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Started by Corpsse, April 01, 2012, 11:13:11 PM

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Corpsse

Quote from: Phonex on April 02, 2012, 12:48:46 AM
im tank/dagger i had pvp vs yoshimo and revell lots of times, some times i win some times i lose, same when i play vs  other classes, even akaneII from WP tryied to kill me today and i was not even buffed, he hited me hard but i manage my self to reach the castle,

You made me laugh with that part...
How are dagger classes nerfed? I'm curious...
And how do you expect mages to run from dagger classes?
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Kastro

Quote from: Phonex on April 02, 2012, 12:48:46 AM
well i have nothing against m4djer, and we already are nerfed in daggers, now if u read what gm said, they are not even with cov,  and daggers are not OP, im tank/dagger i had pvp vs yoshimo and revell lots of times, some times i win some times i lose, same when i play vs  other classes, even akaneII from WP tryied to kill me today and i was not even buffed, he hited me hard but i manage my self to reach the castle, what i mean is that u need to learn to play each char, if u are archer then hit and run, if u are mage hit and run, if u are close range class then hit and dont run.

About other sh!ts, some tank classes have skills like judgment that reduces crit -30% and -20 pts to close range weapons, so plz dont tell me that OP sh!ts, now if he is well buffed he will never receive judge damage, his char is not good equiped and buffed, and i know that cuz i hit mage/tank for max 2k, so plz dont try to fuk us more

m4jer was playing sr/tk now went on he/pal  not so big difrent just 1k more p.atack and pal w.o cubics  as for good def chars are realy awesome bouth of them dmg from archers is  at all low in GF coz of alot decriseing critical buffs and heavy armor mastery  working  for the first time in our server so each char who hiting tank what his dmg is based on citical power  his dmg suxs on tanks so logical so simple to be undestand it ... but like allways somone must spam forum to not be forbiden  :)

Javardsnegger

Hiting for 128 crit dmg with 6.2k patk?? Hit an run?? LOl rly LOL

Phonex I would be rly happy if i could hit them for 800-900 dmg trust me.

Hiting the same person for 300dmg (after his sws (song of windstorm/ dance of bladesorm etc are over) with ic/f+15 while having 9k patk? hit and run??

Have it your way!

@Dule, bro, i know u'r skilled and u surly know more than me but regarding mentalshield u teached me nothing, i had just arrived and had no ppbuffs yet...


Just to be sure one more time, for gm's. Problem was not the dmg they gave me but the dmg we gave them!

I wish the other ppl would post here aswell but they're telling me ppl's stupidity overcomes any logic... So i will take the smartest action and stop this bs!

GG

+small edit to dule, if i switch to sword (almost 4k patk) dmg goes down from 300dmg to 200dmg, so problem is not just deflect arrow imo.
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Phonex

Quote from: Corpsse on April 02, 2012, 12:55:19 AM
You made me laugh with that part...
How are dagger classes nerfed? I'm curious...
And how do you expect mages to run from dagger classes?

use ur feet to run xD, and yes daggers are bit nerfed, check old updates and ull see. ppl complain about  OP critical power and critical chance, then we got nerfed, they they complain about cancel, then about stun, and u know what happened to those skills.

So plz dont laugh if u cant even stand 10 sec in pvp.  :o
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Kastro

Quote from: Corpsse on April 02, 2012, 12:55:19 AM
You made me laugh with that part...
How are dagger classes nerfed? I'm curious...
And how do you expect mages to run from dagger classes?

how dagger got herf  lets start .... bluff is not shock attack anymore , switch ,trick same all MEN based  wich mean 1 mental shild bb of this skills 2nd  focus power is not dealing full power is 20-30 % less  ... light armor users gethign more dmg on higher evasion is no more good set up for dagger ... need more??

how mage can run from dagger?? let see do u have any outher skills from mage on ur bars or only attack magic? stuns  slows root  mana burn  cancel doom anchor  did i miss something?

Phonex

Quote from: Javardsnegger on April 02, 2012, 12:59:38 AM
Hiting for 128 crit dmg with 6.2k patk?? Hit an run?? LOl rly LOL

Phonex I would be rly happy if i could hit them for 800-900 dmg trust me.

Hiting the same person for 300dmg (after his sws (song of windstorm/ dance of bladesorm etc are over) with ic/f+15 while having 9k patk? hit and run??

Have it your way!

@Dule, bro, i know u'r skilled and u surly know more than me but regarding mentalshield u teached me nothing, i had just arrived and had no ppbuffs yet...


Just to be sure one more time, for gm's. Problem was not the dmg they gave me but the dmg we gave them!

I wish the other ppl would post here aswell but they're telling me ppl's stupidity overcomes any logic... So i will take the smartest action and stop this bs!

GG

fuka u need to read first post xD haha its cuz topic was about  nerf dagger, not about the damage u do on them xD thats why the complain started :P, after that u changed the theme adding the damage you did to them xD thats why all this sh!t got confused :D
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Javardsnegger

Okay, more ppl where there, agree about this, sadly they don't rly post here (for obvious reasons) but more screens will go to gideon and Track...

Better ones ofc...

As for me, i told Track what i would do and i stick to it.

Cya guys!

GG
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Di

even i, paper! (Bp/wk) dagger arent a big problem, they are fine at my point of view, ask tristan, even ravell from temp isant big deal, ofc yoshi is stronger dagger atm and his dmg is huge, but just because shock blast + backstab plus from sub...

without yoshimo i would say i can deal with any othe dagger in server, i dont think  they have  focked up dmg, they are pretty fine , u just dont have to be noob, and got good buffs and  not miss the attr of the enemy weapon on ur set ^^

Dont touch daggers, work on more important things, like  enchant robe mastery, smart cube, shirts , and so on, there are several things not working as should, dont touch what is "Ok"


Quote from: ylim on March 28, 2013, 10:19:02 AM
setup with bp/wk only with diego, the best bp/wk in dn others would die easy.

fenrris

Quote from: Di on April 02, 2012, 04:32:01 AM
even i, paper! (Bp/wk) dagger arent a big problem, they are fine at my point of view, ask tristan, even ravell from temp isant big deal, ofc yoshi is stronger dagger atm and his dmg is huge, but just because shock blast + backstab plus from sub...

without yoshimo i would say i can deal with any othe dagger in server, i dont think  they have  focked up dmg, they are pretty fine , u just dont have to be noob, and got good buffs and  not miss the attr of the enemy weapon on ur set ^^

Dont touch daggers, work on more important things, like  enchant robe mastery, smart cube, shirts , and so on, there are several things not working as should, dont touch what is "Ok"

+1 we have more importand problems then Yoshi hit and run tactic.


Just a comepnt regardin runing mages...with yoshi it's not the smartest move to turn back and run and sadly since my LS changed it's no longer fun to fight charging dagers :)

PvtStuka

Quote from: Corpsse on April 02, 2012, 12:55:19 AM
You made me laugh with that part...
How are dagger classes nerfed? I'm curious...
And how do you expect mages to run from dagger classes?

Mages already run faster, or equally fast as daggers (250 speed cap). On my th, with all speed buffs (except zerk and the yellow haste potion), I don't have 250 speed.

How are we nerfed? For example, focus power and focus death was one of the first things that got herfed at last summer. Just like after IL update, daggers were the classes as they are on retail (huge dmg stabs, if they land), so they got nerfed like shit.

Oh and I didn't insult you YET, believe me. U just piss me off in great lenghts. Sometimes I get HUGE dmg inspite of my gear and buffs, yet I never cry for a nerf, not even those classes who never really got nerfed (hello sps/ee-s). I find a way to kill them, simple as that, I adjust. You should do that too.

Astramael      [db/tr]



TiagoRamos

My dmg on some daggers (ofc dagger/tank) while having around  9k p attack is like 120/150 with normal arrows (full buffed ofc) and them too ofc  :P

andreww

Quote from: Corpsse on April 01, 2012, 11:13:11 PM
In my honest oppinion dagger classes should be nerfed atleast a bit. They are obviously OP when combined with tanks/wl on GF.
I don't even need to bring pics, you can look at the server and notice there are atleast 1/3 of the whole community playing dagger/tank classes.
I have no chance of killing a dagger/tank class with lower equipment than me. It's simply hide,  back stab for around 3k, lethal, shadow step, backstab again and boom.
I know it's hard to balance all the classes since it's a substack server that's why i didn't say nerf them big time. Just decrease the power of their skills a bit and the half-kill, lethal rate.

So at the end the all wanted to be like the legendary brokie :) and alex ofc


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