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Re: Scammed by Dragon GM of mine x9 char
« Reply #6 on: Today at 10:53:43 pm »
Quote from: Lecktor on Today at 06:45:04 pm
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Aug 24 2010 5:07PM Change E-Mail for account [thepsyck2108] from [lecktor@live.nl] to [originaldevilboy@hotmail.it]
since when isnt it safe to play here and frustared gm can change mails on x9
i thought x9 was a fresh start
corruption still there , and haters Wink
better keep your own rules to perm ban scammers its this e-mail where mine x9 account is changed to
better IP ban him tnx originaldevilboy@hotmail.it
keep the server clean
THIS IS OUT OF ANY COMMENT , AND OUTRAGOUS AND QUITE RUDE AND TOTALLY NOT PROFESIONAL.
Valkyria server will take full responsibility for this actions of "gm" how this person is calling himself, however the so called "gm" will be punished and judged for this actions starting now which can affect on his "gm" status to be lost.
I repeat again we will protect our players totally and if needed recover the damage made by (sadly) Dragon-Network staff, however this will NOT REPEAT IN FUTURE YOU HAVE MY WORD ON IT!!
P.S. Lector contact me to get your account back. Angry
Well the things is that some ppl don' t respect Rulez and using same account for DN and Valk ! I ever perma banned many account in valkiria .Scammer / hacker ppl leaving to valkiria coz they were perma on dn with same account ! ... And to restitue item we have to open account ! . We need find a way ... Anyway about Lecktor ' s pb we have to ask drake about .... I tryed but didn' t got him for now .
IF HE SOLD DC FOR MONEY ON DRAGON HE LOST ACCOUNT AS RULES
WE DONT WANT PEOPLE SELL DC FOR MONEY
Quote from: Gian.ard on August 25, 2010, 01:56:26 AM
Aru u sure u banned lecktor for that? ;D
Jul 21 2010 2:16PM FCPORTO 2701323 -1 NEVER! 2 ^ShowStopper^ sell coin for money
Account Name: thepsyck2108
Player Name: FCPORTO
if he is idiot and sell dc with same account where have char in other server is not my fault and as rules of drake
First, a small hint: Don’t trust who say its GM/admin. WE DON’T NEED YOUR ACCOUNT NAME AND/OR PASSWORD! NEVER PROVIDE THEM!
Now, the rules:
• Don’t use terrain exploit for kill raids or mobs, for pk other players or to avoid ingame obstacles (castles/tunnels/doors/anything else)
• Don’t use arena exploit for kill players or mobs
• Don’t use l2walker or any kind of programs for BOT, Hack or Cheat.
• Don’t use any kind of hacks, exploits , cheat. If you find them, be kind to report them (you can even be rewarded).
• Don’t make advertise about L2walker,hacks,cheats or any kind of other sites that aren't dragon-network.net or dragon-community.net.
• Don’t use racial insults.
• Don’t spam in the GENERAL and in the SHOUT chat. (also, please SPEAK ENGLISH when you shout.)
• Don’t sell stuffs for real money in-game or by forum or in any other way.
• Use common sense. A GM can anytime judge you even with rules that aren't listed, if your way of playing is not fair.
The punishment for do not respect those rules will be a Temporarily Ban (from 1 hour up to 2 weeks) or even Permanent Ban.
If you get caught in cooperation with anyone who break the rules (like someone cheating, and you get benefits from the cheat too thanks to your kind friend) you will be found guilty and you will get the same punishment.
Quote from: BiGCaT on August 25, 2010, 12:44:10 AM
THIS IS OUT OF ANY COMMENT , AND OUTRAGOUS AND QUITE RUDE AND TOTALLY NOT PROFESIONAL.
Valkyria server will take full responsibility for this actions of "gm" how this person is calling himself, however the so called "gm" will be punished and judged for this actions starting now which can affect on his "gm" status to be lost.
I repeat again we will protect our players totally and if needed recover the damage made by (sadly) Dragon-Network staff, however this will NOT REPEAT IN FUTURE YOU HAVE MY WORD ON IT!!
P.S. Lector contact me to get your account back. Angry
Well the things is that some ppl don' t respect Rulez and using same account for DN and Valk ! I ever perma banned many account in valkiria .Scammer / hacker ppl leaving to valkiria coz they were perma on dn with same account ! ... And to restitue item we have to open account ! . We need find a way ... Anyway about Lecktor ' s pb we have to ask drake about .... I tryed but didn' t got him for now .
ohh glssy, u have to short hands for valkiria. stay at dragon - server which will die soon beacuse of you. you are just retarded emo pussy, lier, theif and scammer. dragon was better without you. u made this. so stay back from valkyria, we have better gm's than you.
u can now go and cry in drake's arms anf tell him what u made ;)
so far the punishment for selling stuff was perma on the char,its the first time u change pass of a coins seller,the only reason to change pass is to take his stuff since hes already permabanned or to fk him up.It was 100% for personal revenge and abuse of ur GM powers.
Torn do ur job,ppl should be safe to play here and should be able to flame dragon's gms if they like without risk for their valk chars.
Can anyone with some basic fluent english translate what happened ? :)
"Valkyria server will take full responsibility for this actions of "gm" how this person is calling himself, however the so called "gm" will be punished and judged for this actions starting now which can affect on his "gm" status to be lost"
- There are 2 maybe 3 GM's who can do that :) Torn & Descent and maybe Gaia. From my understanding all 3 are close friends and IRL friends. Since Valkyrie is owned by Torn ( i think ) I don't see how you can ask a server owner to remove his own GM. Anyway, accusations of corruption like this don't stand on Valkyrie. Here none of the GM's with full powers have characters or interests ingame.
Me and Protocol don't have any powers to make such a change. Our powers are limited ingame to mostly freezing, muting , teleporting to jail, checking inventory and ip's of players.
Quote from: jailaa on August 25, 2010, 09:03:39 AM
Can anyone with some basic fluent english translate what happened ? :)
"Valkyria server will take full responsibility for this actions of "gm" how this person is calling himself, however the so called "gm" will be punished and judged for this actions starting now which can affect on his "gm" status to be lost"
- There are 2 maybe 3 GM's who can do that :) Torn & Descent and maybe Gaia. From my understanding all 3 are close friends and IRL friends. Since Valkyrie is owned by Torn ( i think ) I don't see how you can ask a server owner to remove his own GM. Anyway, accusations of corruption like this don't stand on Valkyrie. Here none of the GM's with full powers have characters or interests ingame.
Me and Protocol don't have any powers to make such a change. Our powers are limited ingame to mostly freezing, muting , teleporting to jail, checking inventory and ip's of players.
GM showstopper from Dragon 15x changed the account's email of a Valkirya player ,changed his pass and took his stuff to prevent him from playing here(for personal hate towards him). Torn said in the other topic that he will return the account back and make sure Showstopper is punished.In this topic,another Dragon GM -BigCat and Showstopper are crying to Torn. Got it?
Quote from: IvolveR on August 25, 2010, 08:27:37 AM
so far the punishment for selling stuff was perma on the char,its the first time u change pass of a coins seller,the only reason to change pass is to take his stuff since hes already permabanned or to fk him up.It was 100% for personal revenge and abuse of ur GM powers.
Torn do ur job,ppl should be safe to play here and should be able to flame dragon's gms if they like without risk for their valk chars.
Thats is already solved, as i have said in upper post/topic this issue will never ever happen again on Valkyria. Each server has its own GM-s and MUST NOT under any reason interfear with the judgments of the GM-s of the another server, therfor have no worrys about future of your accounts here.
Quote from: jailaa on August 25, 2010, 09:03:39 AM
Can anyone with some basic fluent english translate what happened ? :)
"Valkyria server will take full responsibility for this actions of "gm" how this person is calling himself, however the so called "gm" will be punished and judged for this actions starting now which can affect on his "gm" status to be lost"
- There are 2 maybe 3 GM's who can do that :) Torn & Descent and maybe Gaia. From my understanding all 3 are close friends and IRL friends. Since Valkyrie is owned by Torn ( i think ) I don't see how you can ask a server owner to remove his own GM. Anyway, accusations of corruption like this don't stand on Valkyrie. Here none of the GM's with full powers have characters or interests ingame.
Me and Protocol don't have any powers to make such a change. Our powers are limited ingame to mostly freezing, muting , teleporting to jail, checking inventory and ip's of players.
how old are u , how long have u been playing here? dont u know that if u create yr account u can log to all dn srvs? gm here dont have even this basic knowlege? gz rly,rly gz.... and gl
Quote from: Torn on August 25, 2010, 09:28:18 AM
Thats is already solved, as i have said in upper post/topic this issue will never ever happen again on Valkyria. Each server has its own GM-s and MUST NOT under any reason interfear with the judgments of the GM-s of the another server, therfor have no worrys about future of your accounts here.
= bad users from other servers u are welcomed here :PPP
well, at least in infinity section is clearly written in rules that HACKER ACCOUNT (not char) will get permabanned -------> mail moved to another and pass resetted
it's a rule made just for hacker-ppl that steal items from friends etc
in case of item-sellers, it's a normal permaban on char.
ofc, that's YOUR server, u can do what u want there
but.... well.... before change a mail, check it's not an hacker banned for a good reason (yes they exist)
Quote from: Piccy on August 25, 2010, 11:00:50 AM
well, at least in infinity section is clearly written in rules that HACKER ACCOUNT (not char) will get permabanned -------> mail moved to another and pass resetted
it's a rule made just for hacker-ppl that steal items from friends etc
in case of item-sellers, it's a normal permaban on char.
ofc, that's YOUR server, u can do what u want there
but.... well.... before change a mail, check it's not an hacker banned for a good reason (yes they exist)
I agree, we also do ban "hackers" (the word "hacker" is used here mostly for scammers, which is in the end 99,99% a fault of the owner of account cause of several reasons: sharing the account with a friend, weak username and weak pass, weak mail pass or quite obvious to guess, using l2w or any other "pro" l2 infected third party programs or (miss)clicking on a fake site ) therfor we do always ban the "hacker" of the account but the items stay where they are. This is the 1st time i hear that GM logs every time on the account and take items , maybe they have rule about it but i wont allow it to affect on Vlkyria players thats all , on Dragon/Inf/NM... GM_s have full rights to do what they think its is right or not and i will not judge that.
IF u cheat on dragon-> create a valkyria char just in case, cuz when ur acc gota catch ban, u can QQ to valkyria gm.... :D
RIDICULOUS!
say: visa>glasy? :>
Quote from: Torn on August 25, 2010, 11:36:43 AM
I agree, we also do ban "hackers" (the word "hacker" is used here mostly for scammers, which is in the end 99,99% a fault of the owner of account cause of several reasons: sharing the account with a friend, weak username and weak pass, weak mail pass or quite obvious to guess, using l2w or any other "pro" l2 infected third party programs or (miss)clicking on a fake site ) therfor we do always ban the "hacker" of the account but the items stay where they are. This is the 1st time i hear that GM logs every time on the account and take items , maybe they have rule about it but i wont allow it to affect on Vlkyria players thats all , on Dragon/Inf/NM... GM_s have full rights to do what they think its is right or not and i will not judge that.
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how we can have full right to do what we think w/o have effect on valkirya if all know with 1 account u can join all server ?
u are just saying to your player go make bullshit on other server i protect ur chars in valkirya ;D
1 guy can hack other in infinity for example just for fun and dont lost his char on valkirta cos of ur rule
this is sick
Quote from: Antipop on August 25, 2010, 11:42:37 AM
IF u cheat on dragon-> create a valkyria char just in case, cuz when ur acc gota catch ban, u can QQ to valkyria gm.... :D
RIDICULOUS!
say: visa>glasy? :>
+1 is ridicolous
Quote from: ShowStopper on August 25, 2010, 11:47:09 AM
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how we can have full right to do what we think w/o have effect on valkirya if all know with 1 account u can join all server ?
u are just saying to your player go make bullshit on other server i protect ur chars in valkirya ;D
1 guy can hack other in infinity for example just for fun and dont lost his char on valkirta cos of ur rule
this is sick
Why you have to log peoples accounts?! Permanent ban of char or all characters he have on server and of course where items are and case solved, i dont understand why you keep insisting in taking items from peoples accouts =.=
Quote from: Torn on August 25, 2010, 11:52:54 AM
Why you have to log peoples accounts?! Permanent ban of char or all characters he have on server and of course where items are and case solved, i dont understand why you keep insisting in taking items from peoples accouts =.=
well example ur char hacked for dnet sett icarus bow+f+10
i can't open the char of hacker cos this guy play valkirya
explain me how i give u back the dnet set and icarus bow ?
what i say to you ? you lost ur items sorry stop play ?
is ridicolous gm are here for protect players not only for ban people
Quote from: ShowStopper on August 25, 2010, 11:56:30 AM
well example ur char hacked for dnet sett icarus bow+f+10
i can't open the char of hacker cos this guy play valkirya
explain me how i give u back the dnet set and icarus bow ?
what i say to you ? you lost ur items sorry stop play ?
is ridicolous gm are here for protect players not only for ban people
Psyck is not a hacker and dont play on dragon since years.The only reason you changed pass of his account is because its where he has his Valkirya chars and you wanted to fk him up. Stop talking hipotetically and speak about this case in particular
Quote from: ShowStopper on August 25, 2010, 11:56:30 AM
well example ur char hacked for dnet sett icarus bow+f+10
i can't open the char of hacker cos this guy play valkirya
explain me how i give u back the dnet set and icarus bow ?
what i say to you ? you lost ur items sorry stop play ?
is ridicolous gm are here for protect players not only for ban people
And the reason why he lost the items is? Did you read what i just said about "hackers" on Dragon-Network?
So you wanna tell me this, i play on dragon i make a char play some time get dnet set and icarus + XX and then i give to person A gaiters to person B helemt, person C gloves , person D shoes and person F bow and i come to you and tell you i am scammed, you will ban and change mail from all of them? Also are you sure you did help everyone on Dragon like this, are you sure this is not the private revenage? Do you know what happens with your items and account on official when you get scammed >? (NOTHING) My point is "hackers" should be permanent banned, but logging and taking the items is just insane, in the end its their fault they got scammed in 1st place.
Quote from: IvolveR on August 25, 2010, 12:01:30 PM
Psyck is not a hacker and dont play on dragon since years.The only reason you changed pass of his account is because its where he has his Valkirya chars and you wanted to fk him up. Stop talking hipotetically and speak about this case in particular
if u dont know things pls shut up i changed pass for char FCPORTO that is char on dragon if he use on dragon for malke bullshit 1 account where he have chars on other seerver is only his foult
Go check ban list fcporto banned 21 julie
Quote from: ShowStopper on August 25, 2010, 11:47:09 AM
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how we can have full right to do what we think w/o have effect on valkirya if all know with 1 account u can join all server ?
u are just saying to your player go make bullshit on other server i protect ur chars in valkirya ;D
1 guy can hack other in infinity for example just for fun and dont lost his char on valkirta cos of ur rule
this is sick
For f*ck sake, learn the meaning of the word 'hacker' and use it when it fits, because it doesn't fit here at all. (neither does it fit in 99% of all other cases)
To answer your question, what you should do when a player has chars on both Dragon and another server on the same account, it's pretty simple. Just ban the char(s) on Dragon, the server which he deserves punishment and leave the account alone.
It's like saying someone does not pay taxes in one country (Dragon), which means he needs to pay for the entire amount eventually and therefore they kick him out of his house to pay for the funds that are still open, but since he also has a house in another country (Valkyria, where he does pay taxes and has done nothing wrong) you should take his house in that country as well? You don't have any jurisdiction in that country.
Quote from: ShowStopper on August 25, 2010, 12:04:07 PM
if u dont know things pls shut up i changed pass for char FCPORTO that is char on dragon if he use on dragon for malke bullshit 1 account where he have chars on other seerver is only his foult
Go check ban list fcporto banned 21 julie
The fact you just ban his char on Dragon is fine, the fact you f*ck his char on other servers as well is wrong. Changing his mail and password is none of your business and is simply abuse of GM powers.
Quote from: Torn on August 25, 2010, 12:02:09 PM
And the reason why he lost the items is? Did you read what i just said about "hackers" on Dragon-Network?
So you wanna tell me this, i play on dragon i make a char play some time get dnet set and icarus + XX and then i give to person A gaiters to person B helemt, person C gloves , person D shoes and person F bow and i come to you and tell you i am scammed, you will ban and change mail from all of them? Also are you sure you did help everyone on Dragon like this, are you sure this is not the private revenage? Do you know what happens with your items and account on official when you get scammed >? (NOTHING) My point is "hackers" should be permanent banned, but logging and taking the items is just insane, in the end its their fault they got scammed in 1st place.
well u just say that drake is insane cos he say us work in this way and btw yes hacker must be punished but with ur idea of work i can hack on dragon i can hack on infinity but i can play easy on valkyria nice :D this is really insane cos hacker is hacker on dragon on infinity on nightmare and ofc he will rest hacker on ur Vakyria
Quote from: ShowStopper on August 25, 2010, 12:08:22 PM
well u just say that drake is insane cos he say us work in this way and btw yes hacker must be punished but with ur idea of work i can hack on dragon i can hack on infinity but i can play easy on valkyria nice :D this is really insane cos hacker is hacker on dragon on infinity on nightmare and ofc he will rest hacker on ur Vakyria
I said what i said i will not change my opinion, but for your sake and credibility i advise you dont tempt me anymore. Like it or not we are under the same roof and you are my colleague and i have to respect that, what will people say about us if i am flaming my own roof-mate. Therefor re-read what i said in previous post and you will understand what i have advised you.
Quote from: Torn on August 25, 2010, 12:14:57 PM
I said what i said i will not change my opinion, but for your sake and credibility i advise you dont tempt me anymore. Like it or not we are under the same roof and you are my colleague and i have to respect that, what will people say about us if i am flaming my own roof-mate. Therefor re-read what i said in previous post and you will understand what i have advised you.
I dont change my opinion too sorry for me you wrong ! have a nice day
What will you get from this "fight for the rights" ? You just all got owned by an innocent RMT seller.
Cut this cheap drama or I'll bring more popcorn and coke. ;D
Quote from: Finisterre on August 25, 2010, 12:45:57 PM
What will you get from this "fight for the rights" ? You just all got owned by an innocent RMT seller.
Cut this cheap drama or I'll bring more popcorn and coke. ;D
AND COOKIES????
WANNA COOKIESSSSSSSSS (and maybe milk tnx)
oh well, yes
insult ban for 60h is so stupid
it should be permaban at first time becouse there is no need at all to insult ppl, in any way
ALSO
if they made shit
popcorn + coca cola here 8)
wow, so many posts from GMs!!!
When gracia? xDDD
the solution for curent situation can be simple:
Dragon gm changes mail, changes pass, scams items on dragon, changes mail back, so player can still play on valkiria xD
:)
could, but player must RE-reset mail
remember ppl are lazy --------------> GO VOTE
When i saw the post on bad users i quicky spoke to descent and it was unfair for glasy to ban his char. And for glasy we dont use players items or take them when they are ban.
Ok summary of what I understand from the posts:
Lektor sold DC for money according to GM on DNx15.
According to rules of DNx15 :
Don’t sell stuffs for real money in-game or by forum or in any other way.
The punishment for do not respect those rules will be a Temporarily Ban (from 1 hour up to 2 weeks) or even Permanent Ban.
So Dragon GM logs his account by first changing his e-mail (so he can change pass duh).
He takes items of Dragon Char ?
What he should do is : Change mail back, so player can still play on valkiria
from what I can understand, correct me if i am wrong...
Torn sry for that word but are you Stupid?
DN work like Company GM problem shold be solve on GM rang you shold know it or that you are GM are mistake
i don't understand why you inv ppl too your problem you know if GM need back items to ppl he can't create them and back he need take from hacker
i don't say who is good or who is bad but that topic you make its just stupid. It look like you can't solve some problem and try blame it to other one. i see it in this way and i think many ppl too
chacker never say he is chacker so thay will be cry that thay don't do it
next time pls make GM meeting and solve sh1ts in GMs range don't inv no needer PPL then server will be better
Quote from: protocol on August 25, 2010, 01:32:55 PM
When i saw the post on bad users i quicky spoke to descent and it was unfair for glasy to ban his char. And for glasy we dont use players items or take them when they are ban.
Well mate i really dont know how much money u are taking for beeing gm on x9,but there is a lot of things that u dont know about glasy...Is just random noob guy who is living in italy probably made some donations and so get knowing drake(later payed to bee gm :D )
remember begging to become gm and if so beeing fair,but 1st day drake allowed gm as a player its maximum corruption :D expecially this last few days when glasy become so good friend with bigcat,after lector flaming him so much for beeing a cow :D he desided to set up so called scam for lector for scamming his own uncle,or aleggro seller who knows even glasy dont know what should lie now :D
Even ppl like me that dont really like Psyck know verry well that he isnt scammer/seller is just set up from glasy cuz much flame,now he will go and cry to drake that u didnt respect his rulles...
Quote from: LucasN4F on August 25, 2010, 02:10:44 PM
Torn sry for that word but are you Stupid?
DN work like Company GM problem shold be solve on GM rang you shold know it or that you are GM are mistake
i don't understand why you inv ppl too your problem you know if GM need back items to ppl he can't create them and back he need take from hacker
i don't say who is good or who is bad but that topic you make its just stupid. It look like you can't solve some problem and try blame it to other one. i see it in this way and i think many ppl too
chacker never say he is chacker so thay will be cry that thay don't do it
next time pls make GM meeting and solve sh1ts in GMs range don't inv no needer PPL then server will be better
For a long time now most GM's on Dragon, Nightmare and Infinity except top level gm's DO NOT HAVE BUILDER RIGHTS ! Showstopper can't summon, create items, so ( from what I understand, I hope I'm not wrong ) he is taking items from banned players. I don't know Dragon and don't care about either the players or the GM's there but GM's shouldn't have access to a character's items: banned or not.
Quote from: LucasN4F on August 25, 2010, 02:10:44 PM
Torn sry for that word but are you Stupid?
DN work like Company GM problem shold be solve on GM rang you shold know it or that you are GM are mistake
i don't understand why you inv ppl too your problem you know if GM need back items to ppl he can't create them and back he need take from hacker
i don't say who is good or who is bad but that topic you make its just stupid. It look like you can't solve some problem and try blame it to other one. i see it in this way and i think many ppl too
chacker never say he is chacker so thay will be cry that thay don't do it
next time pls make GM meeting and solve sh1ts in GMs range don't inv no needer PPL then server will be better
Mate this is not torn mistake trust me ,glasy is setting up to lector becouse lector flamed him nothing else...u dont know that gm(glasy from x15 took all items from banned char of lector)
Quote from: ShowStopper on August 25, 2010, 12:04:07 PM
if u dont know things pls shut up i changed pass for char FCPORTO that is char on dragon if he use on dragon for malke bullshit 1 account where he have chars on other seerver is only his foult
Go check ban list fcporto banned 21 julie
I can't believe, I simply can't, that Dragon server fell so low, to get someone like You to be a GM ... You can't even write in English and let's not discuss about Your actions.
For me i dont really what goes on at other servers. I dont get paid to do my job i do it because i want to help torn and descent. I dont like gms from other servers bannin our players. Only me and jaila do that job
Quote from: rezz on August 25, 2010, 02:28:35 PM
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nothing to add ;]
To sum up:
1st glasy ban psyck
2nd he permaban his uncle pktrouble AND take his coins
3rd he permaban his friend ner0x for no reason AND tke his coins
4th he tries to permaban psyck on valkira
5th to make ner0x stfu he offer him unban AND 100 of pktrouble's coins in pm
If i were torn or descend i would do anything in my powers to get showstopper removed as gm.Its ur duty to help the network and stop this injustice
PPL when you post somethink pls read it and think about what you write cuz you make problem from nothink
if he sell or scam items for me its normal that all chars he was got ban for solve problem
and like some one say that he don't say nothink but he want help Torn
let he help Torn but not in cost other gms Torn make big mistake making this topic oficial GMs shold solve it in GMs range speak with Drake and GMs
all mess make Torn so i think you shold have problem to him but better blame some one who make somethink not only talk about somethink simple
Quote from: LucasN4F on August 25, 2010, 02:52:24 PM
PPL when you post somethink pls read it and think about what you write cuz you make problem from nothink
if he sell or scam items for me its normal that all chars he was got ban for solve problem
and like some one say that he don't say nothink but he want help Torn
let he help Torn but not in cost other gms Torn make big mistake making this topic oficial GMs shold solve it in GMs range speak with Drake and GMs
all mess make Torn so i think you shold have problem to him but better blame some one who make somethink not only talk about somethink simple
I have read your post few times and i think i totally understand it, so let me sum up some things:
1) I didnt made any new topic regarding the case
2) I dont mess my fingers in other servers (no matter what is my opinion about it)
3) As gm and admin of this server i have to protect my players from the injustice made by others
4) I didnt want to argue on forum (which i never do tbh) but showstoper keep insiting on it with his insulting replys
5) I added him even on msn but obviously he dont wanna accept me to sort this things out
and last but not least
6) Why should i sort it privately? I have nothing to hide and nothing to be a shame of
So as you said before reply here make sure you DO know all the facts related to case.
p.ss About the screen posted here, i really prefer not to comment it.
Quote from: IvolveR on August 25, 2010, 02:44:37 PM
To sum up:
1st glasy ban psyck
2nd he permaban his uncle pktrouble AND take his coins
3rd he permaban his friend ner0x for no reason AND tke his coins
4th he tries to permaban psyck on valkira
5th to make ner0x stfu he offer him unban AND 100 of pktrouble's coins in pm
If i were torn or descend i would do anything in my powers to get showstopper removed as gm.Its ur duty to help the network and stop this injustice
I am sorry to hear this, but you have more then 1 gm, make a petition for GM meeting or make a poll or vote between you, i will not interfere.
emh :)
edited screen
check sent time pm
13.36 AM doesn't exist :D and forum doesn't display them this way
it should be 01.36 pm (try send eachother a pm now and test it :D)
Quote from: Lecktor on August 25, 2010, 02:40:15 PM
pktrouble was mine uncle his char ;D
(http://i35.tinypic.com/besqv6.png)
Kinda sad that this coruption is on the network
scamm ban and try to manipulate ;)
i am not Polish i dont use selling site ,how far will we go whit this dragon gm dumb
u should learn use better photoshop
Quote from: Torn on August 25, 2010, 03:06:07 PM
p.ss About the screen posted here, i really prefer not to comment it.
i want read ur comment cos u if are not able to see a fake screen edit in bad way with photoshop well i have really no words
Quote from: Piccy on August 25, 2010, 03:08:04 PM
emh :)
GG xD
Sorry bout cookies but she ate all
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Quote from: ShowStopper on August 25, 2010, 03:29:00 PM
u should learn use better photoshop
i want read ur comment cos u if are not able to see a fake screen edit in bad way with photoshop well i have really no words
Pictures or no pictures, it still doesnt change a situation what you did and why this all mess is happening. And you better stop teasing me i advised you for 2nd time.
Quote from: Finisterre on August 25, 2010, 03:31:14 PM
GG xD
Sorry bout cookies but she ate all
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OMFG
i hope that this mouth is edited couse... emh.... ok......... pedobear in action !!!!
best will be move lecktors in valkyria char to other acc and email and all will end xD
Quote from: protocol on August 25, 2010, 02:38:09 PM
For me i dont really what goes on at other servers. I dont get paid to do my job i do it because i want to help torn and descent. I dont like gms from other servers bannin our players. Only me and jaila do that job
Its ok,u are helping gm's thats all.But imagine what glasy does,banning ppl for 'scamming' and then take coins from char and share with his clannies...he does that for long time its Confirmed by his clan mates...U understand when u enter to DX u are protected from bans and u get coins items really fast get really OP even if u dont get any epic raid or castle,guess from where ? :D
Torn its look like that if some one Play your server he can Scam other server cuz you Protect them
So i can make char on your server Scam other server and nobody can't do nothink with me?
cool :) i think i do that
Welll... Glasy you are total dumb in my opinion.
All who balame should first off all read this
http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,224035.msg2198186.html#msg2198186
I checked out forum settings of this guy and it's really showing like he posted on screen, but only at forum message box.
Cheack it out if you don't belive...
Well white box on the right side of screenshot doesnt make it to belive it was done with photoshop or other professional software.
So in my opnion screenshot is 100% OK and no one should have reason to cry about "fake screenshot" or smth.
shame on you glassy
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glassy n/c
Quote from: Torn on August 25, 2010, 03:35:21 PM
Pictures or no pictures, it still doesnt change a situation what you did and why this all mess is happening. And you better stop teasing me i advised you for 2nd time.
Ofc you wont do anything. IF Glasy remains, more ppl will leave dragon and will come to Valkirya so you win more players.
The longer he stays the more players you will get and ppl in Dragon will have to suffer cuz u got no balls to stand up against Glasy.
Quote from: Piccy on August 25, 2010, 03:08:04 PM
emh :)
edited screen
check sent time pm
13.36 AM doesn't exist :D and forum doesn't display them this way
it should be 01.36 pm (try send eachother a pm now and test it :D)
look at the screen rezz posted about time options
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5308190/szot2.png
and now look on top right corner where it shows time it shows it with "am"
i made my time options the same as his and it shows 25 August 2010, 16:05:28 am *
Quote from: IvolveR on August 25, 2010, 03:59:39 PM
Ofc you wont do anything. IF Glasy remains, more ppl will leave dragon and will come to Valkirya so you win more players.
The longer he stays the more players you will get and ppl in Dragon will have to suffer cuz u got no balls to stand up against Glasy.
So,all we need to do is kick glasy from community! he showed to all of us that he is dumb for this game,he is noob for pvp for coding...from begining all we could see from glasyalatard is big corruption...Just becouse he is licking drake's ass to good he thinks he is GOD ::)
Quote from: ShowStopper on August 25, 2010, 03:29:00 PM
u should learn use better photoshop
After 2 years You still don't know how this forum is working ... Impressive ...
Quote from: DarkVengeance on August 25, 2010, 04:13:27 PM
After 2 years You still don't know how this forum is working ... Impressive ...
hahahah and u think he will ever know how this forum or game working?
Quote from: GlasyTheTard on August 25, 2010, 04:08:03 PM
So,all we need to do is kick glasy from community! he showed to all of us that he is dumb for this game,he is noob for pvp for coding...from begining all we could see from glasyalatard is big corruption...Just becouse he is licking drake's ass to good he thinks he is GOD ::)
that man who make GlasyTheTard you IQ is impressing some one say that Torn is bad and Glasy good and you even don't understand it
but if some one copy all this topic and mix it will be Comedy close this topic better cuz cuz Blame Glasy or Torn is no sens
som one just don't understand that if GM need change pass to Dragon account he change pass too all server for this account
ppl read Rules and keep with it then you will be have no problem
BTW for finish why so many haters of Glasy deffend glasy i think its saying that he is currect!
how long you will keep topic open that long all serves only lose cuz if ppl see bad gm on dragon and valkiria he just go to difrend server
Quote from: IvolveR on August 25, 2010, 04:07:23 PM
look at the screen rezz posted about time options
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5308190/szot2.png
and now look on top right corner where it shows time it shows it with "am"
i made my time options the same as his and it shows 25 August 2010, 16:05:28 am *
ah so i should manually put a wrong timecount ?
becouse automatic option says p/am (or it's totally empty for basic time)
kk tnx for info i was wondering why i didn't get it
I got tired to read everyone posts here....i am a dragon player for 4 years now....i got sick of all the shits and flames each one of well known community chars have posted in this forum.....every single post is full of useless spam replies/cries and flames of each one of you to another.....to see it from players is so common as the air we breathe....but to see it from GM's and Moderators is pathetic!!! I am really sorry you all GM's show the lowest appreciation to the players of the Network (no matter which server is) and you start flamming and warning each other in public view and boast like frogs you have nothing to hide!!!!!!!!! YOU ARE SUPPOSED to be collegues and support each other and handling issues like this IN PRIVATE so that the message players on this netwrok would get is that they have a very well informed and helpful GM team to support their game at THE WHOLE NETWORK......i don't care if you are good or bad or moderate as GM's in your servers.......i know you are embarassing the DN-NETWORK by flamming/accussing and warning each other in common view of all the players.....
P.S.: My personal opinion is that: 1. Dragon as long with other servers are ALL dying and you should do something about it before it is too late...Clean up your servers from bots and hackers and you will see there are only so few players active.....
2. Many players have shown really bad behavior and some of them need to have a restriction to all DN-NETWORK, not only one server alone.......
3. apparently not all of you are suit to be gm's.......Drake should be more careful in Gm's picking or he will end up alone with dead servers.....
Quote from: IvolveR on August 25, 2010, 03:59:39 PM
Ofc you wont do anything. IF Glasy remains, more ppl will leave dragon and will come to Valkirya so you win more players.
The longer he stays the more players you will get and ppl in Dragon will have to suffer cuz u got no balls to stand up against Glasy.
You are clearly wrong here, i have 0 interest to attract dragon or any other DN servers players, i have nothing to win from this. I just stated that my players (who ever they are) will have safe accounts here (as long as they dont brake Valkyria 9x rules !!!, and even they brake them they will get deserved punish for it but never mail change account and so on..thats a big mistake doing it who ever is doing it), in the end we are building with 5 floors, we live under the same roof yes, but each floor have its own rules. So no, i dont wanna rip any population i want plain new players but things like this arent good to be seen by new memebers, so its not about balls or no balls is just players protection, and if you ask me about your peotection, you have to talk about it with other GM-s from your server and the possible solutions. Even as i can see most of the community throw stones on Showstopper as long as i am part of the staff here i wont talk bad about my GM comrades. I hope i explained you better now,thanks.
Quote from: xDejavux on August 25, 2010, 04:36:35 PM
I got tired to read everyone posts here....i am a dragon player for 4 years now....i got sick of all the shits and flames each one of well known community chars have posted in this forum.....every single post is full of useless spam replies/cries and flames of each one of you to another.....to see it from players is so common as the air we breathe....but to see it from GM's and Moderators is pathetic!!! I am really sorry you all GM's show the lowest appreciation to the players of the Network (no matter which server is) and you start flamming and warning each other in public view and boast like frogs you have nothing to hide!!!!!!!!! YOU ARE SUPPOSED to be collegues and support each other and handling issues like this IN PRIVATE so that the message players on this netwrok would get is that they have a very well informed and helpful GM team to support their game at THE WHOLE NETWORK......i don't care if you are good or bad or moderate as GM's in your servers.......i know you are embarassing the DN-NETWORK by flamming/accussing and warning each other in common view of all the players.....
P.S.: My personal opinion is that: 1. Dragon as long with other servers are ALL dying and you should do something about it before it is too late...Clean up your servers from bots and hackers and you will see there are only so few players active.....
2. Many players have shown really bad behavior and some of them need to have a restriction to all DN-NETWORK, not only one server alone.......
3. apparently not all of you are suit to be gm's.......Drake should be more careful in Gm's picking or he will end up alone with dead servers.....
Obviously you didnt read my posts cause i said exactly the same thing you are complaining against.
Quote from: Piccy on August 25, 2010, 04:33:30 PM
ah so i should manually put a wrong timecount ?
becouse automatic option says p/am (or it's totally empty for basic time)
kk tnx for info i was wondering why i didn't get it
There can be multiple reasons why it showed wrong date format - meaby one of his friends or family member have done a joke for him or he has simply put wrong date format that has been found on IT board posted by noob and he has simply used it.
Stop looking for problems there where they are not. I have just noticed that you were the first person who discovered this "bug" with date on forum and this is only the reason why you'r trying to figure out to blame him to dont become a donkey in community eyes. Nothing more to add :-*
I dont play on x15 atm,but I know glassy as GM and it's in his style to do such a thing.
Quote from: LucasN4F on August 25, 2010, 02:10:44 PM
Torn sry for that word but are you Stupid?
DN work like Company GM problem shold be solve on GM rang you shold know it or that you are GM are mistake
i don't understand why you inv ppl too your problem you know if GM need back items to ppl he can't create them and back he need take from hacker
i don't say who is good or who is bad but that topic you make its just stupid. It look like you can't solve some problem and try blame it to other one. i see it in this way and i think many ppl too
chacker never say he is chacker so thay will be cry that thay don't do it
next time pls make GM meeting and solve sh1ts in GMs range don't inv no needer PPL then server will be better
Quote from: LucasN4F on August 25, 2010, 02:52:24 PM
PPL when you post somethink pls read it and think about what you write cuz you make problem from nothink
if he sell or scam items for me its normal that all chars he was got ban for solve problem
and like some one say that he don't say nothink but he want help Torn
let he help Torn but not in cost other gms Torn make big mistake making this topic oficial GMs shold solve it in GMs range speak with Drake and GMs
all mess make Torn so i think you shold have problem to him but better blame some one who make somethink not only talk about somethink simple
Quote from: LucasN4F on August 25, 2010, 03:55:58 PM
Torn its look like that if some one Play your server he can Scam other server cuz you Protect them
So i can make char on your server Scam other server and nobody can't do nothink with me?
cool :) i think i do that
Quote from: LucasN4F on August 25, 2010, 04:26:29 PM
that man who make GlasyTheTard you IQ is impressing some one say that Torn is bad and Glasy good and you even don't understand it
but if some one copy all this topic and mix it will be Comedy close this topic better cuz cuz Blame Glasy or Torn is no sens
som one just don't understand that if GM need change pass to Dragon account he change pass too all server for this account
ppl read Rules and keep with it then you will be have no problem
BTW for finish why so many haters of Glasy deffend glasy i think its saying that he is currect!
how long you will keep topic open that long all serves only lose cuz if ppl see bad gm on dragon and valkiria he just go to difrend server
Haha epic. You fail at English and understanding the situation, you look a bit like ShowStopper, family by any chance?
Name: LucasN4F
Posts: 6 (N/A per day)
Position: Vagabond
Rec's: -1
Date Registered: Today at 13:56:32
Last Active: Today at 16:28:24
I lol'ed.
Quote from: Torek [IF] on August 25, 2010, 04:57:07 PM
so if a person is a fakin bad user on another server u don't care about it.
imho if a person is a bad user he deserve an account ban, no matter how many chars he has on valky
To a certain limit, and even if so, that decision remains by the GM of that particular server. Each server has their own jurisdiction, else it would be total chaos. (like now)
Besides, if that was the case, I would have never been able to play on NM after moving from Dragon !
Quote from: LucasN4F on August 25, 2010, 04:26:29 PM
that man who make GlasyTheTard you IQ is impressing some one say that Torn is bad and Glasy good and you even don't understand it
but if some one copy all this topic and mix it will be Comedy close this topic better cuz cuz Blame Glasy or Torn is no sens
som one just don't understand that if GM need change pass to Dragon account he change pass too all server for this account
ppl read Rules and keep with it then you will be have no problem
BTW for finish why so many haters of Glasy deffend glasy i think its saying that he is currect!
how long you will keep topic open that long all serves only lose cuz if ppl see bad gm on dragon and valkiria he just go to difrend server
my IQ is 125 :P and u r's 66 maximum :D
first of all, since Torn is replying here I have got a question! When, my dear Admin, will you reply to topics about alot of bugs/not working skills/petitions about rising retail lvl up and so on... we've waited long enough for your answer don't you think?
Let's move on with what I want to say/ask, to you misterious guy "showstopper" (so called glasy as I can see), how did you manage to get a hold of GM position with such low lvl of your english?! moreover how did you manage to keep your position, if you can't think straight, use common sense and be a fair judge? I don't want to insult you by saying "you have no brain" (like most of ppl here thinks about you), but I am really curious about you, how you do what you do here on DN!?
The last but not least - I really don't like Lecktor, his behaviour is just, well, n/c but even so, you had no right to foking do anything with his char here. Your actions show only that you are a greedy man who wants more power, and who doesnt care at all if he foks up other GM's work...
IMO
/kick glasy aka showstopper from this community : )
ok....
QI fight
who is "85" ?
yes it's a name !! (better a nick)
Quote from: Akira on August 25, 2010, 05:08:19 PM
Let's move on with what I want to say/ask, to you misterious guy "showstopper" (so called glasy as I can see), how did you manage to get a hold of GM position with such low lvl of your english?! moreover how did you manage to keep your position, if you can't think straight, use common sense and be a fair judge? I don't want to insult you by saying "you have no brain" (like most of ppl here thinks about you), but I am really curious about you, how you do what you do here on DN!?
I can answer that one for you, sort of.
He is an (old? Not sure, when I played never heard of him, so was nobody special back then) Dragon player, and is still playing on Dragon with his clan, he is Italian and I presume he is a friend of Drake in real life.
Quote from: Akira on August 25, 2010, 05:08:19 PM
first of all, since Torn is replying here I have got a question! When, my dear Admin, will you reply to topics about alot of bugs/not working skills/petitions about rising retail lvl up and so on... we've waited long enough for your answer don't you think?
Let's move on with what I want to say/ask, to you misterious guy "showstopper" (so called glasy as I can see), how did you manage to get a hold of GM position with such low lvl of your english?! moreover how did you manage to keep your position, if you can't think straight, use common sense and be a fair judge? I don't want to insult you by saying "you have no brain" (like most of ppl here thinks about you), but I am really curious about you, how you do what you do here on DN!?
The last but not least - I really don't like Lecktor, his behaviour is just, well, n/c but even so, you had no right to foking do anything with his char here. Your actions show only that you are a greedy man who wants more power, and who doesnt care at all if he foks up other GM's work...
IMO
/kick glasy aka showstopper from this community : )
I prefer working > testing > applying then announcing. Giving random ETA on things is really a bad thing, so patience. I am Torn and my actions are only relevant here.
showstopper aint valkyria gm right? Just to make my mind clean....
Quote from: IvolveR on August 25, 2010, 03:59:39 PM
Ofc you wont do anything. IF Glasy remains, more ppl will leave dragon and will come to Valkirya so you win more players.
The longer he stays the more players you will get and ppl in Dragon will have to suffer cuz u got no balls to stand up against Glasy.
it is redicilus to see clan like severance synd lod reserv ff and more "strong" clan speak about corruption in dn...
all this clan have full protection of gm becouse of ppl in clan and them cry in forum
all ppl take ban couse of them way out of rule but when some ppl members take ban some ppl cry like babys...
gm of dragon was slave of this cry and power of ppl who have some clan and when something go "rong" the forum in dn take fire from cryers
alergo seller/l2 walker/bugs/multeskill/ O/E weapons-skillsfake heros/scam/and more is in list of of "big clans"
i dont remember clan of glasy had ever aden or any big town
i dont remember member of dx have multeskill or canot die like some ppl of defrent "big clans"
at the final gz to "gm" of valk. that they have be allready DOGS of scammers/program. users/"pro" bug players in afraid of dont lose them ppl
sry for very bad english
over 5.5 years player of D.N. x15
over 5.5 years alone in my way
clan leader of OlympiansGods
GreekSoul
ok i'm very tired and don't work on grama but if you know little english its easy too see that
Lecktor hate glasy and with his friend want make him disipire
no i'm not glasy Famili i'm diffrend country
but tards like say that say have no opinion but want help Torn, its look like players on Torn server can scam players on other server cuz Torn will protectem y that definitly save server from sh1ts
I think the point of the topic is breached, what is said and done its already here, re-read whole topic if you want to know what happened.
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