3k min - 7k max dmg recived in vesper light set full atri in olympiad
Do they need a fix?
discuss....
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Quote from: Sp3ctre on September 05, 2011, 07:28:44 PM
3k min - 7k max dmg recived in vesper light set full atri in olympiad
Do they need a fix?
discuss....
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if u decrease the pvp damage from the dagger that alex with his stuff are pretty normal for me, a low/middle stuffed dagger will hit for what 200-500 ? so stop to cry about them
Quote from: seboulba on September 05, 2011, 07:40:04 PM
if u decrease the pvp damage from the dagger that alex with his stuff are pretty normal for me, a low/middle stuffed dagger will hit for what 200-500 ? so stop to cry about them
mhm
i wander if u rly belive that :)
next time bring some armor
Quote from: Sp3ctre on September 05, 2011, 07:28:44 PM
3k min - 7k max dmg recived in vesper light set full atri in olympiad
Do they need a fix?
discuss....
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we never meet i think ?
Quote from: andreww on September 05, 2011, 08:12:26 PM
we never meet i think ?
who are u ?
u cant hit for more then 7k dmg
Quote from: Sp3ctre on September 05, 2011, 09:33:52 PM
who are u ?
u cant hit for more then 7k dmg
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Quote from: Sp3ctre on September 05, 2011, 09:33:52 PM
who are u ?
u cant hit for more then 7k dmg
HE is GM friend:P BTW on oly now see all skils who ppl use it?:P
Or hide to soe ppl got "really fun" ?:P
Quote from: andreww on September 05, 2011, 10:20:30 PM
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Dude i have to say u are ameizing :)))
When i post before, i said to my friend next to me: " i bet he will say he can do more then 7k"
and u did it...
so again daggers hit for 3k-8.4k even brookie agree :D
they for sure need a fix.
Track do somthink becose oly is a joke right now.
Quote from: sirSethan on September 05, 2011, 10:20:33 PM
HE is GM friend:P BTW on oly now see all skils who ppl use it?:P
Or hide to soe ppl got "really fun" ?:P
what about u r talking hmm ???
after all those years, you cry about high daggers Dmg... jesus, where are those times full of flame bout low daggers dmg...
Quote from: zthrx on September 06, 2011, 12:00:16 AM
after all those years, you cry about high daggers Dmg... jesus, where are those times full of flame bout low daggers dmg...
Welcome back :o ?
Quote from: TrackZero on September 06, 2011, 12:14:04 AM
Welcome back :o ?
trying manage some time to play, but need to finish couple cases IR.
But if you give me some nice items to survive 5s in the battle with old farmers, I'll play since tomorrow ;)
is not about daggers, is about learning to play ur char, why u dont get low crit skill of certification? maybe that will work.
BTW backstab hits harder enough to kill u if u are hitten by the back, so just dont run from daggers or they will use that skill on u xD
Quote from: andreww on September 05, 2011, 10:20:30 PM
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pfff that hurts xD
Quote from: Phonex on September 06, 2011, 01:14:17 AM
is not about daggers, is about learning to play ur char, why u dont get low crit skill of certification? maybe that will work.
BTW backstab hits harder enough to kill u if u are hitten by the back, so just dont run from daggers or they will use that skill on u xD
yea tank they and they will cancel all buff from dagger +pvp =D is your choise
yes, daggers are super OP, especially all those daggers from AoD. Im constantly getting 10k damage from them, could someone finally nerf daggers more than they are already?!
Quote from: Phonex on September 06, 2011, 01:14:17 AM
is not about daggers, is about learning to play ur char, why u dont get low crit skill of certification? maybe that will work.
BTW backstab hits harder enough to kill u if u are hitten by the back, so just dont run from daggers or they will use that skill on u xD
u are almost :) close +8 str make's the trick :D its all about the setup of your char
Quote from: Alex on September 06, 2011, 03:11:22 AM
yes, daggers are super OP, especially all those daggers from AoD. Im constantly getting 10k damage from them, could someone finally nerf daggers more than they are already?!
ur pathetic... ::) tell me that, daggers are sux now <rofl>
Quote from: Sp3ctre on September 05, 2011, 07:28:44 PM
3k min - 7k max dmg recived in vesper light set full atri in olympiad
Do they need a fix?
discuss....
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You can receive from the other daggers, with a lower enchanted dagger or other type of attribute dmg between 3-5k from crits.
So I doesn't see nothing special in Alex dmg whan he have better enchanted dagger plus f.e. attr type different than Yours in set.
Quote from: WindWalk on September 06, 2011, 10:32:43 AM
You can receive from the other daggers, with a lower enchanted dagger or other type of attribute dmg between 3-5k from crits.
So I doesn't see nothing special in Alex dmg whan he have better enchanted dagger plus f.e. attr type different than Yours in set.
first of all he dont evan know what`s mean full attribut
2nd i bet he have 180 max what`s mean dont ressit dmg at all w/o suport of some ressit buffs who will incrase his attribut more then 200 to start droping the dmg from openents for 5-10% so he got full dmg +full bonus of attributs what can say that dmg he took is prity normal coz focus death is allready nerf it and give only 10-15% bonus now from back not like 2 weeks aego 65% so stop QQ again about daggers are allready 2 time`s nerfed try make 450+ attributs in armor then cry that u got hited hard not playing like a naked especially that kamaels who dont evan have 1 buff for p.def and proboly use that self zerk who drop his p.def evan more
Quote from: Kastro on September 06, 2011, 12:04:55 PM
first of all he dont evan know what`s mean full attribut
2nd i bet he have 180 max what`s mean dont ressit dmg at all w/o suport of some ressit buffs who will incrase his attribut more then 200 to start droping the dmg from openents for 5-10% so he got full dmg +full bonus of attributs
make tests before posting. attr damage increase curve is not officail here and not like it was in HB....
Sarcasm On
Simple solution: Give back mages 100% magic critical
Sarcasm Off
Quote from: Kastro on September 06, 2011, 12:04:55 PM
first of all he dont evan know what`s mean full attribut
2nd i bet he have 180 max what`s mean dont ressit dmg at all w/o suport of some ressit buffs who will incrase his attribut more then 200 to start droping the dmg from openents for 5-10% so he got full dmg +full bonus of attributs what can say that dmg he took is prity normal coz focus death is allready nerf it and give only 10-15% bonus now from back not like 2 weeks aego 65% so stop QQ again about daggers are allready 2 time`s nerfed try make 450+ attributs in armor then cry that u got hited hard not playing like a naked especially that kamaels who dont evan have 1 buff for p.def and proboly use that self zerk who drop his p.def evan more
It seems lately this forum is full of allknowing ppl...that have no idea what they talking about.
Dude any way u will take this reciving 3k-5k normal hits with skils and 7k-8k crit from skils it is UNACCEPTABLE in a resonable way.
Btw Track why was Steal Divinity so badly nerfed to 1 min reuse and 3 bufs steal
when cancel is 20 s, and cancel from panther is 20 s too??? (not to mention about dagger cancel pvp bonus)
I could understand to make it steal 3 bufs but let reuse 20-25 s becose was an esential skill of the race.
But not 1 min from 15 s original skil reuse?
Ps: i dont expect an answer...
Soon will have brookie plaing alone on this server.
Quote from: Evolution on September 06, 2011, 10:24:57 AM
ur pathetic... ::) tell me that, daggers are sux now <rofl>
but for such pro sorc/glad like u they shouldnt be a problem
Quote from: Sp3ctre on September 06, 2011, 04:57:40 PM
It seems lately this forum is full of allknowing ppl...that have no idea what they talking about.
Dude any way u will take this reciving 3k-5k normal hits with skils and 7k-8k crit from skils it is UNACCEPTABLE in a resonable way.
Btw Track why was Steal Divinity so badly nerfed to 1 min reuse and 3 bufs steal
when cancel is 20 s, and cancel from panther is 20 s too??? (not to mention about dagger cancel pvp bonus)
I could understand to make it steal 3 bufs but let reuse 20-25 s becose was an esential skill of the race.
But not 1 min from 15 s original skil reuse?
Ps: i dont expect an answer...
Soon will have brookie plaing alone on this server.
This made my day. Until this point, I thought I gave a chance that you might try to reason with common sence. But the highlighted statement just shows that your ego got badly hurt by certain ppl stabbing you to f.uck. Honestly, check some official movies, and you will see that daggers are allready nerfed here, hence Track said everything will work like on official. Yet I haven't seen any good daggerist cry about it for long, they adept. I wonder why didn't I see any UNACCEPTABLE DMG cry topic about you, when we had 100% magic critical rate...
Take into consideration what Kastro said, and remember that not everyone has top gear like the screenshotted ppl you posted. By nerfing a class because of certain ppl owned your ass, you ruin the game for low geared people, who are trying hard to achieve something in this old server.
@Track: don't listen to tantrum topics like this, just keep fixing real bugs, and keep up the good work.
@ those ppl who consider my above statement an asslick to Track: you can take a step back, and f.uck yourself in the face. I wonder how many ppl would spend so much time with this server and community, and won't get frustrated of all time crying. Personally, I would.
Quote from: PvtStuka on September 07, 2011, 11:52:52 AM
This made my day. Until this point, I thought I gave a chance that you might try to reason with common sence. But the highlighted statement just shows that your ego got badly hurt by certain ppl stabbing you to f.uck. Honestly, check some official movies, and you will see that daggers are allready nerfed here, hence Track said everything will work like on official. Yet I haven't seen any good daggerist cry about it for long, they adept. I wonder why didn't I see any UNACCEPTABLE DMG cry topic about you, when we had 100% magic critical rate...
Take into consideration what Kastro said, and remember that not everyone has top gear like the screenshotted ppl you posted. By nerfing a class because of certain ppl owned your ass, you ruin the game for low geared people, who are trying hard to achieve something in this old server.
@Track: don't listen to tantrum topics like this, just keep fixing real bugs, and keep up the good work.
@ those ppl who consider my above statement an asslick to Track: you can take a step back, and f.uck yourself in the face. I wonder how many ppl would spend so much time with this server and community, and won't get frustrated of all time crying. Personally, I would.
After all the years u play here u should know this is not oficial and never will be becose of subclass sistem and becose of subclass sistem, rulles from oficial and i mean balance between clases that are meade there wont aply here.
On the other hand u speak about letting thisngs and skils as oficial. Well i have a news for u: skills have been already changed from the way they work as oficial -see cancel and steal divinity (1 min reuse here and steal 3 bufs from 15 s and steal up to 7 bufs as it is on oficial)
About dmg ofcourse getting that amount of dmg is unnaceptable if ppl in light are getting 8k mages get 10k?
Check this movie from Gracia Fianl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suhENu-K7Jo&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PLED1E690CE7EDCA81
since he play oficial oly vs same gered players i this can be representative to check the dmg.(see in HD)
Here is nothink like oficial that u are speaking about.
Quote from: Sp3ctre on September 07, 2011, 03:17:01 PM
After all the years u play here u should know this is not oficial and never will be becose of subclass sistem and becose of subclass sistem, rulles from oficial and i mean balance between clases that are meade there wont aply here.
On the other hand u speak about letting thisngs and skils as oficial. Well i have a news for u: skills have been already changed from the way they work as oficial -see cancel and steal divinity (1 min reuse here and steal 3 bufs from 15 s and steal up to 7 bufs as it is on oficial)
About dmg ofcourse getting that amount of dmg is unnaceptable if ppl in light are getting 8k mages get 10k?
Check this movie from Gracia Fianl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suhENu-K7Jo&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PLED1E690CE7EDCA81
since he play oficial oly vs same gered players i this can be representative to check the dmg.(see in HD)
Here is nothink like oficial that u are speaking about.
1st to answer u why steal divinity is change it coz was pain in the ass skill and kamaels was played only by that skill steal buffs run back till reuse steal buffs run back for reuse anoying fu cking up the pvp fun ,,,, ok steal divinity got nerfed but they got alot of power now if u answer me for sure u will no kamael was not use it only for steal divinity i can tell u this where is the kamaels now i have see few only of instant 20-30 per siage
2nd on that video u post cant see nothing more then fught with S grade wepoan proboly with attribut vs ppl with dc set A-grade and taking insane dmg daggers blow`s on that kamael was so low dmg coz proboly UD and like i told u before gear ur ass spend money to fix good attributs afther tell me u get crazy dmg coz let say i hit mage 3-7k have u see dmg on stabs on tanks? i have not see more then 1k on tank who dont have attribut so suposly he make attribut is 500 dmg can u tell me when dagger will kill tank or at lat go close to his HP coz mostly wont take the CP dont turn ur ass vs daggers and maybe u wont resive such a "huge" dmg like u say on allready nerfed focus death/power ..... go go tears pls and heppy way to ur cave!
First of all im agree with this topic dagger class is OP, maybe in off gracia final it hit hard but not as hard as here also here cant be LIKE OFFICIAL cuz its DN! Here we have substack what should automatic nerf some class to dont be so over...
Maybe i havent top gear but i was fightin in oly some time in hellbound also in other servers of gracia, i never saw so unbalanced stats... If u want to block all transfers here set some class able to fight I'm playing ne/bp i have debuffs + heal but for what? i cant heal my ass if i get 2x more dmg than i have hp...
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Quote from: Peorexo on September 07, 2011, 09:19:17 PM
First of all im agree with this topic dagger class is OP, maybe in off gracia final it hit hard but not as hard as here also here cant be LIKE OFFICIAL cuz its DN! Here we have substack what should automatic nerf some class to dont be so over...
Maybe i havent top gear but i was fightin in oly some time in hellbound also in other servers of gracia, i never saw so unbalanced stats... If u want to block all transfers here set some class able to fight I'm playing ne/bp i have debuffs + heal but for what? i cant heal my ass if i get 2x more dmg than i have hp...
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Damn he removed your kiss of eva. That's why this damage :-[
Quote from: Peorexo on September 07, 2011, 09:19:17 PM
First of all im agree with this topic dagger class is OP, maybe in off gracia final it hit hard but not as hard as here also here cant be LIKE OFFICIAL cuz its DN! Here we have substack what should automatic nerf some class to dont be so over...
Maybe i havent top gear but i was fightin in oly some time in hellbound also in other servers of gracia, i never saw so unbalanced stats... If u want to block all transfers here set some class able to fight I'm playing ne/bp i have debuffs + heal but for what? i cant heal my ass if i get 2x more dmg than i have hp...
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~nerf entangle
~nerf cancel
~nerf tod
~nerf tribunal
~nerf vortex
~nerf cubicks
~nerf stunn shot
~ nerf nerf nerf all lol
~disable bsss disable talismen
what server u want ,a server where we play 6 min oly and no winner
lol , a little suggestion for u join x15 those playing gm's nerf all chars the see LOLLED
those idiots nerf mine focus death already
Quote from: Kastro on September 07, 2011, 04:27:54 PM
1st to answer u why steal divinity is change it coz was pain in the ass skill and kamaels was played only by that skill steal buffs run back till reuse steal buffs run back for reuse anoying fu cking up the pvp fun ,,,, ok steal divinity got nerfed but they got alot of power now if u answer me for sure u will no kamael was not use it only for steal divinity i can tell u this where is the kamaels now i have see few only of instant 20-30 per siage
2nd on that video u post cant see nothing more then fught with S grade wepoan proboly with attribut vs ppl with dc set A-grade and taking insane dmg daggers blow`s on that kamael was so low dmg coz proboly UD and like i told u before gear ur ass spend money to fix good attributs afther tell me u get crazy dmg coz let say i hit mage 3-7k have u see dmg on stabs on tanks? i have not see more then 1k on tank who dont have attribut so suposly he make attribut is 500 dmg can u tell me when dagger will kill tank or at lat go close to his HP coz mostly wont take the CP dont turn ur ass vs daggers and maybe u wont resive such a "huge" dmg like u say on allready nerfed focus death/power ..... go go tears pls and heppy way to ur cave!
I wont tell u that u do not know how to count, i am sure u know...
But mabe u are not plaing mutch or maby not seeing verry good? 20-30 kamels /sige ?
The kamaels that play on sige are: SoulRipper, Wheoky, Verg0, SlimTK, DivaCesaria, ICarebear( he play it sice he is hero) and me (sry for misstyping any name)
Put somone to count those for u !
But this is not about kamels.
About turning back on daggers...All the dmg i posted was from face to face combat. They do not need or bother to hit from back.
I made some tests and about landing rate of blows:
Deadly Blow 8 succes / 2 miss from face to face
Lethal Blow 5 succes / 5 miss from face to face
Backstab 100% succes if is hited from an angle of 90 degrees
So they dont need to hit from back.
A fight will usually go like this: hide, backstab and if u dont die from this (probably dont) nest succesfull blow game over!
I post that video to chack the dmg made from ppl (not oly that kamel) with aproximate same echip. U can see similar movies to check dmg and u wont see a char hiting for more then 2.5k max 3k.
Quote from: VforVanilla on September 08, 2011, 10:51:55 AM
Damn he removed your kiss of eva. That's why this damage :-[
Well actually he did good. If he has more bufs then Touch of Death would cancel from him the bufs he does not need.
But like i said before this forum if full of allknowing ppl...
Quote from: andreww on September 08, 2011, 11:12:18 AM
~nerf entangle
~nerf cancel
~nerf tod
~nerf tribunal
~nerf vortex
~nerf cubicks
~nerf stunn shot
~ nerf nerf nerf all lol
~disable bsss disable talismen
what server u want ,a server where we play 6 min oly and no winner
lol , a little suggestion for u join x15 those playing gm's nerf all chars the see LOLLED
those idiots nerf mine focus death already
No, we want a server where time needed to enter oly loast more then the fight itself.
Where 5 ppl join oly max 10 in good days and i speak the ppl that join oly to fight not to transfer.(like it is now)
Next time when u shout join oly and u w8 30 mins for a fight give yourself an answer why the oly is like this.
lol'd @ fail zerker who never tries to use stun and attempts to prove something on forum by making tests consisting of using skill 5 times
Quote from: Alex on September 08, 2011, 01:37:44 PM
lol'd @ fail zerker who never tries to use stun and attempts to prove something on forum by making tests consisting of using skill 5 times
Plz excuse me mr pro...
Can u plz lend your char to my grandma?
I am sure she can win some oly fights with this dmg :)
I am not best player here, i wont be and i dot hope that but i play this game for like 5 y and i know some things about it
even been 5-6 times hero (not by transfer)
And to tell u about stun i think u speak about Lightning Shock well i must tell u that this skill in gracia final is magical
and ofcourse u know (beeing a pro) that tanks like u have a skill Magical Mirror witch reflect 30% of magic debufs
so yes i try not to use it vs tanks in oly becose if gets reflected and usually it is i am dead; i am dead anywai so i should use it more mby i crit for 10k. For that i prefer using more Disarm and Violent Temper witch have like 10% chance to be reflected.
I hope this will enlighten u :)
Ps: next time in oly try use hide to at least give the impresion daggers put some effort in fighting vs other ppl.
About tests u can make as many as u want u will get same result.
Quote from: Sp3ctre on September 08, 2011, 02:18:28 PM
Plz excuse me mr pro...
Can u plz lend your char to my grandma?
I am sure she can win some oly fights with this dmg :)
I am not best player here, i wont be and i dot hope that but i play this game for like 5 y and i know some things about it
even been 5-6 times hero (not by transfer)
And to tell u about stun i think u speak about Lightning Shock well i must tell u that this skill in gracia final is magical
and ofcourse u know (beeing a pro) that tanks like u have a skill Magical Mirror witch reflect 30% of magic debufs
so yes i try not to use it vs tanks in oly becose if gets reflected and usually it is i am dead; i am dead anywai so i should use it more mby i crit for 10k. For that i prefer using more Disarm and Violent Temper witch have like 10% chance to be reflected.
I hope this will enlighten u :)
Ps: next time in oly try use hide to at least give the impresion daggers put some effort in fighting vs other ppl.
About tests u can make as many as u want u will get same result.
seems u dont even understand what skill I am speaking about :DDDD
Im not about nerfing everything, i don't care about stun landrate i don't care about cubics or whatever point is about damage, i will die 100% if i get stunned but this damage is really overpower, im not even able to cast debuff cuz im on 1 shot... If u want bare fights, with good players let it be not becouse of gear or over damage, and without transfer like i said post ago let all class have chance... all class subbed with bp... ne/bp bp/da bp/pal or bp/xx really are impossible to make much pts without transfer...
Quote from: Alex on September 08, 2011, 02:42:14 PM
seems u dont even understand what skill I am speaking about :DDDD
Well if u rly speak about doombringer stun skils is even worse; i give u too mutch credit:)
Using those skils need like 300-400 disatance to the target and for that is needed to turn the back to dager run this distance and then use them.
But nvm u are still a pro in my eys!
u still win with 8k dmg ;)
I have to say again this is not about kamael...
We already see dagger nerfed, like it happened in older chronicles, and if this goes on we gonna have a lot more nerfs comming, just cause of the fact people don't know the real power of some classes on Official server.
Ofc some changes need to be made for some skills cause we have stacking subclass system, like stacking masteries that makes some chars much more OP than others, but daggers r fine atm (but already nerfed).
People here r trying to compare damage of the best geared daggers on our server against their chars, that i bet isnt the best geared, add to that the fact that Kamael f.e. don't have a good p. def. On Official Daggers and TY r for a long time the oly farmers there, and they still be for a long time, cause they r chars that can make massive damage rly fast.
Let's think 1 moment what could happen if those daggers become nerfed.
People like Alex, Mike will hit u for 2-3k max on crits, uiuistrov will hit u for 1,5-2,5k max. Ok fine u can survive against then and will be probably harder for then to kill u (u wont be 1 hit, but in 3 hits u will be dead anyway), now think about ALL other dagger users that dont have the same equips as then, they will crit for what?!? 500 for crits?!? What a joke!!!
Then this same dagger users that crits 500 in oly will crit what in normal pvp or siege?!? 300?!?
As always people ask nerfs cause some OP CHARS, but ask to nerf a WHOLE CLASS, the problem isnt the dagger or tanker class, the problem is that some people have rly good gear, know how to play their chars and they r rly good chars to play.
Quote from: Weezer on September 08, 2011, 03:37:12 PM
We already see dagger nerfed, like it happened in older chronicles, and if this goes on we gonna have a lot more nerfs comming, just cause of the fact people don't know the real power of some classes on Official server.
Ofc some changes need to be made for some skills cause we have stacking subclass system, like stacking masteries that makes some chars much more OP than others, but daggers r fine atm (but already nerfed).
People here r trying to compare damage of the best geared daggers on our server against their chars, that i bet isnt the best geared, add to that the fact that Kamael f.e. don't have a good p. def. On Official Daggers and TY r for a long time the oly farmers there, and they still be for a long time, cause they r chars that can make massive damage rly fast.
Let's think 1 moment what could happen if those daggers become nerfed.
People like Alex, Mike will hit u for 2-3k max on crits, uiuistrov will hit u for 1,5-2,5k max. Ok fine u can survive against then and will be probably harder for then to kill u (u wont be 1 hit, but in 3 hits u will be dead anyway), now think about ALL other dagger users that dont have the same equips as then, they will crit for what?!? 500 for crits?!? What a joke!!!
Then this same dagger users that crits 500 in oly will crit what in normal pvp or siege?!? 300?!?
As always people ask nerfs cause some OP CHARS, but ask to nerf a WHOLE CLASS, the problem isnt the dagger or tanker class, the problem is that some people have rly good gear, know how to play their chars and they r rly good chars to play.
+1
dont like weezer but ;D
+2
IMHO stop nerfing ANYTHING, fix bugs, real bugs, to which you can't put so called(by lamers usually) "OP skills"
simple examples: TW, dino quests, soulbound weapon SA. (all explained in corresponding topics)
Quote from: Weezer on September 08, 2011, 03:37:12 PM
We already see dagger nerfed, like it happened in older chronicles, and if this goes on we gonna have a lot more nerfs comming, just cause of the fact people don't know the real power of some classes on Official server.
Ofc some changes need to be made for some skills cause we have stacking subclass system, like stacking masteries that makes some chars much more OP than others, but daggers r fine atm (but already nerfed).
People here r trying to compare damage of the best geared daggers on our server against their chars, that i bet isnt the best geared, add to that the fact that Kamael f.e. don't have a good p. def. On Official Daggers and TY r for a long time the oly farmers there, and they still be for a long time, cause they r chars that can make massive damage rly fast.
Let's think 1 moment what could happen if those daggers become nerfed.
People like Alex, Mike will hit u for 2-3k max on crits, uiuistrov will hit u for 1,5-2,5k max. Ok fine u can survive against then and will be probably harder for then to kill u (u wont be 1 hit, but in 3 hits u will be dead anyway), now think about ALL other dagger users that dont have the same equips as then, they will crit for what?!? 500 for crits?!? What a joke!!!
Then this same dagger users that crits 500 in oly will crit what in normal pvp or siege?!? 300?!?
As always people ask nerfs cause some OP CHARS, but ask to nerf a WHOLE CLASS, the problem isnt the dagger or tanker class, the problem is that some people have rly good gear, know how to play their chars and they r rly good chars to play.
+2 Some people still don't get it over the years they're brain is capped !
All nerfs that have been made on Dragon Network during the years were because of op gear and oly ! And other classes suffered allot because of this ! Instead of nerfing all classes every chronicle because of people cries and they're sh1t knowledge about L2, better let all classes take full advantage of they're 2 stacking subclass skills : passive and active, like it's supposed to be ! Dragon Network is stacking subclass server ! Not official ! Some people still don't get it ... For what is subclass for? To take advantage of both chars skills.For that Dragon Network custom server was made. So instead of nerfing skills every chronicle, let the skills of all classes work at they're full potential like is supposed to be !
It's simple, here an example : Full op char hits 8k dmg archer / dagger or other class doesn't matter, normal char hits 2-3k ( im not talking about A grade or No grade :D S grade equipped ). So instead of nerfing skills of all classes make a global dmg reduction: Full op char will hit 5-6 k and normal char 3-4k and this will be the best balance and ppl will stop qq like they to since years here !
Hope smart people will understand this message and bump it! No intention to flame no one. Peace !
bogdan rly im lazzy to read ur post ;D !
Damn daggers hit way to much!
Quote from: romancenk on September 08, 2011, 05:48:26 PM
bogdan rly im lazzy to read ur post ;D !
Haha :D Cenk, I think this is my longest post ever. It's my rage during all the years here ;D
On official u all right dagger hit hard... BUT THEY TAKE MUCH DMG TOO, good mage was able to few shot him thats why no1 cries about it there... here 98% daggers (80% total oly players) a re dagger/tank what make impossible to kill that way....
Quote from: DKociak on September 08, 2011, 08:41:32 PM
Hire u can make sps/ee - u can nuke , u can debaf, u can baff ur self, heal ur self ...so stop talikng about dagger/tank class and GTFO noob. QQ MOOOAR .
and get 10k 1 shot dead :D
Quote from: Sp3ctre on September 08, 2011, 08:48:46 PM
and get 10k 1 shot dead :D
Just to inform ur char isnt the best DD and oly farmer here or even on Official server, u will have bad matchups the same way u will have good matchups.
U can beat some AW/SK and TH/PP but not those u mention on ur topic, they have top gear on server and they know how to play their chars, face and accept that, the problem isnt the char u face, but the mix about skills + gear + player.
Quote from: Weezer on September 08, 2011, 09:01:55 PM
Just to inform ur char isnt the best DD and oly farmer here or even on Official server, u will have bad matchups the same way u will have good matchups.
U can beat some AW/SK and TH/PP but not those u mention on ur topic, they have top gear on server and they know how to play their chars, face and accept that, the problem isnt the char u face, but the mix about skills + gear + player.
Ok, we can check dmg of dagger echiped with full vesper (not OE weapon) with or whidout atri vs any other char in full vesper too.
There must be a balance from dmg given and recived; we must take in cosideration dagger with sub vs other xx/xy char (this is dn and i have to say again rulles from off dont aply here).
It needs to be some balace between dmg given and recived. Daggers atm deal too mutch dmg and recive low dmg (not only dager/tank)
Daggers do on off decent dmg but we cannot compare here with oficial. There they dont have sub.There they dye fast too.
Here any sub of dagger wont die fast or recive dmg in comparetion to the dmg they do.
About oly the mix u were talking about "skills + gear + player" is thrue. Give to a decent-good player an op char(including gear) and he will have 99% win rate like brookie have now.
Becose of this oly in DN has lost its porpose; it is no more a place to show the best player of a class and beeng hero is about who manage to transfer more (90% of heroes) or the ones that are not transfering camping the daggers to not meet them.
So ppl started to have enouth to be 1 shooted or to be target practice for daggers so u can see 5-10 ppl max play oly this days.
To make oly balanced somthink like this will do:
Make sets, jewels and weapons just for oly (i know it sounds starnge but read till end :) )
Make the oly gear like shadow weapons are now ( to disapear after 6 mins)
So there is an npc (Oly Donny= modify version of Donny) where if a player that wanna join oly must pay lets say 1-5 dc / month and for a full month he can take from this npc oly gear.
The oly gear will be set to be used only inside oly and will last 6 mins after will disapear(like shadow weapons now).
After u tp inside arena u will be able to unpack this oly gear (like u unpack now sets from donny) use it diring the fight then gear will disapear and so on. Only oly gear will be used in oly.
This way ppl will spent some coins (pay the oly gear every month), evry player that join oly will have top echip,
oly will regain its porpose to show the thrue best skilled heroes of each class and we will have alot of ppl plaing oly.
I gues will be the main atraction of server.
And Track will have to code this...
<3 Track :D
Quote from: Sp3ctre on September 09, 2011, 11:31:48 AM
Ok, we can check dmg of dagger echiped with full vesper (not OE weapon) with or whidout atri vs any other char in full vesper too.
There must be a balance from dmg given and recived; we must take in cosideration dagger with sub vs other xx/xy char (this is dn and i have to say again rulles from off dont aply here).
It needs to be some balace between dmg given and recived. Daggers atm deal too mutch dmg and recive low dmg (not only dager/tank)
Daggers do on off decent dmg but we cannot compare here with oficial. There they dont have sub.There they dye fast too.
Here any sub of dagger wont die fast or recive dmg in comparetion to the dmg they do.
About oly the mix u were talking about "skills + gear + player" is thrue. Give to a decent-good player an op char(including gear) and he will have 99% win rate like brookie have now.
Becose of this oly in DN has lost its porpose; it is no more a place to show the best player of a class and beeng hero is about who manage to transfer more (90% of heroes) or the ones that are not transfering camping the daggers to not meet them.
So ppl started to have enouth to be 1 shooted or to be target practice for daggers so u can see 5-10 ppl max play oly this days.
To make oly balanced somthink like this will do:
Make sets, jewels and weapons just for oly (i know it sounds starnge but read till end :) )
Make the oly gear like shadow weapons are now ( to disapear after 6 mins)
So there is an npc (Oly Donny= modify version of Donny) where if a player that wanna join oly must pay lets say 1-5 dc / month and for a full month he can take from this npc oly gear.
The oly gear will be set to be used only inside oly and will last 6 mins after will disapear(like shadow weapons now).
After u tp inside arena u will be able to unpack this oly gear (like u unpack now sets from donny) use it diring the fight then gear will disapear and so on. Only oly gear will be used in oly.
This way ppl will spent some coins (pay the oly gear every month), evry player that join oly will have top echip,
oly will regain its porpose to show the thrue best skilled heroes of each class and we will have alot of ppl plaing oly.
I gues will be the main atraction of server.
And Track will have to code this...
<3 Track :D
unvalivable big QQ ... first of all evan with same gear all oly players will be same sh1t again u will cry daggers are OP
2nd u telling me that ppl who spend coins/money/farming and some tardo like u who nevar do anything then chathing in game same privilages inside oly how stupid u can be re dude
3th u wanna tell me that mage not hit hard now ??? u want not complaning about mage hit low in HB when each ressit u put on u vs somone deacrese dmg 20-30% now u cry coz somone spend it his money in game to make the attributs coz they arethe only protection vs mages dmg ask Krd0 how he is killing evry posoble dagger in oly w/o any escusses evan he dont have full attribut armor
for F1 spamers like is Frobbiden to have fun in oly go QQ more
Quote from: Sp3ctre on September 09, 2011, 11:31:48 AM
Ok, we can check dmg of dagger echiped with full vesper (not OE weapon) with or whidout atri vs any other char in full vesper too.
There must be a balance from dmg given and recived; we must take in cosideration dagger with sub vs other xx/xy char (this is dn and i have to say again rulles from off dont aply here).
It needs to be some balace between dmg given and recived. Daggers atm deal too mutch dmg and recive low dmg (not only dager/tank)
Daggers do on off decent dmg but we cannot compare here with oficial. There they dont have sub.There they dye fast too.
Here any sub of dagger wont die fast or recive dmg in comparetion to the dmg they do.
About oly the mix u were talking about "skills + gear + player" is thrue. Give to a decent-good player an op char(including gear) and he will have 99% win rate like brookie have now.
Becose of this oly in DN has lost its porpose; it is no more a place to show the best player of a class and beeng hero is about who manage to transfer more (90% of heroes) or the ones that are not transfering camping the daggers to not meet them.
So ppl started to have enouth to be 1 shooted or to be target practice for daggers so u can see 5-10 ppl max play oly this days.
To make oly balanced somthink like this will do:
Make sets, jewels and weapons just for oly (i know it sounds starnge but read till end :) )
Make the oly gear like shadow weapons are now ( to disapear after 6 mins)
So there is an npc (Oly Donny= modify version of Donny) where if a player that wanna join oly must pay lets say 1-5 dc / month and for a full month he can take from this npc oly gear.
The oly gear will be set to be used only inside oly and will last 6 mins after will disapear(like shadow weapons now).
After u tp inside arena u will be able to unpack this oly gear (like u unpack now sets from donny) use it diring the fight then gear will disapear and so on. Only oly gear will be used in oly.
This way ppl will spent some coins (pay the oly gear every month), evry player that join oly will have top echip,
oly will regain its porpose to show the thrue best skilled heroes of each class and we will have alot of ppl plaing oly.
I gues will be the main atraction of server.
And Track will have to code this...
<3 Track :D
Pls go check oly on official or any other server, transfer happens in all servers! Oly on L2 isn't oly IRL.
Transfer will happen, there's some OP chars here or in official, if u find it unfair go play official and make a kamael there, try to bet a skilled AW in oly u have 0% chances, or try some decent TH u will die too.
In oly some classes will be powerfull, here or in official. About being hero for some classes is about transfer, ur clan will log and help transfer points for u that's all. Ask for nerf a char cause u can't kill then or they kill u too easy is just lame and without good reasons for that, what u asked in start of topic was to nerf the chars who r farming u in oly.
And now u wanna that all plays with same gear, rly lol. What about cap items to S grade only in oly?!? U still be raped by daggers in Draco or IC + AS+CD.
Understand 1 simple thing: some players r OP in oly, they gonna kill u no matter what. Try avoid then like all others do, or make a char that can kill then, believe there's chars that can kill then and they r not just Tank/Dagger combo.
Quote from: Kastro on September 09, 2011, 02:15:10 PM
unvalivable big QQ ... first of all evan with same gear all oly players will be same sh1t again u will cry daggers are OP
2nd u telling me that ppl who spend coins/money/farming and some tardo like u who nevar do anything then chathing in game same privilages inside oly how stupid u can be re dude
3th u wanna tell me that mage not hit hard now ??? u want not complaning about mage hit low in HB when each ressit u put on u vs somone deacrese dmg 20-30% now u cry coz somone spend it his money in game to make the attributs coz they arethe only protection vs mages dmg ask Krd0 how he is killing evry posoble dagger in oly w/o any escusses evan he dont have full attribut armor
for F1 spamers like is Frobbiden to have fun in oly go QQ more
"evan with same gear all oly players will be same sh1t again u will cry daggers are OP" then by your words means even u belive daggers are OP.
I wont bother from now to reply u since your argunents are "go QQ" instead traing to find some solutions.
" tardo like u" if u would tell me this words in rl i would put my hand gently over your head and ask u to say it again my friend ;D
but wtf u can have your moment of glory here.
Quote from: Weezer on September 09, 2011, 02:46:10 PM
Pls go check oly on official or any other server, transfer happens in all servers! Oly on L2 isn't oly IRL.
Transfer will happen, there's some OP chars here or in official, if u find it unfair go play official and make a kamael there, try to bet a skilled AW in oly u have 0% chances, or try some decent TH u will die too.
In oly some classes will be powerfull, here or in official. About being hero for some classes is about transfer, ur clan will log and help transfer points for u that's all. Ask for nerf a char cause u can't kill then or they kill u too easy is just lame and without good reasons for that, what u asked in start of topic was to nerf the chars who r farming u in oly.
And now u wanna that all plays with same gear, rly lol. What about cap items to S grade only in oly?!? U still be raped by daggers in Draco or IC + AS+CD.
Understand 1 simple thing: some players r OP in oly, they gonna kill u no matter what. Try avoid then like all others do, or make a char that can kill then, believe there's chars that can kill then and they r not just Tank/Dagger combo.
I did play on oficial and daggers are eazy to kill.
Oly with same gear will be good for server and ppl.
Why?
All ppl could join oly, this would make server more fun and this is all about in this game to enjoy it.
On the other hand donators will still have thyrs +++ items in mass pvp (having +++ items means no skil and this will be shown by oly)
And last is better to get 5 E from 100 ppl every month then 500E from 10 ppl at the start of an update.
By this u will have the avarage player happy and having the avarage player happy is important becose whidout avarage player happy there wont be no donators. Donatos are 10-15%. With this amount of ppl u wont make a server.
So donators and non donators ( potentially donators ) must be happy.
On oly made this way will be more eazy to adjust skils becose u will have a larger test area in same conditions.
But this probably wont happen.
About daggers Track or Drake has last word so they cam make tests.
I wont bump this treand anymore.
first of all dont compare oly to normal pvp on full buff on all classes ,combos , then start make nerfs,upgrades etc. .... ;)
other way u can fack up everyting here ;)
Quote from: Sp3ctre on September 09, 2011, 04:26:05 PM
"evan with same gear all oly players will be same sh1t again u will cry daggers are OP" then by your words means even u belive daggers are OP.
I wont bother from now to reply u since your argunents are "go QQ" instead traing to find some solutions.
" tardo like u" if u would tell me this words in rl i would put my hand gently over your head and ask u to say it again my friend ;D
but wtf u can have your moment of glory here.I did play on oficial and daggers are eazy to kill.
Oly with same gear will be good for server and ppl.
Why?
All ppl could join oly, this would make server more fun and this is all about in this game to enjoy it.
On the other hand donators will still have thyrs +++ items in mass pvp (having +++ items means no skil and this will be shown by oly)
And last is better to get 5 E from 100 ppl every month then 500E from 10 ppl at the start of an update.
By this u will have the avarage player happy and having the avarage player happy is important becose whidout avarage player happy there wont be no donators. Donatos are 10-15%. With this amount of ppl u wont make a server.
So donators and non donators ( potentially donators ) must be happy.
On oly made this way will be more eazy to adjust skils becose u will have a larger test area in same conditions.
But this probably wont happen.
About daggers Track or Drake has last word so they cam make tests.
I wont bump this treand anymore.
for ur info like i say it allready evan if they make same gear for all u will cry that dagers are OP i did not say they are OP i say they are for the first time in draong-network daggers are playable evan the nerfs allready start
for 2nd think u say i see u are soooo brave OP maybe? u are joke dude u playing the most powerfull char what was and will remain be till this cancel ressits buff not working but somone need spend some coins on it enchant some skills impruve the gear not only crying on forum and asking for nerfs... and we will all play sps/ee grrr patetic , if u want see how much OP are dagger go a head make it and test it
btw i`m not playing dagger/tank but i dont get more then 800 dmg by any dagger and for u that is to high dmg dude go play beck on official coz u are not for here for sure
I won't read all posts cause pretty much i got a picture after the first few's. Daggers saying ppl are all noobs and can't buff them selfs while rest of the server crys the are OP! Seems Track has nerfed classes b4 for way less dmg then daggers deal atm!
Killing some1 in 1 hit it's not unaceptable like some1 said, it's simply ridiculous! Track the fact that only few O/e players deal this kinda dmg hasn't stoped you from nerfing archer/tanks in the past!
For me, i say fuk olys, and each time i see dagers outta town i bsoe, and fuk what you think... yes i prefer to to soe outta there than engaging in a fight that is lost way b4 it even starts!
Daggers are fking OP. <------Fact!
And here is another fact for ya all pretty soon!
Quote from: Sp3ctre on September 06, 2011, 04:57:40 PM
Soon will have brookie plaing alone on this server.
Quote from: Kastro on September 09, 2011, 08:43:09 PM
dagers are for the first time in draong-network daggers are
Arn't they uiui!! Lawl! daggers are playable atm lol! Dealing 8k each hit the guy says they are playable!
Track don't leave this like this, you can't expect ppl (other than daggers and sps's) to stay atm? Even if you make avgs of 8 events per day you will lose ppl!
If those guys are able to deal 8k dmg to a guy equiped with vesper and atribute, imagine what they can deal to a guy in ic set or dynasty set!!!
I dunno about the rest of my mates but if it was me, who came new to this server and after having a deacent gear, and a deacent gear for a non donator is a dyna armor set and a +5 or so s grade weapon (wich represents hours and hours of farming), after heaving all that i go out of town and get 10k from a player i would imediatly say FU to this server and would gtfo here!
If you wich to leave the power, at least consider nerfing those stupid buff cancel/steal abilitys!
Seriously Gm's take a break sit together for a bit (use webconference i dunno) and balance this stupid servers once and for all! Try to sustify the donations you ask us constantly ffs. All that i see is 1 op class after the other!
Quote from: Lemarc on September 10, 2011, 02:18:28 PM
Arn't they uiui!! Lawl! daggers are playable atm lol! Dealing 8k each hit the guy says they are playable!
Track don't leave this like this, you can't expect ppl (other than daggers and sps's) to stay atm? Even if you make avgs of 8 events per day you will lose ppl!
If those guys are able to deal 8k dmg to a guy equiped with vesper and atribute, imagine what they can deal to a guy in ic set or dynasty set!!!
I dunno about the rest of my mates but if it was me, who came new to this server and after having a deacent gear, and a deacent gear for a non donator is a dyna armor set and a +5 or so s grade weapon (wich represents hours and hours of farming), after heaving all that i go out of town and get 10k from a player i would imediatly say FU to this server and would gtfo here!
If you wich to leave the power, at least consider nerfing those stupid buff cancel/steal abilitys!
Seriously Gm's take a break sit together for a bit (use webconference i dunno) and balance this stupid servers once and for all! Try to sustify the donations you ask us constantly ffs. All that i see is 1 op class after the other!
i will like to see that dagger who will hit me on vesper armor +full attribut 8k or bring it to me that char u play it with vesper set +full attributs i will hit u same class as uiui and will post it here the scren not just to say bla bla 8 k 10k fery storys
as for the dude who see dagger and make instant soe have infor for him Dagger >archer was and will be allways
p.s: stop the cry about dagger coz is the only chornical u can use them want not take huge dmg of dagger start spending ur coins on dony menager for energys fix ur armors afther say if dagger hit hard not playing like a naked and gethign insaine dmg`s THE END
and close this damn topic anoying all time from ppl who only know to cry not searching for resnoble solution
Dule, plz be reasonable and stop saying that others don't know how to buff thems selfs or don't have atributes or wrong atributes etc etc! I play this server for almost 6 years and i tell you right away i resent the fact that you call me noob or talk down my gear! Dude i have a +6dnet vesper almost full atribute and i get avg x2 or even more dmg than i deal to tank/daggers, and don't say it's supose to be like that cause i tell you right away it's NOT! It's not supose for daggers to hit me with +6 vesper shaper for x2 x3 etc than i do with a +14 ic/f with 2x dualmight passive/active dude... it's not! What your saying :"daggers are suposed to kill archers" thats retail dude in wich archers are made of "paper" to compensate their huge firepower! Here they are Tank/subed! I'm saying ppl who are the bigest noobs i ever saw playing this game are raping full pt's atm, you find that normal? ppl who are the bigest noobs deal 5k dmg atm you find that normal??
Thanks to this bullcrap: OP classes, no mather wich A,B,C, stupid cancels, the fact that archers got butt raped alot in their atk speed made my game time fal down almost 70% and will bring me to a state of complete widraw from l2! So i supose i should thank you Gm's! :D
my point is. You should try to be reasonable and remember most kamalol players when the QQ on forum saying that it wasn't their fault ppl didn't played with 99 suport chars in their clans, bla bla bla kamalol wheren't OP, bla bla bla.... cause you sound exactly like them mate!!
Quote from: k0rina on September 10, 2011, 04:06:10 PM
i Vote to kick and ban alex from x20 this fvcking cheator!!!! >:(
i dunno what you atempted here! If it was some kind of tribute in shape of obeisance to your hero! But, as far as i'm concerned, i'm not talking about, brokie, Alex, Kastro, those guys deserve to pwn cause even though alot of morrons QQ here they are not only about gear!
My problem here is the class/combo, wich alows every avg geared retard to pwn....and it's just wrong Imo!
Quote from: Javardsnegger on September 10, 2011, 04:29:04 PM
i dunno what you atempted here! If it was some kind of tribute in shape of obeisance to your hero! But, as far as i'm concerned, i'm not talking about, brokie, Alex, Kastro, those guys deserve to pwn cause even though alot of morrons QQ here they are not only about gear!
My problem here is the class/combo, wich alows every avg geared retard to pwn....and it's just wrong Imo!
i will give u a bit explanation about the tank class what coming like OP class ... reason : for the first time of DN passiv skill heavy armor mastery work what`s give 45% or was 40%+ enchanted got to 45% deacrising critical dmg what was supose to work long time aego to be hunest now tank`s are real tank not like before vs mage`s deflact magic what`s stop 100% the dmg make the tank also tank vs mages is something what should be normaly aka tank when i hit tank dagger max i deal dmg 1,2k if he dont have at all attributs vs my wepoan i`m spiking about backstab ... light set is same as before coz s not reduseing any dmg and as u know and as i saw evan in light set if is full buffed what i saw in some pvp`s where i was i have not make extim dmg if proper buffed ... count that daggers got nerfed allready on focus power is only 15% if u got cop songs counter critical dude is over 100% drop on the dagger dmg
+ calculate if u have 450 attribut {is not 180 max attribut is 600} dmg drop 100% more so i dont bealive if u have this u will resive bigger dmg then 1 k by dagger who evar is
p.s : evan dagger in draco set with S wepoan full attribut hit same as alex, broki me or who evar is so all is based on the attribut protection we all was heppy the price of vesper is cheep but is a hardar way to make attributs but bealive it or not wort evry money spend it on it
Problem is just Track sold some OP items for money and now we have qq becou after 2/3 days of gracia ppls like alex was runing with vesper dagers + 10 and bows + 15 and sets +6 600 resisst each part ... so we have faked server by gm sorry but is true and pls dont tell me they donate xxxx coins and make self this items ++++ :)
Remember like 2/3 years ago when Track you said smth like "its impossible to buy ++++ weapon or armor u can just donate coins" and now u can buy all for money ....
and yes daggers are not op ... for exmaple on oly when i have greater shield + shield + cov + ogre totem + 300 + atributes resist i got dmg from alex like 3-4k from blows so they are not op sure .... and reuse blows is ... :D
btw i dont care just say how it is now ;d
ps. dagger class are not OP just some "edied" daggers with uber donate skills +30 and weapons + 15 are OP :D
Quote from: qwertyzxc on September 11, 2011, 06:45:19 AM
Problem is just Track sold some OP items for money and now we have qq becou after 2/3 days of gracia ppls like alex was runing with vesper dagers + 10 and bows + 15 and sets +6 600 resisst each part ... so we have faked server by gm sorry but is true and pls dont tell me they donate xxxx coins and make self this items ++++ :)
Remember like 2/3 years ago when Track you said smth like "its impossible to buy ++++ weapon or armor u can just donate coins" and now u can buy all for money ....
and yes daggers are not op ... for exmaple on oly when i have greater shield + shield + cov + ogre totem + 300 + atributes resist i got dmg from alex like 3-4k from blows so they are not op sure .... and reuse blows is ... :D
btw i dont care just say how it is now ;d
ps. dagger class are not OP just some "edied" daggers with uber donate skills +30 and weapons + 15 are OP :D
fuking gm frands srsly
Quote from: Alex on September 11, 2011, 06:50:37 AM
fuking gm frands srsly
f2ck on our serv gm frands/clans sux & dies in 2 hits How's it possible ? xD
Quote from: qwertyzxc on September 11, 2011, 06:45:19 AM
Problem is just Track sold some OP items for money and now we have qq becou after 2/3 days of gracia ppls like alex was runing with vesper dagers + 10 and bows + 15 and sets +6 600 resisst each part ... so we have faked server by gm sorry but is true and pls dont tell me they donate xxxx coins and make self this items ++++ :)
Remember like 2/3 years ago when Track you said smth like "its impossible to buy ++++ weapon or armor u can just donate coins" and now u can buy all for money ....
and yes daggers are not op ... for exmaple on oly when i have greater shield + shield + cov + ogre totem + 300 + atributes resist i got dmg from alex like 3-4k from blows so they are not op sure .... and reuse blows is ... :D
btw i dont care just say how it is now ;d
ps. dagger class are not OP just some "edied" daggers with uber donate skills +30 and weapons + 15 are OP :D
100 - bonus of 10 coins
200 - bonus of 20 coins
300 - bonus of 40 coins
400 - bonus of 50 coins
>>for amounts of 500/600 and more contact me on PM.<<
Again thank you for supporting us, and we will keep improving Nightmare server more and more every day!
Thanks again.
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Quote from: andreww on September 11, 2011, 11:50:20 AM
100 - bonus of 10 coins
200 - bonus of 20 coins
300 - bonus of 40 coins
400 - bonus of 50 coins
>>for amounts of 500/600 and more contact me on PM.<<
Again thank you for supporting us, and we will keep improving Nightmare server more and more every day!
Thanks again.
~ REMEMBER THIS IS ONLY FOR PAYPAL DONATIONS ~
dude u was not donate coins 500/600 u just bought items +++++ not coins just items already enchanted
well in this case best solution is to make max dmg for example fighter/ mage can hit max for 5k and thats it.
Quote from: Peorexo on September 08, 2011, 06:49:39 PM
On official u all right dagger hit hard... BUT THEY TAKE MUCH DMG TOO, good mage was able to few shot him thats why no1 cries about it there... here 98% daggers (80% total oly players) a re dagger/tank what make impossible to kill that way....
Make mage/tank
Quote from: qwertyzxc on September 11, 2011, 06:45:19 AM
Problem is just Track sold some OP items for money and now we have qq becou after 2/3 days of gracia ppls like alex was runing with vesper dagers + 10 and bows + 15 and sets +6 600 resisst each part ... so we have faked server by gm sorry but is true and pls dont tell me they donate xxxx coins and make self this items ++++ :)
Remember like 2/3 years ago when Track you said smth like "its impossible to buy ++++ weapon or armor u can just donate coins" and now u can buy all for money ....
and yes daggers are not op ... for exmaple on oly when i have greater shield + shield + cov + ogre totem + 300 + atributes resist i got dmg from alex like 3-4k from blows so they are not op sure .... and reuse blows is ... :D
btw i dont care just say how it is now ;d
ps. dagger class are not OP just some "edied" daggers with uber donate skills +30 and weapons + 15 are OP :D
So 2-3 blows and you are dead =D.. Good for you =D
stop QQ just make normal set with good atributs thats all
OP is only cancel
i know!! i know !!
NERF GM !!
Quote from: Spelso666 on September 12, 2011, 06:51:30 PM
stop QQ just make normal set with good atributs thats all
OP is only cancel
what mean normal set for u ? 600 resist each part like ur set ?:| its not normal its uber ... normal is 180 for 90% of ppls
Quote from: qwertyzxc on September 13, 2011, 04:10:37 AM
what mean normal set for u ? 600 resist each part like ur set ?:| its not normal its uber ... normal is 180 for 90% of ppls
who said that i have set with 600 atribut each part? :D :D