Poll
Question:
Nerf Archers a bit...
Option 1: Yes!
Option 2: No!
Yes or No ... without WC/SWS u can't even start pvp with archer + IC ... even if u will get 3k+ p def 0.0 don't spam just "VOTE" kktybb
yes u can
ofc yes, arhers are o/p and now when he buy haste from certificate (it should have 5%) but they got haste all the time !
Quote from: Evolution on October 26, 2010, 08:31:52 PM
without WC/SWS u can't even start pvp
sound like "without a spoon i cant even eat a soup" such injustice damn.
Quote from: Evolution on October 26, 2010, 08:31:52 PM
Yes or No ... without WC/SWS u can't even start pvp with archer + IC ... even if u will get 3k+ p def 0.0 don't spam just "VOTE" kktybb
read Alex if u can ;)
Quote from: Evolution on October 26, 2010, 08:31:52 PM
Yes or No ... without WC/SWS u can't even start pvp with archer + IC ... even if u will get 3k+ p def 0.0 don't spam just "VOTE" kktybb
No ,get sws/wc and stop whining .
Plus that pole is useless ,nothing is OP around archers ,i would also say that Hellbound chronicle with so many archer ressists is clearly
anti-archer chornicle .
So suck it up and buff yourself properly .
kktybb.
Quote from: Deavon on October 26, 2010, 09:28:05 PM
No ,get sws/wc and stop whining .
Plus that pole is useless ,nothing is OP around archers ,i would also say that Hellbound chronicle with so many archer ressists is clearly
anti-archer chornicle .
So suck it up and buff yourself properly .
kktybb.
look who write it ^^ i just w8 for ur blame answer... :P 1st. i got sws/wc 2nd. not every1 have it. ::) nothing OP? so just make mages same crit like Archers ::) its look smhting like this...
Archer:
350dmg -> 4000dmg -> 5000dmg -> 3500dmg -> 350dmg -> 5000dmg -> 6000dmg
Mage:
400dmg -> 500dmg! -> 350dmg -> 400dmg -> 3500dmg!!! (wow) -> 350dmg
anyway archer is op on many way's not just on crit... ::) ps. Archers i write it again... dont spam here just Vote! peace ;)
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np give me also 1500 heal power and 2,5k casting speed and i m fine to raise the magic critical rate of mages .
You see the point of my comments? Or you became another ignorance person too ?
Also ,you cant tell me to dont write here since you opened a topic which includes my interests ,so i have to defend them with facts and not bullcraps like yours .
Just for your information ,you have already lost the topic battle since you self pointed that you have the propetly buffs you can defend fine vs any archer .
yea but archer cant spam heal or debuffs like cancel
only f1,f1,f1... stun :D
Archers are OP :o , this server should be broken.
I've met problems vs tanks on other server , with full buffs + Vesper weapon lvl 7 attributes and Found Dynasty armor+6 lvl 7 attributes are OP freakING SH1t .
another QQ topic about archers..lol
imo u should get some knowledges about l2..if u start a pvp whit just pp buffs and dances its sure that u'll die in 2 hit and archers will hit u for 3k and over.
just buff urself properly and add some right attributes on ur armos.
so wanna talk archers or maybe u wanna say smth about cancel or some other mage skills?
u have to stfu a bit and dont make xx QQ topic
Quote from: Tabbox on October 26, 2010, 11:05:44 PM
another QQ topic about archers..lol
imo u should get some knowledges about l2..if u start a pvp whit just pp buffs and dances its sure that u'll die in 2 hit and archers will hit u for 3k and over.
just buff urself properly and add some right attributes on ur armos.
so wanna talk archers or maybe u wanna say smth about cancel or some other mage skills?
u have to stfu a bit and dont make xx QQ topic
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i wote yes...guess why ---> http://img232.imageshack.us/i/tuyhh.jpg/ (http://img232.imageshack.us/i/tuyhh.jpg/) <---
Server looks like is voting yes, funny ?till some tard with archer ingame deletes the topic like usuall
Point is everyone can predict what kind of attack a mage has so u can take the proper buffs, while a mage cant predict what attri an archer has.
getting attributes on armor as i pointed many times before is pointless unless u got 3 resist parts on an attribute.
As for the archer resist buffs lol nice joke.
Vs mage dark attacks u got dnet set , frintezza, a song , a dance , 2 resist buffs .
Now tell me again what u got against archers.... a 4 min buff and a 2 min song. nice
Quote from: lucifsg on October 27, 2010, 12:50:39 AM
Server looks like is voting yes, funny ?till some tard with archer ingame deletes the topic like usuall
Point is everyone can predict what kind of attack a mage has so u can take the proper buffs, while a mage cant predict what attri an archer has.
getting attributes on armor as i pointed many times before is pointless unless u got 3 resist parts on an attribute.
As for the archer resist buffs lol nice joke.
Vs mage dark attacks u got dnet set , frintezza, a song , a dance , 2 resist buffs .
Now tell me again what u got against archers.... a 4 min buff and a 2 min song. nice
hey moron, what u talk ? u read or u re blind? f.e if i get 3 resist parts on dark and 3 on water, then i ll get bilion dmg from sh or from sps(with holy wipon)
We have buffs agains every char and everyclass...you dont have buffs just agains mages, archers and daggers and mages ...myb archers too and daggers
Quote from: lucifsg on October 27, 2010, 12:50:39 AM
till some tard with archer ingame deletes the topic like usuall
ownd?
Quote from: trooperXkoki on October 27, 2010, 01:20:48 AM
hey moron, what u talk ? u read or u re blind? f.e if i get 3 resist parts on dark and 3 on water, then i ll get bilion dmg from sh or from sps(with holy wipon)
We have buffs agains every char and everyclass...you dont have buffs just agains mages, archers and daggers and mages ...myb archers too and daggersownd?
pls teach me how to play bag ^^
Quote from: trooperXkoki on October 27, 2010, 12:11:00 AM
i wote yes...guess why ---> http://img232.imageshack.us/i/tuyhh.jpg/ (http://img232.imageshack.us/i/tuyhh.jpg/) <---
cancel should be nerfed but arhers too, only sps have chance with arher after cancel but rest class are really freaked up, frint gives too big bonus for arhers
Quote from: lucifsg on October 27, 2010, 12:50:39 AM
Vs mage dark attacks u got dnet set , frintezza, a song , a dance , 2 resist buffs .
Now tell me again what u got against archers.... a 4 min buff and a 2 min song. nice
Be objective if you wanna make a point and to dont get flamed as most of the times .
Those 2 buffs you talking about are not 2 but 3 at least if i DONT mention the kamael archer buffs resists .
The 3rd buff is dance !!! Suprise !!!
Now lets go with the effects : COP = - 30% critical damage
: Song of Windstorm =- 30% archer damage recieved
: Dance of Bladestorm = - 30% archer damage recieved .
TOTAL = -90% archer damage WITHOUT including the p.deffence and UD's .
"NOTICE" i repeat WITHOUT Kamael archer ressists "
So now if you want you can analyse me the mage ressists and compare if in the end its anti-chronicle or not .
Quote from: Deavon on October 27, 2010, 02:35:05 AM
Be objective if you wanna make a point and to dont get flamed as most of the times .
Those 2 buffs you talking about are not 2 but 3 at least if i DONT mention the kamael archer buffs resists .
The 3rd buff is dance !!! Suprise !!!
Now lets go with the effects : COP = - 30% critical damage
: Song of Windstorm =- 30% archer damage recieved
: Dance of Bladestorm = - 30% archer damage recieved .
TOTAL = -90% archer damage WITHOUT including the p.deffence and UD's .
"NOTICE" i repeat WITHOUT Kamael archer ressists "
So now if you want you can analyse me the mage ressists and compare if in the end its anti-chronicle or not .
blade storm maby give 30% but he take 90% m atak it is not use full for mages
windstorm is totaly freaked up give maby 20%
cop dunno but on full buf with windstorm and cop with atr full in evry parts dark/wather/fire/wind/holy and i got dmg from good geared arher for 2k so somethink is bad but not me if i got full resist for arhers, From archer like you pr/glad most power full archer i got 4k+ so? i am noob because i don't have chance with archer? i am noob beacuse on cast 2,5k on malaria and heal 1,9k i heal my self slower then archer with ic bow with atak spd 2k hitink me? you still think archers are not o/p now necro is totally freaked up only sps can do somethink with holy attack, frinteza got too big bost, ic bow too this should be changed ! or this serv really die for mages and 90% here make archers
Quote from: chlipus on October 27, 2010, 07:08:08 AM
blade storm maby give 30% but he take 90% m atak it is not use full for mages
windstorm is totaly freaked up give maby 20%
cop dunno but on full buf with windstorm and cop with atr full in evry parts dark/wather/fire/wind/holy and i got dmg from good geared arher for 2k so somethink is bad but not me if i got full resist for arhers, From archer like you pr/glad most power full archer i got 4k+ so? i am noob because i don't have chance with archer? i am noob beacuse on cast 2,5k on malaria and heal 1,9k i heal my self slower then archer with ic bow with atak spd 2k hitink me? you still think archers are not o/p now necro is totally freaked up only sps can do somethink with holy attack, frinteza got too big bost, ic bow too this should be changed ! or this serv really die for mages and 90% here make archers
for this all answers i just agree totaly for this...
Quote from: stanko on October 26, 2010, 09:42:40 PM
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go suicide cuz of that... mofo ::)
Quote from: Deavon on October 26, 2010, 09:44:12 PM
np give me also 1500 heal power and 2,5k casting speed and i m fine to raise the magic critical rate of mages .
You see the point of my comments? Or you became another ignorance person too ?
Also ,you cant tell me to dont write here since you opened a topic which includes my interests ,so i have to defend them with facts and not bullcraps like yours .
Just for your information ,you have already lost the topic battle since you self pointed that you have the propetly buffs you can defend fine vs any archer .
i dont have nothing to you, im just against all archers... as i see archers have only 1 defens "propetly" buff ::) i know how to buff... but even if u "propetly" buff dmg from archer's + ic+f is still lol... ps. and i dont lost topic battle thanos ;)
anyway its time go to work ... Vote, Vote guys ;) kktybb
STupid Poll! /Delete
@thanos and chup Danc of bladestorm give 99% resist agains bow/arrows but take 99% of matack
sooo for 15-20 seconds one mage pt can debuff one archer pt and later kill it in few seconds
and @kapi if you know tell here what gm need to nerf f.e - remove ic bows, add new buff (anti-arrows buff who will give resist agains bows/crossbows 75% and when u get hit by arrow incr to 100%) ?
Quote from: Deavon on October 27, 2010, 02:35:05 AM
Be objective if you wanna make a point and to dont get flamed as most of the times .
Those 2 buffs you talking about are not 2 but 3 at least if i DONT mention the kamael archer buffs resists .
The 3rd buff is dance !!! Suprise !!!
Now lets go with the effects : COP = - 30% critical damage
:
nerd ur joking right ? dance ? 15 sec and have 0 m att ?
QuoteNow lets go with the effects : COP = - 30% critical damage
Song of Windstorm =- 30% archer damage recieved
: Dance of Bladestorm = - 30% archer damage recieved .
TOTAL = -90% archer damage WITHOUT including the p.deffence and UD's .
"NOTICE" i repeat WITHOUT Kamael archer ressists "
bullshits! i d say u just wanna 2 shot ppl thats why ur trying so hard to prove archer isnt op
nothing to argue about with noobs who dont know how to buff themselves.
Use bladestorm and while in effect u made debuffs and cancel, after bladestorm ends u have ur m. attack back and can kill the archers, but the question is who play BD/SE (or any BD/Mage combo) atm?!? Just few people and most of time people r on dual box to have dances in party, if the party have an average player instead a bot would be way easier.
All people now can make retail of tank classes, so this can help against archers too, with the certification system there's a lot of options to build your char, u just need to test and see what fits better to ur char and playstyle.
People talking about nerf archers but the question isnt about ARCHER CLASS, isnt about most of archers, but just some people that have lots of equips (farmed or donated w/e), it's way better to ask for nerf instead to find a way to fight then.
Quote from: Weezer on October 27, 2010, 01:27:55 PM
Use bladestorm and while in effect u made debuffs and cancel, after bladestorm ends u have ur m. attack back and can kill the archers, but the question is who play BD/SE (or any BD/Mage combo) atm?!? Just few people and most of time people r on dual box to have dances in party, if the party have an average player instead a bot would be way easier.
All people now can make retail of tank classes, so this can help against archers too, with the certification system there's a lot of options to build your char, u just need to test and see what fits better to ur char and playstyle.
People talking about nerf archers but the question isnt about ARCHER CLASS, isnt about most of archers, but just some people that have lots of equips (farmed or donated w/e), it's way better to ask for nerf instead to find a way to fight then.
even iff he ve blade storm archers always kite . the problem is that some ppls just make too big dmg lol and 500 crt rate is kinda big while mages ve like 20-30% m.crt rate ..
any sh1t archer hit for 1k lets say while any good mage hit for 400
i ve 0 resist vs dark and voudas or lucif hit me for 430 while deathand hit me for 4k ( look on movie ) while i ve wind storm , elemental song , cop and dnet+6 with 300 holy + (as i remember thats his atribute )
funny part is that duelist spirit as i know dont work with duals but work with bow :D
make mages 100% m.crt rate and thats it lol ....
and nah is not QQtopic since most of archers hit me 2k max but few classes could be fixed or fix crt rate cuz now archerfs ve same atk.spd as mages c.spd xD
Quote from: lucifsg on October 27, 2010, 12:31:33 PM
bullshits! i d say u just wanna 2 shot ppl thats why ur trying so hard to prove archer isnt op
No i m just pointing out why this topic failed even before it started .
And once again ,i m talking with facts ,you DONT .
maciek, Go hit tank with archer and go hit tank with mage
Hit notank archer and notank mage
see the difference.
wc/bp bp/nec nec/notank - they are supportfull but very easy targets
Quote from: jygh on October 27, 2010, 01:55:03 PM
i ve 0 resist vs dark and voudas or lucif hit me for 430 while deathand hit me for 4k ( look on movie ) while i ve wind storm , elemental song , cop and dnet+6 with 300 holy + (as i remember thats his atribute )
you failed on failing tbh ,i dont have holy since months ,but good to know that you people making ur sets vs me (arrogance modexD)
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p.s : grow some balls and accept the damn war
Quote from: trooperXkoki on October 27, 2010, 02:00:24 PM
maciek, Go hit tank with archer and go hit tank with mage
Hit notank archer and notank mage
see the difference.
wc/bp bp/nec nec/notank - they are supportfull but very easy targets
go look his movie and see dmg on litleboy or smtihng like with dnet+ chuj wie how many or stormir aka paladins etc i bet they ve deflect arrow xD and dont tell me all who dont play archer duno how to buff cuz u know is bulsh1t baby
Quote from: Deavon on October 27, 2010, 02:02:08 PM
you failed on failing tbh ,i dont have holy since months ,but good to know that you people making ur sets vs me (arrogance modexD)
no i made holy cause of gandonport what crt me 8k xD and since u changed atribute then its even more funny cuz elemental song give resist vs all atribute except holy xD viana hit for 1.2k while u hit for 4 QQ
Quote from: jygh on October 27, 2010, 01:55:03 PM
even iff he ve blade storm archers always kite . the problem is that some ppls just make too big dmg lol and 500 crt rate is kinda big while mages ve like 20-30% m.crt rate ..
any sh1t archer hit for 1k lets say while any good mage hit for 400
i ve 0 resist vs dark and voudas or lucif hit me for 430 while deathand hit me for 4k ( look on movie ) while i ve wind storm , elemental song , cop and dnet+6 with 300 holy + (as i remember thats his atribute )
funny part is that duelist spirit as i know dont work with duals but work with bow :D
make mages 100% m.crt rate and thats it lol ....
and nah is not QQtopic since most of archers hit me 2k max but few classes could be fixed or fix crt rate cuz now archerfs ve same atk.spd as mages c.spd xD
Duelist Spirit - Temporarily increases dual-sword weapon Atk. Spd. and ordinary/skill attack damage when in PVP.
Attack speed only added with duals but the damage works for all weapons, remember that GL also can use Sword/Blunt Weapon, that's 1 of the key skills of the Archer/GL combo.
About Archers Kite there's some mages that have rly good speed (tattoo + dyes + buffs), some of they can reach some archers (not all ofc), but there's a problem in follow an archer, if u start with 10 people going to archer soon some will come back and others will keep following and after some time the archer(s) will come back killing 1 by 1. On normal pvp's isnt a good option to chase 1 or 2 archers, let then run and let's grouped with pt (mostly cause healers r bit slower cause of setup of dyes and wont have the same speed of the mage runners), but on sieges is more about the field, so u chase till siege zone and then come back.
Quote from: jygh on October 27, 2010, 02:03:30 PM
xD viana hit for 1.2k while u hit for 4 QQ
Ye make sense what you talking about ,since me and viana got the same char >.>
Just for your information ,we got at least 4k p.atack difference plus 2 skills which adding +30% at least critical damage on pvp .
Stop creating polls/topics, kapibar and
Quote from: stanko on October 26, 2010, 09:42:40 PM
go scam more signatures
Buy DNET robe set
Use CoP & Windstorm
Don't use zerks
You'll be fine.
Quote from: Deavon on October 27, 2010, 01:57:36 PM
No i m just pointing out why this topic failed even before it started .
And once again ,i m talking with facts ,you DONT .
thoose are the facts we can test ingame any time .
Quote from: jygh on October 27, 2010, 01:55:03 PM
even iff he ve blade storm archers always kite . the problem is that some ppls just make too big dmg lol and 500 crt rate is kinda big while mages ve like 20-30% m.crt rate ..
any sh1t archer hit for 1k lets say while any good mage hit for 400
i ve 0 resist vs dark and voudas or lucif hit me for 430 while deathand hit me for 4k ( look on movie ) while i ve wind storm , elemental song , cop and dnet+6 with 300 holy + (as i remember thats his atribute )
funny part is that duelist spirit as i know dont work with duals but work with bow :D
make mages 100% m.crt rate and thats it lol ....
and nah is not QQtopic since most of archers hit me 2k max but few classes could be fixed or fix crt rate cuz now archerfs ve same atk.spd as mages c.spd xD
mages hit for 400 dmg on target without resist attribute and archers 3-4k with 500 crit rate . +1 to jin
the problem is not the archer is the bow and all the custom things than our dears gm make. for a more balance server there is only 1 way, make the items like should be no more custom items, for example custom frintezza ( many many more better stats than should be), custom bow ( much more faster like should be, custom dnet sets) well all this custom items make this server unbalanced
Quote from: Ashlynn on October 27, 2010, 03:33:24 PM
Stop creating polls/topics, kapibar and
cry me a river mofo ;)
Quote from: thehunted on October 27, 2010, 04:15:00 PM
Buy DNET robe set
Use CoP & Windstorm
Don't use zerks
You'll be fine.
dnet +6 full atr.. cop & windstorm i never use zerk.. and they still can crit 3-4-5k every 2 hit.. ::) i mean ... they still hit hard... and mages hit still low ... :-X wanna balance it ? give mages crit every 2hit... ::) ( same crit like archers ) ^^
Quote from: Deavon on October 26, 2010, 09:44:12 PM
np give me also 1500 heal power and 2,5k casting speed and i m fine to raise the magic critical rate of mages .
The funny part is mage with 2,5k casting heal ownself 3 times (1600+ heal) in same time when archers hit them 2x for 2-3k :D
or archers are hitting faster than mages can heal...
And stop talk bullsh1t about learn how to buff ownself because all ppl use all buff (cov,cop,windstorm,gr shield,earth) vs archers LOL
i remember when NECROs was OP and Chipuls was SAYING LEARN TO BUFF
SOOO I SAY U THE SAME >>> LEARN TO BUFF <<< AND STFUUU i REMEMBER OLD TOPICS
First of all....
Att system is way too bugged for archers cause with resist buff u only increase the resist for magic atacks and not for phisical atks (and it is increased LOL)
if u are pvping archers and if u buff yourself with divine&elemental prot and elemental song if the archer have wind/eart att on his bow it will hit u even more than w/o that buffs (the same for holy). And then if u dont have that resist buff any mage can come and kill u with 4 hits cause of the att on their weapons.
For me the only thing it could be done is make the song of windstorm like the other songs (2 or more mins dont remember insted of less than 2 min) and maybe some boost on cop or other buff...
Deavon i know which att u are using ;D
Quote from: Gonzal on October 27, 2010, 06:28:17 PM
Deavon i know which att u are using ;D
You know shit , i actually got 4 different bows with 4 different elements so go figure what i use every time :D
Quote from: Deavon on October 27, 2010, 06:34:03 PM
You know shit , i actually got 4 different bows with 4 different elements so go figure what i use every time :D
not all with duel might and +10 xD
Quote from: Gonzal on October 27, 2010, 06:35:04 PM
not all with duel might and +10 xD
guess again !!! :D
Lol u own a multinational or a bank? :o
Quote from: Gonzal on October 27, 2010, 06:40:00 PM
Lol u own a multinational or a bank? :o
Or maybe i m just messing with your head :D I guess we will never know :D
Quote from: Gonzal on October 27, 2010, 06:28:17 PM
First of all....
Att system is way too bugged for archers cause with resist buff u only increase the resist for magic atacks and not for phisical atks (and it is increased LOL)
if u are pvping archers and if u buff yourself with divine&elemental prot and elemental song if the archer have wind/eart att on his bow it will hit u even more than w/o that buffs (the same for holy). And then if u dont have that resist buff any mage can come and kill u with 4 hits cause of the att on their weapons.
For me the only thing it could be done is make the song of windstorm like the other songs (2 or more mins dont remember insted of less than 2 min) and maybe some boost on cop or other buff...
Deavon i know which att u are using ;D
every1 know it ;D ^^
Quote from: Deavon on October 27, 2010, 06:41:55 PM
Or maybe i m just messing with your head :D I guess we will never know :D
i have thanos's account infos and he rly has 4x bow whit duel might !! ;D ;D
Quote from: Tabbox on October 27, 2010, 09:01:31 PM
i have thanos's account infos and he rly has 4x bow whit duel might !! ;D ;D
you see he have also 4 sets i just check
It's funny that u cry'bout archers in the chronicle with more bow resist buffs. Btw, did u know that Berserker Spirit is not a proper buff for pvp? did u know that there's a potion which increases ur P.Def? did u know that this is L2 and u've got to use ur brain aswell?
Quote from: Sephiroth on October 27, 2010, 09:25:03 PM
It's funny that u cry'bout archers in the chronicle with more bow resist buffs. Btw, did u know that Berserker Spirit is not a proper buff for pvp? did u know that there's a potion which increases ur P.Def? did u know that this is L2 and u've got to use ur brain aswell?
u dont play since 1 year so how can u know wtf is going on with archers atm ? :D and is not about all archers . is about few classes to be nerfed
I've been playing in other servers and mages were always crying'bout archers even when their dmg sucked hard, and here it seems the same story. There is just one archer class which actually is able to do a really nice dmg, the rest shouldn't be such a problem to start qqing. And that class shouldn't be nerfed anyway. It's all'bout atributes!
Quote from: DareDevil on October 27, 2010, 06:26:47 PM
i remember when NECROs was OP and Chipuls was SAYING LEARN TO BUFF
SOOO I SAY U THE SAME >>> LEARN TO BUFF <<< AND STFUUU i REMEMBER OLD TOPICS
iremember it but it was true, when i hit good arhers for 3-4k i hit you for 10k but only fro mcrit i got crit one on 7-8 hits with valakasa +wm lev 10 ect, and i make test with misiek3 and on divine,uncholy,aligment i hit him for 8002k from crit, so you don't get well buff, but now when full bufet mage archer hit for 2k+ it is not my buff fail because i got all resist on archer, you can make this test now what dmg i got on ful lresists o narcher ?
remember ic bow and frint got bosted by track whe nmages was o/p but now archers are too o/p when atr system got fixed and now they should lost this bonus or just bost mages !
Quote from: chlipus on October 27, 2010, 10:26:56 PM
iremember it but it was true, when i hit good arhers for 3-4k i hit you for 10k but only fro mcrit i got crit one on 7-8 hits with valakasa +wm lev 10 ect, and i make test with misiek3 and on divine,uncholy,aligment i hit him for 8002k from crit, so you don't get well buff, but now when full bufet mage archer hit for 2k+ it is not my buff fail because i got all resist on archer, you can make this test now what dmg i got on ful lresists o narcher ?
remember ic bow and frint got bosted by track whe nmages was o/p but now archers are too o/p when atr system got fixed and now they should lost this bonus or just bost mages !
aha 10k my ass, dont write me fable here ... 3-4k goood for " U " now if they hit u 3-4K seems smth wrong?? ? ?tbh i was hitting u for 1.7K if u are with full buff + W/O PET ~~~~ TAKE BUFFS AND PET OTHER TIME ...
mr. COK BILMIS
sry for bad english ~
instead of improve ur l2 ability in pvp u just make a shitload of QQ topic about oly,archers,and every kind of shit that u cant kill
i like potatoes
nice QQ topic ;D ;D
I would like to know if some1 thinks that nerf entusiast will win this poll. HOW ? if most of ppl at nm already play/rerolled on archer
Quote from: Locus on October 28, 2010, 03:09:42 PM
I would like to know if some1 thinks that nerf entusiast will win this poll. HOW ? if most of ppl at nm already play/rerolled on archer
next nerf all gonna reroll to mage :) like always
Quote from: GN on October 28, 2010, 04:28:10 PM
prolly server need some new nerf.
choose your best 2010/2011 nerf :
1. cut m crit rates to 0,5 % , pvp dmg -80% cast speed + 2000
2. archer range to 600 and speed capped to 178
3. dagger stabs working only with dony daggers
4. ally/clan liders can be only italians
best
or
1. remove bonus boost from frintezza(who got implemented when mages was o/p)
2. remove atak speed boost from ic bow (wwho got implemented when mages was o/p)
3. bring back mages crit rate from magica lhits (crit rate from magic atacks got totally fuce kup, on gracia we have crit rate 20% but magics crits = 10x normal hit here is: if mage hit for 800 magic crit is 1,8k-2k+ once on 7-9 hits )
only this
I dont have problems to archers max i see critical archer in my char is 3k, but depends wath archer hit me, yesterday Vianna/Arha/Charlie and LoveRockets hit me around 1.2k-2.2k critical... And im not tanker class, im just a SPS/SWS n44b.
In my opinion if need change something here put IC Bow slow like in oficial.
Srry for english
Quote from: chlipus on October 28, 2010, 05:12:45 PM
best
or
1. remove bonus boost from frintezza(who got implemented when mages was o/p)
2. remove atak speed boost from ic bow (wwho got implemented when mages was o/p)
3. bring back mages crit rate from magica lhits (crit rate from magic atacks got totally fuce kup, on gracia we have crit rate 20% but magics crits = 10x normal hit here is: if mage hit for 800 magic crit is 1,8k-2k+ once on 7-9 hits )
only this
lol u wanna smth more? imo u have missed improve matck 15k and cast to 4k
u prove that u wanna nerf archer just for ur own business cuz u cant kill a shit atm so u QQ on forum and saying bullshit about both side mages,archers
Someone to lock this lol topic please .
ppl dont use spam topics any more QQ
Quote from: Tabbox on October 28, 2010, 05:55:11 PM
lol u wanna smth more? imo u have missed improve matck 15k and cast to 4k
u prove that u wanna nerf archer just for ur own business cuz u cant kill a shit atm so u QQ on forum and saying bullshit about both side mages,archers
nah, i remember when i wrote about bugget atr and about m crits in gracia
and what i saw?
- stop QQ, lol post, learn how to buff and etc
Quote from: danyelfBR on October 28, 2010, 05:32:52 PM
I dont have problems to archers max i see critical archer in my char is 3k, but depends wath archer hit me, yesterday Vianna/Arha/Charlie and LoveRockets hit me around 1.2k-2.2k critical... And im not tanker class, im just a SPS/SWS n44b.
In my opinion if need change something here put IC Bow slow like in oficial.
Srry for english
i want it too
50% tank defect arrov 2 lev pasive skils on shield?
Quote from: Deavon on October 28, 2010, 06:10:36 PM
Someone to lock this lol topic please .
Quote from: Evolution on October 26, 2010, 08:31:52 PM
Yes or No ... without WC/SWS u can't even start pvp with archer + IC ... even if u will get 3k+ p def 0.0 don't spam just "VOTE" kktybb[/color]
Quote from: chlipus on October 28, 2010, 07:07:11 PM
i want it too
50% tank defect arrov 2 lev pasive skils on shield?
Deflect Arrow lvl 2 - Temporaly increases defense against bow attacks (Active Skill)
Quote from: danyelfBR on October 28, 2010, 07:32:07 PM
Deflect Arrow lvl 2 - Temporaly increases defense against bow attacks (Active Skill)
evry one know defect arrow is activ i mean defect arrov and pasive skils o nshield
Quote from: chlipus on October 28, 2010, 07:34:37 PM
evry one know defect arrow is activ i mean defect arrov and pasive skils o nshield
Hm its i dont know...
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Kinda interesting that on nm ppl cry about OP archers , when on dragon ppl cry about OP mages .
U guys should meet each other.
Learn to buff and use attributes...archers are fine! KKTYBB
Which reminds me "Dear God, please nerf rock. Paper is ok. Yours truthfully, scissors"
damn nightmare has less population than dragon, but qq topics are like 10x moar. I wanna play here.
Jedi don't use bow
before last update it was ok, now its fvcked up. giving +30% atk speed to archers is fvcking insane.
Quote from: TonyS on October 29, 2010, 12:15:40 AM
before last update it was ok, now its fvcked up. giving +30% atk speed to archers is fvcking insane.
Its a certification which half of them wont even use...because it sucks...
Quote from: TonyS on October 29, 2010, 12:15:40 AM
before last update it was ok, now its fvcked up. giving +30% atk speed to archers is fvcking insane.
now is op
Quote from: felo41 on October 28, 2010, 09:27:05 PM
Kinda interesting that on nm ppl cry about OP archers , when on dragon ppl cry about OP mages .
U guys should meet each other.
when on dragon ppl cry abaut o/p mages ? this is nightmare (freaking test server) evry king of shit is first implemented here, and it is normal ppl cry because they want more ballance class on server that,s why now ppl cry abaut o/p archers !
lets talk sirius....
U ARE ALL freakING DOGS OF DRAKE!!!!
c3 (at start of sub) drake say he/pp or he/th was op all make this char later drake say pp/necro is op u all make pp/necro later ty/des --> ol/ee--->daggers--->des/pal--->tyr/pal-->etc and ofc archer/....and sps/ee stay overpower
now after "fix" of mutant we will see again the same as in past he/pal vs sps/ee 2 allrdy overpower class
u speak about this class??????
what hapen with class like glade????des????ol????ty????? where is subs of sk, tk, summoners elf/dark elf, warlord????
balance must be betwen sps/ee+he/pal and all other class
Quote from: Infernous on October 29, 2010, 12:30:13 AM
Its a certification which half of them wont even use...because it sucks...
Maybe on Nightmare, if you wanna tell me Dragon players wont use certifications - log and visit pagan temple, its full of ppl who lvling retails. +30% atk speed is sucks? so idk what skill for you may be "good", Instant Kill lvl10, mp cost: 0, 95% landing?
Quote from: HEMO on October 29, 2010, 09:37:02 AM
U ARE ALL freakING DOGS OF DRAKE!!!!
Dogs are so cute !
Continue with the spam ::)
Fix att system ;D
Quote from: Evolution on October 26, 2010, 09:36:28 PM
look who write it ^^ i just w8 for ur blame answer... :P 1st. i got sws/wc 2nd. not every1 have it. ::) nothing OP? so just make mages same crit like Archers ::) its look smhting like this...
Archer:
350dmg -> 4000dmg -> 5000dmg -> 3500dmg -> 350dmg -> 5000dmg -> 6000dmg
Mage:
400dmg -> 500dmg! -> 350dmg -> 400dmg -> 3500dmg!!! (wow) -> 350dmg
anyway archer is op on many way's not just on crit... ::) ps. Archers i write it again... dont spam here just Vote! peace ;)
Oke, but lets make archers a.speed around 2k like casting speed of any xx/ee :o
Quote from: a5h on October 29, 2010, 07:00:39 PM
Oke, but lets make archers a.speed around 2k like casting speed of any xx/ee :o
and give them instant heal also :D
Quote from: VforVanilla on October 29, 2010, 07:19:30 PM
and give them instant heal also :D
And give them illimited mana also :D and even with it .... the poor lame mago is down
qq lamers, archers hit with ic bow like a machine gun lol... and they got 8/10 crit rate lol ... min crit is 2k-3k ? lul i dont say max 0.0 just n/c think what u write ::)
anyway check mage crit with valky even with augu passiv lvl9/10 lol... ::)
Gaimardi is editted!
Boost daggers btw, they are uselss atm ;D
Quote from: Evolution on October 29, 2010, 08:17:02 PM
anyway check mage crit with valky even with augu passiv lvl9/10 lol... ::)
Say thanks that they didn't made your magic critical 3x damage from 4x cause Gms likes to use Gracia feautures :D
Quote from: FeelmyBow on October 29, 2010, 10:51:01 PM
Gaimardi is editted!
Boost daggers btw, they are uselss atm ;D
daggers no need more boost, other class too
Nerf archer, dagger and mage like hell !!! It's the way to go
Quote from: Wizjoner on October 30, 2010, 12:12:17 AM
daggers no need more boost, other class too
What you mean ;o, Daggers need way more power.
If we gonna nerf something, it should be atk speed of Icarus bow and "cancel" rate of mages.
Quote from: FeelmyBow on October 30, 2010, 10:48:49 AM
What you mean ;o, Daggers need way more power.
He is fighting only with mobs and ppl in A grades w/o elemental resists so don't consider his post as a constructive one ;)
Quote from: FeelmyBow on October 29, 2010, 10:51:01 PM
Gaimardi is editted!
Boost daggers btw, they are uselss atm ;D
QQ mofo
Quote from: Blizzer on October 30, 2010, 11:33:05 AM
He is fighting only with mobs and ppl in A grades w/o elemental resists so don't consider his post as a constructive one ;)
Ur mother is considered as ppl in A grade or w/o elemental resists or both ?
Quote from: __Metallica__ on October 30, 2010, 11:31:26 AM
If we gonna nerf something, it should be atk speed of Icarus bow and "cancel" rate of mages.
and frintezza xD
Quote from: Blizzer on October 30, 2010, 11:33:05 AM
He is fighting only with mobs and ppl in A grades w/o elemental resists so don't consider his post as a constructive one ;)
i never seen u outside city !
jesli lubiewodke mozna nazwac noobem to masz racje (innych nie pamietam)
w przeciwienstwie do ciebie nie potrzebyje specialnej postaci pod pvp & siege
ps : nastepny post z twojej strony bedzie ignorowany (twoje posty polegaja tylko na ,,przygryzaniu'' innym <hobby?>)
ps2 : nowy kolega cie nie polubil :P
Quote from: Blizzer on October 30, 2010, 11:33:05 AM
He is fighting only with mobs and ppl in A grades w/o elemental resists so don't consider his post as a constructive one ;)
That was ment for me? ;o
Quote from: Blizzer on October 30, 2010, 11:33:05 AM
He is fighting only with mobs and ppl in A grades w/o elemental resists so don't consider his post as a constructive one ;)
Watch his last movie * ( it doesn t mean watch his last movie and see how SKILLED he is )
Quote from: FeelmyBow on October 30, 2010, 08:43:52 PM
That was ment for me? ;o
nope, to Wizjoner
Quote from: Wizjoner on October 30, 2010, 07:40:44 PM
i never seen u outside city !
jesli lubiewodke mozna nazwac noobem to masz racje (innych nie pamietam)
w przeciwienstwie do ciebie nie potrzebyje specialnej postaci pod pvp & siege
ps : nastepny post z twojej strony bedzie ignorowany (twoje posty polegaja tylko na ,,przygryzaniu'' innym <hobby?>)
ps2 : nowy kolega cie nie polubil :P
I'm not visiting 60 lvl areas, that explains everything.
A moja specjalna postać pod pvp, siege, oly to TH/DA ;)
Quote from: DogsAreSoCute on October 30, 2010, 11:12:14 PM
Watch his last movie * ( it doesn t mean watch his last movie and see how SKILLED he is )
Damn, i almost got a compliment XD then i read it again and saw "it doesnt mean". ;D
Nerf archers, mages, glads and tyrants !!! Yeah !
And then we will see all chars and classes in action ! :D
Quote from: FeelmyBow on October 31, 2010, 08:52:30 AM
Damn, i almost got a compliment XD then i read it again and saw "it doesnt mean". ;D
DaggerRappingBiatch- ::)
Quote from: Blizzer on October 30, 2010, 11:19:06 PM
nope, to WizjonerI'm not visiting 60 lvl areas, that explains everything.
A moja specjalna postać pod pvp, siege, oly to TH/DA ;)
sam mi kiedys pisales ze masz lucznika pod siege
czyzbys zaprzeczal wlasnym slowom?
niestety, nie mam jak tego udowodnic (nie jestem na tyle ,,zmaniaczony'' zeby robic screeny z kazdej rozmowy, sory)
Mam dostęp do ok. 30 postaci, łucznicy też są w tym gronie, więc nie zaprzeczę. A to, że gram głÃ³wnie jedną postacią to już inna bajka 8)
Sorry for polluting this wonderful cry topic with beautiful Polish language, I promise not to do this anymore ;D
archers doesnt need nerf ... if u buff urself properly u wont get more dmg than 2k ...
the poll is tied :D
nerf dwarfs !!! :P
Quote from: qwertyzxc on November 03, 2010, 02:37:08 PM
nerf dwarfs !!! :P
They rule in olly!!! they spoil my pony and get ic bow parts!!
I still want more power on my dagger char >:(
Quote from: scary on November 02, 2010, 07:20:19 PM
archers doesnt need nerf ... if u buff urself properly u wont get more dmg than 2k ...
you are wrong.
Quote from: TonyS on November 04, 2010, 01:01:30 PM
you are wrong.
there are some mages , who u cant make even 2k... (they are not tank) , but most of them are lamers and cant buff themself properly..
Archers are damage dealers whats wrong with that??? I think that better than nerf archers give more power to tanks (its been ages since last time i see a dark avenger, elven knigth or shillen knigth and that was nice chars to play and see) to fo trough massive damage of the archers
Quote from: scary on November 04, 2010, 01:16:03 PM
there are some mages , who u cant make even 2k... (they are not tank) , but most of them are lamers and cant buff themself properly..
2k with 50% crit rate and 2k atk speed?
Quote from: scary on November 04, 2010, 01:16:03 PM
there are some mages , who u cant make even 2k... (they are not tank) , but most of them are lamers and cant buff themself properly..
is not like before :P now archers ve 2k atk.spd xD and nah i dont cry but some combo's deserve a nerf :P
Quote from: TonyS on November 04, 2010, 01:53:28 PM
2k with 50% crit rate and 2k atk speed?
exactly
Quote from: jygh on November 04, 2010, 03:33:02 PM
is not like before :P now archers ve 2k atk.spd xD and nah i dont cry but some combo's deserve a nerf :P
im talking for now , what u want ? archers to be same like spoiler ? , take it , archers is best since c3 .....archers got nerfed like 5-6 times or more, and u still want nerfs ? ;D
archers whit 2k atck speed? :O dont say bull shits
if u use a monk tattoes are u a damn fail archer..human archers have max 1,2-1,3k atck speed and if u have haste on certification skill u reach max 1,7k.
Quote from: Tabbox on November 04, 2010, 04:29:41 PM
archers whit 2k atck speed? :O dont say bull shits
if u use a monk tattoes are u a damn fail archer..human archers have max 1,2-1,3k atck speed and if u have haste on certification skill u reach max 1,7k.
ye 1.2 thats why pol44czek hit like kurwa machinegun xD tho his dmg sux xD
Quote from: jygh on November 04, 2010, 04:31:09 PM
ye 1.2 thats why pol44czek hit like kurwa machinegun xD tho his dmg sux xD
bad subject..indeed his dmg sux
Quote from: Tabbox on November 04, 2010, 04:29:41 PM
archers whit 2k atck speed? :O dont say bull shits
if u use a monk tattoes are u a damn fail archer..human archers have max 1,2-1,3k atck speed and if u have haste on certification skill u reach max 1,7k.
and you never heard about silver ranger? anyway you are just wanna-be-pro archer so its normal you dont want be nerfed. kkthxbb
Quote from: TonyS on November 04, 2010, 04:46:47 PM
and you never heard about silver ranger? anyway you are just wanna-be-pro archer so its normal you dont want be nerfed. kkthxbb
So do u, cause some SR's can get 2.7k attack speed with attack speed setup, but they will make low damage.
Archers classes need to choose between attack speed or p. attack, they only can choose both on dyes setups, but this means -9 CON, they will have low HP/CP and low chance to resist stun, don't forget that not all people have Antharas.
The question isnt about archers, but SOME archers that can make insane damage, even if person is buffed properly (we all know that learn to buff yourself is just an excuse, mages also said that when people was asking for nerf mages).
But those archers farmed a lot for it, and made right setup for their chars (sub combo + equips + attribute system + certification skills + know what skills to use in what time), against some archer even playing with as Mage/Tank i get rly high damage, but against most of then i can't complain about that. In some sieges i got hit from archers for 150 damage (just buffs, no UD) just few of then can make more than 1k damage, problem isnt archers but let's say just SOME archers... ;)
Quote from: TonyS on November 04, 2010, 04:46:47 PM
and you never heard about silver ranger? anyway you are just wanna-be-pro archer so its normal you dont want be nerfed. kkthxbb
and who the fuk are u? lol
as wezer said archers can choose betwen atck speed or patck,u can be a machinegun but hitting low or u can be a damn archer who makes cry ppl like u that doesnt know any sh1t about l2 knowledge.
kktybb
Quote from: Tabbox on November 04, 2010, 06:25:42 PM
and who the fuk are u? lol
as wezer said archers can choose betwen atck speed or patck,u can be a machinegun but hitting low or u can be a damn archer who makes cry ppl like u that doesnt know any sh1t about l2 knowledge.
kktybb
hahahahaha you made my day!! :D
Dragon-Netowork child thinks that this bugged like shit, silly server with custom-everything is any base of L2-knowledge? So tell me WannaBe-Smart-Guy what on Dragon-Network work as it should? Skills? Atributes? Locations?
Warlist bugged after every restart, skill enchant routes bugged, even FVCKING PMs are bugged, I cant destroy wall on siege w/o disconection 90ppl from ally, if enemy use some transformation on PVP it disconecting half of my party, gehenna-like skills dealing 50dmg/second, some dude on Nightmare burned wepon from 0 to +1 and you want to tell that you know something about this game because you playing here?? Machine-gun archers are insane as sps/ee with unlimited mana, trance landing 1/10 in warriors with mental shield, valakass and big m.def - only idiot like you could say that those things are NORMAL.
when DN will be finally full-hellbound? how long we got this chronicle here? and we ain’t even a third of the way through.
read my post again and tell me when i say it is normal lol
i just say that archers can be a machinegun whit low patck..
i agree whit u about when u say that in DN 80% of things are bugged or missing but dont say bullshit about archers
Quote from: TonyS on November 04, 2010, 10:26:29 PM
hahahahaha you made my day!! :D
Dragon-Netowork child thinks that this bugged like shit, silly server with custom-everything is any base of L2-knowledge? So tell me WannaBe-Smart-Guy what on Dragon-Network work as it should? Skills? Atributes? Locations?
Warlist bugged after every restart, skill enchant routes bugged, even FVCKING PMs are bugged, I cant destroy wall on siege w/o disconection 90ppl from ally, if enemy use some transformation on PVP it disconecting half of my party, gehenna-like skills dealing 50dmg/second, some dude on Nightmare burned wepon from 0 to +1 and you want to tell that you know something about this game because you playing here?? Machine-gun archers are insane as sps/ee with unlimited mana, trance landing 1/10 in warriors with mental shield, valakass and big m.def - only idiot like you could say that those things are NORMAL.
when DN will be finally full-hellbound? how long we got this chronicle here? and we ain’t even a third of the way through.
it is not about knowing how it SHOULD work. it is about knowing how it IS working right now, and how to use it to your advantage.
Quote from: Ashlynn on November 05, 2010, 12:31:58 PM
it is not about knowing how it SHOULD work. it is about knowing how it IS working right now, and how to use it to your advantage.
ahh so power of class on DragonNetwork is based only on GMs mood and all should accept that.
Thanks, now i understand!
Quote from: TonyS on November 05, 2010, 12:38:53 PM
ahh so power of class on DragonNetwork is based only on GMs mood and all should accept that.
Thanks, now i understand!
well, what else can you do about it than adapting? :)
Quote from: Tabbox on November 04, 2010, 04:29:41 PM
archers whit 2k atck speed? :O dont say bull shits
if u use a monk tattoes are u a damn fail archer..human archers have max 1,2-1,3k atck speed and if u have haste on certification skill u reach max 1,7k.
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/2395/shot00109x.png any question?
Quote from: chlipus on November 05, 2010, 01:02:02 PM
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/2395/shot00109x.png any question?
check patck lol...
nice skills bar too ::)
max attack speed shoud be 1,5k max as on official (c. speed 2k)
Quote from: chlipus on November 05, 2010, 01:02:02 PM
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/2395/shot00109x.png any question?
Berserker- Only an idiot would use it for pvp
HS Flu- The same
And u've got to have in mind that not every party has a SR.And at last but not least that P.Atack suck hard.
Quote from: chlipus on November 05, 2010, 01:02:02 PM
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/2395/shot00109x.png any question?
;D ps. Archers are not OP! :D
Quote from: chlipus on November 05, 2010, 01:02:02 PM
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/2395/shot00109x.png any question?
Now a lot things making sense to be honest , i knew you guys were idiots but not that much .
Ah ah where is Furesy now to back me up with his throeries of "Archers are all about p.atack and not attack speed" .
Anyway now i understand why you hit me max for 1k and i hit you once or twice for 6-8k each .
p.s : CP clicker wont help you with those idiotic stats .
Quote from: scary on November 04, 2010, 03:58:44 PM
exactly
im talking for now , what u want ? archers to be same like spoiler ? , take it , archers is best since c3 .....archers got nerfed like 5-6 times or more, and u still want nerfs ? ;D
For me no need nerf archers in nothing, and if archers is the best since C3 and got nerfs 5-6 times, archers dont need IC Bow Normal, just put IC bow slow like oficial so simple...
And dont need this...
Frintezza necklace update boost:
increases mp by 42.
increases sleep/paralysis/shock resistance by 15%.
increases sleep/paralysis/shock attack probability by 15%.
increases poison/bleeding resistance by 25%.
increases poison/bleeding attack probability by 25%.
Decreases reuse delay.
Increase damage shield effect.
Increases Dark-Attribute Effect.
New bonuses added:
Dark resist +15
+200 patack
+200 crit. dmg.
+5 acuracy
+500 HP
What about other classes using frintezza?
Quote from: raymax on November 05, 2010, 05:23:19 PM
What about other classes using frintezza?
Hm iMotion in my opinion dont need edited jewell for fighters, but have it on server and happens, in my opinion about archers OP in this moment not about certifications or somthing like this, just cause have a bow normal speed and have a tezza, and i think valakas is enought for fighters like is enought for mages... Some time ago in server no exist tezza edited, just a Bow normal speed and is enought for all, now have bow and jewells for fighters. But ok for me if just put IC Bow slow is enought for all in my opinion.
Srry for english...
Quote from: danyelfBR on November 05, 2010, 06:24:13 PM
Hm iMotion in my opinion dont need edited jewell for fighters, but have it on server and happens, in my opinion about archers OP in this moment not about certifications or somthing like this, just cause have a bow normal speed and have a tezza, and i think valakas is enought for fighters like is enought for mages... Some time ago in server no exist tezza edited, just a Bow normal speed and is enought for all, now have bow and jewells for fighters. But ok for me if just put IC Bow slow is enought for all in my opinion.
Srry for english...
no dani, problem are atributs on bow :D
Quote from: trooperXkoki on November 05, 2010, 06:31:28 PM
no dani, problem are atributs on bow :D
Att for me not a problem i dont received monster hits from better archers from server, but i know i have deflect arrow and good p def, but i received 4-5 criticals hits followed... And its is cause this fck normal speed from this bugued bow XD.... i think :P
Quote from: danyelfBR on November 05, 2010, 05:18:40 PM
For me no need nerf archers in nothing, and if archers is the best since C3 and got nerfs 5-6 times, archers dont need IC Bow Normal, just put IC bow slow like oficial so simple...
And dont need this...
Frintezza necklace update boost:
increases mp by 42.
increases sleep/paralysis/shock resistance by 15%.
increases sleep/paralysis/shock attack probability by 15%.
increases poison/bleeding resistance by 25%.
increases poison/bleeding attack probability by 25%.
Decreases reuse delay.
Increase damage shield effect.
Increases Dark-Attribute Effect.
New bonuses added:
Dark resist +15
+200 patack
+200 crit. dmg.
+5 acuracy
+500 HP
i don't need nerf archers, i wont only this
Just remember when people cried about IC normal speed Track/Drake changed IC mage weapons to have a bonus on reuse delay.
When people was asking to nerf bow instead of that ic mage weapons was boosted, and then people stopped crying about ic bow, and now people again crying about archers, let's think a bit:
1 - mages cry about ic bow normal speed
2 - track boost ic mage weapons
3 - mages stop crying about ic bow
4 - we got attribute system (working or not we have it)
5 - all start crying about bugged attribute system
6 - we got certification system (working or not we have it)
7 - all start crying about bugged certification system
Problem isn't bow, problem is attribute system and/or certification system, but instead of working to find out how those things work people preffer to cry on forum.
We all know that certification system need some fixes cause rate of skills r too high, but instead of asking to make certification work as it should we spend our time on topics to nerf other class... i suggest archers to start topic to nerf tanks, tanks make tops to nerf daggers, and lets to all ask to nerf all other classes... :D
Quote from: Weezer on November 05, 2010, 07:36:57 PM
Just remember when people cried about IC normal speed Track/Drake changed IC mage weapons to have a bonus on reuse delay.
When people was asking to nerf bow instead of that ic mage weapons was boosted, and then people stopped crying about ic bow, and now people again crying about archers, let's think a bit:
1 - mages cry about ic bow normal speed
2 - track boost ic mage weapons
3 - mages stop crying about ic bow
4 - we got attribute system (working or not we have it)
5 - all start crying about bugged attribute system
6 - we got certification system (working or not we have it)
7 - all start crying about bugged certification system
Problem isn't bow, problem is attribute system and/or certification system, but instead of working to find out how those things work people preffer to cry on forum.
We all know that certification system need some fixes cause rate of skills r too high, but instead of asking to make certification work as it should we spend our time on topics to nerf other class... i suggest archers to start topic to nerf tanks, tanks make tops to nerf daggers, and lets to all ask to nerf all other classes... :D
Ok... XD
Quote from: Weezer on November 05, 2010, 07:36:57 PM
Just remember when people cried about IC normal speed Track/Drake changed IC mage weapons to have a bonus on reuse delay.
When people was asking to nerf bow instead of that ic mage weapons was boosted, and then people stopped crying about ic bow, and now people again crying about archers, let's think a bit:
5% delay that u cant even see and the difference u see at icarus/draco is kinda like 50% faster reuse:P
Quote from: Weezer on November 05, 2010, 07:36:57 PM
Just remember when people cried about IC normal speed Track/Drake changed IC mage weapons to have a bonus on reuse delay.
When people was asking to nerf bow instead of that ic mage weapons was boosted, and then people stopped crying about ic bow, and now people again crying about archers, let's think a bit:
1 - mages cry about ic bow normal speed
2 - track boost ic mage weapons
3 - mages stop crying about ic bow
4 - we got attribute system (working or not we have it)
5 - all start crying about bugged attribute system
6 - we got certification system (working or not we have it)
7 - all start crying about bugged certification system
Problem isn't bow, problem is attribute system and/or certification system, but instead of working to find out how those things work people preffer to cry on forum.
We all know that certification system need some fixes cause rate of skills r too high, but instead of asking to make certification work as it should we spend our time on topics to nerf other class... i suggest archers to start topic to nerf tanks, tanks make tops to nerf daggers, and lets to all ask to nerf all other classes... :D
ic mage weapon don't give any bonuses ! it was removed when mages was o/p
remove atribute system
Quote from: Pawciu on November 05, 2010, 09:06:59 PM
remove atribute system
better wipe server and upload interlude.
Quote from: Weezer on November 05, 2010, 07:36:57 PM
Just remember when people cried about IC normal speed Track/Drake changed IC mage weapons to have a bonus on reuse delay.
When people was asking to nerf bow instead of that ic mage weapons was boosted, and then people stopped crying about ic bow, and now people again crying about archers, let's think a bit:
1 - mages cry about ic bow normal speed
2 - track boost ic mage weapons
3 - mages stop crying about ic bow
4 - we got attribute system (working or not we have it)
5 - all start crying about bugged attribute system
6 - we got certification system (working or not we have it)
7 - all start crying about bugged certification system
Problem isn't bow, problem is attribute system and/or certification system, but instead of working to find out how those things work people preffer to cry on forum.
We all know that certification system need some fixes cause rate of skills r too high, but instead of asking to make certification work as it should we spend our time on topics to nerf other class... i suggest archers to start topic to nerf tanks, tanks make tops to nerf daggers, and lets to all ask to nerf all other classes... :D
Seriously Weezer ? You want compare 5% of REUSE boost with their atak speed ?
And daniel dont say that archers dont hit hard, remember that you got your deflect arrow, test dmg with it and without... on my pp/bd dmg was decresed with if from 2.5k till 1.8, so...
Fix the atribute system!
"learn how to buff", and archers wont be o/p for you.
Quote from: Triuferkkk on November 08, 2010, 10:17:28 AM
"learn how to buff", and archers wont be o/p for you.
the problem comes when u fight mages and archers at the same time... when u fight only fighters is easy how to buff but when mages come u dont have the right buffs...
some day attributes will be fixed and the resist buffs will work against mage and physical ataks... when that day comes it will be the end of QQ archers OP QQ and they will cry more than mages
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Quote from: Gonzal on November 09, 2010, 01:31:27 AM
the problem comes when u fight mages and archers at the same time... when u fight only fighters is easy how to buff but when mages come u dont have the right buffs...
some day attributes will be fixed and the resist buffs will work against mage and physical ataks... when that day comes it will be the end of QQ archers OP QQ and they will cry more than mages
Bump for QQtopicposterkapibar69
QQ mOar ;)
Quote from: darkcore on November 17, 2010, 06:36:36 PM
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