Tyr/Ol Tyr/Wc Tyr/Des These chars start oly with zealot and bison. They have full hp with those two skills when fight start.
There is no chance to win with them. They own oly.
How it is possible that noobs with ds+7+8+9 worth 30 coins wins with ppl who have ic weapon +8,9,10 worth 300-400 coins.
Gm pls do something with this.
All what i wrote u can see on oly.
BTW i write this post for my friend coz he cant register on forum can u do smth with that?
Sry for my english
Quote from: luckyluke13 on September 16, 2010, 02:54:59 PM
Tyr/Ol Tyr/Wc Tyr/Des These chars start oly with zealot and bison. They have full hp with those two skills when fight start.
There is no chance to win with them. They own oly.
How it is possible that noobs with ds+7+8+9 worth 30 coins wins with ppl who have ic weapon +8,9,10 worth 300-400 coins.
Gm pls do something with this.
All what i writen u can see on oly.
BTW i write this post for my friend coz he cant register on forum can u do smth with that?
Sry for my english
If people with worse equip can beat those with top gear, who is noob then? Equip is not everything...
They own only cause gms facked up bison skill and of the delay they added to those using skills. Welcome to DN. I am just curious why they added the Agenta in forum if they don't do what they wrote on that unless random events are the server's freezes and login server down every 5 mins.
Quote from: Ashlynn on September 16, 2010, 02:57:27 PM
If people with worse equip can beat those with top gear, who is noob then? Equip is not everything...
So try fight with them, mby u are noob to...
I think the problem is that tyr/ol tyr/wc use zealot before fight
Quote from: luckyluke13 on September 16, 2010, 02:54:59 PM
Tyr/Ol Tyr/Wc Tyr/Des These chars start oly with zealot and bison. They have full hp with those two skills when fight start.
There is no chance to win with them. They own oly.
How it is possible that noobs with ds+7+8+9 worth 30 coins wins with ppl who have ic weapon +8,9,10 worth 300-400 coins.
Gm pls do something with this.
All what i writen u can see on oly.
BTW i write this post for my friend coz he cant register on forum can u do smth with that?
Sry for my english
ty/ol ty/wc is op on oly because we have delay o nskils
Quote from: luckyluke13 on September 16, 2010, 02:54:59 PM
How it is possible that noobs with ds+7+8+9 worth 30 coins wins with ppl who have ic weapon +8,9,10 worth 300-400 coins.
i beat archers with ic bows with my MA set and AM+a+3 who is the noob? :D
Quote from: Gonzal on September 16, 2010, 03:07:30 PM
i beat archers with ic bows with my MA set and AM+a+3 who is the noob? :D
Yeah, when they are afk ;D
Quote from: luckyluke13 on September 16, 2010, 02:54:59 PM
Tyr/Ol Tyr/Wc Tyr/Des These chars start oly with zealot and bison. They have full hp with those two skills when fight start.
There is no chance to win with them. They own oly.
How it is possible that noobs with ds+7+8+9 worth 30 coins wins with ppl who have ic weapon +8,9,10 worth 300-400 coins.
Gm pls do something with this.
All what i writen u can see on oly.
BTW i write this post for my friend coz he cant register on forum can u do smth with that?
Sry for my english
y now bizon and 100% hp= 450 critical QQ
Quote from: luckyluke13 on September 16, 2010, 02:54:59 PM
Tyr/Ol Tyr/Wc Tyr/Des These chars start oly with zealot and bison. They have full hp with those two skills when fight start.
There is no chance to win with them. They own oly.
How it is possible that noobs with ds+7+8+9 worth 30 coins wins with ppl who have ic weapon +8,9,10 worth 300-400 coins.
Gm pls do something with this.
All what i writen u can see on oly.
BTW i write this post for my friend coz he cant register on forum can u do smth with that?
Sry for my english
I Support this post.
And again ppl want to f*ck the orcs xDD ... jajaja... do you know that they are the ones always nerfed on every update? and pls try to understand this: they were and are supposed to be the strongest race... so... try to find another way to fight against them, stop complaining 'cos GMs always make something to make the orc weaker; in this last update my orc was nerfed like 3 times... i have the right to play with an orc, and you shouldn't change my skills/stats/strategies...
Quote from: luckyluke13 on September 16, 2010, 03:04:17 PM
So try fight with them, mby u are noob to...
I think the problem is that tyr/ol tyr/wc use zealot before fight
rofl. with the current delay on skills, the tyrants will have problems spamming the force (ranged) skills. they are dangerous only on close quarters (melee) combat. just keep the distance, kite or slow them and you will win.
and thet guy asking who is noob was right lol.
Quote from: k0rina on September 16, 2010, 04:58:18 PM
i dont wanna hurt ur feelings but i bet u are 1 more random wannabe that donated 350 euros and took ica++ and dnet and decided go "rule" oly and u met a guyz with ds+6/7 and u got owneD so u decided make this post ...
if i am not right correct me please ::)
Like i wrote before it is post for my friend who cant register in forum coz it is disabled atm, so this guy not owned me.
U dont understand what i mean. Read it once again...
I bet u are one more spammer in this forum, who even dont read all post, only see ocasion to spam.
If i am not right correct me please :)
Cry more till nerf
Lol now tyrant have only chance win fight just face a face becouse of delay skill we hit from distance so slow... So what a problem is kurwa buy rabit tatos lvl 4 and just run till zealot go off or force barier and use any debufs slow ? You are retarted if you rly want nerf again orcs stop cry and go pick lesson how to play your char n/c moron.
i dont understand why ppl who doesnt play on nm now r trying to be tho most wise :P
the guy is right. now on oly normal hits r best beacuse no dealy as on skill and 100% working atribute on weapon. so orcs and archers own oly now
yeah try run when orcs got +5dex from dyes, totem rabit, zaeolt and tatoos rabit :)
i saw few fights when guy was trying run away, no chance. he chase him and use criple. after that u can only say GF
Quote from: luckyluke13 on September 16, 2010, 02:54:59 PM
Tyr/Ol Tyr/Wc Tyr/Des These chars start oly with zealot and bison. They have full hp with those two skills when fight start.
There is no chance to win with them. They own oly.
How it is possible that noobs with ds+7+8+9 worth 30 coins wins with ppl who have ic weapon +8,9,10 worth 300-400 coins.
Gm pls do something with this.
All what i wrote u can see on oly.
BTW i write this post for my friend coz he cant register on forum can u do smth with that?
Sry for my english
keep crying or make an orc!
Quote from: Kafaro on September 16, 2010, 05:39:54 PM
i dont understand why ppl who doesnt play on nm now r trying to be tho most wise :P
the guy is right. now on oly normal hits r best beacuse no dealy as on skill and 100% working atribute on weapon. so orcs and archers own oly now
ye +1 bizon shout be like frezny
just remove this dealy on skills and problem solved
Quote from: Kafaro on September 16, 2010, 05:43:11 PM
yeah try run when orcs got +5dex from dyes, totem rabit, zaeolt and tatoos rabit :)
i saw few fights when guy was trying run away, no chance. he chase him and use criple. after that u can only say GF
totem rabit ? so for what uc ry ? do you think kurwa on rabit totem orc have 500 crt rate ? comon dont be funny kafaro :>
Quote from: WindPhoenix on September 16, 2010, 05:16:54 PM
rofl. with the current delay on skills, the tyrants will have problems spamming the force (ranged) skills. they are dangerous only on close quarters (melee) combat. just keep the distance, kite or slow them and you will win.
and thet guy asking who is noob was right lol.
No. The guy asking who is noob was wrong.
The NOOB is guy who play as long as u and let scam themself ===>when wanted to buy dnet u bought dynasty instead of dnet ;D
Btw i see u only on this forum not in the game so spam more.....
Quote from: qwertyzxc on September 16, 2010, 06:30:55 PM
totem rabit ? so for what uc ry ? do you think kurwa on rabit totem orc have 500 crt rate ? comon dont be funny kafaro :>
So you smart say to run 1:30 min till zealot end and after that what? He will be left with half hp max and he will try to lower his full hp/cp? Or you think that without zealot orcs hit 100 dmg?
Quote from: VforVanilla on September 16, 2010, 08:01:32 PM
So you smart say to run 1:30 min till zealot end and after that what? He will be left with half hp left0max and he will try to lower his full hp/cp? Or you think that without zealot orcs hit 100 dmg?
Omg kids owning this forum if zealot go off orc run slower / have slower atk spt all his stats go down so where is the kurwa problem to make distance and hit from distance ?:| If ur f1 f1 f1 spamer archer so i can understand you are unskilled but use sometimes brain and try any debufs slow / trance sleep root dunno kurwa on lineage u have a lot faking skills so stop qq and just try to find other way to kill orcs.
tyrants were always beatable, if u're a melee fighter running is pointless - after the zealot is gone u'll have like 50% hp or even less
and if u're a daggerist just go full evasion setup, it works - believe me :)
Quote from: qwertyzxc on September 16, 2010, 09:09:02 PM
Omg kids owning this forum if zealot go off orc run slower / have slower atk spt all his stats go down so where is the kurwa problem to make distance and hit from distance ?:| If ur f1 f1 f1 spamer archer so i can understand you are unskilled but use sometimes brain and try any debufs slow / trance sleep root dunno kurwa on lineage u have a lot faking skills so stop qq and just try to find other way to kill orcs.
Retard tell me how to win if i am dagger?
Quote from: spashqq on September 16, 2010, 09:15:27 PM
tyrants were always beatable, if u're a melee fighter running is pointless - after the zealot is gone u'll have like 50% hp or even less
and if u're a daggerist just go full evasion setup, it works - believe me :)
Full evasion setup won't help your ass as when you are half hp and he is full. Believe me he has way too big accuracy to pass you 5 crits and thats all.If he see that he has problems he will use barrier and what you are gonna do? run again for 10 secs to take 2 blasters and bye bye. I didn't say that orcs were overpowered before, but now having all time 400+ critical is stupid.
Quote from: VforVanilla on September 16, 2010, 09:57:53 PM
Full evasion setup won't help your ass as when you are half hp and he is full. Believe me he has way too big accuracy to pass you 5 crits and thats all.If he see that he has problems he will use barrier and what you are gonna do? run again for 10 secs to take 2 blasters and bye bye. I didn't say that orcs were overpowered before, but now having all time 400+ critical is stupid.
Dude... i think that we are playing a different game, ask any good orc how was it vs me at that setup
Quote from: spashqq on September 16, 2010, 10:25:23 PM
Dude... i think that we are playing a different game, ask any good orc how was it vs me at that setup
And i say it to you again. Before the "updates" i didn't have so much problem which means i didn't have delay between my skills neithers orcs start battle where starting with full critical. You said it for yourself: When i was playing - which mean you haven't play now to see how is the situation.
Quote from: luckyluke13 on September 16, 2010, 07:38:31 PM
No. The guy asking who is noob was wrong.
The NOOB is guy who play as long as u and let scam themself ===>when wanted to buy dnet u bought dynasty instead of dnet ;D
Btw i see u only on this forum not in the game so spam more.....
sue me kiddo and go qq about getting owned by tyrants and dwafs and god knows what. you're a really really sad case.
Quote from: VforVanilla on September 16, 2010, 09:57:53 PM
Full evasion setup won't help your ass as when you are half hp and he is full. Believe me he has way too big accuracy to pass you 5 crits and thats all.If he see that he has problems he will use barrier and what you are gonna do? run again for 10 secs to take 2 blasters and bye bye. I didn't say that orcs were overpowered before, but now having all time 400+ critical is stupid.
lol if th have any idea how to play a th i have low chance to hit him i can have bison frenzy zealot and 19/20 hit i missing becouse of his big evasion so stop talk bullshits. Just read spash post :>> he was many times hero and good th/pp so i think he know smth about it ;:>
Quote from: VforVanilla on September 16, 2010, 10:34:17 PM
And i say it to you again. Before the "updates" i didn't have so much problem which means i didn't have delay between my skills neithers orcs start battle where starting with full critical. You said it for yourself: When i was playing - which mean you haven't play now to see how is the situation.
so .. u got delay on skills, orcs got delay on skills too
means all they gonna do is normal hits which is fuked up at high evasion :)
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Quote from: spashqq on September 16, 2010, 10:51:08 PM
so .. u got delay on skills, orcs got delay on skills too
means all they gonna do is normal hits which is fuked up at high evasion :)
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spash orcs got uber boost . we both were killing them easy and now is kurwa like double lucif in our times XD
Quote from: qwertyzxc on September 16, 2010, 10:49:25 PM
lol if th have any idea how to play a th i have low chance to hit him i can have bison frenzy zealot and 19/20 hit i missing becouse of his big evasion so stop talk bullshits. Just read spash post :>> he was many times hero and good th/pp so i think he know smth about it ;:>
Dude last time i speak to you. Now in oly you play Ty/De Not Ty/Wc so stop speaking like you speak for all tyrants of oly. Can you tell me the last 3-4 days a good dagger char that killed a good ty/wc char? As for the evasion crap this is a joke as my tyrant with wc buffs/finteza/bison/zealot has 150 accuraccy at lvl 80!!!!! Can you imagine him wearing sniper tattoos? He will have more acuracy than what have a th in ue.
Nerf ES/SPS's, THEY'RE OVERPOWERED!!!!
Ok, sry for spam....
I'm going to sleep a bit
Quote from: VforVanilla on September 16, 2010, 11:25:38 PM
Dude last time i speak to you. Now in oly you play Ty/De Not Ty/Wc so stop speaking like you speak for all tyrants of oly. Can you tell me the last 3-4 days a good dagger char that killed a good ty/wc char? As for the evasion crap this is a joke as my tyrant with wc buffs/finteza/bison/zealot has 150 accuraccy at lvl 80!!!!! Can you imagine him wearing sniper tattoos? He will have more acuracy than what have a th in ue.
he is tyr/wc :) since his tyr/de got perma banned
Quote from: seboulba on September 17, 2010, 12:29:54 AM
he is tyr/wc :) since his tyr/de got perma banned
I dont have more question for this guy if he think im still ty/des ~~~:D Like 2 days ago i join oly ( yea im not still full of items like before but i have dyna some rbs jawels ) and i playd vs saddam and when he use just evasion i miss all hits so stop talk bullshits evasion is sh1t ;)
evasion is szit :) with orc u just hit normal hits which r best now. dagers and other chars use skills which got delay so...
and if u think u can run away from orc u r funny or u dont know nothing about oly
Quote from: Kafaro on September 17, 2010, 08:18:43 PM
evasion is szit :) with orc u just hit normal hits which r best now. dagers and other chars use skills which got delay so...
and if u think u can run away from orc u r funny or u dont know nothing about oly
usea brain :))) dash + bow qq :>>>> or hit run hit run omg ...
Quote from: qwertyzxc on September 17, 2010, 09:25:41 PM
usea brain :))) dash + bow qq :>>>> or hit run hit run omg ...
Dude you are the one that should really use brain. You say to a glady with low speed and 500 range max to use bow? or you really believe that anyone that is not an archer should have a bow ++++ in case he see a tyrant?
Quote from: VforVanilla on September 17, 2010, 09:39:30 PM
Dude you are the one that should really use brain. You say to a glady with low speed and 500 rrange max to use bow? or you really believe that anyone that is not an archer should have a bow ++++ in case he see a tyrant?
nope, mages SHOULD handle it with ranged attacks and slow skills. archers should just kite, and daggers should buy a bow ;]
Quote from: WindPhoenix on September 16, 2010, 05:16:54 PM
rofl. with the current delay on skills, the tyrants will have problems spamming the force (ranged) skills. they are dangerous only on close quarters (melee) combat. just keep the distance, kite or slow them and you will win.
and thet guy asking who is noob was right lol.
try to play vs an orc 1st . slow doesnt matter for em they ll get u cause they really run fast
while the rest of us got skill delay and cant even heal ...
Quote from: spashqq on September 16, 2010, 10:25:23 PM
Dude... i think that we are playing a different game, ask any good orc how was it vs me at that setup
many things changed since then spash
Quote from: lucifsg on September 18, 2010, 12:38:39 AM
forum spammer , try to play vs an orc 1st . slow doesnt matter for em they ll get u cause they really run fast
while the rest of us got skill delay and cant even heal ...
donate for Totem of Rabbit imo :)
Quote from: WindPhoenix on September 17, 2010, 09:43:20 PM
nope, mages SHOULD handle it with ranged attacks and slow skills. archers should just kite, and daggers should buy a bow ;]
non of thoose will work ... just try it
Quote from: lucifsg on September 18, 2010, 12:54:19 AM
and u SHOULD just shut up n learn something about this game finally or stick to the spam section and keep ur silly ideas for ur ass
. ..
wind is one spammer, me also, but he's right, even with rabbit, its possible to slow tyrants...
i'm not apart with delays since i'm not playing anymore...but if u stopped to kite bcuz u think that u're immortal, and w8 to cripple lands, its not our fault
the thing that doesnt help much is the small arena, that doesnt have any place to run..
(wtb old coli for oly)
Quote from: Neozinhu on September 18, 2010, 01:44:31 AM
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wind is one spammer, me also, but he's right, even with rabbit, its possible to slow tyrants...
i'm not apart with delays since i'm not playing anymore...but if u stopped to kite bcuz u think that u're immortal, and w8 to cripple lands, its not our fault
the thing that doesnt help much is the small arena, that doesnt have any place to run..
(wtb old coli for oly)
yeah, i miss that too
Quote from: WindPhoenix on September 18, 2010, 02:05:07 AM
yeah, i miss that too
ye interlude and c4 oly was the best :P cancel was taking all bufs but no1 cry :)
Quote from: OwnerPL on September 18, 2010, 04:31:35 PM
ye interlude and c4 oly was the best :P cancel was taking all bufs but no1 cry :)
ty/de didnt need buffs @ c4...just one hom+conversion and one db+f ;D
Btw, ive tested some bishop skills yesterday while my friend was smoking, the delay between skills doesnt look so bad tbh (tested with heals, not nukes). . .
FFS :- Lineage 2 is not all about OLY, there are other parts of game, stop f-ucking QQ about orcs ALWAYS is a class of char that owns at oly. GROW UP get some balls and make other way to play char to kill orc. If you can't maybe you shouldn't be playing this game. So nerf nerf nerf orc what will happen outside oly??? Orc will = useless char. As is already stated some orc sub are only char which does not merge all skills when DN subbed.................
Quote from: Zippey on September 19, 2010, 12:38:30 PM
FFS :- Lineage 2 is not all about OLY, there are other parts of game, stop f-ucking QQ about orcs ALWAYS is a class of char that owns at oly. GROW UP get some balls and make other way to play char to kill orc. If you can't maybe you shouldn't be playing this game. So nerf nerf nerf orc what will happen outside oly??? Orc will = useless char. As is already stated some orc sub are only char which does not merge all skills when DN subbed.................
HP lower than 60 % : P.atk + 43 % and Crit + 100.
HP lower than 30 % : P.atk + 43 % and Crit + 400.
this is how bison should work , ppl are only asking to make this skill work as it should be :P and i don't think u can call this nerf Qq ;D
guys . i mean all of those who dont play oly , why u say bullshits like slow and run ?? since u ve no idea how is olympiad now..... dont make a voice when u dunno wtf is going on there xD
Quote from: slimx on September 19, 2010, 12:49:30 PM
HP lower than 60 % : P.atk + 43 % and Crit + 100.
HP lower than 30 % : P.atk + 43 % and Crit + 400.
this is how bison should work , ppl are only asking to make this skill work as it should be :P and i don't think u can call this nerf Qq ;D
I will say again any update/ nerf whatever you want to call it that comes about because of OLY will affect orc in all other areas of game. Thats is my point, I'm not saying Bison should be left alone but we all know that any fix required to stop orc being OP in oly will feck that char up more outside oly......................
Quote from: jygh on September 19, 2010, 01:05:45 PM
guys . i mean all of those who dont play oly , why u say bullshits like slow and run ?? since u ve no idea how is olympiad now..... dont make a voice when u dunno wtf is going on there xD
oly changed much since 1month and half ago? :)
bcuz if it doesnt, my opinion still ok ;)
lets see it this way, i find an orc and i set up for evasion the orc will use only F1 will hit 20 times he will miss 10 the other 10, 9 will be crits for 1k/900k each..... very cool dont you think?