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Your dagger experience (maybe a GM/coder can explain?)

Started by Dag, June 18, 2009, 01:54:00 PM

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zthrx

Quote from: Dag on June 22, 2009, 09:18:42 AM
well' now i have some numbers to compare
as soon as possible (it will take some time to land so many skills) i'll test also difference between those setting
no buff (only haste )
th lvl 81 vs ty/wc lvl 81 (i'll put dyes on ty to take him dex-->30 like human basic stat)
dyes : no dyes,      dyes +4str -4dex dynasty heavy to maximize str     , dyes +4dex -4str and dynasty light to maximize dex
DD+MM and AS+H
(fewwww it will take some hours :D)

other suggestion?



dude AS +H suck, it was good in C4 where fullbuffed you had 1.9k atk speed (in tallum 2.3k) (I was using it also)
but now, CD makes big difference on crits in IL-HB

fontalia

Quote from: Dag on June 22, 2009, 11:55:38 AM
AW (str 41 dex 34) + dyna heavy (+2 str) +4dex -4 str----> 39 str 38 dex
vs
Finisterre PW DEX 35, STR 36 +1 dex from maje light ----> 36 str 36dex

AW result: deadly blow from back
Dead_Count: 400
Land_Count: 303 = 75.75%

PW
made:221
landed :150 = 67.87%
Finisteres test have been made in Interlude you can't compare them with my last test cause we don't know if Drake changed something

Dag

mh...yep
btw, your OLD RESULT were made in  IL too right?

just to compare your old/new with fini  old and my nexdays new
ribadiamo che siamo contari a tutte queste cose della parità
PERCHE ????
le donne vogliono la parità sessuale....ma..boia della vigliacca NON SIAMO PARI.
c'è una bella differenza fra tenere aperto il sacco e sbadilarci dentro

PALMIRO SEI UN DIO !!!!
zelig. 23/02/10


Dag

and setup was still the same?

(dyna heavy +4 dex -4 str)

WHY I ASK:
becouse if it's so...

pw with 36 str 36 dex had better chance to land ALL comparet to a aw with 39 str 38 str
ans this is..... DOH
ribadiamo che siamo contari a tutte queste cose della parità
PERCHE ????
le donne vogliono la parità sessuale....ma..boia della vigliacca NON SIAMO PARI.
c'è una bella differenza fra tenere aperto il sacco e sbadilarci dentro

PALMIRO SEI UN DIO !!!!
zelig. 23/02/10

fontalia

Quote from: Dag on June 22, 2009, 02:18:22 PM
and setup was still the same?

(dyna heavy +4 dex -4 str)
I tried a LOT of different setup with TH and AW
600 blow launch for each test
20/03/2009  10:58    <REP>          Archer
24/11/2008  18:14            37 459 BackstabASCD19DEX.txt
18/11/2008  19:59            41 389 BackstabASCD29STR.txt
24/11/2008  19:12            41 342 BackstabASCD39DEX.txt
18/11/2008  19:53            68 349 BackstabASCD48STR.txt
24/11/2008  22:56            36 813 DeadlyBlowASCDDHvy+mortalstrikeSkill.txt
24/11/2008  20:45            33 175 DeadlyBlowASCDDHvy.txt
24/11/2008  21:31            33 785 DeadlyBlowDDMSHvy .txt
25/11/2008  00:10            36 676 DeadlyBlowDDMSHvy+mortalstrikeSkill.txt
25/11/2008  01:32            36 567 DeadlyBlowDDMSHvyafterrelog.txt
20/03/2009  10:57    <REP>          Septembre 09


Septembre09 300 or more blow by test
25/09/2008  18:36            20 881 BackStabMM - DEX30.txt
26/09/2008  19:13            21 607 BackStabMM - no helmet.txt
14/09/2008  04:07            23 032 BackStabMM.txt
25/09/2008  19:03            25 945 BackStabSSCD - DEX30.txt
14/09/2008  04:11            21 882 BackStabSSCD.txt
25/09/2008  19:38            19 726 DeadlyMM - DEX30.txt
26/09/2008  18:32            18 671 DeadlyMM - noHelmet.txt
14/09/2008  04:12            19 784 DeadlyMM.txt
25/09/2008  19:58            17 385 DeadlySSCD - DEX30.txt
26/09/2008  18:51            18 324 DeadlySSCD - noHelmet.txt
14/09/2008  04:14            18 821 DeadlySSCD.txt
15/09/2008  01:51            21 545 GHBackStabSSCD.txt
15/09/2008  01:12            18 149 GHDeadlySSCD.txt
14/09/2008  04:21            21 729 LethalMM.txt
14/09/2008  04:18            20 597 LethalSSCD.txt

Dag

well, if u have those test written somewhere...share :)
have a start to make other test is a good choice
ribadiamo che siamo contari a tutte queste cose della parità
PERCHE ????
le donne vogliono la parità sessuale....ma..boia della vigliacca NON SIAMO PARI.
c'è una bella differenza fra tenere aperto il sacco e sbadilarci dentro

PALMIRO SEI UN DIO !!!!
zelig. 23/02/10

fontalia

Most of them are shared on the forum of course i just need to find the thread if i don't i will share a txt file with all the results (if i am not too lazy :D)

Dag

:) u have 1500 post
search all of them is.... omg :)
if u have saved file ,. rar it and upload :)
ribadiamo che siamo contari a tutte queste cose della parità
PERCHE ????
le donne vogliono la parità sessuale....ma..boia della vigliacca NON SIAMO PARI.
c'è una bella differenza fra tenere aperto il sacco e sbadilarci dentro

PALMIRO SEI UN DIO !!!!
zelig. 23/02/10

Sephiroth

Quote from: zthrx on June 22, 2009, 11:56:14 AM
dude AS +H suck, it was good in C4 where fullbuffed you had 1.9k atk speed (in tallum 2.3k) (I was using it also)
but now, CD makes big difference on crits in IL-HB

How come it'll make big difference since it increases P.Atack during a Critical Atack,and daggers aren't based on P.Atack.
Checked dmg with +CD and is higher on normal Blows,but didn't check vs a player.

Dag

Quote from: Sephiroth on June 22, 2009, 02:55:35 PM
How come it'll make big difference since it increases P.Atack during a Critical Atack,and daggers aren't based on P.Atack.
Checked dmg with +CD and is higher on normal Blows,but didn't check vs a player.
alt all
stop this flame/useless spam

we are not talkin about what weapon what equip watta fuk is better or not

we are simply talkin and searching formula for blow rate

here we don't give a fuk if is better dyna heavy for th/pal or cd vs haste
go spam another post pls
or better

log your th, pw, aw and make some damn test !!!!! :D
ribadiamo che siamo contari a tutte queste cose della parità
PERCHE ????
le donne vogliono la parità sessuale....ma..boia della vigliacca NON SIAMO PARI.
c'è una bella differenza fra tenere aperto il sacco e sbadilarci dentro

PALMIRO SEI UN DIO !!!!
zelig. 23/02/10

fontalia

Quote from: Dag on June 22, 2009, 03:14:00 PM
we are simply talkin and searching formula for blow rate
Check pm i didn't gave ou all the test but you have enought for the moment :p
For the formula try to ask Finisterre he made many test and almost or got it.