Ok here we go.
We know well than ppl had donated / given by friendly GM skills. We know it for ex. thx to stupidy of some ppl, like brokie, who's posted screens with his bar...and ups Deflect Magic there, skill which You can get only from quest in that time, quest which one for SURE was not maked so earliy. Was impossible in that time collect items. And brokie is not only one.
We know than some ppl have added some speciall abilites to their chars, it's not secret thx to stupidy again, couse those ppl showed this to few persons.
Also in first day after update some ppl had buyed and maked full vesper armor + 6 with full atributes and OE vesper weapon with full atributes. Others ppl don't have so much luck with attributes, and fail 9/10.Strange.
To Donny was added already everything. So there is no sense do ANYTHING. Was added couse again "some" ppl asked for it, like You wroted in some post.
We see new chars with everything full, chars which NO ONE saw earlier.
To be honest, I fuk this all (ok ok ok almoust I fuk this). But here we have next thing :
(http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/1070/lolmfy.th.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/84/lolmfy.png/)
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Whoopss CLAN LVL 11.
So this mean all have much higher ranks, so it's mean more skills etc. So it's mean : advantage.
Now explain me.
How clan without castle (and for it You must kept castle minimum 10 weeks). Without territory Lord. And so fast, can have lvl 11.
Others clans work hard for lvl 9. And was impossible do it faster than TheHeroes clan, BA and AoD.
So how they can have clan lvl 11.
It was impossible make it in normall way. Couse they do meet requirements and was simply NO TIME for it since update.
Tell me now. How me, as CL can kept my ppl here ? It's my job (hard like hell) kept ppl here, kept clan active.
You make my job almoust impossible.
How I can motivate and kept ppl here ? What sense is stay here ?
I should tell them to go do some things or donate everyone 500 euros ?
What I should tell them ? How I can give them reaon to play here ?
People don't see sense play here Track. You know why ?
Couse there is no limits in reward for donate. There is no stuff what You CAN'T buy or get from friendly GM.
Soon You stay here with few ppl, couse for rest there is no sense to play at all.
Lot of my ppl (and not only from my clan) already test others servers Track. How I can kept them here ?
You have any ideas ? Couse my ideas almoust end.
We should try do smth still to get ANY advantage ? For ex Beleth ? Or ppl who stay 90 % game time on giran stairs will be have all anyway, without Do ANYTHING.
Tell me for what try do smth here ? If others without DO ANYTHING have more anyway.
ps. Lets go flamers, tell me how I sux, how much my clan sux, and how I cry. Heal Your complexes here. Show how big e-dk You have in game, couse in life You are totall losers.
Quote from: lasombra on August 16, 2011, 12:02:22 AM
Ok here we go.
We know well than ppl had donated / given by friendly GM skills. We know it for ex. thx to stupidy of some ppl, like brokie, who's posted screens with his bar...and ups Deflect Magic there, skill which You can get only from quest in that time, quest which one for SURE was not maked so earliy. Was impossible in that time collect items. And brokie is not only one.
We know than some ppl have added some speciall abilites to their chars, it's not secret thx to stupidy again, couse those ppl showed this to few persons.
Also in first day after update some ppl had buyed and maked full vesper armor + 6 with full atributes and OE vesper weapon with full atributes. Others ppl don't have so much luck with attributes, and fail 9/10.Strange.
To Donny was added already everything. So there is no sense do ANYTHING. Was added couse again "some" ppl asked for it, like You wroted in some post.
We see new chars with everything full, chars which NO ONE saw earlier.
To be honest, I fuk this all (ok ok ok almoust I fuk this). But here we have next thing :
(http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/1070/lolmfy.th.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/84/lolmfy.png/)
Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)
Whoopss CLAN LVL 11.
So this mean all have much higher ranks, so it's mean more skills etc. So it's mean : advantage.
Now explain me.
How clan without castle (and for it You must kept castle minimum 10 weeks). Without territory Lord. And so fast, can have lvl 11.
Others clans work hard for lvl 9. And was impossible do it faster than TheHeroes clan, BA and AoD.
So how they can have clan lvl 11.
It was impossible make it in normall way. Couse they do meet requirements and was simply NO TIME for it since update.
Tell me now. How me, as CL can kept my ppl here ? It's my job (hard like hell) kept ppl here, kept clan active.
You make my job almoust impossible.
How I can motivate and kept ppl here ? What sense is stay here ?
I should tell them to go do some things or donate everyone 500 euros ?
What I should tell them ? How I can give them reaon to play here ?
People don't see sense play here Track. You know why ?
Couse there is no limits in reward for donate. There is no stuff what You CAN'T buy or get from friendly GM.
Soon You stay here with few ppl, couse for rest there is no sense to play at all.
Lot of my ppl (and not only from my clan) already test others servers Track. How I can kept them here ?
You have any ideas ? Couse my ideas almoust end.
We should try do smth still to get ANY advantage ? For ex Beleth ? Or ppl who stay 90 % game time on giran stairs will be have all anyway, without Do ANYTHING.
Tell me for what try do smth here ? If others without DO ANYTHING have more anyway.
ps. Lets go flamers, tell me how I sux, how much my clan sux, and how I cry. Heal Your complexes here. Show how big e-dk You have in game, couse in life You are totall losers.
The most important line is here !
Quote from: lasombra on August 16, 2011, 12:02:22 AM
...
Senseless to quote all your post, but you are right, I'm interested aswell in how to keep ppl to continue playing, since even I didnt play for some weeks. Why dont you start with making your ppl do less questing and participate in more pvp. I know it wont solve the above mentioned "issues", but it is a start.
Mr.Zero is making 2nd Dragon here...
Money > Traditions :-\
BTW When would you merge x20 to x15 ?
BTW 2 PL edition: Chcecie kupić postać? Clan? Skille? Czy broń? Wypierdalajcie na Dragon!
This is private server, it's completly understandable for me that GMs earns money for running it. Thats why I don't care when I see Vesper bows +15 and some skills added to chars. But everything has limits and should be done with common sense. Don't ruin whole server cause of stupid donation system... Ppl really gona start leaving and then even donating will be pointless.
Just Gms know that the ship is ready to shink and try to get as much money as possible from every game mean till the end which looks closer with the sh1ts i read...
dont worry, nobody needs ur skill bars
Sad but true if the server continues this path that is soon going to end for both donators and normal players, especially if tard brokie and friends continue tink they are pro and can make all they want , track we know you read this try to do something before is no reverse.
felissin u just didnt read carefully instructins how to make clan lvl 11 they know more about game then us together :o
anyway yuuki with their 1 pt who mostly stand in town can be even lvl 100 they wont count in this game cos still some of their member in donated sets +skills others in dc /ic set proly they have rules that u must donate soon ;D (sry i forget about mr.pr0wnzor 1 man army broki aka faszfej, who kill alone all only few times he fail badly>> first time when he borned was a big fail for the humans in this world)
anyway track gj was holiday fine ? x-mass is close start collect money 8)
ps yes felissin u r naab ::)
ps2. track still waiting for fixing char so far more then half year ago tell me price pls
/mybirthday 2/22/2011
and already soe many haterz :) i was legendary on x15 u even make me bigger here
<3 and i even dont have to beon the forum for that
have a nice day people :)
dont forget ,keep on the hate for some pixels <3
Quote from: andreww on August 16, 2011, 08:00:06 AM
i was legendary on x15
yup thats true, as i heard from ppl who played or still play on x15, u was legendary tard there
about topic. before merge with nightmare we didnt saw such sh1t, when if u have money and put them in game u can get everything directly from gm. on this server as i see its quite normal and gm have somewhere deep in ass gameplay, keeping server alive, keeping ppl on server, they care only about 1 thing only, about their paypal account status.
so up for this topic and waiting for official gm answer. or for answer we need donate too??? if yes tell us price atleast...
as i remember yuuki had dion since start of GF, so just by the time they couldn't get lvl 9 clan faster than any clan that had fort at that time. + need 8 weeks after making clan lvl 9 to make clan lvl 10, and now that they don't have a castle they are lvl 11?
GJ track, get more money in short time, cause really soon, not by DNET time, but by players time not much ppl will stay to entertain your tard-squad of donators, nothing to do here
Quote from: lasombra on August 16, 2011, 12:02:22 AM
Ok here we go.
We know well than ppl had donated / given by friendly GM skills. We know it for ex. thx to stupidy of some ppl, like brokie, who's posted screens with his bar...and ups Deflect Magic there, skill which You can get only from quest in that time, quest which one for SURE was not maked so earliy. Was impossible in that time collect items. And brokie is not only one.
We know than some ppl have added some speciall abilites to their chars, it's not secret thx to stupidy again, couse those ppl showed this to few persons.
Also in first day after update some ppl had buyed and maked full vesper armor + 6 with full atributes and OE vesper weapon with full atributes. Others ppl don't have so much luck with attributes, and fail 9/10.Strange.
To Donny was added already everything. So there is no sense do ANYTHING. Was added couse again "some" ppl asked for it, like You wroted in some post.
We see new chars with everything full, chars which NO ONE saw earlier.
To be honest, I fuk this all (ok ok ok almoust I fuk this). But here we have next thing :
(http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/1070/lolmfy.th.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/84/lolmfy.png/)
Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)
Whoopss CLAN LVL 11.
So this mean all have much higher ranks, so it's mean more skills etc. So it's mean : advantage.
Now explain me.
How clan without castle (and for it You must kept castle minimum 10 weeks). Without territory Lord. And so fast, can have lvl 11.
Others clans work hard for lvl 9. And was impossible do it faster than TheHeroes clan, BA and AoD.
So how they can have clan lvl 11.
It was impossible make it in normall way. Couse they do meet requirements and was simply NO TIME for it since update.
Tell me now. How me, as CL can kept my ppl here ? It's my job (hard like hell) kept ppl here, kept clan active.
You make my job almoust impossible.
How I can motivate and kept ppl here ? What sense is stay here ?
I should tell them to go do some things or donate everyone 500 euros ?
What I should tell them ? How I can give them reaon to play here ?
People don't see sense play here Track. You know why ?
Couse there is no limits in reward for donate. There is no stuff what You CAN'T buy or get from friendly GM.
Soon You stay here with few ppl, couse for rest there is no sense to play at all.
Lot of my ppl (and not only from my clan) already test others servers Track. How I can kept them here ?
You have any ideas ? Couse my ideas almoust end.
We should try do smth still to get ANY advantage ? For ex Beleth ? Or ppl who stay 90 % game time on giran stairs will be have all anyway, without Do ANYTHING.
Tell me for what try do smth here ? If others without DO ANYTHING have more anyway.
ps. Lets go flamers, tell me how I sux, how much my clan sux, and how I cry. Heal Your complexes here. Show how big e-dk You have in game, couse in life You are totall losers.
They didnt donate for it, i was testing with them few things (as i did in past with other clans too) anyhow i forgot to change it back, however they have lvl 9 clan not 11 anymore. Anyhow clan lvl 11 is available for everyone , it WORKS so instead of making here pointless topics make one since its very much available.And your story about donation for everything is just to feed the crowd what they wanna hear so they can enjoy flaming , thats far from the truth but u know what no matter what i tell you you gonna keep your side of the story so i wont bother (happened all these 5 years here) , to sum up they are lvl 9 was my mistake i didnt change it back after test , now you can continue with your topic.
pathetic, making tests with active clan, you have rahmaninov server for that
and didn't you forget to remove clan lvl 11 skills?
Quote from: TrackZero on August 16, 2011, 08:49:10 AM
They didnt donate for it, i was testing with them few things (as i did in past with other clans too) anyhow i forgot to change it back, however they have lvl 9 clan not 11 anymore. Anyhow clan lvl 11 is available for everyone , it WORKS so instead of making here pointless topics make one since its very much available.And your story about donation for everything is just to feed the crowd what they wanna hear so they can enjoy flaming , thats far from the truth but u know what no matter what i tell you you gonna keep your side of the story so i wont bother (happened all these 5 years here) , to sum up they are lvl 9 was my mistake i didnt change it back after test , now you can continue with your topic.
rly funny. u up active clan to lvl11, "forgot" about it and topic pointless? i rly dunno how long they have this clan lvl but for sure not 1 day and how long they could keep it if we wont "remind" u ^^
awe 100% no ;D
track0 knowledge about L2 is -1
gl
Quote from: flamingAwe on August 16, 2011, 09:11:48 AM
pathetic, making tests with active clan, you have rahmaninov server for that
and didn't you forget to remove clan lvl 11 skills?
pathetic or not thats how it is. Rachmaninov doesnt exist anymore. And they got no skills from clan 11,i was so KO last night that i forgot to put back after test so imo they couldbt roll server in <12h. Im finishing updates today that was a part of test too
Understable for me :P btw. what is max amount of att in each armor part?
Quote from: Zaled on August 16, 2011, 09:36:39 AM
Understable for me :P btw. what is max amount of att in each armor part?
i kinda start to become real bored of this
brokie is this brokie is that, max atri is 600 end of story track made 30+ skillz ,why i still screaming for wtb gcm grow up
he didnt make me 30+ skillz i dont have a +15 dagger blabla bla
@
u people realy must start wear other glasses , and be not that negative about what track does or do
u people scream for month's clan lvl 9 is bugged is bugged , now its not bugged any more, track even took the time to check clan lvl 10+ 11
for u people to be sure its all oke ,because drake is simply to lazy
so grow up ,and be happy of the ammount of time track spends in it,and he even react to u people what drake quit many years ago all because of u cry kiddo's
Quote from: andreww on August 16, 2011, 09:43:43 AM
u people scream for month's clan lvl 9 is bugged is bugged , now its not bugged any more, track even took the time to check clan lvl 10+ 11
clan lvl9 not bugged? cool story. so enlighten me plox mr."imfakingproguruofl2andno1betterthanme" how we can expand number of units in orders of knights if instead of it i got option for rename orders of knights, even if in description there "increase number of units....". and dont tell me plox its works cuz i checked it 1 hour ago on 2x char and still same sh1t.
it wasn't anything about you kido, i simply asked. You are not a center of l2 world, you are just little cipher who thinks coz of his money he is pro. Njoy
Track = NM's ppl GM
Piccy = Infi's ppl GM (and I am not sure about that) - sadly offline / unactive since loong weeks... WTF is with him?! Still playing on PS3?!
Anyway, we are foked :P
BTW What if we delete wars to 'yuuki'?
What would they do with all that brand new, shining items? Who would they attack out of town? :D
Ah sry, brokie will donate for perma wars vs server, doesn't matter if you have a clan or not ::)
Quote from: Zaled on August 16, 2011, 09:36:39 AM
Understable for me :P btw. what is max amount of att in each armor part?
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I guess also the unbanning-renaming services to big donators that was caught l2walkering also are lies Tracky? But you was failing sometimes on renaming too and you had to fake-ban and rename them again cause ppl realized what happened.
Quote from: TrackZero on August 16, 2011, 09:33:31 AM
pathetic or not thats how it is. Rachmaninov doesnt exist anymore. And they got no skills from clan 11,i was so KO last night that i forgot to put back after test so imo they couldbt roll server in <12h. Im finishing updates today that was a part of test too
is test server doesn't exist you could make new clan and make tests on it, not on active clan
and you were too KO last night to say, that they don't have clan lvl 11 skills
if testing on players is so easy, why didn't you test on my char Counter Critical, when i had ALL prerequisites, just couldn't swithc sub to learn skill myself? same day as subs were fixed I got that skill, so really had everything ready.
Quote from: VforVanilla on August 16, 2011, 10:05:16 AM
I guess also the unbanning-renaming services to big donators that was caught l2walkering also are lies Tracky? But you was failing sometimes on renaming too and you had to fake-ban and rename them again cause ppl realized what happened.
:D why use l2w :) ???
Quote from: andreww on August 16, 2011, 08:00:06 AM
i was legendary on x15 u even make me bigger here
U was legendary idiot like krisolo now.
BTW what nick u got on x15 ?:D
Im almost sure u was in BlackHand or Reloaded
Quote from: PolSilv3r on August 16, 2011, 12:54:21 AM
BTW 2 PL edition: Chcecie kupić postać? Clan? Skille? Czy broń? Wypierdalajcie na Dragon!
Silver problem w tym że oni są z x15 :D
Nawet koles co jest GM na x15 gra u nas na servie :P
Dodam jeszcze ze najbardziej bawi mnie to że ta "ekipa" to dawni rywale ktorzy donacili: BlackHand, Hyuga, KnightOfSerbia, ogołem stara Alpha i DyingBreed.
Sam byłem w klanie gdzie grał mąż od GM (i zapewne wiekszosc juz wie o kogo chodzi). Dodam jeszcze ze pewien lider z klanu ktorego ine powiem ale ma inicjały BH, włamał sie do date base servera i wkleił cos na forum za co pewna pani GM została zdegradowana do GMa na x200.
Ktos jesli grał na x15 to pamieta ich bronie... Praktycznie enchat rate taki sam jak teraz maja..
Quote from: PolSilv3r on August 16, 2011, 09:56:12 AM
Track = NM's ppl GM
Piccy = Infi's ppl GM (and I am not sure about that) - sadly offline / unactive since loong weeks... WTF is with him?! Still playing on PS3?!
Sad but true
Quote from: flamingAwe on August 16, 2011, 10:11:50 AM
is test server doesn't exist you could make new clan and make tests on it, not on active clan
and you were too
WTS TardZero friend list and u see why :D
is there a reason why clans section doesn't work under statistics ?
Quote from: andreww on August 16, 2011, 12:44:04 PM
:D why use l2w :) ???
Back then the gm donation option to buy ready lvled up chars wasn't well-known so some ppl should lvl up themselves :(
I play on Dnet since almost what...6 years now?Few months after the server's start anyway...and really...never seen more "Strange" things happening on Infi than now . . . there always was corruption from players and Gms side it's not some big secret ,everyone can agree with this.....but there was never corruption on SUCH BIG level as it is now .....and i don't speak of donations overall....is speak about "Unfair distribution of rights among donators" if i can put it this way...in simple words you could say that who is willed to offer more will have access to KNOW more and Knowledge=Power ,so at least it would be a big step to being fair from the staff of the server if we knew how much at least it takes to gain those stuff and i don't like people who hide behind their own finger....we're all of a certain age here to know that those exist.
ALL we (By we i mean small amount of donators of not even donators) know,is that 1 euro=1 coin ,but we have no idea what you could get in case if you would donate let's say 800 euros ...are there any bonuses and what are they.
ONCE AGAIN I POINT OUT,I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH DONATORS as i know that the true so called "Pro" reveals himself when he can survive a fight with a worthy opponent and so far there is not equal power between 2 sides due to donation option and the benefits of it even if it's something normal to gain power through it faster than other people.
So,once again...my question is directly "What are the bonuses of someone who donates some "x" amount of euros where "x" is the secret number that bonuses start reveal themselves . :P
And if they don't exist ,then what access have the so called from people "Friends" of the server staff?(We all know those exist ,let's not play hide and seek).
:)
I guess i won't get answer ,or i'll get some corrupted answer by some hater but never from Staff member,but what the hell,at least i said it. ;D
Quote from: sirSethan on August 16, 2011, 01:57:14 PM
U was legendary idiot like krisolo now.
BTW what nick u got on x15 ?:D
Im almost sure u was in BlackHand or Reloaded
Silver problem w tym że oni są z x15 :D
Nawet koles co jest GM na x15 gra u nas na servie :P
Dodam jeszcze ze najbardziej bawi mnie to że ta "ekipa" to dawni rywale ktorzy donacili: BlackHand, Hyuga, KnightOfSerbia, ogołem stara Alpha i DyingBreed.
Sam byłem w klanie gdzie grał mąż od GM (i zapewne wiekszosc juz wie o kogo chodzi). Dodam jeszcze ze pewien lider z klanu ktorego ine powiem ale ma inicjały BH, włamał sie do date base servera i wkleił cos na forum za co pewna pani GM została zdegradowana do GMa na x200.
Ktos jesli grał na x15 to pamieta ich bronie... Praktycznie enchat rate taki sam jak teraz maja..
Sad but true
WTS TardZero friend list and u see why :D
Insult me 1 more time and you will regret it.
Quote from: Shadow21 on August 16, 2011, 09:53:36 AM
clan lvl9 not bugged? cool story. so enlighten me plox how we can expand number of units in orders of knights if instead of it i got option for rename orders of knights, even if in description there "increase number of units....".
up
Quote from: andreww on August 16, 2011, 08:00:06 AM
i was legendary on x15 u even make me bigger here
U was legendary idiot like krisolo now.
BTW what nick u got on x15 ?:D
Im almost sure u was in BlackHand or Reloaded
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Quote from: TrackZero on August 16, 2011, 03:37:18 PM
Insult me 1 more time and you will regret it.
You wanna say u are brookie?? JUST LOL
Why u write "me" when i telling it to brokie? :P
(70% server are right that Brookie is idiot)
Selfowned telling all about this situation on wrong reading?:D
Now answer to all what u write it :D
Quote from: wildpussy on August 16, 2011, 02:08:15 PM
is there a reason why clans section doesn't work under statistics ?
im glad that not only me see that
@Sethan: Better you re-read again what YOU wrote at the end. "TardZero" is an insult. Got it now?
Quote from: Herza on August 16, 2011, 06:57:05 PM
@Sethan: Better you re-read again what YOU wrote at the end. "TardZero" is an insult. Got it now?
its name or beter i wrong write his nick Track Tard all can make mistake :P
This same numer of letters: P
Quote from: sirSethan on August 16, 2011, 01:57:14 PM
Dodam jeszcze ze najbardziej bawi mnie to że ta "ekipa" to dawni rywale ktorzy donacili: BlackHand, Hyuga, KnightOfSerbia, ogołem stara Alpha i DyingBreed.
Sam byłem w klanie gdzie grał mąż od GM (i zapewne wiekszosc juz wie o kogo chodzi). Dodam jeszcze ze pewien lider z klanu ktorego ine powiem ale ma inicjały BH, włamał sie do date base servera i wkleił cos na forum za co pewna pani GM została zdegradowana do GMa na x200.
Ktos jesli grał na x15 to pamieta ich bronie... Praktycznie enchat rate taki sam jak teraz maja..
sethan ty byles posmiewiskiem dragona w pizdu dlugo tak samo jak psyck wiec kurwa nie rob z siebie boga . inna sprawa to po co gadasz glupoty w stylu ze kotenka zostala "zdegradowana" kurwa downie jesli jest administratorem areny?? lol skoncz juz wstydu oszczedz gadasz to co uslyszysz .
TRACK BAN SETHAN PLZZZZZZZ
Quote from: jygh on August 16, 2011, 07:34:41 PM
sethan ty byles posmiewiskiem dragona w pizdu dlugo tak samo jak psyck wiec kurwa nie rob z siebie boga . inna sprawa to po co gadasz glupoty w stylu ze kotenka zostala "zdegradowana" kurwa downie jesli jest administratorem areny?? lol skoncz juz wstydu oszczedz gadasz to co uslyszysz
Gadam to o co wy (FTP) płaczecie teraz.
Byłem kiedys w ally z BH a potem z męzem od kotenki w pozniejszym LordOfDestinies.
Myslisz ze edytowane skile nie były na dragonie??
Sam sie osobiście przyznaje do tego że takie coś sam posiadałem.
Nie wiem czy wiesz macku z klanu ale kotenka dłuugi czas była gm na x15.
Po incydencie z BH wywalili ją do zabawiania noobow na arenie gdzie nikt nie gra.
Jesli nie masz pojęcia o czym mówisz lepioej nie pisz nic.
Pośmiewiskiem byłem dla ludzi takich którzy sami korzystali z usług Gmów.
Teraz równie dobrze mozna wysmiac Aod (wg twojej filozofi) bo sami piszecie to co
ja pisałem już w huj dawno a wy sie z tego nabijaliście do puki sami nie zobaczyliscie
jak was ruchają.
Taka jest prawda i nie jeden aodziak się ze mną z godzi. I takie są fakty moge nawet was cytować.
Mamy ten sam punkt widzenia "Nie dla specjalnych przywilejów" dla donatorów.
Quote from: Shadow21 on August 16, 2011, 09:53:36 AM
clan lvl9 not bugged? cool story. so enlighten me plox how we can expand number of units in orders of knights if instead of it i got option for rename orders of knights, even if in description there "increase number of units....".
up up and up kurwa
Quote from: TrackZero on August 16, 2011, 08:49:10 AM
They didnt donate for it, i was testing with them few things (as i did in past with other clans too) anyhow i forgot to change it back, however they have lvl 9 clan not 11 anymore. Anyhow clan lvl 11 is available for everyone , it WORKS so instead of making here pointless topics make one since its very much available.And your story about donation for everything is just to feed the crowd what they wanna hear so they can enjoy flaming , thats far from the truth but u know what no matter what i tell you you gonna keep your side of the story so i wont bother (happened all these 5 years here) , to sum up they are lvl 9 was my mistake i didnt change it back after test , now you can continue with your topic.
Thank You for answer.
And You didn't get the point my question Track (even iif it's hard to belive)
I didn't wanted stupid flame, and problems from ass. Also I have nothing to donators, I know I play here only thx to them (but donations should have limit)
I play here 6+ years (Felissin is my 3'rd char, and in few days 6 years pass), and I get here lot of fun and meet many great ppl - so I care about this server. I want play on good server, where ppl want to play.
And if ppl asking, they need get answers, in other way there is many rumors.
ps. if You can fix clan ranking on forum, there will be much less issues and questions.
Quote from: Shadow21 on August 16, 2011, 09:53:36 AM
clan lvl9 not bugged? cool story. so enlighten me plox how we can expand number of units in orders of knights if instead of it i got option for rename orders of knights, even if in description there "increase number of units....".
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Bla bla bla... if some 1 spends more money than me ig or is more skilled than me lets flame him to dead huh?? rofl patetic little ants...
The more you flame some1 the more you make that person famous morrons...
Anyway i don't give a fuk about OE armors/weapons/jewels.... if some1 has than gtfo of this private server...
However i care is some classes have skills who don't belong, but i never saw such a thing... so if that hapens here, can some1 send me a pic?
to be honest, I actually wonder about these famous unkillable "edited GM frands and donadors" can someone call couple names?
Indeed there's an limit to how far "donation" goes.
There's a difference by giving donators the chance getting items/things faster then people that don't or can't spend money it, and giving items/things that are just not possible getting ingame or too hard.
Ofcourse this has been going on for years and it never really has been an problem (exept on dragon).Untill you start dealing the wrong kinda donation stuff with the worst possible guy like Brokie (certain "Win" that everyone will find out). I'm not saying he shouldn't be able donating anything, but things like +++ items on such person is just wrong (i'd say let him donate for coins en enchant himself, he'll eventually do it anyway if u wont give him the chance to donate for it). And also there should not be a difference between a normal player or a donator or even as "lowcase" donator and someone like Brokie.
As example the racist case some days/weeks ago, we both know it was quite an coincidence that Brokie went away (on some vacation) just when he got banned (track knows what i mean).
I truly understand money is important, but how i see it, your giving 1 (or multiple people) just too much wich leads this kind of topics and u might loose players and as "end" result "lowcase" donators will leave the server including other people. Wich eventually will knock ur incoming of donation down...
And what bothers me that the ally FTP tries to hard achieving the same things as "top" donators wich leads to ALLOT of farming from them and pvp fun almost only at sieges. Where did the times go noone cared that much about items and just went for pvp no matter what better items the other person had? I'd love seeying full pvp activity at varka or any other place for all i care... And that is imo the reason most people stay in giran, cause there are like 2 sides now, 1 is farming, 1 wants pvp that cant be found cause of the farming side.
Don't get me wrong, i'm not hating on anyone and i ain't picking any side (I barely even play cause of the lack of pvp).
And i've also donated in the past, and also for something that ain't included in the donation list, so not hating on donators aswell.
People just need to wake up... I mean...
Track you like getting an bad "status" cause of such stuff?
FTP ask yourself is it really farming that makes L2 fun for you?
Overpaying donators does it really make you feel good winning a pvp with things that the other person(s) can't achieve?
Everyone is screwing the fun up for themselfs tbh.
Quote from: ForgotPass on August 17, 2011, 01:17:47 AM
Indeed there's an limit to how far "donation" goes.
There's a difference by giving donators the chance getting items/things faster then people that don't or can't spend money it, and giving items/things that are just not possible getting ingame or too hard.
Ofcourse this has been going on for years and it never really has been an problem (exept on dragon).Untill you start dealing the wrong kinda donation stuff with the worst possible guy like Brokie (certain "Win" that everyone will find out). I'm not saying he shouldn't be able donating anything, but things like +++ items on such person is just wrong (i'd say let him donate for coins en enchant himself, he'll eventually do it anyway if u wont give him the chance to donate for it). And also there should not be a difference between a normal player or a donator or even as "lowcase" donator and someone like Brokie.
As example the racist case some days/weeks ago, we both know it was quite an coincidence that Brokie went away (on some vacation) just when he got banned (track knows what i mean).
I truly understand money is important, but how i see it, your giving 1 (or multiple people) just too much wich leads this kind of topics and u might loose players and as "end" result "lowcase" donators will leave the server including other people. Wich eventually will knock ur incoming of donation down...
And what bothers me that the ally FTP tries to hard achieving the same things as "top" donators wich leads to ALLOT of farming from them and pvp fun almost only at sieges. Where did the times go noone cared that much about items and just went for pvp no matter what better items the other person had? I'd love seeying full pvp activity at varka or any other place for all i care... And that is imo the reason most people stay in giran, cause there are like 2 sides now, 1 is farming, 1 wants pvp that cant be found cause of the farming side.
Don't get me wrong, i'm not hating on anyone and i ain't picking any side (I barely even play cause of the lack of pvp).
And i've also donated in the past, and also for something that ain't included in the donation list, so not hating on donators aswell.
People just need to wake up... I mean...
Track you like getting an bad "status" cause of such stuff?
FTP ask yourself is it really farming that makes L2 fun for you?
Overpaying donators does it really make you feel good winning a pvp with things that the other person(s) can't achieve?
Everyone is screwing the fun up for themselfs tbh.
Please don't give yourself right to judge about something or someone just trough rumors or words you have hear or have been told. Things goes around for years and in the end when we state the facts (REAL FACTS) no1 , and i mean no1 comes here to say THANKS or SORRY, same goes for all the job i (we) are doing here, NONE will ever say thank you , tbh im not even expecting it , im just saying those things became normal. You will have people who gonna say BUG THIS BUG THAT, when you approach the guy asking him the to show you or explain you, there is a big chance he will go afk or tell you , well track i have heard of it from xxx, same goes for all the rumors people are throwing here from ancients!! I will also tell you some things you knew or didn't knew, and is easy to check (ask piccy for example or any other gm), after all the mess happened in past (FAR PAST before me) on x15,x30 etc... Drake obviously made a system that EVERYTHING is loged, so every command gm makes is LOGED in the file and any item gm want to summon its loged and is possible to check by 1 click outside the game (im talking about FULL LOGS for all the gm-s), so if you are saying all these things dont you think drake would dismiss me long ago since in the end its his server!!
So please people get yourself together and try to think mature , instead of flaming without reason help me with new ideas or advises as you know im back and we are rolling again.
As for a topic subject, i already explained before it was my mistake i didn't return after the test and i admit it, but personally they couldn't ROLL the server in <12h (and no i wouldn't forget) (and why that clan? Because i mostly work at late night and their clan leader is a person i know for long and trust and well most important HE IS ONLINE when most of you sleep), and in the end ive tested many things with other clans in past too , sadly we cant afford dedicated machine for test server only.
Im gonna lock this one cause there will be useless spam, and believe me there is enough of it already.