my question is if can donate for dynasty... is terrible isn't nice play with donator (nightmare with db+f+4 I did 88 crith vs 1 dynasty...)
i know xDDDD can answer me?
Quote from: Bav3 on March 29, 2010, 04:14:22 PM
take some english lessons ;D
+1
i think donate to icarus and dynasty should not exist ..
cool
Quote from: Deino on March 29, 2010, 04:37:35 PM
cool
i just think, only gm can ask something about it ;D
yes , i know
Quote from: Deino on March 29, 2010, 03:24:04 PM
my question is if can donate for dynasty... is terrible isn't nice play with donator (nightmare with db+f+4 I did 88 crith vs 1 dynasty...)
i think no dynasty at all will be at this server
Quote from: SpoilerAngel on March 29, 2010, 09:53:26 PM
i think no dynasty at all will be at this server
It was already written in another topics. Dynasty sets will have retail-like bonuses and you can obtain them either with DC or by farming.
make hellbound w/o dynasty/icarus weapons/armors :D
Quote from: qwertyzxc on March 30, 2010, 01:01:20 AM
make hellbound w/o dynasty/icarus weapons/armors :D
hellbound will be closed .. cuz many people will be there making Quest's xD
mmm... is better of nightmare all dynasty....
btw will be dynasty crafts require 10x more quest items like on other dn servers, or there will be retail like item requirement?
no1 knows .. we must keep waiting for info,
It won't be avaliabe in the first few months, but you'll be able to donate for it once it gets common.
My source? Common sense.
Quote from: radament1 on March 31, 2010, 05:31:23 PM
It won't be avaliabe in the first few months, but you'll be able to donate for it once it gets common.
My source? Common sense.
i hope it wont happen .. cuz if it happen we dont need to start on valkyria just keep on others servers,
i want a good DN server like everybody
Without donations on items server wont exist :) its sure there will be able to donate for S80 stuff, but after long times of start server :) i hope there wont be donations for o/e items :)
Quote from: TifaPL on March 31, 2010, 09:02:46 PM
Without donations on items server wont exist :) its sure there will be able to donate for S80 stuff, but after long times of start server :) i hope there wont be donations for o/e items :)
So its no reason to start play now from 0 and play hard for exp/make chars bla bla if later ppls will donate all in 1 day and u must work for it 1/2/3/4... months :D
that's why DN need 1 good server, i hope this good server will be valkyria.. but without donations no server :-X
i agree, no donations for o/e weaponds/armor/jewels
and maybe max donate must be for nicks.. i mean donate 10 euros for change your nick color (u can think that's a joke but if it exist many people will donate for it ;D ;D )
btw, donate for S-grade recs should be good ( but not for icarus )
Quote from: Cireneu on April 01, 2010, 01:29:53 AM
that's why DN need 1 good server, i hope this good server will be valkyria.. but without donations no server :-X
i agree, no donations for o/e weaponds/armor/jewels
and maybe max donate must be for nicks.. i mean donate 10 euros for change your nick color (u can think that's a joke but if it exist many people will donate for it ;D ;D )
btw, donate for S-grade recs should be good ( but not for icarus )
Don't be silly ^^
Quote from: radament1 on March 31, 2010, 05:31:23 PM
It won't be avaliabe in the first few months, but you'll be able to donate for it once it gets common.
My source? Common sense.
Dragon Network - a place, where normal things don't happen very often.
Quote from: radament1 on March 31, 2010, 05:31:23 PM
It won't be avaliabe in the first few months, but you'll be able to donate for it once it gets common.
My source? Common sense.
Your comon sense on this case is false, noone will be able to donate for anything expect donation coins or service (by service you will see what we mean on server opening but its not related to items),so it wont happen on day 1 and it will stay like that.
Quote from: qwertyzxc on April 01, 2010, 01:19:17 AM
So its no reason to start play now from 0 and play hard for exp/make chars bla bla if later ppls will donate all in 1 day and u must work for it 1/2/3/4... months :D
Donations does exist to keep server alive and also for people who dont have time to grind but they would like to play, in this case they can donate donation coins and exchange them on NPC for reword or waste them on market is completly their will, but if you think that anyone will be able to donate for raid boss jewels or full weapon or armor or anything thats besides donation coins you are very very wrong, will never happen on valkyra. So in the end we will allow people who wanna farm to farm and people who wanna donate to get donation coins and exchange them for rewords. In both cases you can have same weapon/armor so no advantages or disadvantages on any side.
Quote from: Torn on April 01, 2010, 01:06:53 PM
Your comon sense on this case is false, noone will be able to donate for anything expect donation coins or service (by service you will see what we mean on server opening but its not related to items),so it wont happen on day 1 and it will stay like that.Donations does exist to keep server alive and also for people who dont have time to grind but they would like to play, in this case they can donate donation coins and exchange them on NPC for reword or waste them on market is completly their will, but if you think that anyone will be able to donate for raid boss jewels or full weapon or armor or anything thats besides donation coins you are very very wrong, will never happen on valkyra. So in the end we will allow people who wanna farm to farm and people who wanna donate to get donation coins and exchange them for rewords. In both cases you can have same weapon/armor so no advantages or disadvantages on any side.
+1
Quote from: Torn on April 01, 2010, 01:06:53 PM
Your comon sense on this case is false, noone will be able to donate for anything expect donation coins or service (by service you will see what we mean on server opening but its not related to items),so it wont happen on day 1 and it will stay like that.Donations does exist to keep server alive and also for people who dont have time to grind but they would like to play, in this case they can donate donation coins and exchange them on NPC for reword or waste them on market is completly their will, but if you think that anyone will be able to donate for raid boss jewels or full weapon or armor or anything thats besides donation coins you are very very wrong, will never happen on valkyra. So in the end we will allow people who wanna farm to farm and people who wanna donate to get donation coins and exchange them for rewords. In both cases you can have same weapon/armor so no advantages or disadvantages on any side.
Hahaha so its nice that there wont be donations for full items, but there will be donations for coins (probably full items iwll be buyable with coins in Donny) xDD
Quote from: Torn on April 01, 2010, 01:06:53 PM
Your comon sense on this case is false, noone will be able to donate for anything expect donation coins or service (by service you will see what we mean on server opening but its not related to items),so it wont happen on day 1 and it will stay like that.Donations does exist to keep server alive and also for people who dont have time to grind but they would like to play, in this case they can donate donation coins and exchange them on NPC for reword or waste them on market is completly their will, but if you think that anyone will be able to donate for raid boss jewels or full weapon or armor or anything thats besides donation coins you are very very wrong, will never happen on valkyra. So in the end we will allow people who wanna farm to farm and people who wanna donate to get donation coins and exchange them for rewords. In both cases you can have same weapon/armor so no advantages or disadvantages on any side.
if donation will be able at the opening it will be unbalanced to who dont donate.
i really want to see how will be donation system :D
Quote from: Torn on April 01, 2010, 01:06:53 PM
.Donations does exist to keep server alive and also for people who dont have time to grind but they would like to play, in this case they can donate donation coins and exchange them on NPC for reword or waste them on market is completly their will, but if you think that anyone will be able to donate for raid boss jewels or full weapon or armor or anything thats besides donation coins you are very very wrong, will never happen on valkyra. So in the end we will allow people who wanna farm to farm and people who wanna donate to get donation coins and exchange them for rewords. In both cases you can have same weapon/armor so no advantages or disadvantages on any side.
Let see if i got this right, people can donate for special coins with witch you can buy lets say not dynasty set but draconic set is reasonable but the server is at his beginings and i go with my full C grade vs draconic set from a player who danated and got his draconic from npc , what are the odds of me wining ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: VampyRUL on April 01, 2010, 03:51:51 PM
Let see if i got this right, people can donate for special coins with witch you can buy lets say not dynasty set but draconic set is reasonable but the server is at his beginings and i go with my full C grade vs draconic set from a player who danated and got his draconic from npc , what are the odds of me wining ;D ;D ;D
your right, so at the begining no donations for no1 should be good
after few months donations can be open to every1 who want to donate
Yep...no donations,just after 4-5 months tilll we "normal" players get items from spoil/rb/etc...
But DONT make donations for dyna/icarus...it will be fuking unbalanced.
Make donations to draco/ic and if y really wanna make donateable a S80,make only recipes or mats donateable....and for donators to get S80 they only need luck to craft be success...
ps: my english a lil bit sux,but i think y understood my idea... cya IG
After all this posts we get to this point...we are sick of trying to play in a server where donators win everything and ppl who work for there gear, get nothing. So we agree in donation in the regular bases (S armors and weapons NOT SAFE ENCHANTED) and then we will have a balanced server where, to win you just need to be skilled.
GM's plz make Valkyria something diferent and you will see that LOTS of ppl will play.
Quote from: Mokas on April 01, 2010, 06:55:31 PM
After all this posts we get to this point...we are sick of trying to play in a server where donators win everything and ppl who work for there gear, get nothing. So we agree in donation in the regular bases (S armors and weapons NOT SAFE ENCHANTED) and then we will have a balanced server where, to win you just need to be skilled.
GM's plz make Valkyria something diferent and you will see that LOTS of ppl will play.
+1 yep...
Quote from: bl3ax on April 01, 2010, 06:24:12 PM
Yep...no donations,just after 4-5 months tilll we "normal" players get items from spoil/rb/etc...
But DONT make donations for dyna/icarus...it will be fuking unbalanced.
Make donations to draco/ic and if y really wanna make donateable a S80,make only recipes or mats donateable....and for donators to get S80 they only need luck to craft be success...
ps: my english a lil bit sux,but i think y understood my idea... cya IG
+1
Quote from: Mokas on April 01, 2010, 06:55:31 PM
After all this posts we get to this point...we are sick of trying to play in a server where donators win everything and ppl who work for there gear, get nothing. So we agree in donation in the regular bases (S armors and weapons NOT SAFE ENCHANTED) and then we will have a balanced server where, to win you just need to be skilled.
GM's plz make Valkyria something diferent and you will see that LOTS of ppl will play.
+2
Quote from: Mokas on April 01, 2010, 06:55:31 PM
After all this posts we get to this point...we are sick of trying to play in a server where donators win everything and ppl who work for there gear, get nothing. So we agree in donation in the regular bases (S armors and weapons NOT SAFE ENCHANTED) and then we will have a balanced server where, to win you just need to be skilled.
GM's plz make Valkyria something diferent and you will see that LOTS of ppl will play.
this guy knows what he say :P
+1 caralho
Quote from: Cireneu on April 01, 2010, 02:55:56 PM
if donation will be able at the opening it will be unbalanced to who dont donate.
i really want to see how will be donation system :D
On dragon, c3, ppl were playing in avadons , against draco sets /db's +20 so...
Quote from: Cireneu on April 01, 2010, 09:18:51 PM
this guy knows what he say :P
+1 caralho
Ye but they won't care, it'll be as Torn said. ^^SAd but true.
Quote from: Kerth on April 01, 2010, 09:30:47 PM
Ye but they won't care, it'll be as Torn said. ^^SAd but true.
will u play there ?
y
and u will make donate or no ? ;D
Dunno yet, for sure not at the beggining, I'm not noob...
Donation is something I'm doing (if) to say thx for running server which I'm playing on, freely, but only if it's (the server) worth it. Not for goal...
unlock the s/s80 grade weapon/armor sets donation option after first 5( 10, 15?) weapons/armor sets of that grade kind will be crafted by the dwarfs. dunno if is a reasonable idea, but u can think about that.
Quote from: edi on April 02, 2010, 05:11:20 AM
unlock the s/s80 grade weapon/armor sets donation option after first 5( 10, 15?) weapons/armor sets of that grade kind will be crafted by the dwarfs. dunno if is a reasonable idea, but u can think about that.
not bad this
Quote from: Kerth on April 01, 2010, 09:30:47 PM
On dragon, c3, ppl were playing in avadons , against draco sets /db's +20 so...
Wow, on what dragon you was playing? For sure not on Dragon Network, S grade is c4 feature :) and event when it's not, there wre no1 with S grade :)
Make s-grade recipes 70% donatable after 4 month's.Donate for BEWS is not a bad idea but make it expensive like 30coins per BEWS so few will try this.Also make donation available for adena,but make it expensive again.Donation for name change,clanleader change and hairstyle/headgear is also ok.
Don't make s80 recipes donatable , donators must work a bit too, cause excuses like they dont have time and all stuff like this are pure Bull****s.
Quote from: Ad1s on April 02, 2010, 09:11:12 AM
Make s-grade recipes 70% donatable after 4 month's.Donate for BEWS is not a bad idea but make it expensive like 30coins per BEWS so few will try this.Also make donation available for adena,but make it expensive again.Donation for name change,clanleader change and hairstyle/headgear is also ok.
Don't make s80 recipes donatable , donators must work a bit too, cause excuses like they dont have time and all stuff like this are pure Bull****s.
Can't you anderstand, no matter how many propositions and ideas you'll post, they won't consider it, because they need money from donations, and most donators wan't rewards.
Btw you say S recipes after 4 months :D :D :D
If we'll have NORMAL (retail like 60%) succes rate on craft, after 1 month server will be full of a, and with many S grade items.
Quote from: bl3ax on April 01, 2010, 06:24:12 PM
Yep...no donations,just after 4-5 months tilll we "normal" players get items from spoil/rb/etc...
But DONT make donations for dyna/icarus...it will be fuking unbalanced.
Make donations to draco/ic and if y really wanna make donateable a S80,make only recipes or mats donateable....and for donators to get S80 they only need luck to craft be success...
ps: my english a lil bit sux,but i think y understood my idea... cya IG
Instead of telling you +1-2-3-.... I will explaine you clearly some things, as you know we wanna make this thing right so therefor you dont need to worry that we gonna unbalance game, we will give chance to everyone to get item they want farm or by donate , and i reeat again same chance for everyone, also you dont need to worry about donation npc and its content, we will update it each month adding more things untill wea reach maximum (no icarus on dony and no dnet sets just dont worry anymore).Also i think if you need 4-5 months to get S grade armor + weapon you have to change something in your gameplay.
Just understand that we will monitor all players levels,gear etc... on global level and with those info we will do what we have to do regarding donation npc as i mentioned above. Sum of sums dont worry we wont make anything unbalanced and unfair.
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Quote from: Torn on April 02, 2010, 12:09:37 PM
Instead of telling you +1-2-3-.... I will explaine you clearly some things, as you know we wanna make this thing right so therefor you dont need to worry that we gonna unbalance game, we will give chance to everyone to get item they want farm or by donate , and i reeat again same chance for everyone, also you dont need to worry about donation npc and its content, we will update it each month adding more things untill wea reach maximum (no icarus on dony and no dnet sets just dont worry anymore).Also i think if you need 4-5 months to get S grade armor + weapon you have to change something in your gameplay.
Just understand that we will monitor all players levels,gear etc... on global level and with those info we will do what we have to do regarding donation npc as i mentioned above. Sum of sums dont worry we wont make anything unbalanced and unfair.
Im understand what y sad now,and its awesome... Thx for reply! :)
btw: Maybe Drake's age ends in few weeks? XD just kidding ^^
Quote from: Torn on April 02, 2010, 12:09:37 PM
Instead of telling you +1-2-3-.... I will explaine you clearly some things, as you know we wanna make this thing right so therefor you dont need to worry that we gonna unbalance game, we will give chance to everyone to get item they want farm or by donate , and i reeat again same chance for everyone, also you dont need to worry about donation npc and its content, we will update it each month adding more things untill wea reach maximum (no icarus on dony and no dnet sets just dont worry anymore).Also i think if you need 4-5 months to get S grade armor + weapon you have to change something in your gameplay.
Just understand that we will monitor all players levels,gear etc... on global level and with those info we will do what we have to do regarding donation npc as i mentioned above. Sum of sums dont worry we wont make anything unbalanced and unfair.
for you 4-5 months to reach S grade is low ? on what kind of server have you played?10k x ?
Quote from: Dhart on April 06, 2010, 02:17:26 PM
for you 4-5 months to reach S grade is low ? on what kind of server have you played?10k x ?
He is right. Its a 20x server. With a good organized clan(or 1 party, its pretty enough), if you know what you have to do, 2-3 months enough to reach s grade, maybe with 150 fire/water on your weapon, so you already can go to HB. Its depends on attribute stones drop rate. ;)
For me to get S grade is pretty hard,cuse im going to school/gf/etc...
Im playing 3-5h/day so its kinda sux,but i love to play... :)
Quote from: bl3ax on April 06, 2010, 05:02:38 PM
For me to get S grade is pretty hard,cuse im going to school/gf/etc...
Im playing 3-5h/day so its kinda sux,but i love to play... :)
It's easy with your playing time too, but JUST if ALL rates really will be 20x (not like on drake's server where the xp and adena rate is 5x 15x, etc, but the spoil rate always 1x). So with 20x spoil rate it's pretty easy to make s grade, for a casual player too.
on dragon network spoil rate do you know?? ::)
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Quote from: disc on April 06, 2010, 07:17:37 PM
It's easy with your playing time too, but JUST if ALL rates really will be 20x (not like on drake's server where the xp and adena rate is 5x 15x, etc, but the spoil rate always 1x). So with 20x spoil rate it's pretty easy to make s grade, for a casual player too.
+1