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Title: GM's of Infinite Nightmare
Post by: anttsor on October 19, 2011, 08:27:07 PM
Okay so I tried to contact TrackZero ingame.
I myself am a very experienced GM, been a GM on big ass servers, aswell as I've had my own server (no worries i wont mention anything that can be seen as advertisement).

I have played on various kinds of servers and met a lot of different staff members.

BUT I HAVE NEVER SEEN A GM LIKE THIS.

TrackZero, I asked you a simple question, that you could just have answered "I don't know" and I would've been atleast informed, but ignoring even though I knew that I had your attention. That's a childish behaviour, I get that you might be busy handling other players or questions. But still, you should always treat players with respect.

Above all, I'm a dedicated player who has donated I don't know how many euros, for a time lenght of 5 years to this server. And you treat me like pure SHIT. I gotta say, I'm very disappointed.
Just because you're a GM doesn't mean that you don't have to respect non-staffed people. Your job is to support us, you failed your job mister.
Title: Re: GM's of Infinite Nightmare
Post by: paypal2 on October 19, 2011, 08:30:26 PM
maybe pm him on messenger? :D
Title: Re: GM's of Infinite Nightmare
Post by: 666VeNoM on October 19, 2011, 08:31:48 PM
Quote from: anttsor on October 19, 2011, 08:27:07 PM
Okay so I tried to contact TrackZero ingame.
I myself am a very experienced GM, been a GM on big ass servers, aswell as I've had my own server (no worries i wont mention anything that can be seen as advertisement).

I have played on various kinds of servers and met a lot of different staff members.

BUT I HAVE NEVER SEEN A GM LIKE THIS.

TrackZero, I asked you a simple question, that you could just have answered "I don't know" and I would've been atleast informed, but ignoring even though I knew that I had your attention. That's a childish behaviour, I get that you might be busy handling other players or questions. But still, you should always treat players with respect.

Above all, I'm a dedicated player who has donated I don't know how many euros, for a time lenght of 5 years to this server. And you treat me like pure SHIT. I gotta say, I'm very disappointed.
Just because you're a GM doesn't mean that you don't have to respect non-staffed people. Your job is to support us, you failed your job mister.

Ok, good to know!

Now what the fvck are you talking about? I cant read minds yet, so it just look like a huge cry topic (another one).

Next time, explain more and cry less.
Title: Re: GM's of Infinite Nightmare
Post by: anttsor on October 19, 2011, 08:44:11 PM
I'm simply asking why they even let him be a GM if he can't do his job properly.
I'm not crying, i'm pointing him out as a bad GM. If he want to bash players, which I saw him do in announcements aswell.
Then he should do it on the test server.

Although this will be impossible to explain to people like you.. fanboys?!
Title: Re: GM's of Infinite Nightmare
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on October 19, 2011, 08:48:22 PM
Quote from: anttsor on October 19, 2011, 08:27:07 PM
Okay so I tried to contact TrackZero ingame.
I myself am a very experienced GM, been a GM on big ass servers, aswell as I've had my own server (no worries i wont mention anything that can be seen as advertisement).

I have played on various kinds of servers and met a lot of different staff members.

BUT I HAVE NEVER SEEN A GM LIKE THIS.

TrackZero, I asked you a simple question, that you could just have answered "I don't know" and I would've been atleast informed, but ignoring even though I knew that I had your attention. That's a childish behaviour, I get that you might be busy handling other players or questions. But still, you should always treat players with respect.

Above all, I'm a dedicated player who has donated I don't know how many euros, for a time lenght of 5 years to this server. And you treat me like pure SHIT. I gotta say, I'm very disappointed.
Just because you're a GM doesn't mean that you don't have to respect non-staffed people. Your job is to support us, you failed your job mister.
a) I am atm in game on EVENT
b) I never got any PM on forum from you
c) You could PM on forum , i reply instantly in real time (if question is normal)
d) Opening a new topic just because i didnt answer you cause im on event?
e) So what if you donated (even i see you 1st time in my life ) ?

So i didnt treat you any different then others because im on event now.
Title: Re: GM's of Infinite Nightmare
Post by: anttsor on October 19, 2011, 08:53:39 PM
And what you should've done was:

a. Explain that you're busy with an event instead of dropping out and totally ignore me.
b. Given me an option to contact you via pm (what If i was a new player and didn't know about the forum?)


Honestly I didn't make a new topic to get your attention. I wanted to point out that you did wrong.
You don't have to admit it,

And if you treat me like you would with any other player, then you should perhaps change the way you treat people :P
Title: Re: GM's of Infinite Nightmare
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on October 19, 2011, 08:55:17 PM
Quote from: anttsor on October 19, 2011, 08:53:39 PM
And what you should've done was:

a. Explain that you're busy with an event instead of dropping out and totally ignore me.
b. Given me an option to contact you via pm (what If i was a new player and didn't know about the forum?)


Honestly I didn't make a new topic to get your attention. I wanted to point out that you did wrong.
You don't have to admit it,

And if you treat me like you would with any other player, then you should perhaps change the way you treat people :P
a.1. I announce IN GAME very  much clearly im on event
b.1. When you log in game (if you dont use l2w) you clearly see 6 LINES OF ANNOUCMENTS with forum link where you can contact me

I did nothing wrong.
Title: Re: GM's of Infinite Nightmare
Post by: 6bIK on October 19, 2011, 09:58:02 PM
Quote from: TrackZero on October 19, 2011, 08:55:17 PM
a.1. I announce IN GAME very  much clearly im on event
b.1. When you log in game (if you dont use l2w) you clearly see 6 LINES OF ANNOUCMENTS with forum link where you can contact me

I did nothing wrong.
track with l2walker u wrong  ;)
Title: Re: GM's of Infinite Nightmare
Post by: qwertyzxc on October 20, 2011, 10:37:10 AM
Quote from: TrackZero on October 19, 2011, 08:48:22 PM
a) I am atm in game on EVENT
b) I never got any PM on forum from you
c) You could PM on forum , i reply instantly in real time (if question is normal)
d) Opening a new topic just because i didnt answer you cause im on event?
e) So what if you donated (even i see you 1st time in my life ) ?

So i didnt treat you any different then others because im on event now.


and im still w8 for your answer about my acc pass,email etc ... send u 2 pms like 2-3 days ago xD
Title: Re: GM's of Infinite Nightmare
Post by: darken on October 20, 2011, 12:59:38 PM
Quote from: TrackZero on October 19, 2011, 08:48:22 PM
c) You could PM on forum , i reply instantly in real time (if question is normal)

disagree

i've pm-ed you with (by my opinion) normal question at September 24, 2011, 08:49:59 pm. still no response.
Title: Re: GM's of Infinite Nightmare
Post by: 666VeNoM on October 20, 2011, 01:22:23 PM
Quote from: anttsor on October 19, 2011, 08:44:11 PM
I'm simply asking why they even let him be a GM if he can't do his job properly.
I'm not crying, i'm pointing him out as a bad GM. If he want to bash players, which I saw him do in announcements aswell.
Then he should do it on the test server.

Although this will be impossible to explain to people like you.. fanboys?!

It just seems u crying cuz u didint get an answer right away from track. That's all.

Mayb if u read announcements you would know what to do. Even if u are a new player u can find on both websites (dragon-network.net and dragon-community.net) a link to our forum. Dont know about u, but when I join a new server/game, first thing I do is search for infos on forum.

And if u start  topic every time a GM dont give u an answer within 2min after u asked something, we will have tons of useless topics, even more than the usual.
Title: Re: GM's of Infinite Nightmare
Post by: anttsor on October 20, 2011, 02:01:54 PM
Quote from: darkcore on October 20, 2011, 01:38:16 PM
GM wont change your diapers

if u was gm in small d1ck server WTF are u doing here if u are sooooooo experienced ¿?

anyway welcome to DN

LiLMayer: - track im 1st !!

TrackZero : -  SO WHAT?

XD





As you might know,, being a GM and playing on the same server isn't that fun, since you have access to everything.
Which will be both corrupted, and tiring.

I enjoy both worlds.
Title: Re: GM's of Infinite Nightmare
Post by: ylim on October 20, 2011, 02:23:30 PM
track dunno u r drunk or new gm got allready rights, but fokin spam on announce every 10sec is foking annoying.
Title: Re: GM's of Infinite Nightmare
Post by: Tinus on October 20, 2011, 02:26:59 PM
Quote from: darkcore on October 20, 2011, 02:16:52 PM
gm cant play on his own server?

PFFFF

most stupid thing ever
very stupid rly
if i had a server and im admin or gm wthver i cannot play bcz some noob QQer player demand it?

so why im gonna had a server if i cannot play only bcz im gm

and also how gm will find bugs if he doesnt play ?

you are rly idiot dude  go back down the stone u came plx


please, if you try to bash someone, try to use some common english instead of this crap!

so....you're the idiot here mate! :-* :-*
Title: Re: GM's of Infinite Nightmare
Post by: PolSilv3r on October 20, 2011, 02:52:44 PM
Quote from: anttsor on October 19, 2011, 08:27:07 PM
Okay so I tried to contact TrackZero ingame.
I myself am a very experienced GM, been a GM on big ass servers, aswell as I've had my own server (no worries i wont mention anything that can be seen as advertisement).

I have played on various kinds of servers and met a lot of different staff members.

BUT I HAVE NEVER SEEN A GM LIKE THIS.

TrackZero, I asked you a simple question, that you could just have answered "I don't know" and I would've been atleast informed, but ignoring even though I knew that I had your attention. That's a childish behaviour, I get that you might be busy handling other players or questions. But still, you should always treat players with respect.

Above all, I'm a dedicated player who has donated I don't know how many euros, for a time lenght of 5 years to this server. And you treat me like pure SHIT. I gotta say, I'm very disappointed.
Just because you're a GM doesn't mean that you don't have to respect non-staffed people. Your job is to support us, you failed your job mister.

Just because you're a DONATOR doesn't mean that you don't have to respect GM(s).

Chill! :)
Title: Re: GM's of Infinite Nightmare
Post by: NiToPaMi on October 20, 2011, 03:11:50 PM
Quote from: DKociak on October 20, 2011, 01:40:44 PM
I wanna be GM!!!!
ME TOOOO
Title: Re: GM's of Infinite Nightmare
Post by: jygh on October 20, 2011, 03:14:04 PM
Quote from: NiToPaMi on October 20, 2011, 03:11:50 PM
ME TOOOO
u ve my vote dude
Title: Re: GM's of Infinite Nightmare
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on October 20, 2011, 03:15:32 PM
Quote from: DKociak on October 20, 2011, 03:13:11 PM
I wanna be GM pliiiisssssssssss choose ME! I will be good and fair GM !!!
By checking your posts/your attitude/and signature i can tell you now , you can be maximum a GM of a test server.
Title: Re: GM's of Infinite Nightmare
Post by: J4cKDan13L on October 20, 2011, 03:20:50 PM
Goddamn don't take a new GM expecially some1 that plays in this server......just bring back Piccy =D
Title: Re: GM's of Infinite Nightmare
Post by: Jamesisko on October 21, 2011, 12:30:52 AM
um, i could take this job (4-5 hours a day). i will think about it.
Title: Re: GM's of Infinite Nightmare
Post by: Furesy on October 21, 2011, 12:36:48 AM
Pick me, I've got experience, loads!

lol

PS: Idiots, without Track this server, heck, the entire network, would've been down years ago, thank Track for extending your life and not making you all fall into premature mass suicide in regards of network going down along with 1/2 of your life's work.
Title: Re: GM's of Infinite Nightmare
Post by: PvtStuka on October 21, 2011, 03:20:07 PM
Quote from: darkcore on October 20, 2011, 02:16:52 PM
gm cant play on his own server?

PFFFF

most stupid thing ever
very stupid rly
if i had a server and im admin or gm wthver i cannot play bcz some noob QQer player demand it?

so why im gonna had a server if i cannot play only bcz im gm

and also how gm will find bugs if he doesnt play ?

you are rly idiot dude  go back down the stone u came plx


It is a matter of experience over the years. Whoever had a GM panel and played in the mean time on another char, never resisted the temptation to help himself or his friends with it, OR (even worse) pimp his class and freaks up others. This is obvious abusement of GM rights, seems like you weren't there when these things happened.
Title: Re: GM's of Infinite Nightmare
Post by: jygh on October 21, 2011, 04:18:51 PM
Quote from: Furesy on October 21, 2011, 12:36:48 AM
Pick me, I've got experience, loads!

lol

PS: Idiots, without Track this server, heck, the entire network, would've been down years ago, thank Track for extending your life and not making you all fall into premature mass suicide in regards of network going down along with 1/2 of your life's work.

furesy u ve experience , u dont ve friends (and u r noob u didnt hit on jazmine), plus u dont play l2 anymore . TRACK MAKE HIM GM !!
Title: Re: GM's of Infinite Nightmare
Post by: PvtStuka on October 21, 2011, 04:24:12 PM
Quote from: darkcore on October 21, 2011, 03:22:15 PM
bla bla bla bla bla bla


/lock   ...

That was constructive, leaving no doubt about your mental capabilities.
Title: Re: GM's of Infinite Nightmare
Post by: PvtStuka on October 21, 2011, 05:03:26 PM
Quote from: darkcore on October 21, 2011, 04:58:21 PM
ohhh  dude  so sry

my brain belongs to me

you should care about yours it seems to be rly empty



Prove it. GMs should not play, I explained why, everyone understands that, or knew about these things since a long time. Did you came up with anything than "bla bla"? So whose mind is empty here?

And don't confuse playing as TESTING things with playing as a FULL TIME PLAYER.
Title: Re: GM's of Infinite Nightmare
Post by: Furesy on October 21, 2011, 05:08:13 PM
Quote from: darkcore on October 21, 2011, 05:07:06 PM
i also play on mine srv  and nobody QQ dude
That's probably because even with edited char and over-enchanted gear you fail to kill varka mobs!
Title: Re: GM's of Infinite Nightmare
Post by: PvtStuka on October 21, 2011, 05:11:41 PM
Quote from: darkcore on October 21, 2011, 05:07:06 PM
look  if you dont like a server where GM play
why you dont get the hell out of here?

i also play on mine srv  and nobody QQ dude

thats pretty stupid to cry about GM PLAY ON SRV  THIS SRV SUXX

man  fck off

i rly preffer srv where GM play
and not where gm never show his face


Christ u are quite a retard, aren't you? Did you even understood what I've said? You are confusing a lot of things with your lonely brain cell...

Let me explain again:
GM as a PLAYER means GM playing in a big clan as a bp/pal or ANYTHING?
GM as an ACTIVE GM means what you wrote, that he is AROUND, LOGGED ON!
GM as a TESTER means GM who makes a char for example trickster to try a certain skill change before he actually implements it!

Please, PLEASE tell me you understand it...

Or.. I'm asking ANYONE else who reads this. Do I sound confusing and the problem is with me?
Title: Re: GM's of Infinite Nightmare
Post by: Furesy on October 21, 2011, 05:14:19 PM
Quote from: darkcore on October 21, 2011, 05:10:01 PM
i dont farm on varka

????

you are more or less stupid than paypal2


You just ruined the hope of my lifelong quest of encountering intelligent life forms on DN forums :(

Quote from: PvtStuka on October 21, 2011, 05:11:41 PM
Or.. I'm asking ANYONE else who reads this. Do I sound confusing and the problem is with me?
We are part of the problem! We have failed to deal with the problem from the get-go, letting retarded life forms spread among our ranks, now we pay the ultimate price :(
Title: Re: GM's of Infinite Nightmare
Post by: Furesy on October 21, 2011, 05:19:33 PM
Quote from: darkcore on October 21, 2011, 05:17:45 PM
ohh  poor Furesy

here  take a cookie  :)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_W9Nv-X4TrJw/Sw_9587vDNI/AAAAAAAAAQA/osg4FXN1Oc4/s1600/chocolate_chip_cookie.jpg)
Amazing, you found that all by yourself?
Title: Re: GM's of Infinite Nightmare
Post by: Furesy on October 21, 2011, 05:28:40 PM
Quote from: darkcore on October 21, 2011, 05:25:23 PM

specially baked for you

XD
How nice! In that case; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otCpCn0l4Wo&ob=av2e

!
Title: Re: GM's of Infinite Nightmare
Post by: Furesy on October 21, 2011, 05:35:28 PM
Quote from: darkcore on October 21, 2011, 05:33:33 PM

hehehe nice nice

let me take you bit more in past

where things was better

http://youtu.be/Q8Tiz6INF7I

hope u like  : P
Classic!
Title: Re: GM's of Infinite Nightmare
Post by: Voodoo on October 21, 2011, 05:41:47 PM
Quote from: darkcore on October 21, 2011, 05:13:56 PM

do me a favor

jump into the nearest lake and drown yourself until ur dead

i beg u do it

pls! 

: D

(http://m.blog.hu/to/toryttopreng/image/better_argument_cat.jpg)
Title: Re: GM's of Infinite Nightmare
Post by: 666VeNoM on October 21, 2011, 05:46:02 PM
whoever played on 15x know that being GM and play at same time dont work well.

As much as you say "I will not give items or help my friends", eventually, you will. Old players (and even new players) know about corrupt GMs on 15x. They did a lot of sh1t, like create edited chars to go sieges, give items to ally friends, summon epics on hidden places so only ally could kill and so on.

I'm not saying we can't trust on ppl being GMs and playing, Im just saying we cant trust ppl at all  ;D That's why I agree with track rules of being GM or being player. He want to avoid future headaches.
Title: Re: GM's of Infinite Nightmare
Post by: PvtStuka on October 21, 2011, 05:48:25 PM
Quote from: 666VeNoM on October 21, 2011, 05:46:02 PM
whoever played on 15x know that being GM and play at same time dont work well.

As much as you say "I will not give items or help my friends", eventually, you will. Old players (and even new players) know about corrupt GMs on 15x. They did a lot of sh1t, like create edited chars to go sieges, give items to ally friends, summon epics on hidden places so only ally could kill and so on.

I'm not saying we can't trust on ppl being GMs and playing, Im just saying we cant trust ppl at all  ;D That's why I agree with track rules of being GM or being player. He want to avoid future headaches.

Dude, this is what I was explaining over and over, but gave up.
Title: Re: GM's of Infinite Nightmare
Post by: Furesy on October 21, 2011, 05:50:02 PM
Quote from: 666VeNoM on October 21, 2011, 05:46:02 PM
whoever played on 15x know that being GM and play at same time dont work well.

As much as you say "I will not give items or help my friends", eventually, you will. Old players (and even new players) know about corrupt GMs on 15x. They did a lot of sh1t, like create edited chars to go sieges, give items to ally friends, summon epics on hidden places so only ally could kill and so on.

I'm not saying we can't trust on ppl being GMs and playing, Im just saying we cant trust ppl at all  ;D That's why I agree with track rules of being GM or being player. He want to avoid future headaches.
But... But... But! Those days were the best days of x15 server :(
Title: Re: GM's of Infinite Nightmare
Post by: reddragonjr on October 21, 2011, 05:53:57 PM
Quote from: Furesy on October 21, 2011, 05:50:02 PM
But... But... But! Those days were the best days of x15 server :(
o.O Oi Furesy! Long time not seen you ...well since your acc disappeared :D Wb to the network !
Title: Re: GM's of Infinite Nightmare
Post by: Furesy on October 21, 2011, 05:55:45 PM
Quote from: reddragonjr on October 21, 2011, 05:53:57 PM
o.O Oi Furesy! Long time not seen you ...well since your acc disappeared :D Wb to the network !
Hi :D I'm just here for a day or two, then I'll be gone once more! Just checking on the lovely DN :D
Title: Re: GM's of Infinite Nightmare
Post by: reddragonjr on October 21, 2011, 06:28:07 PM
Quote from: Furesy on October 21, 2011, 05:55:45 PM
Hi :D I'm just here for a day or two, then I'll be gone once more! Just checking on the lovely DN :D
Well glad to see your ok.Gl on your journey mate  :D