
1- you can DNET subclass EACH class you have. Means you can subclass your Main and also all your retail subclasses. This means you get 4 DNET subclasses, one for each retail class.
2- the DNET subclasses linked to your retail subclasses are REMOVABLE. Yes, the main one remains binded forever with your char (like now) but the other three are freely removable! This adds more replayability of the same char
3- hybrids. No one seems liked them... so... hybrid will be removed, with the new system you will be able to choose a class of the same race of the class you are. Means that if you are Paladin, you can subclass only to other human subclasses, if you are Warcryer (but human) you can subclass only to orc subclasses.
4- finally got rid of the bug that some players was getting crash when doing some combos Tongue
ANYWAY, i got lots of questions about the new system... NO, you don't get 4 subclasses stacking! you get 1 subclass for each retail class (that are in total 4)! Anyway i will write a small faq that will be shown on the new upcoming (and of course: gorgeous) website for DNET (ya, that temp one was quite sucking)
Drake wrote these last year. Why he didn't continue this one? Is drake still with DNET?
Keep mutants imo...
Quote from: TrackZero on October 04, 2009, 10:33:41 AM
He is, he do read forum but he doesn't post here cause obvious reasons ..
explain. the reasons aren't so obvious to me. thank you :)
Quote from: Atta on October 04, 2009, 05:37:23 PM
explain. the reasons aren't so obvious to me. thank you :)
Cause ppl would go even more crazy and post sh1ts daily, about stuff which they think should be nerf and cry how other guy/girl got IC weps and they don't so it OP.
Good reason enough?
no.
this is not at all a good reason.
"a great power means great responsibilities"
;)
@xenoDjinn
by the way, to answer your post that was locked...
they went to a server where admin doesn't hide and who is really improving his servers and where updates are like these:
where are kamael skills? where are traps? when will bleeding on hellbound be fixed at night?...where are the pets once more?
Quote04/10/2009
* - Fixed Frintezza teleporter (2 party inside door, 3 party outside).
* - Fixed Attribute Master HTM as retail.
* - Fixed Olympiad Ranking HTM.
* - Removed Skill Residential Shock Immunity from olympiad forbidden skill.
* - Fixed Skill Evade Shot Magic Level.
* - Fixed Skill Seal of Binding Chance activate rate.
* - Fixed Skill Expose Weak Point Effect.
* - Fixed Sublime Self Sacrifice Skill Effects Syntax.
* - Fixed Skill Soul Harmony recharge MP for every party member.
* - New fix for pet exp table fenrir.
* - Trap fix.
* - Hellbound stage fix.
* - Updated stage 6 Hellbound.
* - Fixed Alarm for Baylor.
* - Started development for Hellbound Stage 7
01/10/2009
* - Fixed Baylor AI.
* - Rebalanced Hellbound monsters.
* - Stage 5 fixed.
* - Updated Hellbound npc with retail dialog.
* - Reworked Inspector skillacquire.
* - Optimized Skill Sublime Self-Sacrifice.
* - Fixed Skill Salvation, added HP - MP restore.
* - Fixed Skill Dark Armor Magic Level.
* - Fixed Special Ability Light skill level.
* - Leodas Hellbound raid updates. Added weapon to leodas.
* - Added lethal protection to all hellbound raid.
* - Fixed Kamael cannot equip class specific circlet.
* - Fixed Skill Dark Flame.
* - Fixed Skill Spread Wing.
* - Fixed Some Skill Operate Condition.
* - Fixed Skill Prahnah conflict with Greater Shield - Might skills.
* - Exp table fixed.
* - Summon lvl fix
* - Monster lvl fix.
* - Fixed bug on mob level over 87.
* - Raised trust point for quarry slaves.
* - Fixed all stats for Hellbound monsters..
27/09/2009
* - Hellbound Stage update fix.
* - Symbol and Fusion skill fixed.
* - Hellbound developed till stage 5.
* - Fixed Master Noir (Kamael Guild Giran).
* - Fixed Npc Derek (hellbound).
* - Fixed Skill Blessing of Eva operate condition.
* - Fixed Npc Dolmen Collision
* - added Enchant Route for "Heavy Armor Mastery" (Prophet)
22/09/2009
* - Fixed Monster cancel.
* - Added full drop to Baylor Chest.
* - Fixed drop for some Hellbound mob.
* - Fixed hellbound bleed.
* - Fixed Grand Master Liane (Kamael Guild Aden).
* - Fixed Grand Master Brome (Kamael Guild Aden).
* - Fixed Mob SP as retail (Isle of Prayer - Hellbound).
* - Fixed Archeologist Yiyen with retail htm (Dark Cloud Mansion).
* - Fixed hellbound skill effect.
* - Updated rate for ancient tome Hellbound
* - Some fix for darkcloud mansion.
* - Fixed Skill Contagion.
* - Fixed Skill Crushing Pain Magic Level.
..........
Quote from: ehlena on October 04, 2009, 07:21:27 PM
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drake can't post this cuz he usually buys already coded stuff from other ppl xd
Quote from: ehlena on October 04, 2009, 07:21:27 PM
@xenoDjinn
by the way, to answer your post that was locked...
they went to a server where admin doesn't hide and who is really improving his servers and where updates are like these:
where are kamael skills? where are traps? when will bleeding on hellbound be fixed at night?...where are the pets once more?
I loled at your list of "fixed things" if you read better, those things 90% of written already working on DN since long period of time, u want me to write each skill that we fix just to show that we fix something every day, blah that's lame adming, we do fix every day something or tweak it up, if i start to write the list of things that we are fixing we can look same as the shits u quoted. If you consider traps and kaemels not working comparing to all that is working then i am sorry but u are total nub who don't respect even 1 minute of my time. We do have all 80+ skills working (1 or 2 need to tweaked up), we do have enchant skills working and pets all working, we just TEMP disable them because there is an exploit leaking, so better temp disable it then rollback server xxx days.Then why you never mention stability of our servers comparing to others, why don't u compare how long we do exist comparing to other servers.... none of admins are hiding, i am here daily writing something for community and keep informing everyone? Am i am hiding? Do i work here? So if drake don't post on forum it means he is dead? NO, so stop spreading lies and bs, if u get bored of l2 its ur own problem quit it but don't spell the lies here, and however drake do post his updates in client , why it have to be on forum? So let me conclude all this, we are much alive server with a lot of updates (just check NM x30 announcement section and think a bit). we just don't think we should be proud of something like "EY OMG WE FIX OLY BUFF LETS SPAM THE FORUM", and in the end put on the libra all things that does work and the things that doesn't work , and then come here and talk otherwise go return where u are now and don't even speak on this forum.
Damn ur bullshits pissed me off 2 much.
//Care
P.S. I bet on server u say is sooo omg good at least 5 serious exploits working.
Quote from: Atta on October 04, 2009, 05:37:23 PM
explain. the reasons aren't so obvious to me. thank you :)
Because why wasting time on reading useless topics like this for example, it will just annoy u 2 much and kill all motivation to work and code. He have people around him who inform him which topics he should read , and he does read, and there all story ends.
(You don't know what i am talking about? Go to dragon x15 general and infinity x5 general and read topics and posts a bit and count useless ones and count idiots ones)
Quote from: TrackZero on October 04, 2009, 07:54:25 PM
I loled at your list of "fixed things" if you read better, those things 90% of written already working on DN since long period of time, u want me to write each skill that we fix just to show that we fix something every day, blah that's lame adming, we do fix every day something or tweak it up, if i start to write the list of things that we are fixing we can look same as the shits u quoted. If you consider traps and kaemels not working comparing to all that is working then i am sorry but u are total nub who don't respect even 1 minute of my time. We do have all 80+ skills working (1 or 2 need to tweaked up), we do have enchant skills working and pets all working, we just TEMP disable them because there is an exploit leaking, so better temp disable it then rollback server xxx days.Then why you never mention stability of our servers comparing to others, why don't u compare how long we do exist comparing to other servers.... none of admins are hiding, i am here daily writing something for community and keep informing everyone? Am i am hiding? Do i work here? So if drake don't post on forum it means he is dead? NO, so stop spreading lies and bs, if u get bored of l2 its ur own problem quit it but don't spell the lies here, and however drake do post his updates in client , why it have to be on forum? So let me conclude all this, we are much alive server with a lot of updates (just check NM x30 announcement section and think a bit). we just don't think we should be proud of something like "EY OMG WE FIX OLY BUFF LETS SPAM THE FORUM", and in the end put on the libra all things that does work and the things that doesn't work , and then come here and talk otherwise go return where u are now and don't even speak on this forum.
Damn ur bullshits pissed me off 2 much.
//Care
P.S. I bet on server u say is sooo omg good at least 5 serious exploits working.
I bet that could increase ppl morale and convince that some1 care about server and bugs not only about donation :) because only announces we had in last months on dragon was like "new paypal donation system is ready" or "go check dony update"
Year ago dragon had 2 times more players so i think its time to change something. We all saw how fast coders work here, we had all interlude w/o frintezza sailren etc so isn't that joke ?? :) What about dungeons in HB ?? what about baylor beleth or elemental attribute system ?? i know Dony update has higher priority :) shit happens
when we tested HB on arena half year ago we ( me and nicedrain ) made bug list about 150 positions and that wasn't all :) how many got fixed since those days ?? about 20 thats sad.
did you saw other server where GMs play as normal players also ?? it wouldn't be a problem if we didn't had situations in which GM is giving ban and changing passwords of someone's account to take items which his friend dropped. I should add also banning enemy or teleporting clan mates inside valakas nest :)
I can repeat and now I'm 100% sure that showing ppl that some1 is working to fix bugs will make ppl feel better
Quote from: TrackZero on October 04, 2009, 07:54:25 PM
P.S. I bet on server u say is sooo omg good at least 5 serious exploits working.
I bet they don't have problems with L2phx and L2w as DN :)
you know what is difference between this server and DN ?? if they say "after 2 weeks will be Hellbound update" that means they got 80 % working HB and they will open it after those 2 weeks not after year since they announce it like here on DN and with 10% of real HB :) shame
GN
PS last announce from dragon "new update at dony soon" ROFL
Quote from: Fx5000 on October 04, 2009, 11:36:02 PM
I bet that could increase ppl morale and convince that some1 care about server and bugs not only about donation :) because only announces we had in last months on dragon was like "new paypal donation system is ready" or "go check dony update"
Year ago dragon had 2 times more players so i think its time to change something. We all saw how fast coders work here, we had all interlude w/o frintezza sailren etc so isn't that joke ?? :) What about dungeons in HB ?? what about baylor beleth or elemental attribute system ?? i know Dony update has higher priority :) shit happens
when we tested HB on arena half year ago we ( me and nicedrain ) made bug list about 150 positions and that wasn't all :) how many got fixed since those days ?? about 20 thats sad.
did you saw other server where GMs play as normal players also ?? it wouldn't be a problem if we didn't had situations in which GM is giving ban and changing passwords of someone's account to take items which his friend dropped. I should add also banning enemy or teleporting clan mates inside valakas nest :)
I can repeat and now I'm 100% sure that showing ppl that some1 is working to fix bugs will make ppl feel better
you know what is difference between this server and DN ?? if they say "after 2 weeks will be Hellbound update" that means they got 80 % working HB and they will open it after those 2 weeks not after year since they announce it like here on DN and with 10% of real HB :) shame
GN
Is dragon x15 only server in DN? If u hate it that much change it to infinity/arena / nightmare and try ur luck there maybe?
I have read your whole post and i notice that ur main complain is "corruption on dragon x15", ill answer you with previous sentence as well, re-read it again.
About working HB, well all those things that they made "fix" on other server working on DN already,except few of them that we will fix, but question is how other servers are stable and "fixed with dupes and exploits", did u ever ask urself that? Wanna bet that on various servers atm there is more then 2 dupes and more then 3 serious exploits they dont even know it exists? So you wanna tell me u prefer play on some "super fast update server" and waste weeks,months then admins find out about dupes and in how deep shits they are and "WIPE,ROOLBACK, CLOSE SERVER", then come back on DN again. (You want me to remind u of 2-3 servers in recent history that all were flooding OMG THEY R BEST SERVER DN WILL DIE BALBALA , and boom after months they closed , i even loled on pics 100000000000 ppl in starting villages).
You are speaking about donny and announcement sections, did u ever bother to check Announcement section of Nightmare x30? What is the problem of checking client updates text as well? If drake writes updates there , does he show he do care for community? Must be a forum again? Also , about when we say 1 eta and then keep delaying, it is for simple reason once u start doing something u make estimate time to finish it , but while u work some new issues poops out and boom it just keep delaying it,is not that we really wanna delay it. You think DN staff wouldn't like to open all best updates in 5 days? Its simply not impossible,because all of us have pvt life too and work there, and DN is well known of stability so we prefer to open stable and secure client more then fast and crap one, u should know that if u play long here.
And in the end, about population, u miss 1 simple fact: L2 and DN exists like what, 5+ years almost 6, most of ppl are bored after many years not cause of DN , cause of Lineage 2 game , they didn't find new fun and luck on some new l2xxxx server nope they tried new server and quit for good since they got bored of it, 2nd fact count a bit, most of huge population was kids between 12-18 years old (+/-) and just think about it they played while they were high school after they signed uni, some of them (most) get serious and couldn't afford to play l2 as active and study in same time , so they left game(s).We are still one of the best servers around and im full staying behind it , in past yes we had 10+ k players (in total), and now we are running around 4-5k average (in total).
answer is here -> in my old post :P
....nothing to explain...enjoy :D
http://arena.dragon-community.net/index.php?topic=3300.0
Quote from: nicedrain on October 05, 2009, 12:03:18 AM
answer is here -> in my old post :P
....nothing to explain...enjoy :D
http://arena.dragon-community.net/index.php?topic=3300.0
Nope answer is not there, because people left more before HB arrived, and i wrote reasons in previous post so i wont repeat myself (re-read).
However ya nice list you made, but what actually of those things are really major update? (ill quote some: Command " /Instancezone " â€" don’t work / After pickup herbs on chat should be see how much HP/MP restore it /Donator Coins have weight 1, but in description is 0/ etc...) also looks like u didn't update the list since we fixed few major things from there.
So if you wanted to show us that we have " a lot " things to fix , you kinda failed. And 1 thing that also piss me off, when you post lists like this u can just write Kamel don't work , you dont need to write each skill name that doesn't work just to make list bigger and make u look "pro".
And each of you should ask urself, what did u to to improve this community with something positive, i see that most of you just flame flame flame while u don't care for DN, so why bother to flame then? If we are that bad, leave us but don't come here to remind us "how bad we are" just leave and save us of ur pitty comments cause they are not welcome.
Quote from: TrackZero on October 05, 2009, 12:24:44 AM
Nope answer is not there, because people left more before HB arrived, and i wrote reasons in previous post so i wont repeat myself (re-read).
However ya nice list you made, but what actually of those things are really major update? (ill quote some: Command " /Instancezone " â€" don’t work / After pickup herbs on chat should be see how much HP/MP restore it /Donator Coins have weight 1, but in description is 0/ etc...) also looks like u didn't update the list since we fixed few major things from there.
So if you wanted to show us that we have " a lot " things to fix , you kinda failed. And 1 thing that also piss me off, when you post lists like this u can just write Kamel don't work , you dont need to write each skill name that doesn't work just to make list bigger and make u look "pro".
And each of you should ask urself, what did u to to improve this community with something positive, i see that most of you just flame flame flame while u don't care for DN, so why bother to flame then? If we are that bad, leave us but don't come here to remind us "how bad we are" just leave and save us of ur pitty comments cause they are not welcome.
u r doing good job trackie :* NM loves ya :) (with vazeline) and guys iff u have problems on ur servers like this guy form dragon just simple leave it and change it to a server like for example nightmare... im sure for 100% we have best gm from dragon community and not corrupted one ( except frog hat from pow guy :( ( i want one too ) and about drake . he dont have to log on forum . since he still make updates and fix bugs it doesnt matter iff he log on forum or no....
1st. Track i dont flame you, i know that you try to make something to help here, but 1 GM can't make miracles if other don't help you.
2nd. I left server many months ago (soon will be one year), i only watching here sometimes on forum and sometimes 5 min in game to see changes...
3th. I playing on other server so can I compare DN server with this where I play, and trust me here is about 20% from HB
4th. I also tried to help, after that i saw that it's useless
What can i say... good luck
nice thing is that 70% ppl that post on forum just say "i left many months ago, i play somewhere else"
so
why u still here to bother us?
most uf us is smart enough to understand that, yes, there are problems.
yes, many thing could be better. hey ANYTHING could be tweaked up.
but if we r still here, is becouse we still ike this server/community/call it as u wish
noone asked u to come here again.
u left.
ok your choice.
btw hey , if u just need some exploit in frintezza, so u can go there and pwn just ask.
maybe we can
find there? wanna test?
ps: there is bot working also for that server :)
trallalla.... copy paste.....
L2.NET has frintezza's protection cracked
trallallaaaaa
Quote from: TrackZero on October 04, 2009, 07:57:34 PM
(You don't know what i am talking about? Go to dragon x15 general and infinity x5 general and read topics and posts a bit and count useless ones and count idiots ones)
for this, track , there is a abvious reason.
as i said many times :
infinity has no gm/jailer/anything on forum
Dragon has jailer ? (showstopper ?)
so 90% of post there are spam/flames
only serious question are here in NM , becouse u r the only one who can give answer:)
(ofc there is flame also here, but sometimes happens we can ask something interesting)
Quote from: nicedrain on October 05, 2009, 08:20:47 AM
1st. Track i dont flame you, i know that you try to make something to help here, but 1 GM can't make miracles if other don't help you.
2nd. I left server many months ago (soon will be one year), i only watching here sometimes on forum and sometimes 5 min in game to see changes...
3th. I playing on other server so can I compare DN server with this where I play, and trust me here is about 20% from HB
4th. I also tried to help, after that i saw that it's useless
What can i say... good luck
20%? You must be kidding me, but if u say so np. Lets say we dont even have HB we are still c3, and all other serves running full Gracia with everything working and exploit safe server, kk np, just save me your effort here to "help community" and dont post no more, and we will struggle somehow.
Quote from: TrackZero on October 04, 2009, 11:53:43 PM
Is dragon x15 only server in DN? If u hate it that much change it to infinity/arena / nightmare and try ur luck there maybe?
I have read your whole post and i notice that ur main complain is "corruption on dragon x15", ill answer you with previous sentence as well, re-read it again.
About working HB, well all those things that they made "fix" on other server working on DN already,except few of them that we will fix, but question is how other servers are stable and "fixed with dupes and exploits", did u ever ask urself that? Wanna bet that on various servers atm there is more then 2 dupes and more then 3 serious exploits they dont even know it exists? So you wanna tell me u prefer play on some "super fast update server" and waste weeks,months then admins find out about dupes and in how deep shits they are and "WIPE,ROOLBACK, CLOSE SERVER", then come back on DN again. (You want me to remind u of 2-3 servers in recent history that all were flooding OMG THEY R BEST SERVER DN WILL DIE BALBALA , and boom after months they closed , i even loled on pics 100000000000 ppl in starting villages).
You are speaking about donny and announcement sections, did u ever bother to check Announcement section of Nightmare x30? What is the problem of checking client updates text as well? If drake writes updates there , does he show he do care for community? Must be a forum again? Also , about when we say 1 eta and then keep delaying, it is for simple reason once u start doing something u make estimate time to finish it , but while u work some new issues poops out and boom it just keep delaying it,is not that we really wanna delay it. You think DN staff wouldn't like to open all best updates in 5 days? Its simply not impossible,because all of us have pvt life too and work there, and DN is well known of stability so we prefer to open stable and secure client more then fast and crap one, u should know that if u play long here.
And in the end, about population, u miss 1 simple fact: L2 and DN exists like what, 5+ years almost 6, most of ppl are bored after many years not cause of DN , cause of Lineage 2 game , they didn't find new fun and luck on some new l2xxxx server nope they tried new server and quit for good since they got bored of it, 2nd fact count a bit, most of huge population was kids between 12-18 years old (+/-) and just think about it they played while they were high school after they signed uni, some of them (most) get serious and couldn't afford to play l2 as active and study in same time , so they left game(s).We are still one of the best servers around and im full staying behind it , in past yes we had 10+ k players (in total), and now we are running around 4-5k average (in total).
question isn't why ppl leave question is why ppl wont join this community and its because corruption fame of dragon
why ppl should believe that NM or Infinity is other if some GMs on dragon are untouchable and after so many bad decision and corruption drake still don't care ?? did you think about that dragon destroy NM also ?? ppl wont join our servers ;/ offcourse I'm talking about new ppl not the one who switching from other DN servers
would you keep some of those GMs if the decision would belong to you ??
about bugs and exploits on wra.th I can just wish you luck with finding some :) its stable and they didn't had problems with dupe exploit as we had or should I wrote have since summons are off again ??
l2w
L2phx
l2net
l2control
how many off those sniffers work on DN ?? all
isn't that funny that other servers know how block it and DN don't ??
Some1 ask why we care ?? I can tell you why
Because DN had best servers in past and some of us still believe and hope it will have again but for now its just dying slowly
/no offense
Quote from: Fx5000 on October 05, 2009, 06:02:27 PM
question isn't why ppl leave question is why ppl wont join this community and its because corruption fame of dragon
why ppl should believe that NM or Infinity is other if some GMs on dragon are untouchable and after so many bad decision and corruption drake still don't care ?? did you think about that dragon destroy NM also ?? ppl wont join our servers ;/ offcourse I'm talking about new ppl not the one who switching from other DN servers
would you keep some of those GMs if the decision would belong to you ??
about bugs and exploits on wra.th I can just wish you luck with finding some :) they didn't had problems with dupe exploit as we had or should I wrote have since summons are off again ??
l2w
L2phx
l2net
l2control
how many off those sniffers work on DN ?? all
isn't that funny that other servers know how block it and DN don't ??
Some1 ask why we care ?? I can tell you why
Because DN had best servers in past and some of us still believe and hope it will have again but for now its just dying slowly
/no offense
No offense but, lol, how you actually think u can disable those packets to any server? They very much legit my friend and they works not only for l2 they work anywhere u want.And how do u know if some server is on attack by dupe or not , unless u are admin of some big server u cant really know that, but really u cant, u must make difference between gossips and facts.I bet (because i know and i have tested) many dupes and exploits was and still working on "famous" servers still!!! About l2w , why "disable it" when it is almost impossible to do it, since ok u made few tricks but in a week is cracked , so why bother? Only solution is what i do on NM, find l2w then IP ban all chars that he have, and that's tbh working since we have low amount of walkers (check ban list of NM).Server is not dieing , its just the fact there is not much to do, and why new people slowly joining, well maybe that question i should send to community, when newbies logs and read most of crap what they will think about it , even not all servers from DN are so "poisoned", yes for example NM, why you all ppl complain about Dragon x15 and still have 2,2k players, while we have 0 "corruption" on nm and 850-900 players?Looks like being bad to ppl works ;) .If you still playing on dragon and u accept fact who your current gms are, just don't be so 2 face to flame them since u accept them by staying there. I will never judge decisions of gms from other servers since the are as well as me part of DN team on different servers, once drake is happy with them i am 2x more. So ill say it for the end, if you don't like your current status on curent server you are playing try infinity/arena or nightmare you might find it interesting, but if u still playing on server where u complain don't post all shits on the forum because it is very very 2faced.
The reason why u Trackzero have less l2walker on nightmare, because once caught u permanent ban the char.
On dragon, when u get caught u first get temporary banned.
Then u can do it again and get temporary banned.
Now finally on the third time, u get a permanent ban.
Even scamming is only punished by 5 days temporary ban.
And of course thats what makes the Dragon players upset and nobody is able to change that. *hint*
Quote from: TrackZero on October 05, 2009, 06:23:45 PM
No offense but, lol, how you actually think u can disable those packets to any server? They very much legit my friend and they works not only for l2 they work anywhere u want.And how do u know if some server is on attack by dupe or not , unless u are admin of some big server u cant really know that, but really u cant, u must make difference between gossips and facts.I bet (because i know and i have tested) many dupes and exploits was and still working on "famous" servers still!!! About l2w , why "disable it" when it is almost impossible to do it, since ok u made few tricks but in a week is cracked , so why bother? Only solution is what i do on NM, find l2w then IP ban all chars that he have, and that's tbh working since we have low amount of walkers (check ban list of NM).Server is not dieing , its just the fact there is not much to do, and why new people slowly joining, well maybe that question i should send to community, when newbies logs and read most of crap what they will think about it , even not all servers from DN are so "poisoned", yes for example NM, why you all ppl complain about Dragon x15 and still have 2,2k players, while we have 0 "corruption" on nm and 850-900 players?Looks like being bad to ppl works ;) .If you still playing on dragon and u accept fact who your current gms are, just don't be so 2 face to flame them since u accept them by staying there. I will never judge decisions of gms from other servers since the are as well as me part of DN team on different servers, once drake is happy with them i am 2x more. So ill say it for the end, if you don't like your current status on curent server you are playing try infinity/arena or nightmare you might find it interesting, but if u still playing on server where u complain don't post all shits on the forum because it is very very 2faced.
I left in December and i took all my clan with me :) I'm here from time to time to check whats going on or trade some items and talk sometimes with old friends.
How to block sniffers ? Believe me on server we play they got antybot system auto banning permanently when you use l2w/l2phx and bans goes on IP, MAC and HD ID ;) its working fine since year, no one even try now to log with sniffers coz all they now its useless and not worth perma ban.
the funniest thing is you could only donate for change nick or gender so they don't have to much money but they are fixing bugs faster and they got 100% more real HB then DN :) i should add also that some1 is so scared here that ppl we go there that we can't even write this server name coz forum automatically change it to "dragon" thats why i need to write it W.rath with dot.
anyway we should stop this conversation because we won't reach an agreement
btw you still didn't answer ::) would you keep some of those GMs if the decision would belong to you ?? just say yes or no and we can stop it :)
Quote from: Fx5000 on October 05, 2009, 08:20:06 PM
I left in December and i took all my clan with me :) I'm here from time to time to check whats going on or trade some items and talk sometimes with old friends.
How to block sniffers ? Believe me on server we play they got antybot system auto banning permanently when you use l2w/l2phx and bans goes on IP, MAC and HD ID ;) its working fine since year, no one even try now to log with sniffers coz all they now its useless and not worth perma ban.
the funniest thing is you could only donate for change nick or gender so they don't have to much money but they are fixing bugs faster and they got 100% more real HB then DN :) i should add also that some1 is so scared here that ppl we go there that we can't even write this server name coz forum automatically change it to "dragon" thats why i need to write it W.rath with dot.
anyway we should stop this conversation because we won't reach an agreement
btw you still didn't answer ::) would you keep some of those GMs if the decision would belong to you ?? just say yes or no and we can stop it :)
Ok when i find time cause of rl, ill send u some screens from ur "exploit free server trough pm", np.
Quote from: TrackZero on October 05, 2009, 08:28:52 PM
Ok when i find time cause of rl, ill send u some screens from ur "exploit free server trough pm", np.
As long as you hide my name then!
Quote from: Furesy on October 05, 2009, 08:30:22 PM
As long as you hide my name then!
Sep 25 2009 1:20AM Furesy - NEVER! ^TrackZero^
I hope that wasn't your char :D
Quote from: Fx5000 on October 05, 2009, 08:38:57 PM
Sep 25 2009 1:20AM Furesy - NEVER! ^TrackZero^
I hope that wasn't your char :D
Oh and sorry dude, i totally forgot, do you want me to remind you how many times ur "exploit free" server did wipes? ;D I think u know that :)
Quote from: Fx5000 on October 05, 2009, 08:38:57 PM
Sep 25 2009 1:20AM Furesy - NEVER! ^TrackZero^
I hope that wasn't your char :D
It is xD
Quote from: TrackZero on October 05, 2009, 08:41:18 PM
Oh and sorry dude, i totally forgot, do you want me to remind you how many times ur "exploit free" server did wipes? ;D I think u know that :)
i had my old clan mates playing there about 2 years and i didn't heard anything about any wipe
but I'm sure it don't crash 20 times at Sunday evening as DN servers ;D
As i wrote before we should stop because we wont reach an agreement
You will stay at statement that DN is best and other servers are worst and thats kinda normal because you're one of GMs here
Quote from: Furesy on October 05, 2009, 08:48:44 PM
It is xD
ouch ! xD
Quote from: Fx5000 on October 05, 2009, 09:05:59 PM
ouch ! xD
I still have my other chars though, and was playing my SWS/EE anyway!
Quote from: Fx5000 on October 05, 2009, 09:05:59 PM
i had my old clan mates playing there about 2 years and i didn't heard anything about any wipe
but I'm sure it don't crash 20 times at Sunday evening as DN servers ;D
As i wrote before we should stop because we wont reach an agreement
You will stay at statement that DN is best and other servers are worst and thats kinda normal because you're one of GMs here
ouch ! xD
Facts:
- yes we did crash but not anymore we fixed it
- "your" server did 2-3 wipes , i know that 100%
- where i said DN is the best server? and rest is crap? I just said DN who long it exists , we never wiped any shit here and we are still in top servers , that is what i said.
- I dont even try to do agreement with you here, you still visit our forum, thats enough for me.
And 1 more thing about their donation system, they made it like that because they dont guarantee you they will not wipe again, just think about it.
Have fun there, i wish u all joy.
Quote from: TrackZero on October 05, 2009, 09:18:03 PM
Facts:
- yes we did crash but not anymore we fixed it
- "your" server did 2-3 wipes , i know that 100%
- where i said DN is the best server? and rest is crap? I just said DN who long it exists , we never wiped any shit here and we are still in top servers , that is what i said.
- I dont even try to do agreement with you here, you still visit our forum, thats enough for me.
And 1 more thing about their donation system, they made it like that because they dont guarantee you they will not wipe again, just think about it.
Have fun there, i wish u all joy.
as i remember well, DN were wiped once i mean DN subclass were wiped ;)
Quote from: ReNeGaT on October 05, 2009, 09:40:19 PM
as i remember well, DN were wiped once i mean DN subclass were wiped ;)
Is nothing comparing to ground 0 wipe, total rampage ;) .
But EY,lets look into our garden 1st then we can judge the others!
I was just saying some facts, but i do respect everyone's suggestions and critic , as long as it is normal and insults free, and in the end their complains makes us to see our weak sides and ways of fixing them. So thank you for that.
Quote from: Fx5000 on October 05, 2009, 08:20:06 PM
i should add also that some1 is so scared here that ppl we go there that we can't even write this server name coz forum automatically change it to "dragon" thats why i need to write it W.rath with dot.
It was me in this case :)
GMs/owners here have the worst PR which I ever seen. They cant create their own public image in right way. Indolence in their relations with players is like voiceless man whois talking to the wall.
Quote from: TrackZero on October 05, 2009, 09:18:03 PM
Facts:
- I dont even try to do agreement with you here, you still visit our forum, thats enough for me.
Kinda weak fact. At last its not a reason why are all visiting forum even if we quited Dragon Server.
Quote from: MingSan on October 05, 2009, 10:16:50 PM
It was me in this case :)
GMs/owners here have the worst PR which I ever seen. They cant create their own public image in right way. Indolence in their relations with players is like voiceless man whois talking to the wall.
Kinda weak fact. At last its not a reason why are all visiting forum even if we quited Dragon Server.
PR is different from server to server , maybe thats why some are good and some are bad, thats simply like that cant be changed.
All i said is that i am not trying to make any agreement with him about which server is better this or the other, i will continue my work here as well as drake, and every1 have its own will to pick where he/she will play, if u ask me , well then try NM a bit, maybe not that much hardcore in pvp as dragon , but there most of complains you do dont work so if u ever feel to try , you are welcome.
Quote from: TrackZero on October 05, 2009, 10:23:34 PM
PR is different from server to server , maybe thats why some are good and some are bad, thats simply like that cant be changed.
Its calling evolution and growing up with every experience which you got during this way. Some people are moving forward and others are the same like they were 4 years ago.
In Dragon history its rather regres. Because when Im looking at GMs where they are loosing their patience, cant write properly 2 words in English or they are stealing items from players or talking lies all the time about they powers/builders/panels. Leveling up their own chars in different clans, hiding proofs against their friends/ban enemies without a reason/ban opponents from olympiad because they lost battle etc etc.
And after all they are thinking that few l2w bans will show how they work fair and hard :D
Im still loling when I remember how elcharro want to ban OL/EE because he said that he has COV from WC, because other skill from OL has the same icon like WC COV :P
I know that DN isnt a serious business but private enterprise so Im not complaining about situation here. Im just telling the facts about bad PR.
Quote from: MingSan on October 05, 2009, 10:46:50 PM
Its calling evolution and growing up with every experience which you got during this way. Some people are moving forward and others are the same like they were 4 years ago.
In Dragon history its rather regres. Because when Im looking at GMs where they are loosing their patience, cant write properly 2 words in English or they are stealing items from players or talking lies all the time about they powers/builders/panels. Leveling up their own chars in different clans, hiding proofs against their friends/ban enemies without a reason/ban opponents from olympiad because they lost battle etc etc.
And after all they are thinking that few l2w bans will show how they work fair and hard :D
Im still loling when I remember how elcharro want to ban OL/EE because he said that he has COV from WC, because other skill from OL has the same icon like WC COV :P
I know that DN isnt a serious business but private enterprise so Im not complaining about situation here. Im just telling the facts about bad PR.
Dude as i said before, DN isnt only dragon x15 and thats what everybody missing here, i agree is most populated but is not the only one.I wish you could try NM 1 day, maybe you'll change opinion about DN.
Whole gaming world is 1 private enterprise , we are just their collateral damage ;)
Track, sorry i post here about this but cause of my wiki dev member title i can't post in NM section. About daggers, if you want to revise them, please consider making stabs unaffected for Chant of Protection. It would help a lot without making them stronger in Olympiad or in low level pvp's.
Quote from: TrackZero on October 05, 2009, 11:03:01 PM
Dude as i said before, DN isnt only dragon x15 and thats what everybody missing here, i agree is most populated but is not the only one.I wish you could try NM 1 day, maybe you'll change opinion about DN.
Whole gaming world is 1 private enterprise , we are just their collateral damage ;)
Your wishes came true year ago =) when my friend lend me a char so I could play for 2 months. Besides many people associate whole Dragon Network only with Dragon x 15, maybe because of name maybe from different reasons. I hope that if new people who are coming to the community after reading Dragon General section or Bad Users section will change their mind about joining to server x15, before they lost everything in one minute because of another "fake GM's" brilliant idea.
Some people said 2 years ago (or something) - In Drake we trust, In Drake we believe.
Its kinda naive, but I can bet that even 1 his post could change people attitude from hostility to friendliness.
I'll never undestand why some1 that left DN should still visit this damn forum...
Goddamn if U leave a pub that U don't like it U don't stand at the entrance saying to other costumers how sh1t is this pub... U just go to another one and U don't care about the crappy pub...
Btw for all infinity users that will leave the server cuz it's a "BAD" server:
Give all equip to me! I'll take care of it 'till U will come back XDDDDD
Quote from: J4cKDan13L on October 06, 2009, 12:06:21 PM
I'll never undestand why some1 that left DN should still visit this damn forum...
Goddamn if U leave a pub that U don't like it U don't stand at the entrance saying to other costumers how sh1t is this pub... U just go to another one and U don't care about the crappy pub...
Btw for all infinity users that will leave the server cuz it's a "BAD" server:
Give all equip to me! I'll take care of it 'till U will come back XDDDDD
And join NM , i promise great joy and fun ;)
Quote from: J4cKDan13L on October 06, 2009, 12:06:21 PM
I'll never undestand why some1 that left DN should still visit this damn forum...
Goddamn if U leave a pub that U don't like it U don't stand at the entrance saying to other costumers how sh1t is this pub... U just go to another one and U don't care about the crappy pub...
Who said that we left because we dont like it? :)
I presonally left because I hadnt/still havent time for gaming. Some of mine friends was forced to leave by GM. Others left because they got bored. But we are still visiting the forum because we like to talk with old friends.