* PvP DMG - Do you want to make all freaking fixes only to archers? I already hit them for 70-100 (on full mage resist) they hit 500-1200 (on full archer resist) where the freak is balance here if they hit 5 or 8 times more. (Yes I also have attributes in weapon)
Proofs:
http://yfrog.com/f/jploldvp/ (Shield,G Shield,Song of Earth,Song of WindStorm,Chant of Protection,Deflect Arrow,VIctories of Paagrio,Song of Elemental) Check them dmg made on tank.
http://www.filefront.com/16964789/Siege-Aden-04.07.2010.wmv/ (full movie from siege) :]
http://yfrog.com/f/5ulol2zlp/ (Full Matk Buff+ AM with lots of attributes) look also that this guys dont have S sets with Attributes so with it it gonna be pure ownage.
* Baium - Now he is easier then Zaken. Possible to kill by 1 Poor Archer Party (Next Boost for Archer)
We already tested him on mages. Awesome nerf I think that you only nerfed his p def because ty/de is hitting 35k mage is hitting 300.
* RaidBosses - Possible to kill with 4 archers + support.
Also you only nerfed them p def.
Calculating - Good Game.
Keep think on it Admins. You freaked up all mages. :]
Quote from: Lecktor on July 04, 2010, 06:39:41 PM
QQ more ****** ;D
this topic is closed for tards psycko :D
Baium is weak against bow attacks. No wonder he can be killed by archers.
Quote from: Bav3 on July 04, 2010, 06:53:41 PM
epic with 1 pt?
dont think so
It is about principle, not about numbers.
Quote from: Lecktor on July 04, 2010, 07:03:28 PM
we killed valakas whit 1 party archers, so what
@ all eople can make a archer QQ QQ QQ moar
when and where? Oo ON Dragon? I don't think so.
Quote from: Bav3 on July 04, 2010, 07:06:59 PM
even with 1 pro pt epics shouldnt die
even with 2 if u ask me
well seems you totaly nabzor ;D ;D
j/k xDDD
Some proofs:
http://yfrog.com/f/jploldvp/
Quote from: ChujoZord on July 04, 2010, 07:18:42 PM
Some proofs:
http://yfrog.com/f/jploldvp/
hmm and if u have big m.atk and big atk attribute then u should get less damage from archers? ???
Btw the max damage what u got 1,3k dunno what is the problem with it.....I usually get 2,1k from Mryocker(he is darkelf archer for sure with ogre tatoos). I would see a screenshot from ur damages in this buff....If u hit low then u have right but with this screen nothing wrong...
Quote from: Curs3dangel on July 04, 2010, 07:24:11 PM
hmm and if u have big m.atk and big atk attribute then u should get less damage from archers? ???
Btw the max damage what u got 1,3k dunno what is the problem with it.....I usually get 2,1k from Mryocker(he is darkelf archer for sure with ogre tatoos). I would see a screenshot from ur damages in this buff....If u hit low then u have right but with this screen nothing wrong...
check my first post. It's updated.
wts l2 lessons.
archer on fullbuff>mage fullbuff
archer +holy+qa >baiumzord
1 pt epic kill? YES!!!!! ON EVERY SERVER!!!!!!!
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Chujozord "so much cry in this topic"
For example Exkid noobs. Your All clan are basted on Nukkers, so it easy to have rezists on you. What u except, we have 90 + for water, dark. fire. We were focus on NUKK pt, so we use all 24 slot buffs on NUKKER, if in this time will came Archery PT wil smash our pt. Wy u cry sop much, for example, i came to siege my He/PAL (1.2k m,def) but w/o songs, elemental, and rezist on aqua and i get hit from MasterGhost by 6k. What u whant guys, reorganize your clan its easy to fight with you... On mass pvp where will be Nukker, Dagger, and Archer party will be other story. You were also based on archer, so if we will make 1 pt Nukker we will make u 3-4k hits,
You cry so much bitchys learn to play its rezist.
Only 1 think here its freak up - Surenders to water, fire etc. - it should low your rezist when some1 make surender. Only this its freaked up. So only this GM should change thats all. If on siege will came Archer pt from Infinity they will make huge dmg on us, or if there will cam good Nukker pt, will also make on u (exi) big dmg because ITS IMPOSIBLE HAVE ALL REZIST on NUKKER AND ARCHER while u have only 24 slot BUFF. EoT get knowledge. Or use again DanceOfBladestorm in nukker pt <LOL>
ANd for example about Baium. On Every server u kill him by 1 pt. Stop Cry, lets fight for it, u cry about baium but u wasn't camp Baium so WTF? Lets have some fun, or again 3-4 pt to kill Baium? And no funn? You whant it ? LAWL cry bitches.
Also with normal RB. Stop write sh1ts chujozord. Ok its posible kill by 4 archers but in 40 min? We already kill glaki in 1 pt in 15 min. You whant make RB like Epics? Moron it should be easy to kill, lets have pvp for it. Because some RB like Lilith or Ember its like Epics... we already came in 2 pt to Ember or Lilith and its fuking hard to low hp - imposible to kill, but in 1h? LAWL. For me RBs also will need to change to low HP, because NUKK pt faster lose MP than kill RB.
dont tell me we hited your clanmates for 1.2k and you hit us for 100. today i had crits from 70 to nearly 6000 - depends on your buffs/skills. your nukkers hited me from 100 till nearly 2k
problem is you all are just f1 users, whthin hour I got ONE root and ONE trance. I havn't seen any OL debuffs, mage debuffs, curses (except gloom). also I saw ONE nice action made by some BD from you, he tried to run near us and use medusa, sadly he got killed cuz bishops were healing some lolnuks.
QuoteYour All clan are basted on Nukkers, so it easy to have rezists on you.
Right. Make a clan only with nukers... Dumb thing. If you have 5 party, you should have like 2 archer, 2 mage, and 1 meele party, then enemy cant fight with full resists vs you. I thought exci leaders played l2 for years, and know smth about the game, but seems they dont. Now archers works correctly, and whole excidium crying on forum, funny to see it. :D
Quote from: Toszi on July 04, 2010, 08:05:24 PM
Right. Make a clan only with nukers... Dumb thing. If you have 5 party, you should have like 2 archer, 2 mage, and 1 meele party, then enemy cant fight with full resists vs you. I thought exci leaders played l2 for years, and know smth about the game, but seems they dont. Now archers works correctly, and whole excidium crying on forum, funny to see it. :D
+1
( Exci players had the biggest face, when they killed our fighters by their nukers... and now they 're cryin... )
+1 when surrender and seed owned in 1 hit
Quote from: ChujoZord on July 04, 2010, 06:35:56 PM
* PvP DMG - Do you want to make all freaking fixes only to archers? I already hit them for 70-100 (on full mage resist) they hit 500-1200 (on full archer resist) where the freak is balance here if they hit 5 or 8 times more. (Yes I also have attributes in weapon)
Proofs:
http://yfrog.com/f/jploldvp/ (Shield,G Shield,Song of Earth,Song of WindStorm,Chant of Protection,Deflect Arrow,VIctories of Paagrio,Song of Elemental) Check them dmg made on tank.
http://yfrog.com/f/5ulol2zlp/ (Full Matk Buff+ AM with lots of attributes) look also that this guys dont have S sets with Attributes so with it it gonna be pure ownage.
* Baium - Now he is easier then Zaken. Possible to kill by 1 Poor Archer Party (Next Boost for Archer)
* RaidBosses - Possible to kill with 4 archers + support.
Calculating - Good Game.
Keep think on it Admins. You freaked up all mages. :]
wooow, archers with S grade bow and attri hit a mage in ROBE for 500-1200 :o
what an "unbalance"
did u ever heard about party UD? :P
QQ
ps: next time make JPGs ;D
We are updating full movie from PvP so you gonna see difference. Yes I gonna cry like you cried :]
Like i said only surenders are here freaked up. They should remove 15 or 20 rezist to wind/water etc when u put it on. Btw try to use gloom etc u have much curse, but u only put f1 :P its archer style not nukker ;)
ex1 QQ
change all !!!!!!!!!!
what you expect?
fast res + best cast + heal + and now maybe 3k dmg in full rezist ??
Quote from: ChujoZord on July 04, 2010, 06:35:56 PM
* PvP DMG - Do you want to make all freaking fixes only to archers? I already hit them for 70-100 (on full mage resist) they hit 500-1200 (on full archer resist) where the freak is balance here if they hit 5 or 8 times more. (Yes I also have attributes in weapon)
Proofs:
http://yfrog.com/f/jploldvp/ (Shield,G Shield,Song of Earth,Song of WindStorm,Chant of Protection,Deflect Arrow,VIctories of Paagrio,Song of Elemental) Check them dmg made on tank.
http://yfrog.com/f/5ulol2zlp/ (Full Matk Buff+ AM with lots of attributes) look also that this guys dont have S sets with Attributes so with it it gonna be pure ownage.
* Baium - Now he is easier then Zaken. Possible to kill by 1 Poor Archer Party (Next Boost for Archer)
* RaidBosses - Possible to kill with 4 archers + support.
Calculating - Good Game.
Keep think on it Admins. You freaked up all mages. :]
You are not * . . . so QQ moar
besides, as I saw some screenshots posted here, they didnt use important buff, with that buff I hit 1/3 weaker than normal. what is it? hmm.. that's the secret you must discover ;) and no, it's not bladestorm ;)
btw its the same topic what masterghost did..
QQ about resists and archers :D
Quote from: pigozord on July 04, 2010, 10:39:21 PM
besides, as I saw some screenshots posted here, they didnt use important buff, with that buff I hit 1/3 weaker than normal. what is it? hmm.. that's the secret you must discover ;) and no, it's not bladestorm ;)
Awesome secret. Imp. Shield Def.
Anyway it's not normal. You have cried 2 months about pvp dmg of archers now it's our turn.
The funniest thing that only enclave flame in this topic :D
let's all be honest.
Mages needs somekind of nerf... and to compromise it a bit resistance buffs should be less effective. (see it as needing resistance buffs less more without mages doing sick dmg).
Archers needs somekind of boost. Heard the range of archers aint as it supposed to be wich takes away the advantage of archers + their dmg aint really how it should be. (dunno how good the song/dances against arrows exactly work (effectiveness / re-use etc etc).
Dmg of archers on RB's should be looked over aswell, i know they should be doing more dmg on RB's then most other classes but still...
Daggers aint really as they should be aswell but they depend on baium/aq/cat queen buff, and i doubt there are dagger chars with that walking arround most of the time. Just dont boost them to much else u'll get wrong effects like what happend on arena.
Tank classes are pretty much useless since i aint really seeying them being more defensive then most other classes. And tbh tank classes have first priority needing a fix...
Quote from: ChujoZord on July 04, 2010, 11:18:06 PM
Awesome secret. Imp. Shield Def.
Anyway it's not normal. You have cried 2 months about pvp dmg of archers now it's our turn.
The funniest thing that only enclave flame in this topic :D
sory dude, you lost. it's not that
awesome secret buff.
you must try harder lol ;)
besides, nerfed archery dmg was a fact. you just cant buff yourself or have shity gear, yup heroes with c / b grade shields lol.
and gz rechargers on l2w on siege, was fun lol:D
Quote from: ChujoZord on July 04, 2010, 11:18:06 PM
Awesome secret. Imp. Shield Def.
Anyway it's not normal. You have cried 2 months about pvp dmg of archers now it's our turn.
The funniest thing that only enclave flame in this topic :D
Cause pvp dmg of archers was freaked up. Now there isnt any problem with the dmg of mages, but with your clans setup...
PR with full buff in that stuff.....5k patk aprox...
ur deflect arrow is lvl 1... u have low p.def....wanted to be hitted by 50? O_o
And about ur hits... Song Of elemental + elemental protection + specific resist...all that is needed to pwn ur dmg...even w/o element in armors.
all of us had draco focus, ant queens, empowered ogres tatoos, all used talisman patk, all of us used patk potion. with fullbus my HE/PAL (+5str) have nearly 5k patk. So now think about PR with more patk and deadly eye.
you still think that 1.3k critical is huge dmg? you use shitty shields and most important you dont use proper buffs. by looking at your buff setup I must say, add ONE mor buff and enclave will be hitting you 1/3 weaker. and no, it's not windstorm lol. if GM want to check what I'm talking about - pm me here or in game - nigga.
about your dmg.
your clan consists of SH, SPS and Necro classes only. So its realy easy to buff ourselves with full resists. didnt you notcied, that if any of us lost single buff like elemental protection / mdef buff / warding / etc, he recived dmg like 1/2k? not our fault you dont use curses or debuffs.
what you want? you would like to hit for 1k on fullresisted archer/tank party? check your casting speed, your debuff skills. now check archery atack speed and think it doesnt crits every hit.
too bad you didn post screenshots when you killed KingKIll - who came there for fun and without party. he had only elemental protection and MasterGhost hited him for 6k (normal hit).
main difference between our 'cry' topics and your is, we wanted NORMAL archer dmg, you want to BOOST you mages by nerfing resists.
edit: last but not least, we also used party UD.
i said myself i wouldn't post anywhere except trade section but this is stupid
we pvp vs both exci and enclave .. it's easy to fight both
1. enclave has only archer party - we buff vs fighter buffs, don't even use mdef buffs or other protections except divine / holy resist - they do vs our mage party 1.5k max 1.6k crit and on sweet they do 600 dmg top crit and we do 600 - 800 dmg GG - which i find good for mages. + andrey got silenced on 3 out of 5 pvp's :D
2. exci has only mages - we buffed only mdef buffs, most damage we got is 400 from masterghost, when enclave came from behind we got hit 4k damage xD since we had no pdef buffs
also try having a fighter party hitting enclave when buffed vs full mage xD you would be surprised of damage same with exci when buffed vs pdef, we were hitting at siege 1.1k + vs exci nukers and sweetlemonade was doing 1.5k+ normal :D
it's easy to fight vs both clans since it's easy to buff vs them, it's harder when it's mixed figter/mage clans
Quote from: OliveTrade on July 05, 2010, 09:34:00 AM
i said myself i wouldn't post anywhere except trade section but this is stupid
we pvp vs both exci and enclave .. it's easy to fight both
1. enclave has only archer party - we buff vs fighter buffs, don't even use mdef buffs or other protections except divine / holy resist - they do vs our mage party 1.5k max 1.6k crit and on sweet they do 600 dmg top crit and we do 600 - 800 dmg GG - which i find good for mages. + andrey got silenced on 3 out of 5 pvp's :D
2. exci has only mages - we buffed only mdef buffs, most damage we got is 400 from masterghost, when enclave came from behind we got hit 4k damage xD since we had no pdef buffs
also try having a fighter party hitting enclave when buffed vs full mage xD you would be surprised of damage same with exci when buffed vs pdef, we were hitting at siege 1.1k + vs exci nukers and sweetlemonade was doing 1.5k+ normal :D
it's easy to fight vs both clans since it's easy to buff vs them, it's harder when it's mixed figter/mage clans
wiseman speaks! +1 :)
Quote from: OliveTrade on July 05, 2010, 09:34:00 AM
i said myself i wouldn't post anywhere except trade section but this is stupid
we pvp vs both exci and enclave .. it's easy to fight both
1. enclave has only archer party - we buff vs fighter buffs, don't even use mdef buffs or other protections except divine / holy resist - they do vs our mage party 1.5k max 1.6k crit and on sweet they do 600 dmg top crit and we do 600 - 800 dmg GG - which i find good for mages. + andrey got silenced on 3 out of 5 pvp's :D
2. exci has only mages - we buffed only mdef buffs, most damage we got is 400 from masterghost, when enclave came from behind we got hit 4k damage xD since we had no pdef buffs
also try having a fighter party hitting enclave when buffed vs full mage xD you would be surprised of damage same with exci when buffed vs pdef, we were hitting at siege 1.1k + vs exci nukers and sweetlemonade was doing 1.5k+ normal :D
it's easy to fight vs both clans since it's easy to buff vs them, it's harder when it's mixed figter/mage clans
+1 ^^ and thats all fooks ;) in this topic
Quote from: Protector on July 05, 2010, 09:55:27 AM
+1 ^^ and thats all fooks ;) in this topic
(http://blankeberg.punt.nl/upload/cartoon.jpg)
Im waiting for replay from mages. Not archers from Enclave :]
Quote from: ChujoZord on July 05, 2010, 10:11:17 AM
Im waiting for replay from mages. Not archers from Enclave :]
Quote from: Neozinhu on July 05, 2010, 05:59:27 AM
PR with full buff in that stuff.....5k patk aprox...
ur deflect arrow is lvl 1... u have low p.def....wanted to be hitted by 50? O_o
And about ur hits... Song Of elemental + elemental protection + specific resist...all that is needed to pwn ur dmg...even w/o element in armors.
i hate archers...and i'm not from enclave
Quote from: pigozord on July 05, 2010, 09:19:23 AM
all of us had draco focus, ant queens, empowered ogres tatoos, all used talisman patk, all of us used patk potion. with fullbus my HE/PAL (+5str) have nearly 5k patk. So now think about PR with more patk and deadly eye.
you still think that 1.3k critical is huge dmg? you use shitty shields and most important you dont use proper buffs. by looking at your buff setup I must say, add ONE mor buff and enclave will be hitting you 1/3 weaker. and no, it's not windstorm lol. if GM want to check what I'm talking about - pm me here or in game - nigga.
about your dmg.
your clan consists of SH, SPS and Necro classes only. So its realy easy to buff ourselves with full resists. didnt you notcied, that if any of us lost single buff like elemental protection / mdef buff / warding / etc, he recived dmg like 1/2k? not our fault you dont use curses or debuffs.
what you want? you would like to hit for 1k on fullresisted archer/tank party? check your casting speed, your debuff skills. now check archery atack speed and think it doesnt crits every hit.
too bad you didn post screenshots when you killed KingKIll - who came there for fun and without party. he had only elemental protection and MasterGhost hited him for 6k (normal hit).
main difference between our 'cry' topics and your is, we wanted NORMAL archer dmg, you want to BOOST you mages by nerfing resists.
edit: last but not least, we also used party UD.
You want us to use dance of blade storm on mages xD GL
Nah we dont need to hit 1-2 k like you said. But even freaking 300-400 cause already we hit 50-70. Look also that you dont have attributes in armors.
I talk aabout max possible resist for archers and max possible resist for mages against each other. It's freaking radicullous.
You think that you ar chers are normal? Check some freaking movies from official where mages fight against fighters and you will see about what are you talking about. People there can have much more buffs.
U are all in DC ROBES, not in DNET+6, so ..... DONATE TO KEEP SERVER ALIVE
Quote from: ChujoZord on July 05, 2010, 10:27:50 AM
You want us to use dance of blade storm on mages xD GL
nahh I dont, but your pr0 hero clanmember yesterday cried to kodex that he
'used dance of bladestorm and we crits him for 400 and he hits us for 20'. so I just want to cnogratulate that guy knowledge about L2 skills ;D. GG tard.
besides, you ht for 70 when we were on party UD, just like we hit you while you are on party UD. same thing, crits for 100. we were perfectly buffed vs you, unfotunately you were not. if you were you would get crited for 500 max (already tested).
yo, fraps maybe today baiumwars. 2 pt vs 2 pt and what? is it unballanced pvp? lol.
Quote from: pigozord on July 05, 2010, 11:27:53 AM
yo, fraps maybe today baiumwars. 2 pt vs 2 pt and what? is it unballanced pvp? lol.
ofx we hitting 70 and getting 1.2
yea but you menaged to win some pvp, didnt you? you cry like it is impossible and now what?
use dance of bladestrom and then cry to kodex that you hit for 20. like yesterday lol. you are facking retard and f1 user with lack of l2 knowledge.
and yes, skills> noob, we have seen it yesterday on siege. /siegestatus pliz. my party had 6 deaths on whole siege, how about yours lolclan? 60?
Quote from: pigozord on July 05, 2010, 11:43:22 AM
use dance of bladestrom and then cry to kodex that you hit for 20. like yesterday lol. you are facking retard and f1 user with lack of l2 knowledge.
and yes, skills> noob, we have seen it yesterday on siege. /siegestatus pliz. my party had 6 deaths on whole siege, how about yours lolclan? 60?
Who use dance of blade storm?
Ofc and you have proof 6 to 60 :> you said that by ur self that u are too overpowered
I'm not from Exci nor Enclave and personally i also think there are problems with mage damage.
Enclave forget that they don't even have yet Armor with attribute when exci already have weapon + attribute.
So imagine mage damage with armor + attribute... they will hit for like 30-40 or less ? that's plain retard.
I don't say they should hit for 1-2k but certainly not for 100 when they have attributed weapon and they hit someone without attributed armor/jewel.
We'll just have a archer only server if it stays like this.
And also, Epic with 1 pt... or even 2 from my point of view is just totally ridiculous. So much fun to kill baium with 5 ppl + 4 buff box, woot
I really miss the time when you had to regroup many pts to kill Epics...
Quote from: Kazuki on July 05, 2010, 11:51:55 AM
I'm not from Exci nor Enclave and personally i also think there are problems with mage damage.
Enclave forget that they don't even have yet Armor with attribute when exci already have weapon + attribute.
So imagine mage damage with armor + attribute... they will hit for like 30-40 or less ? that's plain retard.
I don't say they should hit for 1-2k but certainly not for 100 when they have attributed weapon and they hit someone without attributed armor/jewel.
We'll just have a archer only server if it stays like this.
And also, Epic with 1 pt... or even 2 from my point of view is just totally ridiculous. So much fun to kill baium with 5 ppl + 4 buff box, woot
I really miss the time when you had to regroup many pts to kill Epics...
+1
Quote from: ChujoZord on July 05, 2010, 11:51:09 AM
Who use dance of blade storm?
who? ofc pr0 TardSeeker.
first he beg kodex to ordered us not to kill him and masterghost at HB, than he promised to freak us with masterghost. they came and got assraped twice by 3 active ppl. effect TardSeeker cries to kodex that
'he use bladestorm and he hits us for 20, and itz bugged' which shows clearly how fackim sad lame pussy he is.
funny story ;D hope kodex made some ss lol.
Quote from: Kazuki on July 05, 2010, 11:51:55 AM
I'm not from Exci nor Enclave and personally i also think there are problems with mage damage.
Enclave forget that they don't even have yet Armor with attribute when exci already have weapon + attribute.
So imagine mage damage with armor + attribute... they will hit for like 30-40 or less ? that's plain retard.
I don't say they should hit for 1-2k but certainly not for 100 when they have attributed weapon and they hit someone without attributed armor/jewel.
We'll just have a archer only server if it stays like this.
And also, Epic with 1 pt... or even 2 from my point of view is just totally ridiculous. So much fun to kill baium with 5 ppl + 4 buff box, woot
I really miss the time when you had to regroup many pts to kill Epics...
you pvped with us or just belive in what they wrote? you realy think they constantly deal only 50 dmg? lol
besides baium in one party is a bad thing but zaken in 2 ppl is ok?
Quote from: pigozord on July 05, 2010, 12:00:41 PM
you pvped with us or just belive in what they wrote? you realy think they constantly deal only 50 dmg? lol
besides baium in one party is a bad thing but zaken in 2 ppl is ok?
No need to pvp to see that there is a problem here... and i was not talking about the fact they were doing 50dmg but for me, 100-200 is wrong too since you don't even have yet attributed armor
And did i say it was normal to kill Zaken with 2 ppl ?
If i find it abnormal to kill baium with one pt, ofc i find it abnormal to kill Zaken with 2 ppl but for that you have to thx substack and dlvl issues...
This server is dead anyway, how much it has, 400-500 online? I mean real one, without counting dual/triple/multi boxes.
+ plenty of bugs, unbalanced chars etc.
But dont worry, Gm's are working as hard as they can, so far they were able to add subclasses and (ofc) donations already!
PS: "this post will be deleted in 5... 4..."
Quote from: Kerth on July 05, 2010, 12:30:03 PM
PS: "this post will be deleted in 5... 4..."
3...2.. ;D ;D
Quote from: Kazuki on July 05, 2010, 12:19:02 PM
No need to pvp to see that there is a problem here... and i was not talking about the fact they were doing 50dmg but for me, 100-200 is wrong too since you don't even have yet attributed armor
So again. The problem is, exci have ONLY mages, so enclave can fight vs them with full resist buffs, since they dont have to use p def buffs, chant of protection, p def song archer resist dance/song and so on. So they have enough buffslots for EVERY fkin resists ---> they have maybe more resist than others with full attributed sets. Since exci have like 5 or more pt, if 2 of this pts would be archers or even daggers, enclave would be easy frag for them enclave they have less ppl...
Quote from: Toszi on July 05, 2010, 12:32:54 PM
So again. The problem is, exci have ONLY mages, so enclave can fight vs them with full resist buffs, since they dont have to use p def buffs, chant of protection, p def song archer resist dance/song and so on. So they have enough buffslots for EVERY fkin resists ---> they have maybe more resist than others with full attributed sets. Since exci have like 5 or more pt, if 2 of this pts would be archers or even daggers, enclave would be easy frag for them enclave they have less ppl...
Problem isn't buff slot.
If dance/song were on 3rd line as they should be, anybody could have all resist anyway so for me, it's not that much of an argument even if on this lame server, dance/song aren't yet on 3rd line.
You're telling me you have full resist buff, which is certainly true but you still forget that you don't have yet attributed armor, which would give you a lot more resist.
Honestly, imagine if you have attributed armor, a mage full buffed (exci or not, who cares) will hit you for like 40-50 dmg maybe without even party UD.
Do you really find that damage normal when the mage hitting you have full m.atk buff and attributed weapon ?
Personally i don't.
Anyway i think too that this server is dead, it's way too modified from official which of course make ridiculous things happens.
Plus the Bug Section seems totally ignored since there have been bug reported that would just need like on digit change to get fixed but are still here after 3 weeks.
RB are most likely all freaked up between boots/drop etc... yesterday we even killed a RB that supposedly lvl up SC but didn't when it took us 40-60min to kill it with 2 pts full buffed (one mage, one fighter with de/ty ofc)
Just an epic fail for me.
omg..did u realized what are u crying about?
mages are still in ROBE witch has low pdef, and thats why tanks are in HEAVY set, make some tanks, agro the archers and u can kill them..not only mages. its not a pvp party like 9/9 mage in 1 pt :D
archer > mage
u can check it on any other server also
sure, lets make the mages more pwzor, so they can kill any other char, and u cant kill them... :D
why u have to cry if some enemy kill u? its not NM where u have immortal mages in DNET etc
Quote from: Shilen on July 05, 2010, 12:59:08 PM
omg..did u realized what are u crying about?
mages are still in ROBE witch has low pdef, and thats why tanks are in HEAVY set, make some tanks, agro the archers and u can kill them..not only mages. its not a pvp party like 9/9 mage in 1 pt :D
archer > mage
u can check it on any other server also
sure, lets make the mages more pwzor, so they can kill any other char, and u cant kill them... :D
why u have to cry if some enemy kill u? its not NM where u have immortal mages in DNET etc
It's funny comment made by archer, they all find normal that archer make 8-10times more dmg than mage ^^
I know archer>mage but there is limit to everything you know ? or do you get boner when you hit mage for 1.2k and he hit you for 120 ?
As it is, archer don't even need bishop in pvp, a pp is enough to heal seeing the lame damage mages do... or even better, an OL so they don't even loose HP xD
Nope. Exi started cry because they start pvp with Enclave. With Infinity was easy, because they haven't got protections.
Now its good, like u saw at Baium. Your nukker pt its hard to kill, too much ress chars. BTW, like i said its hard to even have full rezist on you in ARCHER pt, because archer pt need more buffs, so 24 slot its not much. You take lesson, and start to curse us, not spam f1 like on aden siege :P. Nukker pt , need 16-18 slot to buff and rezist, Archer need much more:
For Example:
Protect on archer: (COP;30%, Windstorm 20%, EarthSong)
Protect on Nukker: (Magic barier, Mental shield(for curse), Elemental protection (atribute), UnholyRezistance (dark), SongOfWarding (mdef), SongOfElemental (for atribute), DanceOfAquaGuard (for water), SongOfStormGuard(Wind) )
Add to this protection how many buffs need to be in Archer pt, for example nukker only need, Acumen,Shield,Cov,Conc,Mistic,Siren,Reneval,Emp,WM,BOA, and few song of protection.
Dont write sh1ts that u make on us 70 dmg, maybe when we have PartyUD, u also use it. ormal hits its by 250-300 when we have FULL REZIST, but when we even lose 1 buff u make hits by 600-700. You whant hit for 1k++? Guys its nukker pt, u make 2x faster hits, so with hits by 1k i dont even write about magic Critics Nukk pt will smash all.
Archer pt dont make all the time critical hits, so its many hits for 200-250, than crt by 1k, or less if you hit Nukker/Tank.
Chujozord stop write sh1ts or learn l2, if u whant reduce Atribute - ok, but also reduce Windstorm to 10% and ChantOfprotection to 20% and we can fight.
Quote from: Navaro on July 05, 2010, 01:42:42 PM
For Example:
Protect on archer: (COP;30%, Windstorm 20%, EarthSong)
Wrong, we have attributes.
Quote from: Bav3 on July 05, 2010, 11:10:34 AM
y and they have icarus +10 baium+qa ::)
No idea maybe they have :D this is DragonNetwork place where is all possible
Maybe bow just look like carnage and its icarus we can;t know :D
Or maybe they have boss set
Money make the world go round
Quote from: Kazuki on July 05, 2010, 01:35:19 PM
It's funny comment made by archer, they all find normal that archer make 8-10times more dmg than mage ^^
I know archer>mage but there is limit to everything you know ? or do you get boner when you hit mage for 1.2k and he hit you for 120 ?
As it is, archer don't even need bishop in pvp, a pp is enough to heal seeing the lame damage mages do... or even better, an OL so they don't even loose HP xD
maybe u should use a bit stronger weapon than homu :D
Quote from: Shilen on July 05, 2010, 02:09:51 PM
maybe u should use a bit stronger weapon than homu :D
Another stupid comment, next one ?
I wasn't even here in Aden siege... but i'm sure exci where hitting you with apprentice rod, so that's why they were only hitting you for 120, how could i miss that ?
P.S: i just saw MasterGhost soloing Baium... another proof this server is totally freaked up.
Quote from: Bav3 on July 05, 2010, 02:28:29 PM
u kill us only when we are out of mana
while archer dont have mana problem
thats why our lovely NCSoft made the skill "Recharge" ::)
just a reminder, on offical server they dont have mana pots (i know there isnt stacksub and bugs etc, but it doesnt matter i think)
Quote from: Bav3 on July 05, 2010, 02:28:29 PM
u kill us only when we are out of mana
while archer dont have mana problem
QQ mister dane of blajdstor iz buged.
stop shiting me boy. yesterday you had plenty of l2w rechargers at your back. so cry me a river of tears huge like facking missisipi.
we kill you regardless you have or dont have mana.
Quote from: Shilen on July 05, 2010, 02:37:40 PM
thats why our lovely NCSoft made the skill "Recharge" ::)
just a reminder, on offical server they dont have mana pots (i know there isnt stacksub and bugs etc, but it doesnt matter i think)
I think it's pointles to disuss with that lame kid. he proved he's total noob at l2 (vide story about bugged bladestrom dance - lol i cant stop lauging), he knows shit about pvp or mass pvp and he posts shits here. you cannot convince retard :(.
Quote from: Shilen on July 05, 2010, 02:37:40 PM
thats why our lovely NCSoft made the skill "Recharge" ::)
just a reminder, on offical server they dont have mana pots (i know there isnt stacksub and bugs etc, but it doesnt matter i think)
but they can make 81 lvl and get blessing of eva - reuse 5 min restore full mana/hp/cp
it is rare to run out of mana on retail:
1. all parties have EE - there is no party without EE. nuker parties sometimes have 2 ee or 1 ee + 1 se who's only job is to heal and recharge bishop
2. enchanted clarity buff for power ( less mana cost ) - top clan ee's have +20 or more clarity
3. boe - blessing of eva, cooldown is arround 7-10 minutes though
4. mass recharge, arround 1500 mana - and with lots of ee in clan
5. invocation
6. elixirs
7. all parties have bishops 83+, all bishops 83+ have sublime self sacrifice - 5 sec celestial ( breakes if you make any action except movement) + full hp / mp for ALL clan in big range + remove all debuffs
8. mana gain buff = always on
9. +20 or more enchanted recharge
10. +10 or even more enchanted arcane wisdom
in a big pvp ( siege or epic raid pvp ) you never run out of mana
Quote from: OliveTrade on July 05, 2010, 03:27:48 PM
it is rare to run out of mana on retail:
1. all parties have EE - there is no party without EE. nuker parties sometimes have 2 ee or 1 ee + 1 se who's only job is to heal and recharge bishop
2. enchanted clarity buff for power ( less mana cost ) - top clan ee's have +20 or more clarity
3. boe - blessing of eva, cooldown is arround 7-10 minutes though
4. mass recharge, arround 1500 mana - and with lots of ee in clan
5. invocation
6. elixirs
7. all parties have bishops 83+, all bishops 83+ have sublime self sacrifice - 5 sec celestial ( breakes if you make any action except movement) + full hp / mp for ALL clan in big range + remove all debuffs
8. mana gain buff = always on
9. +20 or more enchanted recharge
10. +10 or even more enchanted arcane wisdom
in a big pvp ( siege or epic raid pvp ) you never run out of mana
those are workin here also, so if u can build a normal party, its hard to run out of mana still
as i know u can enchant clarity here but it gives nothing
and btw, on Inf, i had sps/es, i turned on both arcane and i used seraphim..and i always had mana, ty for EEs :P
Well I recieved sth like 4k+ dmg from one of Excidium mage (on aden siege) while having 1.5mdef + 60-80 resists on elements. Yes, I know it was a critical hit, but still - some ppl here whine that they got crit from full buffed archer for 1.2k dmg, it is just sad : )
Some1 have said it earlier, tanks should be fixed, on official like servers no mage can stand a chance against a good tank, here every single tank dies before he gets to his opponents.
Also, dmg from dagger skills is faked up (NO, not normal dmg, only skill ones)
Archers dmg works good now : )
And remember Mages always loose to Archers, if they don't it means sth is really fuked up : ) (I don't count pvp: good mage vs very noobish archer)
Quote from: ChujoZord on July 05, 2010, 03:09:09 PM
but they can make 81 lvl and get blessing of eva - reuse 5 min restore full mana/hp/cp
Who force you to play on stack sub?
Quote from: ChujoZord on July 05, 2010, 03:09:09 PM
but they can make 81 lvl and get blessing of eva - reuse 5 min restore full mana/hp/cp
not full cp... its a random amount of cp / full hp and mp
Quote from: Bav3 on July 05, 2010, 06:51:14 PM
recharger cant recharge 10 min how long is pvp ::)
i guess a party vs party (or less for e.g. 3vs3) pvp is not 10 mins long.
in mass pvp (i mean more party vs more party) u have more rechargers (i guess..)
Quote from: Toszi on July 05, 2010, 06:48:24 PM
Who force you to play on stack sub?
Your answer is like: two guys talking about PvP and you jump in with text "But I like cum on my face!"
Quote from: ChujoZord on July 05, 2010, 09:06:03 PM
Your answer is like: two guys talking about PvP and you jump in with text "But I like cum on my face!"
u mad? ;D
Quote from: ChujoZord on July 05, 2010, 09:06:03 PM
Your answer is like: two guys talking about PvP and you jump in with text "But I like cum on my face!"
Use your brain. ;)
Quote from: ChujoZord on July 04, 2010, 06:35:56 PM
* PvP DMG - Do you want to make all freaking fixes only to archers? I already hit them for 70-100 (on full mage resist) they hit 500-1200 (on full archer resist) where the freak is balance here if they hit 5 or 8 times more. (Yes I also have attributes in weapon)
Proofs:
http://yfrog.com/f/jploldvp/ (Shield,G Shield,Song of Earth,Song of WindStorm,Chant of Protection,Deflect Arrow,VIctories of Paagrio,Song of Elemental) Check them dmg made on tank.
http://www.filefront.com/16964789/Siege-Aden-04.07.2010.wmv/ (full movie from siege) :]
http://yfrog.com/f/5ulol2zlp/ (Full Matk Buff+ AM with lots of attributes) look also that this guys dont have S sets with Attributes so with it it gonna be pure ownage.
* Baium - Now he is easier then Zaken. Possible to kill by 1 Poor Archer Party (Next Boost for Archer)
We already tested him on mages. Awesome nerf I think that you only nerfed his p def because ty/de is hitting 35k mage is hitting 300.
* RaidBosses - Possible to kill with 4 archers + support.
Also you only nerfed them p def.
Calculating - Good Game.
Keep think on it Admins. You freaked up all mages. :]
Quote from: ChujoZord on July 04, 2010, 06:35:56 PM
* PvP DMG - Do you want to make all freaking fixes only to archers? I already hit them for 70-100 (on full mage resist) they hit 500-1200 (on full archer resist) where the freak is balance here if they hit 5 or 8 times more. (Yes I also have attributes in weapon)
Proofs:
http://yfrog.com/f/jploldvp/ (Shield,G Shield,Song of Earth,Song of WindStorm,Chant of Protection,Deflect Arrow,VIctories of Paagrio,Song of Elemental) Check them dmg made on tank.
http://www.filefront.com/16964789/Siege-Aden-04.07.2010.wmv/ (full movie from siege) :]
http://yfrog.com/f/5ulol2zlp/ (Full Matk Buff+ AM with lots of attributes) look also that this guys dont have S sets with Attributes so with it it gonna be pure ownage.
* Baium - Now he is easier then Zaken. Possible to kill by 1 Poor Archer Party (Next Boost for Archer)
We already tested him on mages. Awesome nerf I think that you only nerfed his p def because ty/de is hitting 35k mage is hitting 300.
* RaidBosses - Possible to kill with 4 archers + support.
Also you only nerfed them p def.
Calculating - Good Game.
Keep think on it Admins. You freaked up all mages. :]
Totaly agree with you.With 3.1k m atack and 60 wind atribut I hit chars in A grade gear for 200 dmg.Vortex Crit 900 LOL!
Quote from: Akira on July 05, 2010, 05:31:22 PM
Well I recieved sth like 4k+ dmg from one of Excidium mage (on aden siege) while having 1.5mdef + 60-80 resists on elements. Yes, I know it was a critical hit, but still - some ppl here whine that they got crit from full buffed archer for 1.2k dmg, it is just sad : )
Some1 have said it earlier, tanks should be fixed, on official like servers no mage can stand a chance against a good tank, here every single tank dies before he gets to his opponents.
Also, dmg from dagger skills is faked up (NO, not normal dmg, only skill ones)
Archers dmg works good now : )
And remember Mages always loose to Archers, if they don't it means sth is really fuked up : ) (I don't count pvp: good mage vs very noobish archer)
Quote from: k0dex on July 06, 2010, 10:33:48 AM
Some1 have said it earlier, tanks should be fixed, on official like servers no mage can stand a chance against a good tank, here every single tank dies before he gets to his opponents.
Also, dmg from dagger skills is faked up (NO, not normal dmg, only skill ones)
+1
Ech, i want to see any crazy 4 archers killing RB's, our 2 pt with full buff was killig Glaki in about 10 min, Almost all with QA and DB+F with atributs. Two full partys!
Next one if I just leave town w/o full resist i'm getting 2k dmg form every hit, not m.crit.
After that, archers are slower but they should be stronger and we don't have fast res, like sps/ee for example, which is realy depressing on mass pvp. I'm not telling that i'm complaing on fast res in mage side but i'm saying that this advantage is on mage side, like better dmg should be advantage on archer's side.
Peace ;)
Quote from: Smirnek on July 06, 2010, 11:02:55 AM
Ech, i want to see any crazy 4 archers killing RB's, our 2 pt with full buff was killig Glaki in about 10 min, Almost all with QA and DB+F with atributs. Two full partys!
Next one if I just leave town w/o full resist i'm getting 2k dmg form every hit, not m.crit.
After that, archers are slower but they should be stronger and we don't have fast res, like sps/ee for example, which is realy depressing on mass pvp. I'm not telling that i'm complaing on fast res in mage side but i'm saying that this advantage is on mage side, like better dmg should be advantage on archer's side.
Peace ;)
difference between dmg 20x is ok? Oo
omg cry cry more
hmm in last sige we hit u for 1k max even less, u hit us for 200-500 normal hit m.crits 4x more ofc, dude, learn how to count or go back to elementary school
We need to change few things but together if u or we will stand all the time in Nukker or Archer side server will crush because will be unbalanced, and ppl will change chars. If you rly want boost Nukkers - ok. Its not problem to get on second retail Nukkers pt. But what for, lets change together some things w/o flames.
IMO l2 was balanced till C5/C6 chronicle. Hellbound - Nukker pt rox, because Windstorm and COP, Gracia Final - Dagger PT rox.
It's Sub stack server, so in 1 pt you dont have 3 or 4 Nukkers/DD who make dmg, but 7. I know that you make silly dmg, but we have every atribute 60-110. Like u saw on baium, when we lose 1 or 2 buffs u make NORMAL hits by 600, m.crts by 1.7+. Archer make max 1k DMG, and u only need 2 Protection's (SOng of Windstorm , COP = 50% lower archer critic). Not every hit its crytic, normal hits = 180-200.
PvP its too long imo, its hard to kill 1 target. If we want better dmg on pvp, ok we can make it, but also change Windstorm and COP, lets have hits by 1.5k-2k in both sides. LIke smirnek said, nukkers hit 2x faster than archers, so yours 600dmg its like your 1.2, and you have all the time normal 600dmg, what when 7ppl in pt make Magic Crt hit?
You guys are kinde of hypocrite kids, while you kill Baium also in 1 pt, (1Tyr/DE) you stop cry about Baium :) I piss on it how long should be killable Epic, or RB it can be even 10 min but i whant pvp for it, let PVP decide who will get DROP, not fuking number of pts.
Quote from: Navaro on July 06, 2010, 12:05:42 PM
u only need 2 Protection's (SOng of Windstorm , COP = 50% lower archer critic)
Again, we have attribute system. Those 2 buffs arent enough.
Quote from: Smirnek on July 06, 2010, 11:02:55 AM
we don't have fast res, like sps/ee for example, which is realy depressing on mass pvp. I'm not telling that i'm complaing on fast res in mage side but i'm saying that this advantage is on mage side, like better dmg should be advantage on archer's side.
Peace ;)
You don't have fast res ? blame yourself if you make pt full of archers without any Bishop etc...
Anyway are GMs here still alive ? there are lot of bugs going on but we never hear a damn word from them about it.
a thing like "We're working on this and this" would be nice.
Cause everyday i feel more and more that GMs are totally ignoring bugs going on this server or maybe just unable to fix them ?
Some buffs are just useless here cause we have only 2 lines of buffs. There should be 3rd line for dances/songs like on every HB server
But here u need to choose ofensive or defensive style.
Quote from: Navaro on July 06, 2010, 12:05:42 PM
lets have hits by 1.5k-2k in both sides.
+1
Quote from: Kazuki on July 06, 2010, 12:42:42 PM
Anyway are GMs here still alive ? there are lot of bugs going on but we never hear a damn word from them about it.
a thing like "We're working on this and this" would be nice.
Cause everyday i feel more and more that GMs are totally ignoring bugs going on this server or maybe just unable to fix them ?
This is rly most annoying things here. There should be list with future fixes uploading by GMs so all will know what they are working at.
This server should be in BETA stage lol
Quote from: Ryoko on July 06, 2010, 12:58:58 PM
Some buffs are just useless here cause we have only 2 lines of buffs. There should be 3rd line for dances/songs like on every HB server
But here u need to choose ofensive or defensive style.
+1
3rd line for d/s its in Gracia Final. Anyway plz ppl like deiwidaz stop write sh1ts like Exi do. You don't know anythink about l2 system etc, you grow up on Dragon, where its small % from official NCSOFT. COP + windstorm = max hits on normal nukker 1.2k, hit on PAL/Necro + TP and deflect arrow i guess 300 on crt.
Quote from: Navaro on July 06, 2010, 01:27:05 PM
3rd line for d/s its in Gracia Final. Anyway plz ppl like deiwidaz stop write sh1ts like Exi do. You don't know anythink about l2 system etc, you grow up on Dragon, where its small % from official NCSOFT. COP + windstorm = max hits on normal nukker 1.2k, hit on PAL/Necro + TP and deflect arrow i guess 300 on crt.
freaking tard,bar for d/s come from hb no gracia final,if you don't know a sh1t don't talk
Quote from: Navaro on July 06, 2010, 01:27:05 PM
3rd line for d/s its in Gracia Final. Anyway plz ppl like deiwidaz stop write sh1ts like Exi do. You don't know anythink about l2 system etc, you grow up on Dragon, where its small % from official NCSOFT. COP + windstorm = max hits on normal nukker 1.2k, hit on PAL/Necro + TP and deflect arrow i guess 300 on crt.
still dunno why mages think that archers should hit them low dmg when they are in paper (robe..)
even with full resist, its still Robe
just think about it, mages can cast 3 times faster (like Es/sps, but at least 2 times faster) than archer shoots
i guess u screened ur dmg when they were in party UD (i didnt see the movie)
if yes then its useless to cry..
if not, then okay, maybe the mage dmg is a bit low
Quote from: Smirnek on July 06, 2010, 11:43:15 AM
hmm in last sige we hit u for 1k max even less, u hit us for 200-500 normal hit m.crits 4x more ofc, dude, learn how to count or go back to elementary school
Screen/fraps plox
Just look on DMG panel, or u are as limited as MasterGhost , oneHanded or oneEyed? You start to cry after when u cam on our pt with full rezist. Why the freak u wasn't cry about Nukker DMG when u fight with Infinitty at Aden? :D
Learn to play, stop write sh1ts about 90-100 dmg, maybe on PartyUD. If u whant we can make 9vs9 with GM. You whant biggest dmg - ok, but reduce also Windstorm and ChantOfProtection. Nukker and Archer make max 1k dmg on massiv pvp, but Nukkers hits 2, or 3x faster (Sps/ES 2.3k ++ cst speed).
Quote from: Kazuki on July 06, 2010, 12:42:42 PM
You don't have fast res ? blame yourself if you make pt full of archers without any Bishop etc...
Ofc we had bishop and not one but two on every pt. I'm just telling that mages have necro/pp, sps/ee , sh/se itp. And half of mages party have res. And of u can say "make pr/se or he/pp" but think about cst speed and how useless this class for mass pvp are. After all we he/bish is kind of absurd compare to necro/bish ;)
Quote from: ChujoZord on July 06, 2010, 02:08:50 PM
Screen/fraps plox
Quote from: Sev3n on July 03, 2010, 01:08:15 AM
Here is a movie Full Buff and Ressisted Archers vs Mage , check DMG
http://www.filefront.com/16943447/l2%202010-07-03%2000-47-24-77.AVI
::)
Quote from: Smirnek on July 06, 2010, 02:21:31 PM
Ofc we had bishop and not one but two on every pt. I'm just telling that mages have necro/pp, sps/ee , sh/se itp. And half of mages party have res. And of u can say "make pr/se or he/pp" but think about cst speed and how useless this class for mass pvp are. After all we he/bish is kind of absurd compare to necro/bish ;)
Well yes for sure they have more res available and faster but full buff, res cool down isn't that long so except if you keep dying, 2 bishops should be enough i think.
And btw for those arguing about when was implanted 3rd line buff for dance/song, it was Gracia Part 1 -> source: http://www.lineage2.com/news/gracia_13.html
But personally, as they implemented skills from Gracia (which means more buffs available), they should have implemented this 3rd line buff because i'm pretty sure NCSOFT implemented it because they added new buff and that 24 slots weren't enough anymore with dance/song.
SelfOwned Exkidum. Aden siege Fraps show how poor dmg u made. MasterGhost hit by 3k etc.
Quote from: Kazuki on July 06, 2010, 02:32:20 PM
But personally, as they implemented skills from Gracia (which means more buffs available), they should have implemented this 3rd line buff because i'm pretty sure NCSOFT implemented it because they added new buff and that 24 slots weren't enough anymore with dance/song.
And they didnt have selbuffs from 2 classes and potions.
ok 1st of all gms dont bother to read all this shit ;]
2nd archer dmg is still not enough
here is the proof:
baium+qa
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/1546/shot00005mz.jpg
(no elemnta protection bcos it was 1st and I got debuffed, nvm, this screen shows MY dmg.
but let it be, lets say about mages.
Mages hit like UZI 2k c.speed, but its quite easy to get protections vs them. You cant expect hit 1k when enemy is 110 rezisted (for water in example) and 2k m.def. Like masterghost, guy hit me 200 but he dind used surrender (or I rezisted ?) or vortex.
Quote from: Bav3 on July 06, 2010, 02:58:11 PM
i just dont know what u want prove with this ss?
mby he had pt ud or smth or ud
and u cant expect high crits with sr ;)
sure u can :)
with SR i hit for 2k+ usually for mages w/o UD for sure (well, i have a bit more pattack..and more attribute, 200+ atm)
but k0dex ur dyes sux :P 3,1k pattack with valor is low even with SR
Quote from: Navaro on July 06, 2010, 02:16:57 PM
Just look on DMG panel, or u are as limited as MasterGhost , oneHanded or oneEyed? You start to cry after when u cam on our pt with full rezist. Why the freak u wasn't cry about Nukker DMG when u fight with Infinitty at Aden? :D
Learn to play, stop write sh1ts about 90-100 dmg, maybe on PartyUD. If u whant we can make 9vs9 with GM. You whant biggest dmg - ok, but reduce also Windstorm and ChantOfProtection. Nukker and Archer make max 1k dmg on massiv pvp, but Nukkers hits 2, or 3x faster (Sps/ES 2.3k ++ cst speed).
Idiot I talk about difference between max resist all the time. This difference is like 20x higher dmg. Im freaking loled next tiem learn to read.
I have played on OFF and I perfectly know how it suppose to look.
Quote from: ChujoZord on July 06, 2010, 03:47:31 PM
Idiot I talk about difference between max resist all the time. This difference is like 20x higher dmg. Im freaking loled next tiem learn to read.
I have played on OFF and I perfectly know how it suppose to look.
DN =/= OFF ::)
10 pages of nonsense ... and it would have took 1 post to conclude that elemental attributes don't work properly. most exactly element protections.
1. archer damage is fine
2. mage damage is fine
3. there's something wrong with protections.
my suspicion is this: before attributes were added elemental protections ( resists + elemental protection + songs/dances of type) did a -% magical damage. now, with attributes added PROBABLY ( i do not have acces to server files, this is just a hunch ) they add both +element protection and -% magical damage from that element.
I'll speak to torn/descent see if this is as I just aid and see what we can do about it.
AGAIN IN HUGE CAPS !!! THIS IS ONLY A HUNCH !!!!!
Quote from: jailaa on July 06, 2010, 04:08:20 PM
10 pages of nonsense ... and it would have took 1 post to conclude that elemental attributes don't work properly. most exactly element protections.
1. archer damage is fine
2. mage damage is fine
3. there's something wrong with protections.
+1 ::)
(yeah, 300 post ;D)
Quote from: Navaro on July 06, 2010, 01:27:05 PM
Anyway plz ppl like deiwidaz stop write sh1ts like Exi do. You don't know anythink about l2 system etc, you grow up on Dragon, where its small % from official NCSOFT. COP + windstorm = max hits on normal nukker 1.2k, hit on PAL/Necro + TP and deflect arrow i guess 300 on crt.
First of all, dont call everyone, who dont agree with your opinion excidium player or stuff like that.
2nd, quote me where i said something about l2 or whatever, except that you need more buffs vs archers then just 2 which you listed.
3rd, l2 system? You are in fcking dragon community.
Quote from: deiwidaz on July 06, 2010, 12:31:02 PM
Again, we have attribute system. Those 2 buffs arent enough.
Here u go. Those 2 buffs arent enough? I won't write about EarthChant, SongOfEarth , and COV because its obviousness that nukk pt always have it. So don't write that this 2 buffs arent enought to protect nukker by archer crts. On official server HE (DB+focus, Baium, QA) on full buff made max 1.2crt hits on Nukker, here u have Pal subs (majesty, Deflect arrow).
GM should see S3ven Fraps from adenSiege. Because some1 write bullshits that they make hits by 100-200, all the time i saw +/- 500-600 hits Magic.Crts by 2k. Few times maybe was PTUD thats why hits by 100.
http://tinypic.pl/i/00009/7anwevc4uklj.bmp
yaya
mage/tank 1k crt
mage 2k max
low low low
Quote from: MilySkurwiel on July 06, 2010, 06:11:01 PM
http://tinypic.pl/i/00009/7anwevc4uklj.bmp
yaya
mage/tank 1k crt
mage 2k max
low low low
at least u know how to dye :D
btw nice pattack
Quote from: Navaro on July 06, 2010, 06:08:34 PM
Here u go. Those 2 buffs arent enough? I won't write about EarthChant, SongOfEarth , and COV because its obviousness that nukk pt always have it. So don't write that this 2 buffs arent enought to protect nukker by archer crts. On official server HE (DB+focus, Baium, QA) on full buff made max 1.2crt hits on Nukker, here u have Pal subs (majesty, Deflect arrow).
GM should see S3ven Fraps from adenSiege. Because some1 write bullshits that they make hits by 100-200, all the time i saw +/- 500-600 hits Magic.Crts by 2k. Few times maybe was PTUD thats why hits by 100.
Nope, not earth chant, p.def song and not cov.
Quote from: Bav3 on July 06, 2010, 07:37:04 PM
well i think its enough to make dance of storm blade longer and all will be fine
15->30 sec
coz 15 sec is rly to low
Do you want to mess with pig, or you are realy stupid? :D
you are stupid !!!!!
dance of blade storm = 90% resist bow
give me 90% resist water/fire etc
Quote from: MilySkurwiel on July 06, 2010, 08:57:35 PM
you are stupid !!!!!
dance of blade storm = 90% resist bow
ye and -90% of m attack ^^
Quote from: Lecktor on July 04, 2010, 07:03:28 PM
we killed valakas whit 1 party archers, so what
@ all eople can make a archer QQ QQ QQ moar
go donate your brain
Quote from: Bav3 on July 06, 2010, 08:54:38 PM
ok so make ressist water and other 15 sec and np ;)
So the 2nd option.
Maybe we found the problem? All exci party use blade storm? Mage party with blade storm vs archer party with party ud and resists. Its looks like... hm... FAIL? :D
my dyes are my business. and bav3 gz this time u show how retarded u are,plz dont give a shit that something was on another dn server. I see dragon kids didnt play real l2 on normal servers;] how pathetic you are, wts l2 lessons.
plox atleast I know how buffs should work and how looks real l2, kids of DN dont. You can always take lesson from masterghost who dont use keyboard and click hes skills by mouse lol. btw mage is same shit, f1 f2
first of all archer is not only f1 same as mage, we have stuns, cp pots, elixirs, lethal shot, hit and run to use advantage in 1100 range.
masterghost is overrated, he didnt show anything on this server yet, except farming. I see you play necro very good, I must admit, but kiddo talking like "enc+galaxia" owned making you look funny man;] but im worried about hero skills on stacksub, we screwed oly bcos we counted only on stacksub, "why we need heroes if we cant get hero skills on stack"?
but ofc BuggedNetwork cant stop suprise me. Gms said this server will be close to retail, just stacksub, but I see that nothing, NOTHING here is normal...
forwarding
http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,222023.72.html <-- check me screen DMG PR
instead of turning the mages can just give more damage for archers
dmg check PR sead
how to kill mages as a party to res
dmg cry max 600 (PR) (SR cry 400dmg)
should archers hit for 500dmg? be real
1.3k less dmg imo
whene u have rezist archer i no can get more 1k dmg....... o m g .... and is and
more emo QQ
Quote from: MrYoOcker on July 07, 2010, 11:47:14 AM
whene u have rezist archer i no can get more 1k dmg....... o m g .... and is and
more emo QQ
no pls it was funny :<
didnt read all of that but didnt MasterGhost first cry that 1 party can kill baium and then bigmouthed on hero that he soloed him? a lil paradox for me
cheers ~
Is funny to see that Galaxia > Baium.
The spawn time of baium is 2 days + .
Soon you will see , 150 Baiums on server, the price will be at 30 Coins.
Something must happen. Baium shold be stronger , and spawntime should be about 1 week. +-
Quote from: Dei on July 07, 2010, 03:03:29 PM
Is funny to see that Galaxia > Baium.
The spawn time of baium is 2 days + .
Soon you will see , 150 Baiums on server, the price will be at 30 Coins.
Something must happen. Baium shold be stronger , and spawntime should be about 1 week. +-
+1
Quote from: Sev3n on July 07, 2010, 05:57:19 PM
+1
yea agree too that this is sick.. but to tease u up a bit, in that case u should give back baium ring along with changing baium :p ..in that case i would admit a respect to your opinion of "+1" :p
Quote from: Dei on July 07, 2010, 03:03:29 PM
Is funny to see that Galaxia > Baium.
The spawn time of baium is 2 days + .
Soon you will see , 150 Baiums on server, the price will be at 30 Coins.
Something must happen. Baium shold be stronger , and spawntime should be about 1 week. +-
Maybe 1 year? LMAO its not epic like Anthy, Valky Tezza, he wont get many drops etc. You write sh1ts because you'r not based on Archer, but on Nukker so its uslles for you. Now you cry about it, to dont get biggest crts by our archer. So Pathetic.
Next DragonKid who never play on retail 1week ++ yea right... ::). Go fight for it if you afraid about drop.
Quote from: Navaro on July 07, 2010, 06:23:41 PM
Maybe 1 year? LMAO its not epic like Anthy, Valky Tezza, he wont get many drops etc. You write sh1ts because you'r not based on Archer, but on Nukker so its uslles for you. Now you cry about it, to dont get biggest crts by our archer. So Pathetic.
Next DragonKid who never play on retail 1week ++ yea right... ::). Go fight for it if you afraid about drop.
You are loosing all picture here,but what can i ask from you