duelist sub is just for archers on this server i think... cause my glad/wk glad/pp glad/pal with:
skills +15-16
fs's
dnet's +6 with max atr
duals ic +8 max atr
full rb jew +6-8
certificate skills
gives nothing... pvp = glad sucks oly = glad sucks almost all kills glad. no comment... I won't QQ. All I can do is stop playing glads... cheers
i qq for orcs ... xD
can i join ur Qq? ;D
bd/se sux :'( fix throne root cuz its useless :D
reroll all ... make archers on pvp and daggers, ty/wc or mage tanks for oly :)
Quote from: Kafaro on December 02, 2010, 04:54:29 PM
duelist sub is just for archers on this server i think... cause my glad/wk glad/pp glad/pal with:
skills +15-16
fs's
dnet's +6 with max atr
duals ic +8 max atr
full rb jew +6-8
certificate skills
gives nothing... pvp = glad sucks oly = glad sucks almost all kills glad. no comment... I won't QQ. All I can do is stop playing glads... cheers
little intelligent players that you will never cease to pay the applicable make you new hero and it will be ok ...
Quote from: Kafaro on December 02, 2010, 04:54:29 PM
duelist sub is just for archers on this server i think... cause my glad/wk glad/pp glad/pal with:
skills +15-16
fs's
dnet's +6 with max atr
duals ic +8 max atr
full rb jew +6-8
certificate skills
gives nothing... pvp = glad sucks oly = glad sucks almost all kills glad. no comment... I won't QQ. All I can do is stop playing glads... cheers
now glads got new nerf -30% dmg from skills, gz...
Quote from: Wizjoner on December 02, 2010, 07:30:20 PM
now glads got new nerf -30% dmg from skills, gz...
cause instead of fixing skills that work with bow they nerf whole char xD <3 dragon network
Quote from: Kafaro on December 02, 2010, 04:54:29 PM
duelist sub is just for archers on this server i think... cause my glad/wk glad/pp glad/pal with:
skills +15-16
fs's
dnet's +6 with max atr
duals ic +8 max atr
full rb jew +6-8
certificate skills
gives nothing... pvp = glad sucks oly = glad sucks almost all kills glad. no comment... I won't QQ. All I can do is stop playing glads... cheers
if someone could give me equip i might come on ur server and show u the "oly = glad sucks" again xD
glad is just for archers. duelist spirit skill is just for archers (doesnt works with duals) . all is for archers... and new nerf is a minus for glad/he? i think for glad which use duals not bow.... btw i haven't seen during this year any glad which could have more than 50pts at oly except my chars.... it's not normal as a glad class. duelists were always forgotten on our serv by our gm's
Quote from: Kafaro on December 02, 2010, 08:07:57 PM
glad is just for archers. duelist spirit skill is just for archers (doesnt works with duals) . all is for archers... and new nerf is a minus for glad/he? i think for glad which use duals not bow.... btw i haven't seen during this year any glad which could have more than 50pts at oly except my chars.... it's not normal as a glad class. duelists were always forgotten on our serv by our gm's
Thats true, anyway i cant kill Kafarka QQ
Quote from: Alex on December 02, 2010, 07:46:58 PM
if someone could give me equip i might come on ur server and show u the "oly = glad sucks" again xD
i can hook you up with a light set and jwls but u need heavy / duals :)
Quote from: Cenarius on December 02, 2010, 08:32:35 PM
Thats true, anyway i cant kill Kafarka QQ
who make kafarka ?? 8) 8) 8)
you troopi ;p
Quote from: cthon on December 02, 2010, 09:05:23 PM
i can hook you up with a light set and jwls but u need heavy / duals :)
u should play more often
Quote from: Kafaro on December 02, 2010, 08:07:57 PM
glad is just for archers.duelist spirit skill is just for archers (doesnt works with duals) . all is for archers... and new nerf is a minus for glad/he? i think for glad which use duals not bow.... btw i haven't seen during this year any glad which could have more than 50pts at oly except my chars.... it's not normal as a glad class. duelists were always forgotten on our serv by our gm's
WTF?
This could only happen on DN...
Quote from: cthon on December 02, 2010, 09:05:23 PM
i can hook you up with a light set and jwls but u need heavy / duals :)
Howe about you hook me up with a bow during the week :P
so wtf now? will a pal/gladi sux if i play him with blund???
or this is only for duals weapon?????????????
Quote from: Tabbox on December 02, 2010, 09:19:32 PM
u should play more often
i got 0 time to play
gz for hero :d
Quote from: Zuluman on December 02, 2010, 10:31:31 PM
Howe about you hook me up with a bow during the week :P
just tell me on msn when u are in game and if i cant log i can give u the acc so u can take it or ask mark to give it
Quote from: cthon on December 03, 2010, 12:11:45 AM
i got 0 time to play
gz for hero :d
just tell me on msn when u are in game and if i cant log i can give u the acc so u can take it or ask mark to give it
pm me your msn dude. Think I have the wrong one
Quote from: Kafaro on December 02, 2010, 04:54:29 PM
duelist sub is just for archers on this server i think... cause my glad/wk glad/pp glad/pal with:
skills +15-16
fs's
dnet's +6 with max atr
duals ic +8 max atr
full rb jew +6-8
certificate skills
gives nothing... pvp = glad sucks oly = glad sucks almost all kills glad. no comment... I won't QQ. All I can do is stop playing glads... cheers
what do you want for glad, some special skils? or maby you want extra enchant skils for atrybut? go try QQ to ncsoft not here
PS:glads are useles now because you cant kill evryone on oly? no farm=no coins=no fun?
i never see you on pvp and i don't know why you still play here, if you don't going on pvp you don't have fun from this game lol
cause glad was always weak on pvp. and i want normal working skills and don't want any nerfs anymore. and tell me which glad was killing any good char on oly except my chars??? and after nerf it's impossible even for me... btw duelist spirit should give (WITH DUALSWORD!!!!) atck speed and bigger dmg from normal hits and skills during pvp. it gives 0 profits with dmg.i made it +17 = still nothing changed. and what's most curious as i know duelist spirits works on glad/he with BOW ... n/c and why GM doesn't post about glad nerf? glad was always weak (all was talking that glad is good because of my chars). what with other glad players? they don't have got bad equip. and they can't do anything at oly. outside town as all know glad without bow is uselles. and for a bonus we obtain -30% skills power. as i said i won't qq cause no1 doesn't care about glads like always. only to nerf it... so the best way is reroll to other char. i don't want any changes anymore. so don't cry chlipus. i just wanna say what was always wrong with this class. .
PS. I wish u ALL less viciousness. It's just a game and we should all respect each other. Best wishes guys.
Quote from: Kafaro on December 03, 2010, 11:45:01 AM
(all was talking that glad is good because of my chars)
Dream on, we had a lot of better GL's than u, but they all left server or reroll, like for example IUDA, lorelay, DevilStar, 16V and Kwas.
Quote from: Weezer on December 03, 2010, 12:40:18 PM
Dream on, we had a lot of better GL's than u, but they all left server or reroll, like for example IUDA, lorelay, DevilStar, 16V and Kwas.
lorelay was played by iuda :P
I'm talking about these days! I remember them. but when they played there was a balance and not so many bugs. so u didn't get the point and i knew that some1 will say smth about this sentence. I mean that i got all items which glad can have... sure that can be dnet+7-8 and duals +15 ... eh nevermind. I think this sentense wasn't the most important of what i wanted to say... but u will have to catch smth ... and how can u say better then me??? cause they had better items than me ??? heh... and why they left or reroll? cause glad sucks outside oly... now sucks everywhere ;p tell me where are all glads now? i htought that's the 1 of the best chars for 1 vs 1
Quote from: Kafaro on December 03, 2010, 01:02:36 PM
I'm talking about these days! I remember them. but when they played there was a balance and not so many bugs. so u didn't get the point and i knew that some1 will say smth about this sentence. I mean that i got all items which glad can have... sure that can be dnet+7-8 and duals +15 ... eh nevermind. I think this sentense wasn't the most important of what i wanted to say... but u will have to catch smth ... and how can u say better then me??? cause they had better items than me ??? heh... and why they left or reroll? cause glad sucks outside oly... now sucks everywhere ;p tell me where are all glads now? i htought that's the 1 of the best chars for 1 vs 1
Think a bit in solution to ur char options to pvp and u will discover how to play!
I'm not a "pro" GL player like u but i find a way to play as GL chars even after all this "nerfs" and still good to play, i tested with a GL (no sub) of a friend of mine and damage was rly cool, and after some tests the best option for me was to make GL/PA for what i wanna.
Since u soo good GL u will also find the way cause i'm just a noob and i made GL just cause of ur char! :D
It's your opinion. So I'm glad that u will play glad... but i think u checked dmg before another nerf. nevermind. I wish u good play with new char :)
Quote from: Kafaro on December 03, 2010, 01:28:15 PM
It's your opinion. So I'm glad that u will play glad... but i think u checked dmg before another nerf. nevermind. I wish u good play with new char :)
Checked yesterday, unless we got something new today imo it's still fine, ofc before damage was better, but now it still playable.
But don't worry i wont make it, i dont have time to make new char.
If it's playable start play it. I talked with many glads and all says that it's not playable. And i don't worry cause i said that i would be happy if u will start play glad
Quote from: Kafaro on December 03, 2010, 02:14:18 PM
If it's playable start play it. I talked with many glads and all says that it's not playable. And i don't worry cause i said that i would be happy if u will start play glad
Ok, lvl up my char till 85, give me a horn or kill quest golk for me, give me a good weapon and i will play it, but ofc don't give me a Dual Weapon cause i don't need it i need other weapon.
Use bow imo ;D
Quote from: Weezer on December 03, 2010, 02:26:56 PM
Ok, lvl up my char till 85, give me a horn or kill quest golk for me, give me a good weapon and i will play it, but ofc don't give me a Dual Weapon cause i don't need it i need other weapon.
that the problem :) ppl make glad to play it as it should be and not with another weapon :p
Quote from: seboulba on December 03, 2010, 04:54:09 PM
that the problem :) ppl make glad to play it as it should be and not with another weapon :p
Or maybe that's the solution, duals isnt the only weapon a GL can use.
Quote from: Weezer on December 03, 2010, 01:33:52 PM
Checked yesterday, unless we got something new today imo it's still fine, ofc before damage was better, but now it still playable.
But don't worry i wont make it, i dont have time to make new char.
its so funny every time someone gets nerfed a random guy playing other char or not playing at all, pops up and says "ur char is fine, a friend of a friend of an ex clanmate was hitting mobs and he said all is ok" or " i test glad and he is fine, dmg was ok " (just how the fack u know what dmg should there be since u cant even notice whats changed just by loging once or twice a firends glad.....?)
But my favorite 2 cents is smth like "noob use proper buffs , if u buff corectly u ll do awesome dmg and as i recall another glad yesterday was hitting me for 20k per hit"
Quote from: chlipus on December 03, 2010, 03:45:57 AM
what do you want for glad, some special skils? or maby you want extra enchant skils for atrybut? go try QQ to ncsoft not here
lol? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-IC3skpc_A
I want only remove this stupid nerf, nothing more
Quote from: jygh on December 03, 2010, 01:00:54 PM
lorelay was played by iuda :P
Only at the end ;) when they almost stopped playing
I dont understand one thing, the problem here its glad nerf / some skill not working properly? or its the He/Glad non mutant char?
Some people just cant stand being owned...
btw that skill can have 2 types of enchant: 1: Increases dual-sword weapon Atk. Spd
2: Increases general/skill attack damage when in PVP
but it should give dmg from normal hits and skills without enchant.... but it gives 0. i made it for POWER +17 and it gives still 0 ... and the second thing is that it doesn't works with duals but it works with bow (as i know). it should works only with duals.
Quote from: Kafaro on December 04, 2010, 11:19:15 AM
but it should give dmg from normal hits and skills without enchant.... but it gives 0. i made it for POWER +17 and it gives still 0 ... and the second thing is that it doesn't works with duals but it works with bow (as i know). it should works only with duals.
It should work on power enchant with all weapons and on atk speed enchant only with duals, your problem is with the skill not working with duals on power dont blame he/glad.
but why with bow works and with dual it doesn't ????? i send screens to gm... and nothing as always.
Quote from: Kafaro on December 04, 2010, 10:58:53 PM
but why with bow works and with dual it doesn't ????? i send screens to gm... and nothing as always.
Perhaps because after all those years of crying about glads OP in olys they decided to eliminate that skill to "balance" glads :o
when they were OP? when u saw glad which had more than 50 pts except my chars??? tell me...
Quote from: Kafaro on December 05, 2010, 04:47:02 PM
when they were OP? when u saw glad which had more than 50 pts except my chars??? tell me...
Kafaro, the only reason u've been hero is cos IUDA and the other good GLs left NM long ago, and they did more than 100 pts as far as I know. U'r not worth even half of'em, so stop acting like if u were a pro GL...
To the NM staff, I left long ago so I dunno how things are REALLY going, but everything I see at forums are ppl talking'bout stupid fixes and nothing important to improve this server for once, full of bugs what causes nerfs cos u'r too lazy to fix'em.
good beacause of what? cause they had better items than others? so stop u all talking that they were better then me. and my point is that more ppl than me should have SOME pts at oly as a glad. understood the point biacz? so stfu. btw who the F are u taught guy?
I'm backing to play soon, started with a archer.... not tested yet using duals witth my old glad..... but as I read in this topic.... if duelist spirit its not working with duals I'll not waste time testing it...... wtf duelist spirit works with bow and not with duals? wtf?
As Weezer said.... try find another way to use your char...... I think it's not fair, it's like dead eye, rapid fire works with blunts.... so archer will stop using bow to use blunt to be able to use the skill? or even.... archers be sux with bows.... so they might sub with some class that will use their skills and not bow?
sure that gl's was OE in IL (good times ^^).... but it was in IL.... the server is now HB..... I have in mind a answer why its working with bows and not with duals... but i'll not post it... it would make some ppls angry :)
edit: on HB i dunno but on IL, to be hero u need 300+ pts with glad
Quote from: Kafaro on December 05, 2010, 05:39:11 PM
good beacause of what? cause they had better items than others? so stop u all talking that they were better then me. and my point is that more ppl than me should have SOME pts at oly as a glad. understood the point biacz? so stfu. btw who the F are u taught guy?
Not at all, they knew to play their char way better than u'll ever do. And about oly, L2 isn't only a game for 4 hours. It's true that glads shuld have more power, but u'r selfish. Where the hell were u when there was no problem in oly for u but for others? Or when ur ally mates were farming points to feed u?
Lil' tard, learn english please!
I left long ago, r u able to read?
Quote from: Sephiroth on December 05, 2010, 04:59:14 PM
Kafaro, the only reason u've been hero is cos IUDA and the other good GLs left NM long ago, and they did more than 100 pts as far as I know. U'r not worth even half of'em, so stop acting like if u were a pro GL...
IUDA was best glad thats true but why u say kafaro was shitty one since u never ever even registered for olympiad or made pvp with him ?? its kinda funny flaming someone that u dont even know how he play lol
Quote from: jygh on December 05, 2010, 10:31:13 PM
IUDA was best glad thats true but why u say kafaro was shitty one since u never ever even registered for olympiad or made pvp with him ?? its kinda funny flaming someone that u dont even know how he play lol
No shit, now u'r so wise that u even know who I've pvp'd with or who I've watched playing Oly. Once again u surprise me...
Quote from: jygh on December 05, 2010, 10:31:13 PM
IUDA was best glad thats true but why u say kafaro was shitty one since u never ever even registered for olympiad or made pvp with him ?? its kinda funny flaming someone that u dont even know how he play lol
Maybe cause in all his posts he say: "all made GL after they saw how i pwn all with mine". Come on, ok i understand he's ur cousin but u must admit that he's talking shits when say that.
Besides the fact we had a lot of better GL on this server, GL used to be a good class to play on IL that's why a some of people start playing that, and after people started playing some GL/XX combos cause of other reasons.
nice photo sephiroth :
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/2521/24032001.jpg - QQ
http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,107276.96.html
weezer u're stupid or what? I said that i can earn some pts beacause I've got good items... but many ppl have got not bad equip and they can't do anything. But they should if glad wouldn't sucks. can't u understand that? And btw I'm kafaro's brother. I made this topic and he even dunno about this. . And u can't say that some1 was better than him. U can just say that some1 had better items than him. when iuda and kwas was playing kafaro had much more worse items but he won them few times. so stfu if u dunno anything. And if u wanna say smth at this topic say smth about the point of this topic not bullsh1ts. say that kafaro sucks and keep silence if u dunno anything about glads and u cant say anything about nerf and the topic case.
Show me urs, those were made for fun in a holiday 3 years ago, so why shall I care what do u or anybody here think'bout them?
Well, is that all u can answer? Don't u have a brain to use? Damn...so sad :'(
about duelist spirit, anyone so kind to put a good scree with and without it ?
tnx
I send screens to Kain long time ago and no answer.... he won't do anything with this.
ok
if u are so kind to login ingame and take 2 screen (...... 4 better. dual/another weapon WITHOUT dual/another weapon WITH) and post it here (or send in pm as u prefer) i'll report to drake directly
don't blame kain and track . u cannot imagine how many report we hav eevery day. forget some is easy
Quote from: Piccy on December 06, 2010, 02:44:11 PM
ok
if u are so kind to login ingame and take 2 screen (...... 4 better. dual/another weapon WITHOUT dual/another weapon WITH) and post it here (or send in pm as u prefer) i'll report to drake directly
duelist spirit works for all weapons from NORMAL ATTACK
but not work from skills
dual weapon w/o DS
http://img638.imageshack.us/i/glad10.jpg/
dual weapon with DS
http://img64.imageshack.us/i/glad2.jpg/
1h sword w/o DS
http://img809.imageshack.us/i/glad3.jpg/
1h sword with DS
http://img137.imageshack.us/i/glad4.jpg/
and my old screens show how glad got nerf (i was hitting better w/o dance and pof) + not working enchant (with enchant dmg is lover)
DS w/o enchant
http://img442.imageshack.us/i/lolololt.jpg/
DS +8
http://img89.imageshack.us/i/lololol2.jpg/
DS +10
http://img689.imageshack.us/i/lololol3.jpg/
believe me or not.....
fixed (up in next 24-48h)
at least, ++++++++power skill will be fixed
Quote from: Kafaro on December 06, 2010, 01:50:49 PM
weezer u're stupid or what? I said that i can earn some pts beacause I've got good items... but many ppl have got not bad equip and they can't do anything. But they should if glad wouldn't sucks. can't u understand that? And btw I'm kafaro's brother. I made this topic and he even dunno about this. . And u can't say that some1 was better than him. U can just say that some1 had better items than him. when iuda and kwas was playing kafaro had much more worse items but he won them few times. so stfu if u dunno anything. And if u wanna say smth at this topic say smth about the point of this topic not bullsh1ts. say that kafaro sucks and keep silence if u dunno anything about glads and u cant say anything about nerf and the topic case.
LOL WTF IS THIS guy all about hahah dude i played IUDA on thisserver more them u had hot meals and for the record i dont know if any gladiator on this server rape me more that 3 fights maybe only with barvara i had real pvp on this server and maybe kwas but rest of gl/pp they bearly tuch my hp how about kafaro char ever ever didnt took not even half on my hp on lorelay or IUDA after ppl leave the server a lot of heroes start to be pro players pff enjoy your game and dont say bullshit on forum .SHOW ME A SCREEN WHEN U KILLED IUDA OR LORELAY IN OLY AND I WILL GIVE U MY DUALS +16 FOR FRE lol And for the record i never had vallakas on this server just few times hellka borowed me/i never had dynasty set +6/and i never had duals more then +10
Iuda remember Aquiiles? Gladi/pp years ago? u dont win me for many and i played with tallum h set +6 and tb dle +7 if u remember xD
Quote from: xAtiilax on January 10, 2011, 06:03:54 PM
Iuda remember Aquiiles? Gladi/pp years ago? u dont win me for many and i played with tallum h set +6 and tb dle +7 if u remember xD
? what was my armor that time i cant remember was probably long long time ago! i cant even remember your char!
Quote from: lorelay on January 10, 2011, 05:36:22 PM
LOL WTF IS THIS guy all about hahah dude i played IUDA on thisserver more them u had hot meals and for the record i dont know if any gladiator on this server rape me more that 3 fights maybe only with barvara i had real pvp on this server and maybe kwas but rest of gl/pp they bearly tuch my hp how about kafaro char ever ever didnt took not even half on my hp on lorelay or IUDA after ppl leave the server a lot of heroes start to be pro players pff enjoy your game and dont say bullshit on forum .SHOW ME A SCREEN WHEN U KILLED IUDA OR LORELAY IN OLY AND I WILL GIVE U MY DUALS +16 FOR FRE lol And for the record i never had vallakas on this server just few times hellka borowed me/i never had dynasty set +6/and i never had duals more then +10
nah nah nah malaka :D +16 Samurai ? :D in c3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8VjCQtpMLo
;D
i loled hard at "zielona chujnia" or how to spell that xD it reminds me Kwas and Ivenoo at oly
Quote from: Sali on January 11, 2011, 04:05:40 AM
i loled hard at "zielona chujnia" or how to spell that xD it reminds me Kwas and Ivenoo at oly
that video shows that items are not so important :)
"zielonaja chujnia" btw
Quote from: Vegas on January 10, 2011, 08:46:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8VjCQtpMLo
;D
nm+bw+mj+tallum ftw! :D
Quote from: lorelay on January 10, 2011, 05:36:22 PM
LOL WTF IS THIS guy all about hahah dude i played IUDA on thisserver more them u had hot meals and for the record i dont know if any gladiator on this server rape me more that 3 fights maybe only with barvara i had real pvp on this server and maybe kwas but rest of gl/pp they bearly tuch my hp how about kafaro char ever ever didnt took not even half on my hp on lorelay or IUDA after ppl leave the server a lot of heroes start to be pro players pff enjoy your game and dont say bullshit on forum .SHOW ME A SCREEN WHEN U KILLED IUDA OR LORELAY IN OLY AND I WILL GIVE U MY DUALS +16 FOR FRE lol And for the record i never had vallakas on this server just few times hellka borowed me/i never had dynasty set +6/and i never had duals more then +10
yeah i killed u 2 times at oly but it wasn't so excited to make screens. btw u had better items. i had sh1tty dnet, no valky, no antharas, shitty dual, low skills. and just started play glad. so didn't know that char well. and when i had better items i pwned u on arena. nevermind. u're good player. and it wasn't the point of this topic.
Sulko was better than u too greedy bastard ;D
i kill u all haha
yeah now everyone that could do a shit is better than iuda right :))
Why don´t reset all the nerfs, fix the skills to see if they work, see what happens and then nerf only the things that are out of "balance"? I mean, orcs will kill alone a raid boss unless you nerf it far beyond playable so restore vicious stand for achers so a party of archers kill them as fast, quit the nerf of magic attack against rbs and you have party of mages kill them as fast as an orc. Nerf all is not the way to have balance. I really miss the times when I see DAs, SKs and TKs tanking rbs, no one is playing this classes and if you see someone playing one of them probably is a noob or a new player in server. I also would like to see more than tyr/destros, archers, buffers and daggers in server, I´m pretty sure than more than the 50% of the active players are archers and if you add the other three things it will raise to more than the 80% of them. Dont you want to see more variety of chars playing?