DAmage reduction PVP

[Alex]

make 99% reduction - everybody will play daggers and even new players will have a chance to win, thats how pro server should look! xD

[zule88]

i think meybe make something like this

(http://img511.imageshack.us/i/asfsad.jpg/) reckless faith

and skill explanation something like this :


more people u have in party bigger level of this buff 9who would work like toggle but passive so he does not remove other buffs or could be canceled

Char w/o party does not have this buff

2 ppl in party -  buff lvl 1 does not decrease pvp dmg   (keep ordinary damage reduction we allready have)
3 ppl in party -  buff lvl 2 decrease entire party pvp damage up to 2 %  ( this bonus will be extra on bonus we allready got so if 33 % +2 % =  35 % or 33 % and 2 % on those 33 % but than this new damage modifier should be more than 2 % )
4 ppl in party -  buff lvl 3 decrease entire party pvp damage up to 4 %
5 ppl in party -  buff lvl 4 decrease entire party pvp damage up to 6 %
6 ppl in party -  buff lvl 5 decrease entire party pvp damage up to 8 %
7 ppl in party -  buff lvl 6 decrease entire party pvp damage up to 10 %
8 ppl in party -  buff lvl 7 decrease entire party pvp damage up to 12 %
9 ppl in party -  buff lvl 8 decrease entire party pvp damage up to 14 %

to prevent some exploits it would be like 1 minut last buff and every minut it will auto rebuff so when u leave party if u had 1321234 chars inside and full buffs u will still get damage reduction

with this  we would have longers mass pvpes ( not that much longer mass pvpes but longer) 
who will come with full party to kill 2-3 guy they will have disadvantage 
u dont nerf character and class for longer pvp, u nerf party and power of zerg, so if u are dagger or dunno w/e other char and u want go solo pvp u are not nerfed .
this reduction would be for pvp only so pve is intact

[IvolveR]

i think meybe make something like this

(http://img511.imageshack.us/i/asfsad.jpg/) reckless faith

and skill explanation something like this :


more people u have in party bigger level of this buff 9who would work like toggle but passive so he does not remove other buffs or could be canceled

Char w/o party does not have this buff

2 ppl in party -  buff lvl 1 does not decrease pvp dmg   (keep ordinary damage reduction we allready have)
3 ppl in party -  buff lvl 2 decrease entire party pvp damage up to 2 %  ( this bonus will be extra on bonus we allready got so if 33 % +2 % =  35 % or 33 % and 2 % on those 33 % but than this new damage modifier should be more than 2 % )
4 ppl in party -  buff lvl 3 decrease entire party pvp damage up to 4 %
5 ppl in party -  buff lvl 4 decrease entire party pvp damage up to 6 %
6 ppl in party -  buff lvl 5 decrease entire party pvp damage up to 8 %
7 ppl in party -  buff lvl 6 decrease entire party pvp damage up to 10 %
8 ppl in party -  buff lvl 7 decrease entire party pvp damage up to 12 %
9 ppl in party -  buff lvl 8 decrease entire party pvp damage up to 14 %

to prevent some exploits it would be like 1 minut last buff and every minut it will auto rebuff so when u leave party if u had 1321234 chars inside and full buffs u will still get damage reduction

with this  we would have longers mass pvpes ( not that much longer mass pvpes but longer) 
who will come with full party to kill 2-3 guy they will have disadvantage 
u dont nerf character and class for longer pvp, u nerf party and power of zerg, so if u are dagger or dunno w/e other char and u want go solo pvp u are not nerfed .
this reduction would be for pvp only so pve is intact

except that we WANT ppl to go pvp with a TEAM not solo. This is a mmorpg not an RPG

[zule88]

except that we WANT ppl to go pvp with a TEAM not solo. This is a mmorpg not an RPG

dude u will still pwn .... cos not only u will have that nerf... this does not kill partys, just reduce pvp dmg if u are in full party, so does enemy party . instead of 1 shot all u will not 2 shot all.... but hey 1 shot / kill all is far better after all people payed to drake for that ...

[Alex]

except that we WANT ppl to go pvp with a TEAM not solo. This is a mmorpg not an RPG

no worriez u'll just need 4v1 instead of 3v1 to win.

doubt we'll get it but good idea i think!

[Luthiels]

The best thing that could be done to balance things again would be another server wipe 
everybody pvp with homunkulus again...

[greg270]

best solution is dont touch anything, and keap server as much asame like official how it is possible
but is DN so its imposible


have hope that gracia final will NEVER come here, most ppl would like c4 or interlude server
that was best times:)

[SyD]

The problem is here still the bugged attribute system+not enough buff slots!

[andreas32]

now guys look on archers hit 5-6k hits on fully buffed songed nukers /helers

I guess :You were on A grade robe unbuffed and some archer with IB+Att hitted you for this dmg and now you say this.
Else there are no words to explain how sorry i feel about you.......it's totally abnormal.

[WscieklyWaz]

Stupid post, ask ur friends how to buff and stop spam with "another bright idea".
Archers hit you for 6k? you must be rly n44b, 2,5k on me with maj light + chbuff vs fully buffed archer + bj + ic+9. I dont think its much. Mages damage is funny if u know how to buff urself, same to dagger.

So i actually would go for damage increase lol o_0

[Draglide]

Dragon dont need any stupid damage reduction, we can reduce this damage with our own buffs, we just need the gracia's amount of buff slots. Thats all.

MAny times was topics abaut damage reduction in PVP
PVP looks like shot kill , tyr/destros hit 20k, archers icarus bows 6k, sh/ps 5-10k lol
ppl will get more fun when fight will be longer

Use any heal skill on tyr/destro and automatically his power is decreasing 3 times, moreover probability of critical hit is decreasing 5 times, Whats strange that archers in icarus bow(S80 weapon) are hittin u while u have, probably A grade robe... Damn ppl what do u think, u will play until end of the world in that DC robe set? Buy DNET robe, insert attribute stones/jewels in this and u will automaticaly see lower damage, much lower. Moreover i even dont gettin hits like u wroted on my bp/wc in A grade robe so im sure u even dont have full buff when u get that damage, if u're buffed fully for damage it doesnt mean u're buffed at all. There are also defense buffs, and buffs decreasing damage from criticals/elements what are not included to yourp/def m/def stat, but thats decreasing damage too.

For example chant of protection is decreasing damage from critical damage (also blows) by 30%, song of windstorm is decreasing damage from arrows by 30%. If u use it, hits what u're receving are automatically decreased by 50%~ Also if u will fight versus mages, its enought if u use elemental protection(from pp) and song of elemental (from sws), also if u fight only versus mage use magnus. All these buffs decrease damage what u receiving from mages by about 50% too, also add to that dynasty jewelery set +3 instead of tateo and defensive attributes on even 4 lvl. So hits u receiving is decreased by about 65% Also when they repair attribute system mages start shout for INCREASE the damage pvp, random mages i mean, cuz good mages will find another way to increase it, like another compilation of buffs or get better equipment.

What a damn poem writer I'am lol.

[Fildonka]

+1 drag for this post. Some noobs mayby learn something and stop to cry.
Also agree with increasing buff slots. We have atributes like in gracia (lev 9 instead of 4) so we should get gracia buff slots to protect against them