Your dagger experience (maybe a GM/coder can explain?)

[Sephiroth]

alt all
stop this flame/useless spam

we are not talkin about what weapon what equip watta fuk is better or not

we are simply talkin and searching formula for blow rate

here we don't give a fuk if is better dyna heavy for th/pal or cd vs haste
go spam another post pls
or better

log your th, pw, aw and make some damn test !!!!!

Flame/useless post?...lol

If u want formula,ask for it,check urself,or w/e(for what the hell u want it?,that's useless to know),but don't tell me that my post was useless,even less in a dagger thread.Apart,all is'bout luck,u'd need to make 384723 tests...

[J4cKDan13L]

Flame/useless post?...lol

If u want formula,ask for it,check urself,or w/e(for what the hell u want it?,that's useless to know),but don't tell me that my post was useless,even less in a dagger thread.Apart,all is'bout luck,u'd need to make 384723 tests...

U are a moron =-DDDDDD

that's explain the "LONELY" under your avatar =-D


ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Dag]

U are a moron =-DDDDDD

that's explain the "LONELY" under your avatar =-D


ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

and said by a mage
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[Sephiroth]

U are a moron =-DDDDDD

that's explain the "LONELY" under your avatar =-D


ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Look at urself,u've posted to say this bs...make a constructive post mofo.

[Dag]

well at this moment (till infy down)
th lvl 81 no buff (just haste)

all from back of target

dex 34 + angel slayer
deadly blow: succes rate 70% (test made 200 blows)

dex 34 + DD+MM
deadly blow : succes rate 80% (test made 200 blows)

tested also with same setup + CRITICAL BLOW BUFF (the one u get from critical blow skill)
seems strange to me but during this buff rate seems goes lower
on 200 blows (100 with as and 100 with DD) i got
65 % succes with AS
70% with DD

next try:
with DEX lowered to 27

[thehunted]

How come it'll make big difference since it increases P.Atack during a Critical Atack,and daggers aren't based on P.Atack.
Checked dmg with +CD and is higher on normal Blows,but didn't check vs a player.

With the right setup and skills *hint hint*, AS haste is pretty awesome.

[Grenix]

I dont have any test results, but Angel Slayer haste why is it any good in Hellbound?
Skill reuse isnt affected by attack speed right? So in fact what is the point in having more attack speed, all you need to do is haveing a good blowing rate/ damage rate?

[Dag]

skill reuse IS still affected by

test it with any blow with or without buff like haste

thereare skill that has been modified (zealot-->longer reuse) or mirage (atk speed reuse moved to cast speed reuse)
just those

[zthrx]

I dont have any test results, but Angel Slayer haste why is it any good in Hellbound?
Skill reuse isnt affected by attack speed right? So in fact what is the point in having more attack speed, all you need to do is haveing a good blowing rate/ damage rate?

reuse is affected by atk speed, miss c4 where on 1.9k - 2.3k you had no reuse, spammming blows all the time till the end of the mana <3
(and no animation  )

With the right setup and skills *hint hint*, AS haste is pretty awesome.

sure in c4, where like I said, you could reach 1.6-19k atk speed = ur reuse skills was rly nice (you can reach 1.6 now with hero skills)

in HB you can get fullbuffed 1.45k and on PP 1.3k so it's better to have good crits now instead of atk speed.

[Sephiroth]

reuse is affected by atk speed, miss c4 where on 1.9k - 2.3k you had no reuse, spammming blows all the time till the end of the mana <3
(and no animation  )

sure in c4, where like I said, you could reach 1.6-19k atk speed = ur reuse skills was rly nice (you can reach 1.6 now with hero skills)

in HB you can get fullbuffed 1.45k and on PP 1.3k so it's better to have good crits now instead of atk speed.

Guess I could reach 1,8k A.Speed on dagger thx to Flu.
Good crits? Do u really crit that often? So I'm unlucky...

[TomekAlmighty]

reuse is affected by atk speed, miss c4 where on 1.9k - 2.3k you had no reuse, spammming blows all the time till the end of the mana <3
(and no animation  )

sure in c4, where like I said, you could reach 1.6-19k atk speed = ur reuse skills was rly nice (you can reach 1.6 now with hero skills)

in HB you can get fullbuffed 1.45k and on PP 1.3k so it's better to have good crits now instead of atk speed.

Maybe it would be better to have an haste dagger and some reuse delay buffs where you could spam few blows faster than your target could heal rather than doing a little more dammage. But than you need a pure dagger party since archers dont use those reuse buffs...

(but i can be totally wrong since im not a dagger player )

Can actually someone tell me if your p.attack has an effect on your stab dammage? (pictures plx)

[Furesy]

Can actually someone tell me if your p.attack has an effect on your stab dammage? (pictures plx)

A little, but not really that much.

Damage differs like 100 - 300