Trash do you have brain? lol
What are you doing with this server? KURWA !?
Alll the time you nerf only warriors and what about mages ?!
I play with arrcher and when i have full buff (i ve all resist ), mages hit me with regular hit for 1,5 - 2k+ (5k critic).
When i hit mages, i hit him from 900 to 2k (critical).
Where s class balance ? WHERE ? KURWA !!!!!!!!!!!! :[[[[ Mages > All
Song of elemental gave m.def now u nerf it + 1 for mages QQ
My suggestion - make single buff bar for song-dance !! In official server is like this.
Why this server dies ?!
This is your fault track, you re killing this server with all this cuts !!
This is my little opinion.
I ve enough of You Track , your stupidite and i leave this server ;//
To my friends, thx for game, cyu o9n other server ;D
Btw this server still have some potential. Track you ve to only take your ass up and do sth (come class balance).
Quote from: qqrer on June 29, 2010, 08:34:06 PM
Trash do you have brain? lol
What are you doing with this server? KURWA !?
Alll the time you nerf only warriors and what about mages ?!
I play with arrcher and when i have full buff (i ve all resist ), mages hit me with regular hit for 1,5 - 2k+ (5k critic).
When i hit mages, i hit him from 900 to 2k (critical).
Where s class balance ? WHERE ? KURWA !!!!!!!!!!!! :[[[[ Mages > All
Song of elemental gave m.def now u nerf it + 1 for mages QQ
My suggestion - make single buff bar for song-dance !! In official server is like this.
Why this server dies ?!
This is your fault track, you re killing this server with all this cuts !!
This is my little opinion.
I ve enough of You Track , your stupidite and i leave this server ;//
To my friends, thx for game, cyu o9n other server ;D
Btw this server still have some potential. Track you ve to only take your ass up and do sth (come class balance).
oooooo charlie that really hurttttts :X
Quote from: qqrer on June 29, 2010, 08:34:06 PM
Trash do you have brain? lol
What are you doing with this server? KURWA !?
Alll the time you nerf only warriors and what about mages ?!
I play with arrcher and when i have full buff (i ve all resist ), mages hit me with regular hit for 1,5 - 2k+ (5k critic).
When i hit mages, i hit him from 900 to 2k (critical).
Where s class balance ? WHERE ? KURWA !!!!!!!!!!!! :[[[[ Mages > All
Song of elemental gave m.def now u nerf it + 1 for mages QQ
My suggestion - make single buff bar for song-dance !! In official server is like this.
Why this server dies ?!
This is your fault track, you re killing this server with all this cuts !!
This is my little opinion.
I ve enough of You Track , your stupidite and i leave this server ;//
To my friends, thx for game, cyu o9n other server ;D
Btw this server still have some potential. Track you ve to only take your ass up and do sth (come class balance).
No you dont ^^ otherwise you will not make new acc on forum for this flame :P
Anyway you have some right about archers but 900 to 2k (critical) lol on who ? on mobs ?
meyebe iam poor archer but my crits are max 800 to 1k on mages
but fights are longer and more interesting than befor :p
Quote from: Shreed on June 29, 2010, 09:06:50 PM
No you dont ^^ otherwise you will not make new acc on forum for this flame :P
Anyway you have some right about archers but 900 to 2k (critical) lol on who ? on mobs ?
meyebe iam poor archer but my crits are max 800 to 1k on mages
but fights are longer and more interesting than befor :p
dn cant make pt when u dont ve 2-3 ppls with sof and 2 bishops so yeah long fights imo xD
Quote from: qqrer on June 29, 2010, 08:34:06 PM
Trash do you have brain? lol
What are you doing with this server? KURWA !?
Alll the time you nerf only warriors and what about mages ?!
I play with arrcher and when i have full buff (i ve all resist ), mages hit me with regular hit for 1,5 - 2k+ (5k critic).
When i hit mages, i hit him from 900 to 2k (critical).
Where s class balance ? WHERE ? KURWA !!!!!!!!!!!! :[[[[ Mages > All
Song of elemental gave m.def now u nerf it + 1 for mages QQ
My suggestion - make single buff bar for song-dance !! In official server is like this.
Why this server dies ?!
This is your fault track, you re killing this server with all this cuts !!
This is my little opinion.
I ve enough of You Track , your stupidite and i leave this server ;//
To my friends, thx for game, cyu o9n other server ;D
Btw this server still have some potential. Track you ve to only take your ass up and do sth (come class balance).
learn how to buff/play good pvp player's doesn't have any problems with mages, what do you want from track ncsoft don't give option to song of elemental mdef so QQ if you don't know how tu buff just leave and don't cry
someone archer tried to kill mage/tank,specially bp/pal ? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quotelearn how to buff/play good pvp player's doesn't have any problems with mages, what do you want from track ncsoft don't give option to song of elemental mdef so QQ if you don't know how tu buff just leave and don't cry
you know what buff bar need archer vs mage's?say me cuz i am noob >:( don't forget write mage crit dmg
Quote from: G4rro on June 30, 2010, 05:11:41 PM
yea most of them hits me by 150 to 500 max it depends of eq i guess , but they are doing it wrong , instead of spamming F1 F1 F1 , they should stun or lethal me .
Please :D
We both know that mages are OP ,specially on p.def/ressists part .
I might have the most powerfull archer on server and barerly i can hit you for 1,2k(critical) the same time that you healing ur self(stable) for 2k .
On the other hand with boss set +6 and 400-450 dark ressist attributes i m getting hited for 5k-8k by necros .
And i guess you already know that i m not a random guy who is going to pvp un-prepared .
Sometimes its good to admit the truth .
Quote from: G4rro on June 30, 2010, 05:11:41 PM
yea most of them hits me by 150 to 500 max it depends of eq i guess , but they are doing it wrong , instead of spamming F1 F1 F1 , they should stun or lethal me .
dude keep cutting the damn trees instead of trying to prove your lost causes. concentrate on your mages hitting me for 400 when im with berserk on, then on the 500 archery damage recieved on sof+ heroic valor+ windstorm and+ bladestorm.
Quote from: joroboro on June 30, 2010, 02:03:42 PM
someone archer tried to kill mage/tank,specially bp/pal ? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
you know what buff bar need archer vs mage's?say me cuz i am noob >:( don't forget write mage crit dmg
ncsoft do that tank shouldn't killed by arher so qq, on the serv we have many clases, i if you get buff for arher any mage kill you if you get buff for mage any arher kill you, if mage hit you to strong make resist on armour if you don't have time for farm (stone/jewel/cry) buy it, if you don't have coins cry moar or stop playing here
Well, being honest for a moment.
With TP in siege, with windstorm/cop, i dont even see the archer hits
But after kill the pony....it hurts :-X
Quote from: G4rro on June 30, 2010, 06:35:45 PM
Mages are not OP for sure , I was in 2 kinds of partys , mages and archers , for sure archers are dying much more faster than mages , but it depends of their buffs , Im getting low damages from mages too , and ofc not only me . So the problem is in Resists and Atributes = , mage should hit a other mage or fighter by 500 to 2.5k cryt max , and for me its good , archer should cryt by 1.5k ( with that OP Icarus ) , and that is what i can see on NM , its perfectly fine , not everyone plays mage/tanks , I can say that many of ppl rerolls from tanks to supports classes . Keep in mind that , this game is not created for a single pwners . So if u are trying to run alone and kill 1 pt by 4-5 k cryts per person , stop dreaming . I can assure you that if 6-7 archers will get same target , EVERYone will die , even tank .
don't talk BULLSHIT ,what you want - all pt archer target you and ? they make on you 300 dmg ,you have 2 k+ heal + heal other mage from your party = unvulnerable , same time nukers kill archer like ant .This is equivalent ,when every time archer die like fly? Archers need buff resist vs 4 x kind mage(imposible with this f1cking buff bar) but with 1 x song of wind storm mage have resist vs alllllll ;D kind archer
Quote from: joroboro on June 30, 2010, 07:23:26 PMArchers need buff resist vs 4 x kind mage(imposible with this f1cking buff bar) but with 1 x song of wind storm mage have resist vs alllllll ;D kind archer
u sure? what about atributs on bows? u dont need resist agains holy? or fire? or w.e they have on bows?
Quote from: trooperXkoki on June 30, 2010, 08:13:54 PM
u sure? what about atributs on bows? u dont need resist agains holy? or fire? or w.e they have on bows?
True..
most of them are LOL...and put elementalz in bow instead of holy....(hai!...all use elemental prot and song to protect against mages)
Quoteu sure? what about atributs on bows? u dont need resist agains holy? or fire? or w.e they have on bows?
Quoteofc archer have prominence,death spike,hydro blast,hurricane,steal essence but we just forget use them
most of them are LOL...and put elementalz in bow instead of holy....(hai!...all use elemental prot and song to protect against mages)
ofc archer have prominence,death spike,hydro blast,hurricane,steal essence but we just forget use them
again bulshit,btw how can mage explain me how i paly with archer ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D funny
Quote from: joroboro on June 30, 2010, 08:57:42 PM
again bulshit,btw how can mage explain me how i paly with archer ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D funny
u use fire element bow to farm in fog? . . easy question
Its not about "how to play" . . .its about element in weapons...playstyle isnt included ;)
Quote from: Neozinhu on June 30, 2010, 09:02:11 PM
u use fire element bow to farm in fog? . . easy question
Its not about "how to play" . . .its about element in weapons...playstyle isnt included ;)
vs holy attack you have min. resist - for that we have holy attack attribute ,if you want w ecan make test you with clean set vs clean bow ,w/o attribute , and you see dmg (specially) on bp/pal
nvm i think this post don't change nothing .......we all know why
Quote from: joroboro on June 30, 2010, 09:27:31 PM
vs holy attack you have min. resist - for that we have holy attack attribute ,if you want w ecan make test you with clean set vs clean bow ,w/o attribute , and you see dmg (specially) on bp/pal
nvm i think this post don't change nothing .......we all know why
you wanna kill tank in 2hits?
Quote from: trooperXkoki on June 30, 2010, 09:33:46 PM
you wanna kill tank in 2hits?
hahaha again bulshit
no with 2 hit, we CANT kill mage/tank ,specially bp/pal - never
closed.
Quote from: joroboro on June 30, 2010, 09:35:14 PM
hahaha again bulshit
no with 2 hit, we CANT kill mage/tank ,specially bp/pal - never
closed.
ofc you can, you have to burn his mana first, coz he heal his self, no?
Quote from: joroboro on June 30, 2010, 09:35:14 PM
hahaha again bulshit
no with 2 hit, we CANT kill mage/tank ,specially bp/pal - never
closed.
its the deflect arrow...not the def...
;)
Quote from: Neozinhu on June 30, 2010, 09:59:46 PM
its the deflect arrow...not the def...
;)
Simple, make Deflect Arrow work like UD and Vengeance with robe.
Normal bonus u will get only with Heavy Set (so tank/fighter wont be nerfed) and on Robe Set something like 30% (will make test with SK/PS later and post screens) of normal damage reduction bonus...
Quote from: Weezer on June 30, 2010, 11:19:33 PM
Simple, make Deflect Arrow work like UD and Vengeance with robe.
Agree with that
Quote from: G4rro on June 30, 2010, 11:38:15 PM
omfg guys c'mon stop this shit , again you are trying to nerf something that doesnt have to be nerfed . I cant understand why all of Top archers in NM are not writing here even single word about nerfing or boosting archers or mages . Simply they can handle it , and they know how to play corectly .
If you are playing with dynasty bow +f + 5 or draco + 10 and dnet with 7 lvl atributes and you want to kill everything , you are just retarded. Try to fight with Icarus +7-8 with pretty good augument and max lvl of atr , full rb jew set , and dnet with full lvl of atr , you will see the difference . Seriously you are trying to make your own Lineage game , like lucifsg ::)
PS that reply wasnt to Weezer , just to crying archers .
Deathhand noob archer? oO
Quote from: G4rro on July 01, 2010, 12:56:11 AM
Deathand has almost perfectly equipped char and has enough skills to be a one of the top , but his problem is that he is running alone , and thats why even with 1.3k to 2k dmg he cant do nothing . But now imagine that 5 ppl like Deathand are hitting tank by 1.5k each hit per 2 secs , so dont tell me that archers sux and they should be boosted or tank nerfed . Its just about eq and char . If your eq sux , even boosted like hell you cant do nothing . Face that .
bp/pal in mage party = immortal this is fact, i cant see alone bp/pal on pvp vs archer ;)
Quoteso dont tell me that archers sux and they should be boosted or tank nerfed
this is question -archer can kill fighetr/tank np, but can't kill bp/tank ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: G4rro on July 01, 2010, 12:56:11 AM
Deathand has almost perfectly equipped char and has enough skills to be a one of the top , but his problem is that he is running alone , and thats why even with 1.3k to 2k dmg he cant do nothing . But now imagine that 5 ppl like Deathand are hitting tank by 1.5k each hit per 2 secs , so dont tell me that archers sux and they should be boosted or tank nerfed . Its just about eq and char . If your eq sux , even boosted like hell you cant do nothing . Face that .
I m kinda far from owning perfect gear comparing to some +14/+15 bow owners and +8 sets but anyway .
Well my point of view is not focused on bp/tanks but generally on mages p.def . Its simple rediculous a mage/xx (not tank) to have 2,2- 2,5k p.def the same time i got 1,8 and 2,2 with war and earth chant ,add the fact that i have +6 light set .
On the point that "i m running alone" its totally my choise and i cant hide that i enjoy it .I could easily be into some huge clan of any side but i dont want to ,i m discussed of people's behaviors .
p.s: Its funny how people reffering to me as a top geard player and thats why i kill who i kill .You clearly forget when i had a draconic bow +3 the same time all had Icarus bows +6/7 or mage Icarus weapons +6/7 and i was rolling the Universe solo or on duo .
Quote from: G4rro on June 30, 2010, 11:38:15 PM
omfg guys c'mon stop this shit , again you are trying to nerf something that doesnt have to be nerfed . I cant understand why all of Top archers in NM are not writing here even single word about nerfing or boosting archers or mages . Simply they can handle it , and they know how to play corectly .
If you are playing with dynasty bow +f + 5 or draco + 10 and dnet with 7 lvl atributes and you want to kill everything , you are just retarded. Try to fight with Icarus +7-8 with pretty good augument and max lvl of atr , full rb jew set , and dnet with full lvl of atr , you will see the difference . Seriously you are trying to make your own Lineage game , like lucifsg ::)
PS that reply wasnt to Weezer , just to crying archers .
thats why you do not play anymore ur justsucker or master or w.e? thats why you dont play your "PVP MACHINE" g4yro?
or thats why you play ur 'imortal' enclav?
i play char when archers/mages/daggers were/are overpowered....and yes i Njoy
dont you think that every1 can make tank/xx? imagine pt with 9x tanks? you will look like usa in iraq, but you will sux like always
Quote from: G4rro on June 30, 2010, 05:11:41 PM
yea most of them hits me by 150 to 500 max it depends of eq i guess , but they are doing it wrong , instead of spamming F1 F1 F1 , they should stun or lethal me .
PRO !
Quote from: G4rro on July 01, 2010, 12:56:11 AM
Deathand has almost perfectly equipped char and has enough skills to be a one of the top , but his problem is that he is running alone , and thats why even with 1.3k to 2k dmg he cant do nothing . But now imagine that 5 ppl like Deathand are hitting tank by 1.5k each hit per 2 secs , so dont tell me that archers sux and they should be boosted or tank nerfed . Its just about eq and char . If your eq sux , even boosted like hell you cant do nothing . Face that .
Yea but you know not everyone want to make glady/archer to deal some dmg (notice the some) while all tank/mage combos are almost immune to archers.
Quote from: joroboro on June 30, 2010, 07:23:26 PM
don't talk BULLSHIT ,what you want - all pt archer target you and ? they make on you 300 dmg ,you have 2 k+ heal + heal other mage from your party = unvulnerable , same time nukers kill archer like ant .This is equivalent ,when every time archer die like fly? Archers need buff resist vs 4 x kind mage(imposible with this f1cking buff bar) but with 1 x song of wind storm mage have resist vs alllllll ;D kind archer
+1
boost archer (( little bit )crit power, crit chance)//dagger
nerf mages(crit chance)
QQ .i.
Quote from: qqrer on July 01, 2010, 05:08:53 PM
+1
boost archer (( little bit )crit power, crit chance)//dagger
nerf mages(crit chance)
QQ .i.
boost archer and dagger? lol, just nerf mages or fix atr def xd
necro, sps, sorc, sh / tank sub + clean am+a (dark/fire/woter/wind atr) can easy own top wear archer ( only stun can save him xd )
Quote from: G4rro on July 01, 2010, 01:58:49 PM
To the king of the Aden stairs :
in which cave u live?
Quote from: G4rro on June 30, 2010, 11:38:15 PM
If you are playing with dynasty bow +f + 5 or draco + 10 and dnet with 7 lvl atributes and you want to kill everything , you are just retarded. Try to fight with Icarus +7-8 with pretty good augument and max lvl of atr , full rb jew set , and dnet with full lvl of atr , you will see the difference . Seriously you are trying to make your own Lineage game , like lucifsg ::)
bullshit ;/ my friend play he/pal (full buff - 2,5k m def) with dnet all atribute 9lvl (w/o holy) +baium and aq + db+f+10 (9 lvl fire) and he hit full buffed mage (w/o tank sub) no more than 2k - 2,5k but he down from 3 m crit for 4-5k (with 1,5k m def 2k normal and 8k m crit)... its a big joke.
and btw - clean dnet = dnet with full lvl atr ;/ (i can show u if dont belive me LOL) only buff for resist works
p.s stop write sh1ts like ,,strop QQ,, omg, its true - i see much more mage class than after, why? cuz they are OP (meybe on off server mages hit strong but they cant use major heal, ud or TP )
Quote from: Wizjoner on July 02, 2010, 02:28:07 AM
bullshit ;/ my friend play he/pal (full buff - 2,5k m def) with dnet all atribute 9lvl (w/o holy) +baium and aq + db+f+10 (9 lvl fire) and he hit full buffed mage (w/o tank sub) no more than 2k - 2,5k but he down from 3 m crit for 4-5k (with 1,5k m def 2k normal and 8k m crit)... its a big joke.
and btw - clean dnet = dnet with full lvl atr ;/ (i can show u if dont belive me LOL) only buff for resist works
p.s stop write sh1ts like ,,strop QQ,, omg, its true - i see much more mage class than after, why? cuz they are OP (meybe on off server mages hit strong but they cant use major heal, ud or TP )
true :p and they are 2 shooted by dagger an archer QQ :D
Quote from: Wizjoner on July 02, 2010, 02:28:07 AM
bullshit ;/ my friend play he/pal (full buff - 2,5k m def) with dnet all atribute 9lvl (w/o holy) +baium and aq + db+f+10 (9 lvl fire) and he hit full buffed mage (w/o tank sub) no more than 2k - 2,5k but he down from 3 m crit for 4-5k (with 1,5k m def 2k normal and 8k m crit)... its a big joke.
and btw - clean dnet = dnet with full lvl atr ;/ (i can show u if dont belive me LOL) only buff for resist works
p.s stop write sh1ts like ,,strop QQ,, omg, its true - i see much more mage class than after, why? cuz they are OP (meybe on off server mages hit strong but they cant use major heal, ud or TP )
u can try make 150 def atribute on armor ::) i'm just saying :P
in pvp u get cancel / banes all the time and after ofc mages hit u 8 k m crit with vortex or surrender...with proper buffs even w/o atribute in armor and tt set u get max 500-800 per normal hit Qq ;D
Quote from: trooperXkoki on July 01, 2010, 04:38:25 AM
thats why you do not play anymore ur justsucker or master or w.e? thats why you dont play your "PVP MACHINE" g4yro?
or thats why you play ur 'imortal' enclav?
i play char when archers/mages/daggers were/are overpowered....and yes i Njoy
dont you think that every1 can make tank/xx? imagine pt with 9x tanks? you will look like usa in iraq, but you will sux like always
IT will be total retarded unbuffed party that will die pretty fast :D
Quote from: G4rro on July 02, 2010, 12:14:37 PM
So tell him that Db+f+10 was good , but in IL times not now . And if its a tank and he is getting 2k each hit by a mage , tell him to pm Enclave in game , i will show him how to buff properly a tank . After it he will get max 500 dmg each hit .
i don't need pm you cuz i have 2920 m def + more 300 attribute resist BUT vs 1 kind mage
Quotedon't talk BULLSHIT ,what you want - all pt archer target you and ? they make on you 300 dmg ,you have 2 k+ heal + heal other mage from your party = unvulnerable , same time nukers kill archer like ant .This is equivalent ,when every time archer die like fly? Archers need buff resist vs 4 x kind mage(imposible with this f1cking buff bar) but with 1 x song of wind storm mage have resist vs alllllll ;D kind archer
what part you cant understand ? You make bp/pal and you think you great player?how many time we must write bp/pal have OP def. ?UD get nerf on light,robe set but deflekt arrow NO cuz he is mage skill mby? We play still with archer cuz they have high upgrade but for new ppl FREE advice - DON'T make archer
"pm ingame Enclave " blq blq ,you can't explain me nothing new
Quote from: chlipus on June 30, 2010, 01:04:48 AM
learn how to buff/play good pvp player's doesn't have any problems with mages, what do you want from track ncsoft don't give option to song of elemental mdef so QQ if you don't know how tu buff just leave and don't cry
i hear NCSOFT don't give no1 mage skill "deflekt arrow " but i only hear
Quote from: G4rro on July 02, 2010, 02:55:58 PM
You just prooved that you know a big shit , cuz since i tested it , only 1 part of atribute working vs 1 resist , so if you have 5 parts vs for example necro , only 1 is working , so im suggesting you to pm me in game and i will explain you what resist you can put to dont die with 3k m def by 4-5 hits .
About OP Def on BP/PAL its total bullshit , i have 2.k to 2.2k max p def ( with potion ) on total full buff , so its so much ? rofl
;D ooo you know some very special secret ooooo i have 5 x part on set with various resist but they is insufficient we need buff resist too
with normal buff bar np. but not here,so we back again on this "archer can't have resist vs all mage but mage with 1 x song of wind storm have resist vs allllllllllllllll ;D archer ;D " if u can't understand pm me ingame i explain you ;D for finaly i say .. is not true that mage/tank > archer
just mage/tank >>>>>>>>>> archer
Quote from: G4rro on July 02, 2010, 04:30:47 PM
Dude stop crying , make urself better eq , buff urself properly and you kill mages , if you want to kill everyone by 2 hits , i can tell you that you have to stop dreaming NOW , cuz it wont happens . Also if you except that DB+f+10 can do smth in HB , you have to start to fight vs strafko , for a place in aden stairs .
There is like 10 % of all mages , who has a tank sub LoL.
aden stairs is placeholder for DN,BB ,i havent db+F+10 and i not cry, just explain like you or you cry too?
what about cancel ? after 2-3 cancel we stay like npc vs full buffed mage ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D funny
@ g4ro, dude stop mess with me and my clan
if you really love me, pm me in game i give you my c0ck, stop this bulls1ts on forum...spammer!
Just make mage/archer and dagger and play with all ;D
Quote from: G4rro on July 02, 2010, 04:40:29 PM
yes nerf Cancel , Make mage/tank able to get 4-5 k dmg by archers , and boost archers bcoz joroboro with his O/E eq has a problem with them . ROFL you are propably lolmate of strafko .
back and look my post where i say what dmg needs archer vs mage ? i havent problem ,no1 ,but if you is little smart and don't want bp/pal get nerf you stop with stupid post here and topic will went to last position , but only if you is little smart , cuz all know mage/tank is immortal vs archer , all sell archer item and buy mage item and start mage but enclave said us NOOOOO is not true ;D funny ;D funny ;D
Quote from: joroboro on July 02, 2010, 05:42:03 PM
back and look my post where i say what dmg needs archer vs mage ? i havent problem ,no1 ,but if you is little smart and don't want bp/pal get nerf you stop with stupid post here and topic will went to last position , but only if you is little smart , cuz all know mage/tank is immortal vs archer , all sell archer item and buy mage item and start mage but enclave said us NOOOOO is not true ;D funny ;D funny ;D
you are noob or you cant understand that he is my fun and he dont know what is saying....every 2nd word is strafko strafko mi idol xD
Most of people complain about Archers and Mages, but forget that L2 is more then this 2 type of chars.
We will never have balanced server since we have stack subclasses and attribute system not working properly, but still playable, the main point about BP/Tank being "OP" is about Deflect Arrow skill, Song of Windstorm (for all mage pt) and Dance of Bladestorm (dont forget this one and with an active BD in pt with Renewal song u have rly good reuse of skill).
The main point is that with all this buffs archers can't kill a well buffed mage pt, and in fact is true, cause they have soo many resists against archers that sometimes is a pain in the ass to kill a mage pt (especially with bladestorm + SOF), but remember that there's other ways to kill a mage pt, for example daggers r still the best char to kill a mage (even BP/Tank), also a skilled (and well geared) GL can kill.
Also u dont need to kill the mage pt when they on SOF+Bladestorm, u can kite then or use mass skills like WL stuns or NE and OL debuffs to take their buffs or even silence then, but most people forget that debuffs and stun r important and preffer to keep pressing F1 till kill the enemy.
What people in almost all topics here on NM Forum always discuss (blame) about mage x archer balance, but forget that there's other classes to play, a good example of this is szi (DE/TY) most of people take this char like a RB Killer, but some will remember that a lot of times he was in pvp (Varka and Baium) and killing rly easy (also dying easy sometimes cause he need 30% of HP and sometimes get overbuffed).
Also another example r PA/WL class, Nigel and Bakoos was rly hard to kill (not just cause of insane HP, P. Def/M. Def) but mostly cause of mass stuns.
/add: Yoshimo also..in mass pvps...was annoying a lot...could "disable" many ppl during mass with all the WL skillz
and szi save my ass in pvp many times ;D
Quote from: Neozinhu on July 02, 2010, 06:20:33 PM
/add: Yoshimo also..in mass pvps...was annoying a lot...could "disable" many ppl during mass with all the WL skillz
and szi save my ass in pvp many times ;D
Yoshimo is TH/WL and yes its rly annoying to kill him in mass pvp, another good example is puff, he also was rly hard to kill and in mass pvp's was always using mass stuns and then start killing stunned mages.
Just learn your character, is soo funny but all say archer is only F1, i think some ppls dont know play archer, i played one he/pal and is more than F1, and ofc u cant try to kill powerfull mage just hitting and with skills w/o echant, USE BRAIN ;D
QuoteMost of people complain about Archers and Mages, but forget that L2 is more then this 2 type of chars.
i speak only for mage vs archer cuz they fight on long distance and now archer can't kill mage just chance is 0%, archer vs dagger almost equivalent ,orc die fast cuz they are target N 1
Quote from: joroboro on July 02, 2010, 09:17:50 PM
i speak only for mage vs archer cuz they fight on long distance and now archer can't kill mage just chance is 0%, archer vs dagger almost equivalent ,orc die fast cuz they are target N 1
w/o cop and song...mages still 3 hits and down...
make buff bar like before...and how u fixed the song of elemetal NOW FIX WINDSTORM and see here how many donators will CRY LIKE A .............................................................fuked up SERVER
Quote from: DareDevil on July 02, 2010, 09:24:49 PM
make buff bar like before...and how u fixed the song of elemetal NOW FIX WINDSTORM and see here how many donators will CRY LIKE A .............................................................fuked up SERVER
+1
all reroling to mage/tank char... QQ
Quote from: Marinella on July 02, 2010, 01:00:01 PM
IT will be total retarded unbuffed party that will die pretty fast :D
pp/tank
sws/tank
dancer/tank
ol/tank
bp/tank
bp/tank
bp/tank
bp/tank
se/tank
classic dn party setup :D
Quote from: trooperXkoki on July 03, 2010, 03:54:48 AM
pp/tank
sws/tank
dancer/tank
ol/tank
bp/tank
bp/tank
bp/tank
bp/tank
se/tank
classic dn party setup :D
OL nuke?...not big deal ;D
Quote from: Neozinhu on July 03, 2010, 04:11:18 AM
OL nuke?...not big deal ;D
no...ol is for buffs and debuffs...one of that bishop/tank nuke with prominenc augument on weapon
Quote from: Neozinhu on July 02, 2010, 09:18:49 PM
w/o cop and song...mages still 3 hits and down...
again bulshit , why make sh1t post ^^ on pvp who havent cop or wind storm from mage ? mage have free place on buff bar i dont wanna archer pown all cuz not fun i wanna little balance, for xxxxxxxx time - archer now have 1 % chance vs any kind mage and 0 % chance vs mage/tank
Quote from: trooperXkoki on July 03, 2010, 03:54:48 AM
pp/tank
sws/tank
dancer/tank
ol/tank
bp/tank
bp/tank
bp/tank
bp/tank
se/tank
classic dn party setup :D
archer pt against that party will fight a few day ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
New Screen Coming
dnet or dyna? set+? :D atributs, give us more info :D
Quote from: trooperXkoki on July 03, 2010, 07:47:49 PM
dnet or dyna? set+? :D atributs, give us more info :D
dyn ...normal enchanted ...atributtes 4/4/4/4/4
But well...we're talking about archer hits no?
I'll take another screen ...better :D
Bcuz...this one is low if compared with the others...
Quote from: Neozinhu on July 03, 2010, 07:54:08 PM
dyn ...normal enchanted ...atributtes 4/4/4/4/4
But well...we're talking about archer hits no?
I'll take another screen ...better :D
Bcuz...this one is low if compared with the others...
make screen when they hit you, and when you hit them :D
Quote from: trooperXkoki on July 03, 2010, 08:11:37 PM
make screen when they hit you, and when you hit them :D
sry...i forgot to do it =X
Quote from: trooperXkoki on July 03, 2010, 03:54:48 AM
pp/tank
sws/tank
dancer/tank
ol/tank
bp/tank
bp/tank
bp/tank
bp/tank
se/tank
classic dn party setup :D
lol you forget about one:
we have a wc/tank also.
Quote from: Shreed on July 03, 2010, 11:12:49 PM
lol you forget about one:
we have a wc/tank also.
is gatechant bot :D