Guys arent u tired of watching clanless orcs+2/3 buffbots killing all the fuking rb?
At least gm should make rb buffeable, coz atm just bots without war killing rb :-\ (buffing rb we can make pvp/long rb)
U implemented this new system coz u said it will be more pvp/fun in rb but tbh its worst than before...
Why would ppl go rb with clan+war chars, when they can easily make 4 bots pt and kill all rb without even making pvp.
And btw lower RB m.def coz its just lol ;) (sh with 9k m.atak hiting 50% of the update rb lower than 150 dmg)
Any opinions?
PK orcs maybe ;D
Quote from: Sesshomaru on June 15, 2010, 06:31:20 PM
PK orcs maybe ;D
Dude we are not in c4 anymore, almost all fking server have wc/xx for buffbot and all rb with random lvl 50 sumoners.
And u tried lately to pk a 7 bot pt killing random rb? (they will relog/have salvation in bots/get sumoned in less than 2 min) ;)
So yea pk is no good option.
Quote from: BanThemAll on June 15, 2010, 06:36:47 PM
Dude we are not in c4 anymore, almost all fking server have wc/xx for buffbot and all rb with random lvl 50 sumoners.
And u tried lately to pk a 7 bot pt killing random rb? (they will relog/have salvation in bots/get sumoned in less than 2 min) ;)
So yea pk is no good option.
- make ur pt on full buffs (mostly an archer pt)
- w8 RB HP be under 5-10% (depends on how strong RB is)
- PK the orcs (after orc is down RB will turn into assist chars, so just need to make 1-2 pk's)
- hit the RB and move it to some hidden place to kill it alone
The only solution for this problem is to publish their spawntimes online. On the other hand, this way you do freak lowlevel clans who are making adena by raiding.
Quote from: HellRaizer on June 16, 2010, 09:27:25 AM
yeah, that's the spirit
i bet it's the only way you nachos can kill any rb
Nops, we kill with DE/TY.
And nachos r from Mexico not from Brazil.
this server is too old for changes . . . this is the true
Quote from: Weezer on June 16, 2010, 02:23:44 PM
Nops, we kill with DE/TY.
And nachos r from Mexico not from Brazil.
Thats the problem.. no one makes rb pt anymore they just log 2 bots+orc and start killing every single rb.
So imo its, rb like now = 0 pvp /0 fun (just bots )
RB like before but with boosted stats/drops and buff/heal = Ppl making long rb /pvp/some fun.
Plxx bring some of the old fun back..
Increase reflect dmg to 50% or more
Make ur own ty/de and farm like others ...
Quote from: Electr0n on June 18, 2010, 12:25:42 PM
Make ur own ty/de and farm like others ...
So i should also bot to get manor crops? or maybe get MS boting in blasing?
That wont fix anything in fact it will make things worst.
Somebody is to slow to fight old skilled players and wanna changes on server to make it better for him self :p
Everybody can make summoners and warcrayers, but some ppl are to lazy. About pking orcs - its possible i was pked many times, and some clans make partys to kill rb with much bigger chance to kill rb.
In my opinion other rbs should be hard to kill like Naga from BS. Orc solo need a lot of time to kill it so if u come with ur clan members u can annihilate easy - if u cant, its about ur skills. Maybe try to improve them
BTW shyeed queen drop only dyna jewels recipes which are worthless since they are so cheap, if this rb could drop jawel fragments ppl will come to kill it, because now its almost always alive
Quote from: sziii on June 27, 2010, 02:29:41 AM
BTW shyeed queen drop only dyna jewels recipes which are worthless since they are so cheap, if this rb could drop jawel fragments ppl will come to kill it, because now its almost always alive
agreed. the drops of queen shyeed make the rb useless. imo, what is needed since ppl are so hungry for rb pts, is to make most of the lowbie bosses that are online 24/7 high level, with a certain chance to drop smth good. so ppl a)will spend more time online b)will need more summoners/bots c)one man just cant kill them all . an option is to make lowbies like the champions in other games, on random number of spawns it goes lvl 85 with good loot. but that requires aditional coding and its not so easy to make.
change spawn time for random,wipe orcs,ban all fkin farmers.......3ple box.
Penalty for S grade weapons if orc 40 lvl killing QA with DHA ( i wrote about it about 1 year ago .....)
We have pro old school Gm and he cant do nothing with that since more than 3 years lol.
Quit that shit and try this :
http://martialempires.gamigo.com/
u cannot stop orcs using bigblunts with grade penalty. its how this weapon works. and if i can kill a lame rb with my archer, so any 1 else can do it - so the orx arent the problem here. the problem is the behind-the-keyboard device. u cant stop the everhungry for loot from farming, exploiting, multiboxing, etc. if ppl dont want to change, its useless to implement new rules, to be avoided just like the old ones.
Quote from: Mab on June 28, 2010, 11:26:29 AM
change spawn time for random,wipe orcs,ban all fkin farmers.......3ple box.
Penalty for S grade weapons if orc 40 lvl killing QA with DHA ( i wrote about it about 1 year ago .....)
We have pro old school Gm and he cant do nothing with that since more than 3 years lol.
Quit that shit and try this :
http://martialempires.gamigo.com/
U really dont know whats lineage about - if u could try to play on others good servers , maybe official, u will realize that destroyers are chars created specially for dealing huge dmg in short time. Everywhere they are the best to kill raid bosses.. Difference is that they cant kill rb with one titan but when need minimum three titans with good gear and about 30min of pure damage dealing without any problems like enemy's around. Imo rbs here are much better after update, but best one is Storm Winged Naga from bs , this rb really take time to kill and hit very hard. RB shouldn't be easy to kill, thats all from me
Quote from: sziii on June 30, 2010, 09:15:44 PM
U really dont know whats lineage about - if u could try to play on others good servers , maybe official, u will realize that destroyers are chars created specially for dealing huge dmg in short time. Everywhere they are the best to kill raid bosses, for example on NC soft retail everyone must have dyna crusher with rsk.focus and titan subclass to go kill rb with clan. Difference is that they cant kill rb with one titan but when need minimum three titans with good gear and about 30min of pure damage dealing without any problems like enemy's around. Imo rbs here are much better after update, but best one is Storm Winged Naga from bs , this rb really take time to kill and hit very hard. RB shouldn't be easy to kill, thats all from me
/agree
but i think its lame mage with 10k m.atk hit some bosses for 300/400/500 dmg. OFC we can raise it by using curse death link (SH and Necros), then we can get to 1k dmg and 4k criticals. 4 sure mage aint tanks, but they should do some good dmg to bosses. Mayb the best way is to have different defense attributes to different bosses.
Take naga as example: He uses fire attacks and fly. So its nice for him to have good defense against melee attacks (since he stands in the air, far from melee attacks) and fire magic attacks (since its his base element), but lower defense against archers (can hit him from far distances and hit him in the air) and other elemental attacks.
Ofc it could be boring for GMs to develop such a attribute system. But its just and idea to make the server more fun. At least I think it would be fun know "Hey, on that boss i can do a good dmg, and on this one i suck big time!"
I like thinking like this, it could be nice if flying rb would take more dmg from ranged damage dealers. About damage from mage on rb - i should be also bigger, ppl dont want to make party like tank+healer+few mags as damages dealers and support to buff them because its much easier to make brutal physical damage from orc. This way ppl kill rbs on all Lineage server - easier way used to be better, but there should be another good option. However ranged character should have few times lower damage then Orc because of huge advantage they have which is ... range. Of course nuker must be better damage dealer then archer and be able to pown some rbs with few ppl in party. Imo archer isnt character to kill raid bosses, they are the most easy and effective on pvp and farm mobs one by one, "you cannot have everything"
Quote from: sziii on June 30, 2010, 09:15:44 PM
U really dont know whats lineage about - if u could try to play on others good servers , maybe official, u will realize that destroyers are chars created specially for dealing huge dmg in short time. Everywhere they are the best to kill raid bosses, for example on NC soft retail everyone must have dyna crusher with rsk.focus and titan subclass to go kill rb with clan. Difference is that they cant kill rb with one titan but when need minimum three titans with good gear and about 30min of pure damage dealing without any problems like enemy's around. Imo rbs here are much better after update, but best one is Storm Winged Naga from bs , this rb really take time to kill and hit very hard. RB shouldn't be easy to kill, thats all from me
sorry dude but you talking out your ass. i am bishop on official ( lvl 83), my party leader is destro 85 and we have another TH 85. we can kill ANY raid boss on the map ( except epics ) in max 6 minutes without using frenzy. using frenzy without vr any raid boss is 2 min job with me keeping destro at 30% hp
destro gear: dynasty set, dynasty crusher + health + 300 attribute and icarus 2h sword 300 attribute + full raid boss jewelry. for frenzy he uses blunt, for full hp he uses 2h sword. raid boss on official are made to be killed by 1 party, you don't even need tank. ( you can go on teon forums - destro is even hero on Teon name raeD ).
at epics like tiat or frintezza with destro 30% hp frenzy + zealot with party angelic icon + judicator buff destro does 2kk crits on frintezza .. yes 2.000.000 dmg crits ! tiat goes down in ~1 minute.
ty/de on dragon is crap compared to destro on official. de is one of best oly farmers with ee + tanks. at ekimus and cohemenes we go with 4 parties and only our party is the damage dealer one since it can kill raidboss in .. 1 min max.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=EL7XF3UD here is a movie of our party, but they had bishop from clan since i wasn't on. zackman - party th, raed - destro, painkick - ol, selqnina - ee and the other are not from our constant
I shouldn't write about official with shot time playing there, however look like u speak about the best titan in Teon with real top gear, so i guess that weaker player should use more then one titan. I knew that destroyer is a very good and not boring char since i started to play in c1. But its he always need some time to get near enemy and pvp i titan weak side when ranged enemy's hit u and somebody can heal u. By the way on Teon Titan have reused skill after each fight? and hp go full when fight start?
Quote from: tzuc on July 05, 2010, 08:49:34 AM
sorry dude but you talking out your ass. i am bishop on official ( lvl 83), my party leader is destro 85 and we have another TH 85. we can kill ANY raid boss on the map ( except epics ) in max 6 minutes without using frenzy. using frenzy without vr any raid boss is 2 min job with me keeping destro at 30% hp
destro gear: dynasty set, dynasty crusher + health + 300 attribute and icarus 2h sword 300 attribute + full raid boss jewelry. for frenzy he uses blunt, for full hp he uses 2h sword. raid boss on official are made to be killed by 1 party, you don't even need tank. ( you can go on teon forums - destro is even hero on Teon name raeD ).
at epics like tiat or frintezza with destro 30% hp frenzy + zealot with party angelic icon + judicator buff destro does 2kk crits on frintezza .. yes 2.000.000 dmg crits ! tiat goes down in ~1 minute.
ty/de on dragon is crap compared to destro on official. de is one of best oly farmers with ee + tanks. at ekimus and cohemenes we go with 4 parties and only our party is the damage dealer one since it can kill raidboss in .. 1 min max.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=EL7XF3UD here is a movie of our party, but they had bishop from clan since i wasn't on. zackman - party th, raed - destro, painkick - ol, selqnina - ee and the other are not from our constant
PRESIDENT, next time make one video about those 2kk damage plz i wanna see this :D
a destro did 2kk damage, than had a beer and everything was back to normal. pigs roamed the brown sky, the yellow grass moved with the northsouthern wind...
yawn.
p.s. theres a trailer of my movie, but they took actors from clan, since i was afk for 4 min
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8Mt5yDqngM
Quote from: Teh noob on July 06, 2010, 01:31:16 PM
a destro did 2kk damage, than had a beer and everything was back to normal. pigs roamed the brown sky, the yellow grass moved with the northsouthern wind...
yawn.
p.s. theres a trailer of my movie, but they took actors from clan, since i was afk for 4 min
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8Mt5yDqngM
http://files.mail.ru/S3KGT9 here is enemy POV - bishop getting owned by hero dagger is me iBishop playing in promi's mage group
seboulba i can't make recording cause i don't play the destro, my party leader does. i'll ask him to do some screens at next Tiat, even though our group doesn't do Tiat anymore on Teon cause there's nothing for our party to get from him. we used to do him on Franz before we transfered to Teon.
(http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/3426/shot00051jp.jpg) here is screenshot of another destro 1kk damage but they didn't have DOD debuff on Tiat
here is screenshot of 1.6kk damage from RU official servers (http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/4664/bc29248724f9.jpg)
Quote from: tzuc on July 06, 2010, 01:38:38 PM
http://files.mail.ru/S3KGT9 here is enemy POV - bishop getting owned by hero dagger is me iBishop playing in promi's mage group
seboulba i can't make recording cause i don't play the destro, my party leader does. i'll ask him to do some screens at next Tiat, even though our group doesn't do Tiat anymore on Teon cause there's nothing for our party to get from him. we used to do him on Franz before we transfered to Teon.
(http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/3426/shot00051jp.jpg) here is screenshot of another destro 1kk damage but they didn't have DOD debuff on Tiat
here is screenshot of 1.6kk damage from RU official servers (http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/4664/bc29248724f9.jpg)
he take his dyna crusher like one dha and nm in only one hand its normal ?
is normal ...is two handed