just an ideas:
-remove off-hand daggers or remove shield effect from them- reason: after last updates daggers starts to make nice dmg what is lets say fine, but stick to some idea of equal input-output dmg if u get what i mean. In past it wasnt a big deal cause no1 was using evasion and shield def buffs, daggers have huge evasion now so poor archers like me miss a lot anyway, and when u finally hit a target ur making lil bit silly dmg, cause its reduced by an off-hand dagger.
-decres blow land rate in heavy armore- not to much but to make difrence noticable if ur in light and heavy, daggers/tanks well buffed are geting rly low dmg, they can use pow instead of cov since they got nice pdef and shield defense so they running fast enough to get every enemy, so it would make dagger/tanks think if they want to play more as a tanks or killers.
-add some kind of attribute to ol's attacks- as an example take ol/ee who is a sealer/support/and dammage dealer in 1 time, that chars are already strong and imagine what can happend if some1 will finaly make ol/ee in dwarf skin and lvl it up to 85 lvl- possibility to enchante skills so he wont be such a mana hore( even now he have enough mana to win 2v1 nuking, sealing and draining) and possibility to learn forggoten scrolls will make this char just sick
ps: no its not a QQ topic
Quote from: Sali on December 10, 2009, 01:10:59 AM
just an ideas:
-remove off-hand daggers or remove shield effect from them- reason: after last updates daggers starts to make nice dmg what is lets say fine, but stick to some idea of equal input-output dmg if u get what i mean. In past it wasnt a big deal cause no1 was using evasion and shield def buffs, daggers have huge evasion now so poor archers like me miss a lot anyway, and when u finally hit a target ur making lil bit silly dmg, cause its reduced by an off-hand dagger.
-decres blow land rate in heavy armore- not to much but to make difrence noticable if ur in light and heavy, daggers/tanks well buffed are geting rly low dmg, they can use pow instead of cov since they got nice pdef and shield defense so they running fast enough to get every enemy, so it would make dagger/tanks think if they want to play more as a tanks or killers.
-add some kind of attribute to ol's attacks- as an example take ol/ee who is a sealer/support/and dammage dealer in 1 time, that chars are already strong and imagine what can happend if some1 will finaly make ol/ee in dwarf skin and lvl it up to 85 lvl- possibility to enchante skills so he wont be such a mana hore( even now he have enough mana to win 2v1 nuking, sealing and draining) and possibility to learn forggoten scrolls will make this char just sick
ps: no its not a QQ topic
+1 ;)
Quote from: Sali on December 10, 2009, 01:10:59 AM
just an ideas:
-remove off-hand daggers or remove shield effect from them- reason: after last updates daggers starts to make nice dmg what is lets say fine, but stick to some idea of equal input-output dmg if u get what i mean. In past it wasnt a big deal cause no1 was using evasion and shield def buffs, daggers have huge evasion now so poor archers like me miss a lot anyway, and when u finally hit a target ur making lil bit silly dmg, cause its reduced by an off-hand dagger.
-decres blow land rate in heavy armore- not to much but to make difrence noticable if ur in light and heavy, daggers/tanks well buffed are geting rly low dmg, they can use pow instead of cov since they got nice pdef and shield defense so they running fast enough to get every enemy, so it would make dagger/tanks think if they want to play more as a tanks or killers.
-add some kind of attribute to ol's attacks- as an example take ol/ee who is a sealer/support/and dammage dealer in 1 time, that chars are already strong and imagine what can happend if some1 will finaly make ol/ee in dwarf skin and lvl it up to 85 lvl- possibility to enchante skills so he wont be such a mana hore( even now he have enough mana to win 2v1 nuking, sealing and draining) and possibility to learn forggoten scrolls will make this char just sick
ps: no its not a QQ topic
yes it is
Quote from: Sali on December 10, 2009, 01:10:59 AM
just an ideas:
-remove off-hand daggers or remove shield effect from them- reason: after last updates daggers starts to make nice dmg what is lets say fine, but stick to some idea of equal input-output dmg if u get what i mean. In past it wasnt a big deal cause no1 was using evasion and shield def buffs, daggers have huge evasion now so poor archers like me miss a lot anyway, and when u finally hit a target ur making lil bit silly dmg, cause its reduced by an off-hand dagger.
-decres blow land rate in heavy armore- not to much but to make difrence noticable if ur in light and heavy, daggers/tanks well buffed are geting rly low dmg, they can use pow instead of cov since they got nice pdef and shield defense so they running fast enough to get every enemy, so it would make dagger/tanks think if they want to play more as a tanks or killers.
-add some kind of attribute to ol's attacks- as an example take ol/ee who is a sealer/support/and dammage dealer in 1 time, that chars are already strong and imagine what can happend if some1 will finaly make ol/ee in dwarf skin and lvl it up to 85 lvl- possibility to enchante skills so he wont be such a mana hore( even now he have enough mana to win 2v1 nuking, sealing and draining) and possibility to learn forggoten scrolls will make this char just sick
ps: no its not a QQ topic
+1 sali
Quote from: CTEBAH on December 10, 2009, 01:52:28 AM
+1 ;)
-1 kucko
or w/r i dnt care :P
ol's drain is/should be earth attack
Quote from: Sali on December 10, 2009, 01:10:59 AM
just an ideas:
-remove off-hand daggers or remove shield effect from them- reason: after last updates daggers starts to make nice dmg what is lets say fine, but stick to some idea of equal input-output dmg if u get what i mean. In past it wasnt a big deal cause no1 was using evasion and shield def buffs, daggers have huge evasion now so poor archers like me miss a lot anyway, and when u finally hit a target ur making lil bit silly dmg, cause its reduced by an off-hand dagger.
-decres blow land rate in heavy armore- not to much but to make difrence noticable if ur in light and heavy, daggers/tanks well buffed are geting rly low dmg, they can use pow instead of cov since they got nice pdef and shield defense so they running fast enough to get every enemy, so it would make dagger/tanks think if they want to play more as a tanks or killers.
-add some kind of attribute to ol's attacks- as an example take ol/ee who is a sealer/support/and dammage dealer in 1 time, that chars are already strong and imagine what can happend if some1 will finaly make ol/ee in dwarf skin and lvl it up to 85 lvl- possibility to enchante skills so he wont be such a mana hore( even now he have enough mana to win 2v1 nuking, sealing and draining) and possibility to learn forggoten scrolls will make this char just sick
ps: no its not a QQ topic
Pls Pls dont be funy when Dagers start do smth on pvp poor archers start QQ omfg.
Dagger = many evasion(UE skill,passiv skills) vs archer its normal omg and if u cant hit them ask Yoda how he do it on my 180 evasion :o
Track or Kain pls close this funy Topic...
Quote from: MisiekIII on December 10, 2009, 11:59:25 AM
Pls Pls dont be funy when Dagers start do smth on pvp poor archers start QQ omfg.
Dagger = many evasion(UE skill,passiv skills) vs archer its normal omg and if u cant hit them ask Yoda how he do it on my 180 evasion :o
Track or Kain pls close this funy Topic...
what is so funny? its only to prevent daggers to dominate server, daggers are not easy to play, sure but also they are a class that dont depends on stuff like archers so sooner or later w/o any change every1 will reroll to dagger. Also at topic, none of this sugestion is a huge nerf, just a small things that will balance it lil bit more. And tbh Misiek dont tell me daggers dont need any even small cuts after they get such a power up that none class ever get.
Quote from: Sali on December 10, 2009, 03:24:22 PM
what is so funny? its only to prevent daggers to dominate server, daggers are not easy to play, sure but also they are a class that dont depends on stuff like archers so sooner or later w/o any change every1 will reroll to dagger. Also at topic, none of this sugestion is a huge nerf, just a small things that will balance it lil bit more. And tbh Misiek dont tell me daggers dont need any even small cuts after they get such a power up that none class ever get.
You mean like archers have done for long time!!!, Each time a class gets some power taken away from them and means they can't rape anything that moves we get QQ topic.
so much hate around. No i dont want have immortal char, and as i pointed those are just a SMALL things that wont hardly affect daggers but will help to balance server
sry but rly stupid topic
n/c
lol another QQ poor archers they can't do dmg with icarus ;( it's so freaking sad. Oh no w8 it's not sad. Go donate more or bug your char again.....
Quote from: EDDIE666 on December 10, 2009, 04:21:19 PM
sry but rly stupid topic
n/c
haahhahahahaa OFC for DAGGER PLAYER is this topic RLY RLY RLY STUUUUPID LOL
Love people who are unable of producing any of intelligence or any form of an argument so they just start with saying 'cry topic'.
I would suggest to be reconsider the skills of FS (sry i dont know names,i never had a fagger char) on the reuse .
Anyone can let me know the current reuse ?
Quote from: Sali on December 10, 2009, 01:10:59 AM
just an ideas:
-remove off-hand daggers or remove shield effect from them- reason: after last updates daggers starts to make nice dmg what is lets say fine, but stick to some idea of equal input-output dmg if u get what i mean. In past it wasnt a big deal cause no1 was using evasion and shield def buffs, daggers have huge evasion now so poor archers like me miss a lot anyway, and when u finally hit a target ur making lil bit silly dmg, cause its reduced by an off-hand dagger.
-decres blow land rate in heavy armore- not to much but to make difrence noticable if ur in light and heavy, daggers/tanks well buffed are geting rly low dmg, they can use pow instead of cov since they got nice pdef and shield defense so they running fast enough to get every enemy, so it would make dagger/tanks think if they want to play more as a tanks or killers.
-add some kind of attribute to ol's attacks- as an example take ol/ee who is a sealer/support/and dammage dealer in 1 time, that chars are already strong and imagine what can happend if some1 will finaly make ol/ee in dwarf skin and lvl it up to 85 lvl- possibility to enchante skills so he wont be such a mana hore( even now he have enough mana to win 2v1 nuking, sealing and draining) and possibility to learn forggoten scrolls will make this char just sick
ps: no its not a QQ topic
+1
Quote from: Diver on December 10, 2009, 04:34:02 PM
lol another QQ poor archers they can't do dmg with icarus ;( it's so freaking sad. Oh no w8 it's not sad. Go donate more or bug your char again.....
this time poor archer is not a donator and play he/pp that got nered so many times and never ever cried about it, and when i came up with some idea u go for "noob, donator, cried", rly i was expecting much more from u.ps...
ps: if ur so hurted by archers buy smthing better than tallum set....
Quote from: Sali on December 10, 2009, 01:10:59 AM
just an ideas:
-remove off-hand daggers or remove shield effect from them- reason: after last updates daggers starts to make nice dmg what is lets say fine, but stick to some idea of equal input-output dmg if u get what i mean. In past it wasnt a big deal cause no1 was using evasion and shield def buffs, daggers have huge evasion now so poor archers like me miss a lot anyway, and when u finally hit a target ur making lil bit silly dmg, cause its reduced by an off-hand dagger.
-decres blow land rate in heavy armore- not to much but to make difrence noticable if ur in light and heavy, daggers/tanks well buffed are geting rly low dmg, they can use pow instead of cov since they got nice pdef and shield defense so they running fast enough to get every enemy, so it would make dagger/tanks think if they want to play more as a tanks or killers.
-add some kind of attribute to ol's attacks- as an example take ol/ee who is a sealer/support/and dammage dealer in 1 time, that chars are already strong and imagine what can happend if some1 will finaly make ol/ee in dwarf skin and lvl it up to 85 lvl- possibility to enchante skills so he wont be such a mana hore( even now he have enough mana to win 2v1 nuking, sealing and draining) and possibility to learn forggoten scrolls will make this char just sick
ps: no its not a QQ topic
I agree , nerf all chars , make archers kill evrery thing in one hit, hahahaha
ps: Yes , its QQ - Cry me a river topc
Quote from: dosko on December 10, 2009, 06:01:10 PM
I agree , nerf all chars , make archers kill evrery thing in one hit, hahahaha
ps: Yes , its QQ - Cry me a river topc
same like luci made , i gues what ? he get what he want...
Mb its time to use skill called "hawkeye" :)?
Quote from: Onionis on December 10, 2009, 07:49:14 PM
Mb its time to use skill called "hawkeye" :)?
NO SH1T????? rly what do this skill, me noob me dont know lawl. And its refering to wich part of topic?
Start to use guidance and dance of inspiration ppl ;D
Quote from: Sali on December 10, 2009, 08:31:33 PM
NO SH1T????? rly what do this skill, me noob me dont know lawl. And its refering to wich part of topic?
the part of the topic where u write " i miss a lot..... blabla " and ye u are a naaby and nothing will change it :D
Quote from: Sali on December 10, 2009, 08:31:33 PM
NO SH1T????? rly what do this skill, me noob me dont know lawl. And its refering to wich part of topic?
u noob.. go use hawk eye and stop crying.. this oniosh1t dude is pro menz sali san
Quote from: Gonzal on December 10, 2009, 09:33:33 PM
Start to use guidance and dance of inspiration ppl ;D
Core also :D
wonder what would u say about retail server where daggers finish your life in 1 backstab.
Quote from: Alex on December 10, 2009, 10:26:46 PM
wonder what would u say about retail server where daggers finish your life in 1 backstab.
i say dreamer! xD
Quote from: Sali on December 10, 2009, 01:10:59 AM
just an ideas:
-remove off-hand daggers or remove shield effect from them- reason: after last updates daggers starts to make nice dmg what is lets say fine, but stick to some idea of equal input-output dmg if u get what i mean. In past it wasnt a big deal cause no1 was using evasion and shield def buffs, daggers have huge evasion now so poor archers like me miss a lot anyway, and when u finally hit a target ur making lil bit silly dmg, cause its reduced by an off-hand dagger.
-decres blow land rate in heavy armore- not to much but to make difrence noticable if ur in light and heavy, daggers/tanks well buffed are geting rly low dmg, they can use pow instead of cov since they got nice pdef and shield defense so they running fast enough to get every enemy, so it would make dagger/tanks think if they want to play more as a tanks or killers.
-add some kind of attribute to ol's attacks- as an example take ol/ee who is a sealer/support/and dammage dealer in 1 time, that chars are already strong and imagine what can happend if some1 will finaly make ol/ee in dwarf skin and lvl it up to 85 lvl- possibility to enchante skills so he wont be such a mana hore( even now he have enough mana to win 2v1 nuking, sealing and draining) and possibility to learn forggoten scrolls will make this char just sick
ps: no its not a QQ topic
+1
Quote from: Alex on December 10, 2009, 10:26:46 PM
wonder what would u say about retail server where daggers finish your life in 1 backstab.
and how much tears must be there if archer can 1 shoot you.
Quote from: Sali on December 10, 2009, 10:33:16 PM
and how much tears must be there if archer can 1 shoot you.
np for me if that archer has 40 range and his chance to 1-shoot would be about 30% only from back, oh and he has less hp/cp than archer.
If u have problems with dagger's Evasion use Sniper tatoos and specific buffs for Accuracy.
If once u hit'em u make shity dmg is normal,soon everybody will know how to use atributes,so ur dmg will increase.Anyway,if u want to make 3k crits with that insane reuse forget'bout it(forget'bout making 2k,even 1,5k on fighters properly buffed),and get used to HB,cos in this chronicle archers aren't mean to rule like in previous chronicles.Meanwhile daggers r meant to be even better than they'r nowadays.
About OLs,y,u'r right.
As usual ppl put a lot of stupid comments when some1 try to make our server better place. This ideas are great, i would like to see them in nightmare.
to be honest... every single class has a time when its overpowered. lately it was mages who had passive wm, then archers who took nukers down with just 1 shot. now its daggers classes. just get over it. w8 few months and there will be new overpowered char.
Quote from: sziii on December 10, 2009, 11:00:03 PM
As usual ppl put a lot of stupid comments when some1 try to make our server better place. This ideas are great, i would like to see them in nightmare.
put a smart comment, entertain me xD
Quote from: M3tta on December 10, 2009, 11:05:00 PM
to be honest... every single class has a time when its overpowered. lately it was mages who had passive wm, then archers who took nukers down with just 1 shot. now its daggers classes. just get over it. w8 few months and there will be new overpowered char.
i wonna see dwarfs time :) :) :) :)
Quote from: PainMaster on December 10, 2009, 11:24:58 PM
i wonna see dwarfs time :) :) :) :)
de/pal in dwarf skin, np, hf ;D
Quote from: Sephiroth on December 10, 2009, 10:42:10 PM
If u have problems with dagger's Evasion use Sniper tatoos and specific buffs for Accuracy.
If once u hit'em u make shity dmg is normal,soon everybody will know how to use atributes,so ur dmg will increase.Anyway,if u want to make 3k crits with that insane reuse forget'bout it(forget'bout making 2k,even 1,5k on fighters properly buffed),and get used to HB,cos in this chronicle archers aren't mean to rule like in previous chronicles.Meanwhile daggers r meant to be even better than they'r nowadays.
About OLs,y,u'r right.
i dont have any problem with their evasion nor with chop. sows but off-hands daggers is a thing that only we have any its start to be a pain in the ass, would u rly mind of removing them? this how dagger should work, cool evasion but shields have -8 evasion to prevent daggers and others classes that want evasion from using them so why we should keep a "shield" that only gives bonuses but dont decres anything?
lepiej... chuj ci w dupe.
na, seriously now... i hope u didnt actually think what u wrote lol. first of all dwarves are dominating since i dont know... like ever! tell me names of players on nm without dwarf char lol. second of all we were talking about pure pvp chars so gtfo with ur stupid dwarf comment.
Quote from: M3tta on December 10, 2009, 11:32:03 PM
lepiej... chuj ci w dupe.
na, seriously now... i hope u didnt actually think what u wrote lol. first of all dwarves are dominating since i dont know... like ever! tell me names of players on nm without dwarf char lol. second of all we were talking about pure pvp chars so gtfo with ur stupid dwarf comment.
and u can gtfo from this topic after being a serious fag who lack some sense of humor.
die.
sorry im not licking ftrs ass in every way i can even if i used to be allied with u guys. ;)
peace.
Quote from: Sali on December 10, 2009, 11:27:45 PM
de/pal in dwarf skin, np, hf ;Di dont have any problem with their evasion nor with chop. sows but off-hands daggers is a thing that only we have any its start to be a pain in the ass, would u rly mind of removing them? this how dagger should work, cool evasion but shields have -8 evasion to prevent daggers and others classes that want evasion from using them so why we should keep a "shield" that only gives bonuses but dont decres anything?
not like I seriously care about off-hand daggers (just that I cant make dynasty dagger off-hand :( ), but u seriously think 100 pdef less on dagger chars would save u ? xD
Quote from: Alex on December 10, 2009, 11:36:28 PM
not like I seriously care about off-hand daggers (just that I cant make dynasty dagger off-hand :( ), but u seriously think 100 pdef less on dagger chars would save u ? xD
i doubt its only 100 but even if its only 100 its always 100 hp closer to 0 :)
Quote from: M3tta on December 10, 2009, 11:32:03 PM
lepiej... chuj ci w dupe.
na, seriously now... i hope u didnt actually think what u wrote lol. first of all dwarves are dominating since i dont know... like ever! tell me names of players on nm without dwarf char lol. second of all we were talking about pure pvp chars so gtfo with ur stupid dwarf comment.
:o my hear is bleeding
Quote from: kang on December 10, 2009, 10:29:35 PM
i say dreamer! xD
What alex said is actually true, aw deals like 6k-10k from backstab aginst fully buffed enemy @ mass pvp.
I wanna see tears of guys who started this topic if daggers wouldnt be nerfed on dnet to 10% of their potencial.
Quote from: Sali on December 10, 2009, 11:27:45 PM
de/pal in dwarf skin, np, hf ;Di dont have any problem with their evasion nor with chop. sows but off-hands daggers is a thing that only we have any its start to be a pain in the ass, would u rly mind of removing them? this how dagger should work, cool evasion but shields have -8 evasion to prevent daggers and others classes that want evasion from using them so why we should keep a "shield" that only gives bonuses but dont decres anything?
No,I wouldn't mind since I don't use Off-Hand daggers,neither I know what's the Evasion a dagger can reach with enchanted skills and so,but,anyway,there'r way more things to care'bout than hitting a dagger for a lil more dmg...
Quote from: Ungolianth on December 11, 2009, 06:29:52 PM
ye sali is hurted cuz when good dagger catch him he cant do a shit so he try make QQ topic and cover it with "i wanna balanced server"
didnt was same with lusif ??
Quote from: Sali on December 10, 2009, 01:10:59 AM
just an ideas:
-add some kind of attribute to ol's attacks- as an example take ol/ee who is a sealer/support/and dammage dealer in 1 time, that chars are already strong
agree ;D
btw: my blizzard is sux now :D
You do not need DOT at the end of topic name.
ffs fvck of from ol's good acrhers still can easy pwn ol/xx or ee/ol ... so nvm... i don't know why u cry about ee/ol lul ??? just change this bug for making ol/xx in skin dwarf with lvl 85... ::) and all will be fine... btw. about daggers... in nowadays... rly they are overpowered... like a th/wl or pw/es on full buffs they are fvcking hard to kill. nothing more to say.
peace. ;)
Quote from: Sephiroth on December 10, 2009, 10:42:10 PM
hit'em forget'bout it(forget'bout making 2k,even 1,5k on fighters properly buffed)
forget'bout 'forget'bout, dont'ake you'ook any bad'ss
XD
Quote from: Ungolianth on December 11, 2009, 06:29:52 PM
ye sali is hurted cuz when good dagger catch him he cant do a shit so he try make QQ topic and cover it with "i wanna balanced server"
blizard bots should stay silent when serious players talks. ty. And as Strike pointed, luci cried so much and finaly he reached the target, but difrence is that im not QQing like "omfg i cant kill any1, nerf others and boost me" Changes i proposed are small and there is so much pain around it,
Quote from: Evolution on December 12, 2009, 12:43:06 AM
ffs fvck of from ol's good acrhers still can easy pwn ol/xx or ee/ol ... so nvm... i don't know why u cry about ee/ol lul ??? just change this bug for making ol/xx in skin dwarf with lvl 85... ::) and all will be fine... btw. about daggers... in nowadays... rly they are overpowered... like a th/wl or pw/es on full buffs they are fvcking hard to kill. nothing more to say.
peace. ;)
ye i won with wahka cus i run out his dances, gg. He can heal and drain health in 1 time so got like permanently full hp since dmg they deal is insane bcos of lack atribute on it.
im making more damage on Archer/tank that sps/ee XD
Quote from: our4n0s on December 12, 2009, 12:57:07 AM
forget'bout 'forget'bout, dont'ake you'ook any bad'ss
XD
I'm lovin'it
Quote from: Ungolianth on December 12, 2009, 04:13:59 AM
this is fuking bad idea u talk about now so pls shsss :P
i don't "shsss" delete this sh1t... because this is rly overpowered... but fvck of from normal hybrid's like ol/xx with max 80lvl...
Quote from: Sali on December 10, 2009, 01:10:59 AM
just an ideas:
-remove off-hand daggers or remove shield effect from them- reason: after last updates daggers starts to make nice dmg what is lets say fine, but stick to some idea of equal input-output dmg if u get what i mean. In past it wasnt a big deal cause no1 was using evasion and shield def buffs, daggers have huge evasion now so poor archers like me miss a lot anyway, and when u finally hit a target ur making lil bit silly dmg, cause its reduced by an off-hand dagger.
-decres blow land rate in heavy armore- not to much but to make difrence noticable if ur in light and heavy, daggers/tanks well buffed are geting rly low dmg, they can use pow instead of cov since they got nice pdef and shield defense so they running fast enough to get every enemy, so it would make dagger/tanks think if they want to play more as a tanks or killers.
-add some kind of attribute to ol's attacks- as an example take ol/ee who is a sealer/support/and dammage dealer in 1 time, that chars are already strong and imagine what can happend if some1 will finaly make ol/ee in dwarf skin and lvl it up to 85 lvl- possibility to enchante skills so he wont be such a mana hore( even now he have enough mana to win 2v1 nuking, sealing and draining) and possibility to learn forggoten scrolls will make this char just sick
ps: no its not a QQ topic
For me its looks like QQ topic. U r talking here that this "ideas" would prevent from mass reroll to daggers but, daggers power-up update was almoust 2 months ago, and still i see only same ppls who playing on daggers chars. About ur 1st idea taking off-hand dagger wouldnt change alot in yours dmg. Some time ago i was playing on dagger with and without off-hand daggers, and i must say, there there is only small diffrence, and if u think that thanks that update u will start making some big dmg to daggers u r wrong. About 2nd idea, tell me how many daggers/tanks r playing on nm amt ?, cuz in temp - ur main enemy, its only Astric? and mby some1 form EB, and mby Bakoos (but i think he is on your site so he cant be problem for u:P, and he is not very active atm ) so can u tell me what other dagger make for u such big problem?. And about that what wrote Kapibar about th/wls and pw/ess how many th/wls and pw/ess we have on nm? Yoshimo, Misiek3, DeadlyBeautyfull ? all of them r playing from very long time and have very good equip, so u cant nerf daggers chars only cuz few good equiped, experienced players r able to kill u, lol. Its like i would say nerf all sps/es cuz kazimira (with ic+a+++, valakas, many good augumentations) where able to hit me for 7k form m crit XD. I see many ppls here can only write +1,+1, but didnt notice that facts?. Sorry for my not very good English :P.
Quote from: Sali on December 12, 2009, 05:47:35 AM
blizard bots should stay silent when serious players talks. ty. And as Strike pointed, luci cried so much and finaly he reached the target, but difrence is that im not QQing like "omfg i cant kill any1, nerf others and boost me" Changes i proposed are small and there is so much pain around it, ye i won with wahka cus i run out his dances, gg. He can heal and drain health in 1 time so got like permanently full hp since dmg they deal is insane bcos of lack atribute on it.
u say about best geared ee/ol on server now .. because he got Val... ::) and u see... u kill him... and he able too to kil u ... so plx don't cry about ol/xx ;)
Quote from: QuaredPL on December 12, 2009, 11:48:40 AM
For me its looks like QQ topic. U r talking here that this "ideas" would prevent from mass reroll to daggers but, daggers power-up update was almoust 2 months ago, and still i see only same ppls who playing on daggers chars. About ur 1st idea taking off-hand dagger wouldnt change alot in yours dmg. Some time ago i was playing on dagger with and without off-hand daggers, and i must say, there there is only small diffrence, and if u think that thanks that update u will start making some big dmg to daggers u r wrong. About 2nd idea, tell me how many daggers/tanks r playing on nm amt ?, cuz in temp - ur main enemy, its only Astric? and mby some1 form EB, and mby Bakoos (but i think he is on your site so he cant be problem for u:P, and he is not very active atm ) so can u tell me what other dagger make for u such big problem?. And about that what wrote Kapibar about th/wls and pw/ess how many th/wls and pw/ess we have on nm? Yoshimo, Misiek3, DeadlyBeautyfull ? all of them r playing from very long time and have very good equip, so u cant nerf daggers chars only cuz few good equiped, experienced players r able to kill u, lol. Its like i would say nerf all sps/es cuz kazimira (with ic+a+++, valakas, many good augumentations) where able to hit me for 7k form m crit XD. I see many ppls here can only write +1,+1, but didnt notice that facts?. Sorry for my not very good English :P.
tell me what good stuff :) Puff is rolling with ica+cd+7 dnet set and he is not full RB jewels and still making 3k on stab yoshi isnt the same Evasion ftw 10 hit 8 miss .
Quote from: QuaredPL on December 12, 2009, 11:48:40 AM
For me its looks like QQ topic. U r talking here that this "ideas" would prevent from mass reroll to daggers but, daggers power-up update was almoust 2 months ago, and still i see only same ppls who playing on daggers chars. About ur 1st idea taking off-hand dagger wouldnt change alot in yours dmg. Some time ago i was playing on dagger with and without off-hand daggers, and i must say, there there is only small diffrence, and if u think that thanks that update u will start making some big dmg to daggers u r wrong. About 2nd idea, tell me how many daggers/tanks r playing on nm amt ?, cuz in temp - ur main enemy, its only Astric? and mby some1 form EB, and mby Bakoos (but i think he is on your site so he cant be problem for u:P, and he is not very active atm ) so can u tell me what other dagger make for u such big problem?. And about that what wrote Kapibar about th/wls and pw/ess how many th/wls and pw/ess we have on nm? Yoshimo, Misiek3, DeadlyBeautyfull ? all of them r playing from very long time and have very good equip, so u cant nerf daggers chars only cuz few good equiped, experienced players r able to kill u, lol. Its like i would say nerf all sps/es cuz kazimira (with ic+a+++, valakas, many good augumentations) where able to hit me for 7k form m crit XD. I see many ppls here can only write +1,+1, but didnt notice that facts?. Sorry for my not very good English :P.
First of all you're telling bullcraps concerning players, you only seem to mention those who are famous/been hero, there are shilenmaster, xilef etc..
As for kazimirra, with two 'r' please ! it has 0 augment.
(aye, stop assuming please)
and the funniest part of your post is this one
Quote from: QuaredPL on December 12, 2009, 11:48:40 AM
About ur 1st idea taking off-hand dagger wouldnt change alot in yours dmg. Some time ago i was playing on dagger with and without off-hand daggers, and i must say, there there is only small diffrence, and if u think that thanks that update u will start making some big dmg to daggers u r wrong.
I think i saw him writing about 5 times he is looking for small differences, doubt you're teaching him anything right now, are you?
Archers suck agins daggers, just accept the way it is and stop QQ.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RbD33xWYP8
If u cant hit dagger with heavy armor u should consider changing ur setup lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdVOxNcptiM
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So fu... idiot post OMG. NERF DAGER'S THAY ARE TO MUCH OVERPOWER RLY OMG. 80% of this server are so noobish and so weak( 1 vs 1 that rly crap).
OFF HAND DAGER LOOOOOOL WTF Dagers always use off hand dager and have many evasion omg what a idiot topic... QQ
how is it gonna be with daggers now? drake...track... kain...?
Quote from: M3tta on December 12, 2009, 10:27:02 PM
how is it gonna be with daggers now? drake...track... kain...?
they should only add some blow dmg, its sh1t in comparison to what it should be.
Quote from: WscieklyWaz on December 12, 2009, 10:59:52 PM
they should only add some blow dmg, its sh1t in comparison to what it should be.
ye 1.6k blows suck ballz....
and where i said i miss in heavy armore daggers? Oo
Quote from: MisiekIII on December 12, 2009, 08:36:49 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdVOxNcptiM
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So fu... idiot post OMG. NERF DAGER'S THAY ARE TO MUCH OVERPOWER RLY OMG. 80% of this server are so noobish and so weak( 1 vs 1 that rly crap).
OFF HAND DAGER LOOOOOOL WTF Dagers always use off hand dager and have many evasion omg what a idiot topic... QQ
During this long period of NM server being online i have noticed that almost everyone changed (way of thinking, arguing, speaking english, flaming.....) but wow, you maneged to stay the same retard as you always were. Congrats ;)
Quote from: Sali on December 13, 2009, 09:38:50 PM
ye 1.6k blows suck ballz....
and where i said i miss in heavy armore daggers? Oo
yes it sux, cuz dagger dont have ranged skills, use a lot of mana and dont spam blows like machine gun (which mages/archers do with their attacks). Blow dmg should be similar as @ retail imo.
And u still cry about op dagger. Pathetic.
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on December 13, 2009, 10:12:36 PM
During this long period of NM server being online i have noticed that almost everyone changed (way of thinking, arguing, speaking english, flaming.....) but wow, you maneged to stay the same retard as you always were. Congrats ;)
So did Ary :D :D :D
some archers dont have problems kill dagger with good evasion
-180 EVASION (tatoos Ghost lvl4emp+EU/////// w/o any buff for evasion)
http://img710.imageshack.us/i/yoda.png/
after this 3 hits i got 1 more for 5k = he didnt miss :)
i know on this screen u cant see my bufs/evasion or 4th HIT but mby u can trust me :)
or later i will make better screen when yoda kill me :)
Quote from: EDDIE666 on December 14, 2009, 09:06:19 PM
some archers dont have problems kill dagger with good evasion
-180 EVASION (tatoos Ghost lvl4emp+EU/////// w/o any buff for evasion)
http://img710.imageshack.us/i/yoda.png/
after this 3 hits i got 1 more for 5k = he didnt miss :)
i know on this screen u cant see my bufs/evasion or 4th HIT but mby u can trust me :)
or later i will make better screen when yoda kill me :)
and whats the point? do u see in my 1st post some complains about evasion and that it should be decressed? no so leave this evasion shit stuff and stick at topic
Quote from: EDDIE666 on December 14, 2009, 09:06:19 PM
some archers dont have problems kill dagger with good evasion
-180 EVASION (tatoos Ghost lvl4emp+EU/////// w/o any buff for evasion)
http://img710.imageshack.us/i/yoda.png/
after this 3 hits i got 1 more for 5k = he didnt miss :)
i know on this screen u cant see my bufs/evasion or 4th HIT but mby u can trust me :)
or later i will make better screen when yoda kill me :)
yoda is the master malaka we are only some little padawan's :(
Quote from: seboulba on December 15, 2009, 01:06:37 PM
yoda is the master malaka we are only some little padawan's :(
:D:D:D and i am Lucas ??:D
I r vader!
Quote from: Sali on December 15, 2009, 12:28:56 AM
and whats the point? do u see in my 1st post some complains about evasion and that it should be decressed? no so leave this evasion shit stuff and stick at topic
I have a song for u http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBo495Z0_7k deep inside you cry cry cry ^^
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on December 14, 2009, 09:00:59 AM
Whos that? :)
ary was me and setto's (or knock ... or some other dagger's) best friend ... i used to kill him OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER again xD and flaming like crazy .. and he kept trying to try to kill us and return.
we would often go into nerdrage as me and .. setto i think would make fun of him
Quote from: WscieklyWaz on December 15, 2009, 02:33:26 PM
I have a song for u http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBo495Z0_7k deep inside you cry cry cry ^^
kk ur so cool, now gtfo back to ur dragon section.
Quote from: Sali on December 15, 2009, 03:16:13 PM
kk ur so cool, now gtfo back to ur dragon section.
wow :D +1
Quote from: EDDIE666 on December 14, 2009, 09:06:19 PM
some archers dont have problems kill dagger with good evasion
-180 EVASION (tatoos Ghost lvl4emp+EU/////// w/o any buff for evasion)
http://img710.imageshack.us/i/yoda.png/
after this 3 hits i got 1 more for 5k = he didnt miss :)
i know on this screen u cant see my bufs/evasion or 4th HIT but mby u can trust me :)
or later i will make better screen when yoda kill me :)
how about u get at least pp buff lol xD
Quote from: Alex on December 15, 2009, 04:22:44 PM
how about u get at least pp buff lol xD
or buffs from clan hall, i heard rumors u like them much more than normal pp buffs ;P
Quote from: Alex on December 15, 2009, 04:22:44 PM
how about u get at least pp buff lol xD
real men pvp with no buffs :))
Quote from: tzuc on December 15, 2009, 03:09:03 PM
ary was me and setto's (or knock ... or some other dagger's) best friend ... i used to kill him OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER again xD and flaming like crazy .. and he kept trying to try to kill us and return.
we would often go into nerdrage as me and .. setto i think would make fun of him
Well atleast the guy tryed to kill you alone while "some" bring a whole zerg with em if they get killed xD