1 Word about Dagger since I'm back

[Curtis]

Like I said keep your setups.

And people wonder why a certain TH in nm oly lethals more often than others 

Must be luck!!

Yes in official lethal and critical blow is affected by str (thats why one of the oldest and best th on teon - squeez - use only dyes -5 con / +5 dex).

I dont know how it looks here but guys that says it is not affected by str should check this one more time.

Also now (gracia final part) there isnt such think like lethal blow. Now there is only half kill (it take down only cp).

Zthrx says true. Blow for 1k on full buff is just big lol

Sry for my great english

[dusaka]

-mage has almost same p. def
- same archers
- almost no1 plays a dagger, me feel like orphan at the battlefield....
- me fullbuffed blows fullbuffed mage for 600- >1k, same archers... L.A.M.E talking about fact that both attack from distance
- lame that dagger makes SAME DMG or LESS as a Melee class
- lethal is kinda joke now- useless
(fadeaway: Lethal aint a joke to me, it lands pretty much and trust me it doesnt feel tight when ur on 4,5k p def and 15k hp and all goes away with 1 fcking blow ) - Ye I was chasing  Funkeh like 2 min at pvp, and made 1 - o.n.e. lethal on him. I knoe its mage/tank but wtf hitting mage/tank for 400-900 is more than a lame joke.... Daggers should make rly more dmg to be able kill a mage. Mage has his own debuffs skills to safe his ass, but now needs to be fullbuffed and reach almost same p.def as dagger to be almost impossible to kill....

and my stats aren't pretty good beeing shitload buffed...
- Hate aura is a shiit now
- Low dmg
- Arrest landingrate is a bullshit coz most of ppl has resist
- agression is weak, doesn't work well, every1 can escape from that
- crit wounds is a joke

in fact almost of my skills are pretty USELESS, Is even useless to make UD coz I do shiit with my bow, and 90% of ppl went out of range and easily pwn me...

playing a dagger nowdays is a one big joke...   it's just a fact, I wrote a facts of a normal dagger not some faken uber mutant...

and my stats are lame that typical mage has similar I think:
I'm using here Guard Stance, that's why 2.8k def, normally I don't use it often coz it takes TONS of mana same VS, and after couple blows I'm out of mana, and the funniest part is that even mage is so "hard" that I should have like 20k mana to kill one....

so sadly but true

[SettoJke]

Stop bitchin' dks, my TH was always nerfed as hell, every new update, its nerfed again.

[lucifsg]

fix curse fear, mass fear, mass poison i wanna use em !
its sad to have tons of skills and 1/2 not working

[cristianvernal]

actually, my th rarely lands an instant kill.... playin the same setup as always (+5dex/+4con//-9str).... never tested if lethals or instants r affected by str.... but rlly is not that important.


i doubt some1 do smth about this.... every mages will start to cry if daggerist gets improved...

[Endorama]

also increase crit rate of blows.

[Shreed]

I play on TH/SWS from time to time. I never "own" and for sure iam not pro or even semi-pro daggerist but This figure gives me more joy than any other character I play. I dont give a fnck about archers and their "overpowered" and "ultrafast" bows. coz with my evasion (+some selfbuffs: def.arrow+windstorm, and almost instant UE) they cant hurt me. The same with mages and their o/p skills and landing rate like blizzard etc... even with all this shits on me iam faster than any mage char. So at the outset that it does not look like another QQ topic ... But for sure i cant understand why i have less than half of the mage amount of mana (not to mention the renewal) all skills are twice much more expensive in mana than mage skills and the dmg is the same (ofcourse i dont have self heal) and its look simple: When i use all songs i need (and dences are in party) without clarity iam off from mana. With Clarity is ok but still even with all amount of mana i have, iam able to kill one char (the same rate of gear). 1 vs 1 or even 1 vs 3 (with own bots) is really ok. The problem is when you trying join some mass PvP or Siege coz TH is usuless char.... Its not becosue skills are too much expensive but becouse of dmg(i mean all blows) We dont have the same landing rate as mage or archers ... So why not increase a litlle the demage of blows

[kidicarus]

lol...... Had a long post here but I accidentaly deleted it somehow

Anyway... I gotta agree with Zthrx here the dagger dmg is pathetic. The only time I even bother to defend myself vs a dagger is if theres an AW that has managed to sneak up behind me cause then they can do some dmg.

I think lethals are a dumb part of the game, so I sure hope they won't boost that.

But I don't see why daggers shouldn't be able to crit alot more on blows. I mean gladiators get skillcrits pretty often whilst daggers get them like once a day. And gladiators use way less mana and they can hit from a distance.

I tested a small wellbuffed "party" with me and Leo on th/pp and th/wlk +buffbots and when we focused our attacks on the same target the robe users go down pretty quick, but as a single dagger on 1 target you will only kill the weakest of robe users and even that will drain all your MP.

[FadeAway]

lol...... Had a long post here but I accidentaly deleted it somehow

Anyway... I gotta agree with Zthrx here the dagger dmg is pathetic. The only time I even bother to defend myself vs a dagger is if theres an AW that has managed to sneak up behind me cause then they can do some dmg.

I think lethals are a dumb part of the game, so I sure hope they won't boost that.

But I don't see why daggers shouldn't be able to crit alot more on blows. I mean gladiators get skillcrits pretty often whilst daggers get them like once a day. And gladiators use way less mana and they can hit from a distance.

I tested a small wellbuffed "party" with me and Leo on th/pp and th/wlk +buffbots and when we focused our attacks on the same target the robe users go down pretty quick, but as a single dagger on 1 target you will only kill the weakest of robe users and even that will drain all your MP.

All about dyes, i won't say more

[kidicarus]

All about dyes, i won't say more

So STR influenses crit rate here? Cause on my Dex setup im not getting any

Either way.... Im noob on daggers since I only play it every now and then, but even "pro" daggers hit me for shit dmg 400-800... And I feel a little sorry for them. Aaaaanyway im always up for a test if you care to proove me wrong fade

[MisiekIII]

What  can i say playing 4 years PW/ES = Give back DMG of blows , make stronger pets , incarse critical blows rate , nerf lethals and its will be balanced.

ps - its not QQ i still can powned 80% ppl on  this server

[Dag]

Here you go :

 Blows land rate: affected by? Damage on blows: affected by?
29.6.2009 г.  19:04:44  ~Drake  αηємσηια  by the i_death vulnerability
29.6.2009 г.  19:04:52  ~Drake  αηємσηια  by base is a 0 value so there is no alteration
29.6.2009 г.  19:05:15  ~Drake  αηємσηια  there are few skills that (undocumented on clientside) gives protection and some others that gives vulnerability
29.6.2009 г.  19:05:30  ~Drake  αηємσηια  so the 0 value (modifier) gets negative or positive (bonus/malus)
29.6.2009 г.  19:06:11  αηємσηια  ~Drake  said in simple way ?  
29.6.2009 г.  19:06:47  ~Drake  αηємσηια  uhm
29.6.2009 г.  19:07:05  ~Drake  αηємσηια  simply is not based by a stat
29.6.2009 г.  19:07:18  ~Drake  αηємσηια  that is shown to player
29.6.2009 г.  19:07:37  ~Drake  αηємσηια  but from an hidden stat that is the "death" element
29.6.2009 г.  19:07:44  ~Drake  αηємσηια  like say "fire, water, wind..."