[POLL] Subclass/Noblesse for casual randoms :)

[User]

Hi people of DN!

Little about me - I'm casual, we could say very casual player. I like to come to game whenever I feel like it, sometimes you don't see me ingame for a few days, so as you've guessed right I'm not very good "clan material". What material I am though, it's oly one. I basically go to servers mostly because of oly. Due to my activity, I never achieve the best equips nor I find enough people that could feed me enough, so in 5 year of playing L2, I've been hero how many times, twice? It doesn't matter, I don't care. I just like to play this kind of PvP where true skills appear (in my opinion )

Well you could imagine my disappointed when I saw this post (http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,278370.msg2410869.html#msg2410869):

- All Epic raids (*excluding Orfen and Zaken) have _pvp zone implemented

I've seen this happening many times, many more times than I wanted to. On one side, this is a great thing for large clans to have some PvPs, but on the other, if it's notcompensated with alternative option, it completely cuts fun from solo players who for some reason don't want to or can't get into largest clans on the server.

My suggestion is following:
1) Red Pipette Knife - because of PvP zone at Baium's, chances for getting the knife for solo players ranges from -1% to 0%.
So instead of stabbing Baium, you could kill 500 mobs in FoG instead.
2) Barakiel Staff - pretty much same situation as with RPK, just the chances are much lower (about -10% maybe). Therefore, substitution for Barakiel Staff could be, let's say, 700 mobs from Monastery of Silence.

These numbers and locations are just random thoughts and are subject to change, I just wanted to show you my point :]

/One thing I'd like highlight though - if you're from large clan and you're afraid of too big competition on oly, there's one thing you should know - randoms never become heroes If you don't have party to farm up and friends to help you out there, it's nearly impossible to become one.

That's it, please vote

[User]

Yeah I also think High Five has it solved best, but I was afraid people would think its too easy But yeah, retail H5 option is very viable here!

[djvancho]

i can add a faster respawn of quest golkas 4 hours or something like that

and more quest mobs from begining on 1 st and 2 nd class quests

[nbx]

More people for oly is always a good thing, but pvp zones at epic raids also, so yeah, an alternative option which doesn't change the pvp zones would be good(Barakiel is not an epic raid though, so as far as I know it's not gonna be a pvp zone anyway), but make it hard enough to don't have everybody and their buffer bots with nobelesse after a week or two.

[LadyZENITH]

If i was a casual player I would know that I have no business in sub or noble. If you call yourself casual you simply do not have the time to put there to achieve that. And the same time you still can have a lot of fun with your main char and DNsub, you will also be a PVP capable, retail gives you nothing and even noble does not make you a killing machine. And the amouth of grind to get this on lower rates is trough the roof.

If someone can get that then he/she no longer is a casual player. Maybe neutral or such, but not casual.  I'm for the default settings. No pvp zones. Let the karma and wars and drops fly. I see no benefit in pvp zones, only no karma risk. Especially no benefit for causal players. Cause PVP zone = you can kill them freely no fear of karma. Or did I miss something?

[+GekKey+]

i can add a faster respawn of quest golkas 4 hours or something like that

and more quest mobs from begining on 1 st and 2 nd class quests

Sorry but both are boring options.

Back then on Dnet, when you were a subbed char it meant something. Subclassing was not a a simple thing for your 219389432 buffers and farmer chars like it is now. Subclass was because you played an active char and commited to that char.

[Gonzal]

Prepare your self to farm 6 lunars xD and 1 hellfire QQ

[skitz1312]

Cause PVP zone = you can kill them freely no fear of karma. Or did I miss something?

Yea I'm a bit confused about that question aswell. Does pvp zone means kill=no karma or the old school way fagged - no flagged....you know...the regular pvp shiat?   

[Oo]

Yea I'm a bit confused about that question aswell.

Same here but when I read topic like this I think about

dunno why oO

[unhandledexeption]

I think the boss parts of the quest should be just removed These quest are long and boring, and annoying alone, without the bosses. With them it's even more worse.

[skitz1312]

i asked same thing on different topic and they said No karma.

No karma if I just pk something at raid spot, is so freaking stupid if u ask me. Leave it be as it was, the old fashioned way.If u hit u get flagged, if they hit back u get pvp point, otherwise u get pk point and karma. What's wrong with that system? Admins?

[LadyZENITH]

Yeah, if by "pvp zone" they mean "no karma, no exp loss (or lowered), no risk zone" then I do not want that. Only a true cowards would want that. It benefits none. Not the game, not pvp, not the newbies, none.