Poll
Question:
Next step should be
Option 1: Wipe
votes: 53
Option 2: Roll back
votes: 54
So you can think that it's just next useless poll, but Im interested in your opinion.
Now all you know about f2cking big adena bug which was existing on the server. And we don't since when ppl was using it to make themselfs rich, but probably from first day's of server. When yes, 1 day roll back wont help, there will be still extremly rich ppl on the server. Wipe probably will cause that 1/3 of community will leave like on all servers which was wiped becouse of problems after start.
The question is: what d you expect and what should be really done to make server good again?
I expect all characters that bought more than 3 weapons for 0 Adena to get ban becuse they used it to make money not to exp.
1,2 max 3 weapons is like an "for my personal use" thing. But buing 4,5 or more its just simply a money making. Peace.
Quote from: TifaPL on May 08, 2010, 02:16:23 PM
So you can think that it's just next useless poll, but Im interested in your opinion.
Now all you know about f2cking big adena bug which was existing on the server. And we don't since when ppl was using it to make themselfs rich, but probably from first day's of server. When yes, 1 day roll back wont help, there will be still extremly rich ppl on the server. Wipe probably will cause that 1/3 of community will leave like on all servers which was wiped becouse of problems after start.
The question is: what d you expect and what should be really done to make server good again?
we have news about that.so this poll is useless :)
I don't want to do new topic I just wanna say tnx to GM-s.1-st time I've see any of DN gm saying he apologies and say it was mistake of valkyrie stuff.Keep the good work and don't avoid answering ppl even with bad news.Communication is missing here (DN) so I hope you gonna "fix" that.
p.s. is this affected Clan halls?
if it will be roll back i will be veeery angry.. cos i playing 2 days a lot of time day and night, got already tank on 54 very hard to exp and BD on 52.. roll back = delete my characters.
Quote from: Torn on May 08, 2010, 08:46:35 AM
No need for paranoya-tripping CLOSING blaballa balba and blabla storys, we know what was the issue, and it will be solved.
Better read announcement section instead of spamming here ^^
Ok, we are done here :) The problem was resolved :)
Quote from: TifaPL on May 08, 2010, 02:16:23 PM
So you can think that it's just next useless poll, but Im interested in your opinion.
Now all you know about f2cking big adena bug which was existing on the server. And we don't since when ppl was using it to make themselfs rich, but probably from first day's of server. When yes, 1 day roll back wont help, there will be still extremly rich ppl on the server. Wipe probably will cause that 1/3 of community will leave like on all servers which was wiped becouse of problems after start.
The question is: what d you expect and what should be really done to make server good again?
Isnt this exploit, bug or whatever we call it, just about 12h 'old'?
rollback, but this topic should be closed :)
i don't see the "none" option. wipe is out of the question, trust me a wipe will kill valky. i wouldn't mind a rollback but the database backup is probably older than 3-4 days and a lot of people will not like that, loosing 3-4 days worth of lvl / farm, especially at server start.
the adena that is on the market will slowly go away
suggestion to gm's about tracking adena converted into items: make a list of items that can be bought from shop and that stack, assign a adena value to them and do a query of those items ( not sure if I explained well enough but you get the point).
we've all played nm & dragon ... on valky we got changes / fixes in 1 week more than we got on NM + Dragon in 1 year. appreciate what their doing and consider that everyone makes mistakes
I think wipe would be kinda too serious. Why? Because ppl who are using l2w would lvl up and obtain adena AGAIN sameway as before, just normal players would get f2cked.
Rollback - I think yes, it's good option.
+1 to rollback -1 to wipe. Im sure there are people like me that dont rly have much time to play and loosing the farmed items and level would be a little sad :)
of no lifers vote for rollback, ok if u save database when all was ok its cool but if u make rollback from bad moment you make unbalanced server :/ anyway i dont care play with friends > all :)
this thread will be deleted for shure ^^
WHERE THE FUK IS WROTE THAT THIS BUG WAS EXIST FEW HOURS ETC??maby it was existing from beggining. i thing deleted all adena from all chars and making that selling C grade weapons in shops = 0 adena and crystals = 0 adena would be good cuz all crystal what ppl get from cheating go for crafting shots etc i thing its not perfect but good solution ;/(crystals would be cheap when haxors would selling it :D )
wipe would make many ppl leave ;/
Wipe, is 1 week of playing better then risking what was left over and when was this exploit being used. There is people random people who got 3 clan halls thnx to this exploit, so roll back would just fuk up half ppl and wont fuk up other half.
I VOTE WIPE!
Quote from: SplichO on May 08, 2010, 09:46:49 PM
Wipe, is 1 week of playing better then risking what was left over and when was this exploit being used. There is people random people who got 3 clan halls thnx to this exploit, so roll back would just fuk up half ppl and wont fuk up other half.
I VOTE WIPE!
+1
Quote from: Biolo_idiota on May 08, 2010, 02:21:46 PM
I expect all characters that bought more than 3 weapons for 0 Adena to get ban becuse they used it to make money not to exp.
1,2 max 3 weapons is like an "for my personal use" thing. But buing 4,5 or more its just simply a money making. Peace.
Ja pierdole, Ty zyjesz o_O
Wipe , Rollback whateva , still not playin here; d
Quote from: SplichO on May 08, 2010, 09:46:49 PM
Wipe, is 1 week of playing better then risking what was left over and when was this exploit being used. There is people random people who got 3 clan halls thnx to this exploit, so roll back would just fuk up half ppl and wont fuk up other half.
+1
No wipe = die
Understand that torn dont be a dumb c mon
GMs asked about our opinions and when ppl start crying in game they said: make post on forum so we can see what u all want, and when we did it they deleted those posts and no1 listen players cause they are just players. I dont believe that every bug/l2w user lost everything. They bought items. And when do u know who got it with fair play and who doesnt ?
Quote from: Ryoko on May 08, 2010, 10:04:30 PM
GMs asked about our opinions and when ppl start crying in game they said: make post on forum so we can see what u all want, and when we did it they deleted those posts and no1 listen players cause they are just players. I dont believe that every bug/l2w user lost everything. They bought items. And when do u know who got it with fair play and who doesnt ?
This will be my last advice about this crap.
- Wipe inst necessary
- Apply on server antibot (walker) patch, end of problem.
- Rollback the server at the hour its started the issue (yday night)
We are wasting the weekend,w8ing inefficent solutions.
A little complaint about sieges and 7s.
7s It was started as normal date on monday and changed during the week to seal validation to allow siege start without any announcement about switching 7s to Seal.Allowing players to join dawn side when there are not castle owners should be not possible.
Messing in this way will generate more issues and bugs
+1 Venusia....
Ok but what about l2w users who farmed only coins for whole week ? They got nice amount of adena. I
Ive seen 500 posts about stupid coins, and rollback/wipe...I havnt heard 1 thing from gms about it yet. I dont think they care :p
Quote from: Boolets on May 08, 2010, 10:21:36 PM
Ive seen 500 posts about stupid coins, and rollback/wipe...I havent heard 1 thing from gms about it yet. I dont think they care :p
They said they won't wipe nor rollback.. too proud to admit their coin system was a failure as well as their fix for the last bug.
It's pretty sad, because this server really looked promising but it does need at least a rollback for the late bug, if not a wipe for the whole coin system.
It's been a week only, call it a little beta, even retail have done beta.
Change your coin system so weapons/armor can't be sold or crystallized and up adena drop rate a little and everything would be fine.
Also removing A/S from coin shop, those should be get only through farming mat/part and crafting
Stop QQ around, is 1 week of playing if you even a lil bit of serious player you wouldn't risk 1 week of playing compared to exploits that were done (only in case if you are 1 of that people who did benefit from the very same exploit). Btw 1 more thing, no1 really knows when ppl started to exploit, what we know is when this info came to forum and whole server found out then. Like i said there is random ppl who manage to get 3 clan halls, i don't think roll back 1, 2 days would fix this but wipe for sure would.
Rollback
Coin system make a lot of troublems on server. Few people make just money for few days which gives them even 2kkk adena. GM has blocked that bug but adena is still on that charakters. On server which have one comes adena for few mounth. Now is no way to get biger money so people who are rich now can have even a grade for few days on low lvl charakters. Maybe is not soo big problem but people who make money(some of them) are doing everything to stop difrent player. Like buying all ch. Even good clans which make more than 100kk in normal way cant get ch. Prices of items will by highter to becouse people with money can give that others. There is on good way what to do. MAKE VIPE AND MAKE HIGHER RATE FOR FEW DAYS. I hope that gm know that he make mistake and he will fix it.
I paste it here becuase gm's locking this. They don't like this words +++ for Jajogniot.
What you mean about this solution guys?? It isn't my idea of course :D. (copy /paste mode on)
Quote from: Met4hoh on May 08, 2010, 09:45:46 PM
WHERE THE FUK IS WROTE THAT THIS BUG WAS EXIST FEW HOURS ETC??maby it was existing from beggining. i thing deleted all adena from all chars and making that selling C grade weapons in shops = 0 adena and crystals = 0 adena would be good cuz all crystal what ppl get from cheating go for crafting shots etc i thing its not perfect but good solution ;/(crystals would be cheap when haxors would selling it :D )
wipe would make many ppl leave ;/
but what abut the ppl who dont use the expliot? is not just.. and the weapons of lkuxury shop? u can buy it whit the crys.. ok.. u cant sell crys in shops, but u cna change this chys for oters weapons ;) check all posibles way to fvck the server whit ur idea.. i have more of 10
(http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/2331/shot00006xxy.jpg)
this screenshoot was take it this mornig 4 hour ago after gm fix it.
This is a proof of u dont fix anithing
At this moment, after seeing this screenshot I lost all my power for playing here :) no rollback = valkyria's death
rollback 3 days and weponds C armors C no selled at stores . just for coins
rollback, if you gonna do wipe yu will loose a lot of ppl for sure..
Quote from: SplichO on May 08, 2010, 09:46:49 PM
Wipe, is 1 week of playing better then risking what was left over and when was this exploit being used. There is people random people who got 3 clan halls thnx to this exploit, so roll back would just fuk up half ppl and wont fuk up other half.
+1
dont promise about clan hall problem (should be 1 ch for 1 clan not for bot clan..)
its only 1 week, lol ppl care to lose c grade items?
Quote from: Sokrates on May 08, 2010, 11:48:56 PM
rollback, if you gonna do wipe yu will loose a lot of ppl for sure..
the server go to lost alot of ppl anyway :P
better start from 0 and the ppl will see some "common sense" in admins.
smells like dragon 15 x :)
I just don't understand idiots who want roll back 3 days and server is barelly up for 7 days. Just fuking wipe this sh1t make a higher rate for a full week like x20 for 1 st week that will bring more people specially the 1 st week, this is best suggestion that someone could make.
Quote from: SplichO on May 09, 2010, 12:58:47 AM
I just don't understand idiots who want roll back 3 days and server is barelly up for 7 days. Just fuking wipe this sh1t make a higher rate for a full week like x20 for 1 st week that will bring more people specially the 1 st week, this is best suggestion that someone could make.
u crying cause u want a CH
1st week is the most important on new server, if u failed on something it's ur fault
Dude i am here solo not shooting for a clan hall, i was stating facts and adding clan halls as 1 of major factors why it should be wiped. For your info this is my "fun server" i don't play here for any other reason then when i am bored from grinding on another server to log in here and play something different. But from what i saw those who are against Wiping and they want to roll back 3 days when CH were awarded pretty much shows weakness in expose it self that exploit was used to obtain that same clan halls and for much more. Asking 3 days roll back on a server 7 days old got no sense, and only explanation is as i explained previously that you are 1 of the people who use exploit.
ps. To admins you got to act a bit more mature then this and solve this, what ever you do and decide it must be fast cose this is what will make you lose players not the wipe or roll back, cose people hate to wait specially at weekends.
exploit apeared at 1am yesterday like other guys told u, 2 clan hall were not bought so ur theory is wrong
u spreading wrong infos that scare ppl from this server and that's it
But what about l2w users grinding coins and selling items from NPC ? They got a lot of money since the beginning
check aden godard and rune, all the bigs clans got good clans halls, u think they need l2w to gather 50kk between several ppl ?
the trick to make adenas selling D grade weapon was posted at the 1st day and most of ppl used it to buy quest items, all the ppl/clans that played first week had same chances.