Your dagger experience (maybe a GM/coder can explain?)

[Dag]

startin some little test here and there about dyes/weapon etc

Blows land rate: affected by?

Damage on blows: affected by?

about damage :
till now i can say for sure that the P atk doesn't make a shit (might, great might pof or crit damage related like death wisp etcetc)
AS+10 vs DD+MM+3:   damage 1200-1300 vs 1200-1300
And as reflex also the +STR or - STR has no relfex (tested on blows with +4 STR or - 5 STR: always same damage)
(ps: also using or not Soulshot doesn't affect it ..... +100 dmg on B or on S weapon, nothin more)

What influence blow LAND rate?
For now i can say FOR SURE the lvl difference
to have some fun i tested around 100-120 mob lvl 40-50
it was like a oneshot party
i can say at least a 85% blows landed (and high % of lethal )
PS: demon mm had better landing rate than AS.... what a news

abouth Lethal landing rate: well this is simple the theory that they Should be based on str (but honestly i prefer to make 10 succesflul blow than one succesful lethal.... lethal is funny fjust from tim eto time)


but wold be nice , due the fact we are Dnet and so custom, to know WHAT affect WHAT
maybe Drake putted blows landrate MEN based. ok. or on char name. well, ok again.
just to have clear ideas.
magic crit is WIT. ok.
Matk / curses is INT vs MEN. ok
Crit damage skill on fighter just p atk based? ooook

and us?

tnx

Ps: notice i didn't asked anything about lethals. if anyone has the lethal formula, nice for him and keep it for yourself

[kidicarus]

Well Dex should effect landrate if im not misstaken. Mb it effects lethals aswell..... but i think the only way of knowing for sure on DN is finding a peacefull place and just test a few thousand blows on your own.

[Dag]

Well Dex should effect landrate if im not misstaken. Mb it effects lethals aswell..... but i think the only way of knowing for sure on DN is finding a peacefull place and just test a few thousand blows on your own.

problem is that u can test something u know exist

FE: if i say MEN influences curse land....u can test it (and how much +/- MEN influences it)

if u don't know WHAT is the key, u can't even start

[Dag]

dagers are OP chars in HB,nothing more to say,yust watch how much that lethal hax shit skill lands.

pls don't spam this post and also...read it before
i m not interested at all in lethal.

[TomekAlmighty]

Get yourself -5 dex dyes and try lots of blows and than try it again with +5 dex dyes and you will see if it depends on dex  

And the dammage difference between b grade and s grade is probably becouse S grade weapons have +pvp dammage...

[thehunted]

STR neither has an effect on Critical Stab Rate. I tested it so that the difference in STR and CON were the only variables. Dex/Equip/Buffs/Position was exactly the same. I tested -9 STR vs +5 STR. During my test i also noticed Deadly Blow is not able to do a Critical Stab anymore.

[Dag]

Get yourself -5 dex dyes and try lots of blows and than try it again with +5 dex dyes and you will see if it depends on dex 

And the dammage difference between b grade and s grade is probably becouse S grade weapons have +pvp dammage...

tested
no difference between blows from B or S + SA
1200/1300 vs 1200/1300

[TomekAlmighty]

tested
no difference between blows from B or S + SA
1200/1300 vs 1200/1300

Crit dammage SA doesnt have any effect on blows? O.o

I guess than might mortal is ftw! xD

[Dag]

Crit dammage SA doesnt have any effect on blows? O.o

I guess than might mortal is ftw! xD

crit damage work on crit , so must be a crit damage (succesful blow isn a succesful crit, the crit will be from backstab when multiplies the damage)

btw

on AS i have haste

[Chicks]

startin some little test here and there about dyes/weapon etc

Blows land rate: affected by?

Damage on blows: affected by?

about damage :
till now i can say for sure that the P atk doesn't make a shit (might, great might pof or crit damage related like death wisp etcetc)
AS+10 vs DD+MM+3:   damage 1200-1300 vs 1200-1300
And as reflex also the +STR or - STR has no relfex (tested on blows with +4 STR or - 5 STR: always same damage)
(ps: also using or not Soulshot doesn't affect it ..... +100 dmg on B or on S weapon, nothin more)

What influence blow LAND rate?
For now i can say FOR SURE the lvl difference
to have some fun i tested around 100-120 mob lvl 40-50
it was like a oneshot party
i can say at least a 85% blows landed (and high % of lethal )
PS: demon mm had better landing rate than AS.... what a news

abouth Lethal landing rate: well this is simple the theory that they Should be based on str (but honestly i prefer to make 10 succesflul blow than one succesful lethal.... lethal is funny fjust from tim eto time)


but wold be nice , due the fact we are Dnet and so custom, to know WHAT affect WHAT
maybe Drake putted blows landrate MEN based. ok. or on char name. well, ok again.
just to have clear ideas.
magic crit is WIT. ok.
Matk / curses is INT vs MEN. ok
Crit damage skill on fighter just p atk based? ooook

and us?

tnx

Ps: notice i didn't asked anything about lethals. if anyone has the lethal formula, nice for him and keep it for yourself

we defenitly need the formula ... cuz its a necessity to fix it its not as pointless as return there, its a 1 hit kill wtvr the hp u got. My idea is to set the lethal to half damage at each letal (so u cant , theoricly, hit 0) and that way its still a good skill but not as OP as this. Remove all CP and half hp is well enougth

but for the rest I guess its dex.

[Onionis]

why every one thing that CD in daggers give u more dmg..... its not c4 when every blow was a Critical HIT( in c4 ur blows was 200 dmg better) in HB we have blows and critical blows so SA CD works only when u have Critical BLow .......
so atm MM ftw

[Ziomek26]

I was test dyes and i was see diferent str+5 and -5 but maby i was wrong, i also see diferent with others wepons
dmg from blows have more power with buff for crit power ( DW, fire, cat buff, cov crit dmg sa, focus power and fun start^^ )
btw avery 1 blow is critical hit ( use blow on mob/npc w/o death whisper>se dmg, use death whisper>see smg xD ) if u se
U use lethal blow
CRITICAL HIT!!
123124123 dmg
it is same as critical on glad or tyr becouse dmg are only 2 times better (on full buff it should be w/o crit 100 dmg with crit 1000 dmg xD )

ps: if str have no power on daggers make dye dex+5 str-5 and con+4 str-4, test ur POWER and show us results