me :
QuoteIn case you didnt notice daggers hit a lot harder . (seems like x2 or more stab power). So what s changed ? Will it remain like this ?
Critical rate of stabs seems also increased a lot.
Add: Shield def is increased
kain :
QuoteWe(Me or Trackzero) will inform you if something changed/gonna change .
At the moment we installing/testing a big package of updates, tho most of you proved us that you dont diserve to know earlier some updates informations .
So until we are done ,please do not spam the forum with rumors and fairy-tails and most of all without any proofs .
Thank you .
~ Kain
Pls dont lock my topics its my opinion and thats why a forum stands for.
It isnt any official news im stating here or follow the sick rabbit section so why you worry i dont get it ?
As i told u in pm you did that in the past twice and i came back with screenshots ...still w8ing for an answer , was the attributes messed up topic.
All i see now is stab power + , critical rate of stab+ , shield def rate -
Could be right could be wrong . Thats what i notice last night.
As for the fairytails , just go ingame and test it, is simple as that .
go out sometimes, you will see that l2 is not the only thing in life .... good luck
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Quote from: lucifsg on November 04, 2010, 06:29:35 PM
me :
kain :
Pls dont lock my topics its my opinion and thats why a forum stands for.
It isnt any official news im stating here or follow the sick rabbit section so why you worry i dont get it ?
As i told u in pm you did that in the past twice and i came back with screenshots ...still w8ing for an answer , was the attributes messed up topic.
All i see now is stab power + , critical rate of stab+ , shield def rate -
Could be right could be wrong . Thats what i notice last night.
As for the fairytails , just go ingame and test it, is simple as that .
100% agree
would be cool if dagger stopped to suck for once since c4 xd
5k+3k from Imotion sws/dagger at oly on 2 blows? ..thats farway too much !
Something changed rly bad with daggers.Before those updates it was kinda nice and balanced am. of poincts on players at oly.Hope will not be again old shits with 1k+ pcts .
.if u gonna flame aboute mys sps dmg be sure before doing that u know its all aboute atribute def.
Answer: Cause Critical Damage SA, skill enchancements, etc are working now.
Oly boys ,girls and gays (Yes Messalina i know what you are :D ) crying for daggers .
Totally not my bussness the Oly thingy but guys like lucifsg and rest who got 2-3 hero chars per month should nt live with the idea to not be such greedy?
Quote from: Deavon on November 05, 2010, 02:39:38 AM
Oly boys ,girls and gays (Yes Messalina i know what you are :D ) crying for daggers .
Totally not my bussness the Oly thingy but guys like lucifsg and rest who got 2-3 hero chars per month should nt live with the idea to not be such greedy?
Reminding you i know who you are for sure;) so pls no such lame flames
You dont care for oly i know.I didnt too for years ,Messalinna wasnt nobless until 2010.
Im not a oly farmer at all and in Octomber i signed only in last oly day.Rest of the days wasnt me on Drkeen .
To have 3 chars hero is a "non life" gaming way from my poinct.If lucifsg do it then gz to him , i know how much time i need to sacrifice only for one hero, so we cant blame people cuz you know different things make different people happy.
My post its aboute some updates.Since i signed with Drkeen at oly lot of guys in special temps wasnt sure for their hero stats.Saddami was QQ cuz there was no more 1k pcts .Or isnt 3-400 enough?Dont you all said oly isnt balanced?
I can simply sign every evening and find out all atributes on oly chars and start the show since i have items sets+weapons for a full party of mage:)
I'm not that selfish and evil anyway.One hero is enough and i do it only for hero UD.
tell me, instead of me beeing hero in varka what u think aboute facing 2 party of temps archers all of them hero:) wont save you even with 20 k p.atk
I know you know how to play a archer and isnt that hard to see that and actually you and cthon do it well but pls be decent not an asshole.
The topic was aboute daggers at oly.
Aboute sps at oly..hm isnt OP at all.
Every single player on this server with my weapons, my jews and my armore sets can be hero cuz the atribute system is made in that way to make people play more,donate more and spend more time in game.
Quote from: NYPD on November 05, 2010, 05:15:42 AM
I know you know how to play a archer and isnt that hard to see that and actually you and cthon do it well but pls be decent not an asshole.
The topic was aboute daggers at oly.
Aboute sps at oly..hm isnt OP at all.
Every single player on this server with my weapons, my jews and my armore sets can be hero cuz the atribute system is made in that way to make people play more,donate more and spend more time in game.
+1 to that but
you guys are so funny :) someone loses you call him noob , someone wins you call him nolifer , loses heroe he is a failzor , makes 3 heroes he is greedy :) . seems like envy is your favorite sin. just for the record im in the heroe business 2,5 years so i know how things work . i made 3 heroes spending less time than ever on l2 ...
back to the topic im getting 6.5k backstab and 3.1 stab from aw oly buffed and i was on full ressist on his attribute . wtf will happen if theese guys get pvp buffs, hit for 15k ?
i think there is something wrong with focus power/death buff, thats why they use it even though they hit from front (and make huge stabs). not sure at all though its just an idea ...
Quote from: NYPD on November 05, 2010, 02:19:56 AM
5k+3k from Imotion sws/dagger at oly on 2 blows? ..thats farway too much !
Something changed rly bad with daggers.Before those updates it was kinda nice and balanced am. of poincts on players at oly.Hope will not be again old shits with 1k+ pcts .
.if u gonna flame aboute mys sps dmg be sure before doing that u know its all aboute atribute def.
yes i think need change this, imotion with ic+cd+8(its most power dagger on server) and hit 3k and 5k with crit its so much!!!! Mmy idea like this:
1. ic+cd++++(cd lvl 3) change damage 1k max
dyna+cd+++(cd lvl 2) = 750 its be good
as+cd(cd lvl 1) = near 500
as+h+++ = ohh rly better hit with normal hit
2. atr resist think need change no 3 parts, give 5-6 parts its be more balansed for donators,
with 1k resis dmg chanse 1k > near 300 with ic+cd++ its be good
3. Shield defense yes need up: chanse up 100% and resist need up like this: archers with ic+10 or more him mage on dnet +3 MAX 1k or low.
3. Trance and other debuff need up when i have 7k+ chanse need up too 80% min, lower m def - chance 100%
4. cansel 100%, 3-4 buff min, or better 7-10, for 2-3 cansels and fight finish, ohh i forget reuse 10 sek max
5. ohh i forget orks(they can kill mages too) - speed decrease to 150 with rabit - i think it be good
6. Ohh rly sry 1 more when fight start we all must see what buff have ur oponent+what atr on weapon - its for fast chanse or 1 of 6 sets
I think its be more balanced for all, ohh sry for mages only ^^
Rly stop QQ about daggers yes imotion hit u 3k but dont forget its IC KNIFE+8, no1 have more power dagger on server, only 4-5 ppl have ic knife then stop do panic...
author=MadCap - PW/TK+nobl <<<< Hero
Quotebla bla i just reply my random answer
dear pw can u read or what ? who gives a fack about icarus +8 , all daggers hit a lot harder 2.5k is a minimum blow and it goes up to 7k crit. how will u fight that ?
Quote from: NYPD on November 05, 2010, 05:15:42 AM
tell me, instead of me beeing hero in varka what u think aboute facing 2 party of temps archers all of them hero:) wont save you even with 20 k p.atk
I know you know how to play a archer and isnt that hard to see that and actually you and cthon do it well but pls be decent not an asshole.
The topic was aboute daggers at oly.
Sarcasm on : I beg for 2 partys of temp archers everytime i m at varka ,they are the worst archers i ever faced anyway .
Sarcasm off : Oly on DNET never will be balanced with a small exception of Valkyria where people fighting there on their BASE class without stucksub .
More or less i wanna say that today you QQ for daggers ,tomorrow daggers gonna QQ for mages then Orcs and this cyrcle will never end since you fighting with mutliskills . So everytime a update/boost/nerf apears effects the oly "balance" .
disable oly pls
Its kinda funny now play vs daggers for example in olympiad astagamista is a tank and he hit me 4.8 k with 1 blow O_O More funny is i was using dnet light set all + 6 full atribute + greater shield + cov so i dont have low p def. Sames all sws/daggers now funny with his damage ( + milion evasion :D ).
All was cry always for damage orc but im hiting now in oly 1k crt with ic fist and they hit me 4/5 k each with angel slayer :D
Quote from: pulupaker on November 05, 2010, 12:36:27 PM
yes i think need change this, imotion with ic+cd+8(its most power dagger on server) and hit 3k and 5k with crit its so much!!!! Mmy idea like this:
1. ic+cd++++(cd lvl 3) change damage 1k max
dyna+cd+++(cd lvl 2) = 750k its be good
as+cd(cd lvl 1) = near 500k
as+h+++ = ohh rly better hit with normal hit
2. atr resist think need change no 3 parts, give 5-6 parts its be more balansed for donators,
with 1k resis dmg chanse 1k > near 300 with ic+cd++ its be good
3. Shield defense yes need up: chanse up 100% and resist need up like this: archers with ic+10 or more him mage on dnet +3 MAX 1k or low.
3. Trance and other debuff need up when i have 7k+ chanse need up too 80% min, lower m def - chance 100%
4. cansel 100%, 3-4 buff min, or better 7-10, for 2-3 cansels and fight finish, ohh i forget reuse 10 sek max
5. ohh i forget orks(they can kill mages too) - speed decrease to 150 with rabit - i think it be good
6. Ohh rly sry 1 more when fight start we all must see what buff have ur oponent+what atr on weapon - its for fast chanse or 1 of 6 sets
I think its be more balanced for all, ohh sry for mages only ^^
Rly stop QQ about daggers yes imotion hit u 3k but dont forget its IC KNIFE+8, no1 have more power dagger on server, only 4-5 ppl have ic knife then stop do panic...
Imotion is a lil dog near Puff :) <3 even with lower stuff puff make more damage :-)
QuoteImotion is a lil dog near Puff Smiley <3 even with lower stuff puff make more damage :-)
lecce boy u have damn right!
i dont think
he have some sh1ts from wl, mine sub is support
Quote from: Deavon on November 05, 2010, 02:44:01 PM
More or less i wanna say that today you QQ for daggers ,tomorrow daggers gonna QQ for mages then Orcs and this cyrcle will never end since you fighting with mutliskills . So everytime a update/boost/nerf apears effects the oly "balance" .
so its strange to ask for some balance since we dont have it ? balance imo is achievable. we had it sometimes.
u think it affects only oly balance and not pvp ? told ya if they do 7k stabs in oly what will they do on full buffs 15 ?
ppls, iMotion have Ic knife+8, it's the most powerfull dagger on this server. that is why he hitting ~3k
if half of daggers will have IC knife, u'll not cry about demage, bcz u'll know that it's normal. and all of them will hitt with same demage
it's not sh1ty as+8 with sh1ty damege
so stop cry and take it like normal
Quote from: seboulba on November 05, 2010, 04:06:55 PM
Imotion is a lil dog near Puff :) <3 even with lower stuff puff make more damage :-)
lol you mean more noise around his person ...
Quote from: qwertyzxc on November 05, 2010, 03:36:56 PM
Its kinda funny now play vs daggers for example in olympiad astagamista is a tank and he hit me 4.8 k with 1 blow O_O More funny is i was using dnet light set all + 6 full atribute + greater shield + cov so i dont have low p def. Sames all sws/daggers now funny with his damage ( + milion evasion :D ).
All was cry always for damage orc but im hiting now in oly 1k crt with ic fist and they hit me 4/5 k each with angel slayer :D
man 4.8k its crit with back stab in ur back. and he use focus death its give +80% damage in back
u hit 1k but u hit it 2-3 in 1 sec
Quote from: lucifsg on November 05, 2010, 06:54:54 PM
so its strange to ask for some balance since we dont have it ? balance imo is achievable. we had it sometimes.
u think it affects only oly balance and not pvp ? told ya if they do 7k stabs in oly what will they do on full buffs 15 ?
screen plz
Quote from: Shreed on November 05, 2010, 09:19:50 PM
lol you mean more noise around his person ...
your point plz?
Quote from: lucifsg on November 04, 2010, 06:29:35 PM
me :
kain :
Pls dont lock my topics its my opinion and thats why a forum stands for.
It isnt any official news im stating here or follow the sick rabbit section so why you worry i dont get it ?
As i told u in pm you did that in the past twice and i came back with screenshots ...still w8ing for an answer , was the attributes messed up topic.
All i see now is stab power + , critical rate of stab+ , shield def rate -
Could be right could be wrong . Thats what i notice last night.
As for the fairytails , just go ingame and test it, is simple as that .
ur joking ?
Quote from: garikUA on November 05, 2010, 10:30:36 PM
man 4.8k its crit with back stab in ur back. and he use focus death its give +80% damage in back
u hit 1k but u hit it 2-3 in 1 secscreen plz
who care i hit 2 times in 1 sec if dagger have milion evasion and i miss all this hits and u never miss ur blows lol ?
rofl ... why everyone who got raped in oly , make nerf topics ? , luci this community is bored to see ur retarted topics :-\
Quote from: scary on November 06, 2010, 04:44:35 PM
rofl ... why everyone who got raped in oly , make nerf topics ? , luci this community is bored to see ur retarted topics :-\
guess why :D
http://dragon-network.net/xml/nightmare/olympiad.xml
Quote from: trooperXkoki on November 06, 2010, 04:47:36 PM
guess why :D
http://dragon-network.net/xml/nightmare/olympiad.xml
as i see on 1st 2nd and 3rd place are all daggers ;D its kinda obviously that daggers got bosted
Quote from: slimx on November 06, 2010, 05:29:22 PM
as i see on 1st 2nd and 3rd place are all daggers ;D its kinda obviously that daggers got bosted
XILEF and PureEvil r daggers too?!?
Quote from: trooperXkoki on November 06, 2010, 04:47:36 PM
guess why :D
http://dragon-network.net/xml/nightmare/olympiad.xml
hahahahahahah
Quote from: Weezer on November 06, 2010, 06:28:06 PM
XILEF and PureEvil r daggers too?!?
i don't think they have the same gear tbh
Quote from: scary on November 06, 2010, 04:44:35 PM
rofl ... why everyone who got raped in oly , make nerf topics ? , luci this community is bored to see ur retarted topics :-\
my topics have a point. i got 6.4k stab without expose or wound . do the maths what the dmg ll be in pvp . i made a cry topic as u said about attributes long time ago . noone care to fix it so im exploiting it every possible way there is :)
Quote from: slimx on November 06, 2010, 09:23:44 PM
i don't think they have the same gear tbh
so problem isnt about skills but gear, right?!?
Quote from: Weezer on November 06, 2010, 10:44:35 PM
so problem isnt about skills but gear, right?!?
what problem? geez i just pointed that daggers are OP and as u can see in that list xilef and pure have 15 fights when the others have 50+
Quote from: slimx on November 06, 2010, 10:50:25 PM
what problem? geez i just pointed that daggers are OP and as u can see in that list xilef and pure have 15 fights when the others have 50+
for sure daggers got boosted its 100 % but i cant understand why daggers ? they have good atak speed good damage from normal hits/crits also with blow and more faking big speed + evasion ud`s / mystic bla bla bla. Show me now 1 char who can kill daggers :D w/o cancle him all bufs u can by luck only :)
Quote from: qwertyzxc on November 06, 2010, 11:20:49 PM
for sure daggers got boosted its 100 % but i cant understand why daggers ? they have good atak speed good damage from normal hits/crits also with blow and more faking big speed + evasion ud`s / mystic bla bla bla. Show me now 1 char who can kill daggers :D w/o cancle him all bufs u can by luck only :)
mby some dagger made recent donation ? ;D
QuoteXILEF and PureEvil r daggers too?!?
XILEF has only fought like 2 times since the month started......and slim is right, he doesnt have the same gear as the others. And I think track only fixed (at last) the CD SA on s80 daggers, coz the dmg I do was increased by exactly the same ammount the SA explanation says, that is 559 dmg or so, dont know why so much crying about daggers tbh, at least atribute system works perfectly against them, all you need to know is the atr the guy is using and protect against it; the dmg will be reduced to more than half.
P.S.: and you don't need to be a rocket scientist to be able to guess among the 3 elements daggers use....
I feel like deleting this thread. And couple others.
u need a separate section for luci's qq topics about oly.
I THING U GOT THE ANSWER BY "thehunted" why ur still crying ??
Quote from: legendaryvicious on November 07, 2010, 01:43:03 AM
XILEF has only fought like 2 times since the month started......and slim is right, he doesnt have the same gear as the others. And I think track only fixed (at last) the CD SA on s80 daggers, coz the dmg I do was increased by exactly the same ammount the SA explanation says, that is 559 dmg or so, dont know why so much crying about daggers tbh, at least atribute system works perfectly against them, all you need to know is the atr the guy is using and protect against it; the dmg will be reduced to more than half.
P.S.: and you don't need to be a rocket scientist to be able to guess among the 3 elements daggers use....
Lol dude and if i`ll know what atribute he have on dagger what more ? do you think all have 5 sets with 5 full atributes like drkeen ? ...
Quote from: qwertyzxc on November 07, 2010, 02:30:42 PM
Lol dude and if i`ll know what atribute he have on dagger what more ? do you think all have 5 sets with 5 full atributes like drkeen ? ...
Or simply change the atribute of some parts of the set, coz if an specific class is beatting you easily that would be the smart thing to do, but then again olys are not everything in the game.
Quote from: qwertyzxc on November 06, 2010, 04:02:16 PM
who care i hit 2 times in 1 sec if dagger have milion evasion and i miss all this hits and u never miss ur blows lol ?
lol
dagger/tank dont have miilion eva and u know it
and why u think blows not miss?
Quote from: garikUA on November 07, 2010, 07:19:56 PM
lol
dagger/tank dont have miilion eva and u know it
and why u think blows not miss?
LIES GARIKUA!! dagger blows have 110% landing rate and you know it!!......sarcams btw ::)
I wish my blows had 100% landing rate lol
Quote from: legendaryvicious on November 07, 2010, 08:42:57 PM
LIES GARIKUA!! dagger blows have 110% landing rate and you know it!!......sarcams btw ::)
I wish my blows had 100% landing rate lol
tssss... it secret :D
Totaly bullshit that daggers OP. I rly have small dmg and rly i have lot of missings.... I can tell only that aw must have strong dmgs also icarus dagger rly skilled wepon... But ppl... Icarus! imo smth a bit wrong with atribures... But can't tell smth more coz don't play match to test it.
ofc they changed something.
last night a th/pp (self buffed) killed me with one deadly blow..... 9904 dmg when i had over 1,6k P.def
(no Critical Wound neither Expouse weak point )
Quote from: FireCat on November 08, 2010, 10:58:01 AM
ofc they changed something.
last night a th/pp (self buffed) killed me with one deadly blow..... 9904 dmg when i had over 1,6k P.def
(no Critical Wound neither Expouse weak point )
Was lethal then
(http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/8849/vinnyj.png)
if someone make lethal you get a msg of that, something like "Lethal land on you "
and u can see on screen this hit is the final, no more dmg taken after that
after 2 years and 2 (or 3 chronicles) daggers finnaly get on par with archers / mages and you people want them nerfed because of olympiad ? HA !. only problem with daggers now is they make too much damage vs heavy, besides pdef it should be an automatic x% less damage on heavy armor.
Quote from: FireCat on November 08, 2010, 11:34:03 AM
(http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/8849/vinnyj.png)
if someone make lethal you get a msg of that, something like "Lethal land on you "
and u can see on screen this hit is the final, no more dmg taken after that
Quote from: VforVanilla on November 08, 2010, 11:04:23 AM
Was lethal then
....if wasnt lethal then is this for sure!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a64JEtZMVUc
i dont say daggers are OP neither i want say nerf them, but come on 10k blow is too much.
Quote from: FireCat on November 08, 2010, 11:57:28 AM
i dont say daggers are OP neither i want say nerf them, but come on 10k blow is too much.
x30 nightmare here,,,check up there on which forum u spam
omg sps/ee start cry ;D
why you dont cry when des with 14k p atk hit you for 3k only:P
Quote from: tzuc on November 08, 2010, 11:37:42 AM
after 2 years and 2 (or 3 chronicles) daggers finnaly get on par with archers / mages and you people want them nerfed because of olympiad ? HA !. only problem with daggers now is they make too much damage vs heavy, besides pdef it should be an automatic x% less damage on heavy armor.
yap on official full bufed dagger vs full bufed mage hitting for more than 5k, (but ic dagger+cd is little op on dn , not daggers)
anyway glad is still shit, 1,5k - 2k from tss on robe or light user (full buff) is joke
Quote from: Wizjoner on November 08, 2010, 12:53:59 PM
yap on official full bufed dagger vs full bufed mage hitting for more than 5k, (but ic dagger+cd is little op on dn , not daggers)
anyway glad is still shit, 1,5k - 2k from tss on robe or light user (full buff) is joke
i play on retail bp, aw hero hits me 8k on my bp and my dynasty set is not foundation, not +6 and not full element. but vs EE in my party (+6 foundation dynasty full element) it hits 4k.
Quote from: Wizjoner on November 08, 2010, 12:53:59 PM
yap on official full bufed dagger vs full bufed mage hitting for more than 5k, (but ic dagger+cd is little op on dn , not daggers)
anyway glad is still shit, 1,5k - 2k from tss on robe or light user (full buff) is joke
I don't get it. Both Dynasty knife and IC Dagger sould have same CD bonus. Is different here? Cause i tried Dyn knife + CD and with skill was only 100 dmg more on a target with 1.5k pdef.
Quote from: VforVanilla on November 08, 2010, 01:47:14 PM
I don't get it. Both Dynasty knife and IC Dagger sould have same CD bonus. Is different here? Cause i tried Dyn knife + CD and with skill was only 100 dmg more on a target with 1.5k pdef.
when u tried it ? ;D ;D ;D ::)
Quote from: scary on November 08, 2010, 02:00:07 PM
when u tried it ? ;D ;D ;D ::)
Today, Was an AS+H+10 vs a Dyn Knife+CD+5.The 100 dmg was the same whenever i was unbuffed or on full (DW,Dance Fire,COV).
Quote from: VforVanilla on November 08, 2010, 04:41:37 PM
Today, Was an AS+H+10 vs a Dyn Knife+CD+5.The 100 dmg was the same whenever i was unbuffed or on full (DW,Dance Fire,COV).
cant be , there is much difference between haste and cd in crit dmg`s..
Quote from: VforVanilla on November 08, 2010, 01:47:14 PM
I don't get it. Both Dynasty knife and IC Dagger sould have same CD bonus. Is different here? Cause i tried Dyn knife + CD and with skill was only 100 dmg more on a target with 1.5k pdef.
wtf u are talking ?:P
Quote from: scary on November 08, 2010, 07:19:02 PM
cant be , there is much difference between haste and cd in crit dmg`s..
Try to do the test on a target with an average pvp pdef (1500-2000) and not on an npc and you will see ;)
Quote from: VforVanilla on November 08, 2010, 07:27:15 PM
Try to do the test on a target with an average pvp pdef (1500-2000) and not on an npc and you will see ;)
i tested it on many ppl`s, and its different trust me and im still testing ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: scary on November 08, 2010, 10:42:10 PM
i tested it on many ppl`s, and its different trust me and im still testing ;D ;D ;D ;D
:D :D :D
what can i say about oly maby u right dagers have more power now that b4 but luci u also have char that kill daggers in oly dont you?!
and lets rememembert that dagers was like a dead rais b4, terible on pvp, sieges, also in oly its not that easy win sps/ee or gladi/$$
so track if u wanna nerf dagers dont forget to nerf cansel and reuse of heals!!! (that my opinion)
Quote from: asta on November 09, 2010, 03:01:49 AM
what can i say about oly maby u right dagers have more power now that b4 but luci u also have char that kill daggers in oly dont you?!
and lets rememembert that dagers was like a dead rais b4, terible on pvp, sieges, also in oly its not that easy win sps/ee or gladi/$$
so track if u wanna nerf dagers dont forget to nerf cansel and reuse of heals!!! (that my opinion)
its not about oly only it affects all the sides of the game
Quote from: lucifsg on November 09, 2010, 08:40:00 AM
its not about oly only it affects all the sides of the game
dude be serious ... daggers sucks in sieges .. i cant even make a fun in sieges .. just near town etc, AND YE u made this topic cuz daggers takes ur points in oly ... everyone know it
Quote from: scary on November 09, 2010, 09:34:31 AM
AND YE u made this topic cuz daggers takers ur points in oly ... everyone know it
Come on man, thats bullshit!! Luci never gave a f.uck about oly... ::) :D
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on November 09, 2010, 02:13:44 PM
Come on man, thats bullshit!! Luci never gave a f.uck about oly... ::) :D
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Quote from: scary on November 09, 2010, 09:34:31 AM
dude be serious ... daggers sucks in sieges .. i cant even make a fun in sieges .. just near town etc, AND YE u made this topic cuz daggers takes ur points in oly ... everyone know it
Daggers suck so much in sieges/RB that I even made an archer, even though I completely suck at using archers, just to use it on sieges and epics; the only moments daggers are fun to use are olys and an outside pvp between 2 pts or less, coz with more than that daggers again are pretty useless, there's really no reason at all to be moving anything on daggers.
Quote from: legendaryvicious on November 09, 2010, 04:32:18 PM
Daggers suck so much in sieges/RB that I even made an archer, even though I completely suck at using archers, just to use it on sieges and epics; the only moments daggers are fun to use are olys and an outside pvp between 2 pts or less, coz with more than that daggers again are pretty useless, there's really no reason at all to be moving anything on daggers.
bakis killed ember +pets alone with his th/pp on angel slayer
as for oly i always ll find a way to farm it its np atm i got pp/da for that but the stabs are totaly unbalanced for all the other classes. 3k stab 6 k crit stab so what would it be on expose and wound ? on the other hand uterus said he does normal stabs of 800 dmg. so either there is a buff bugged making all that dmg or icarus +cd makes that dmg (makes me wonder why just icarus .... ^^ )
Quote from: lucifsg on November 09, 2010, 05:11:13 PM
bakis killed ember +pets alone with his th/pp on angel slayer
as for oly i always ll find a way to farm it its np atm i got pp/da for that but the stabs are totaly unbalanced for all the other classes. 3k stab 6 k crit stab so what would it be on expose and wound ? on the other hand uterus said he does normal stabs of 800 dmg. so either there is a buff bugged making all that dmg or icarus +cd makes that dmg (makes me wonder why just icarus .... ^^ )
Problem i think not in IC. Probably u'r right bout some buffs.
Quote from: scary on November 09, 2010, 09:34:31 AM
dude be serious ... daggers sucks in sieges .. i cant even make a fun in sieges .. just near town etc, AND YE u made this topic cuz daggers takes ur points in oly ... everyone know it
Lineage 2 is a role game... every class have their function...
Quote from: lucifsg on November 09, 2010, 05:11:13 PM
bakis killed ember +pets alone with his th/pp on angel slayer
as for oly i always ll find a way to farm it its np atm i got pp/da for that but the stabs are totaly unbalanced for all the other classes. 3k stab 6 k crit stab so what would it be on expose and wound ? on the other hand uterus said he does normal stabs of 800 dmg. so either there is a buff bugged making all that dmg or icarus +cd makes that dmg (makes me wonder why just icarus .... ^^ )
And Saddami, xilef and me killed 5 RB's including naga using AS+H and no BP, but that doesn't proove anything. I think is the IC+CD making all that dmg, coz the dmg difference is not THAT big using Dyn+cd :-X
P.S.: would be fair if it is only the IC dagger since archers got the machine gun, mages got the reuse delay with IC, and daggers had/have.......BUGGED SA :o
Stop cry for nerfs. Outside on properly buffed enemies i hit with focus death backstab MAX 1500 and critical MAX 3000. If you insist to cry for nerfs give as also heal, cut our mana consumption to 1/3 and finally FIX shield defense for magic attacks also.
I HAVE ONE THING TO SAY TO LUCI!
LUCI stop winning all the time!
I didn;t hear u say anything when your chars were OP...
And btw...u are on robe, and an s80 weapon must hit u with dmg!
When u are correctly buffed daggers cant hit that happened today!
Try on pvp...but u dont pvp anymore only farm oly!
One last thing...are u talking about ember that was killed by your orc, bakis and my kamael?
We did in more than an hour and BAKIS WAS NOT ALONE!
Quote from: vergo on November 09, 2010, 07:24:06 PM
I HAVE ONE THING TO SAY TO LUCI!
LUCI stop winning all the time!
I didn;t hear u say anything when your chars were OP...
And btw...u are on robe, and an s80 weapon must hit u with dmg!
When u are correctly buffed daggers cant hit that happened today!
Try on pvp...but u dont pvp anymore only farm oly!
One last thing...are u talking about ember that was killed by your orc, bakis and my kamael?
We did in more than an hour and BAKIS WAS NOT ALONE!
+1 to vergo we test that on a pvp (something that you do once in a year)....Chill a bit with cry mode for your chars and if you lose one hero in one of your many chars wont be something bad....
Quote from: Gonzal on November 09, 2010, 06:46:12 PM
Lineage 2 is a role game... every class have their function...
daggers are supposed to be the "master wtfpwn killlers" ...if i'm not wrong..........
;)
@rest of topic: QQ mode from luci, bcuz he realized that he isnt god @ oly
Quote from: vergo on November 09, 2010, 07:24:06 PM
I HAVE ONE THING TO SAY TO LUCI!
LUCI stop winning all the time!
I didn;t hear u say anything when your chars were OP...
And btw...u are on robe, and an s80 weapon must hit u with dmg!
When u are correctly buffed daggers cant hit that happened today!
Try on pvp...but u dont pvp anymore only farm oly!
One last thing...are u talking about ember that was killed by your orc, bakis and my kamael?
We did in more than an hour and BAKIS WAS NOT ALONE!
you are out of clan...kktnxbb
Quote from: nFeel on November 09, 2010, 08:08:28 PM
yea now we are afraid :P
no ur just saying bullsh1t cause u dont read what i say . i said smth is changed on A BUFF or on ICARUS . It isnt possible sudenly imotion hitting for 3k and others still for 1k if smthing not changed.
Quote from: vergo on November 09, 2010, 07:24:06 PM
I HAVE ONE THING TO SAY TO LUCI!
LUCI stop winning all the time!
I didn;t hear u say anything when your chars were OP...
And btw...u are on robe, and an s80 weapon must hit u with dmg!
When u are correctly buffed daggers cant hit that happened today!
Try on pvp...but u dont pvp anymore only farm oly!
One last thing...are u talking about ember that was killed by your orc, bakis and my kamael?
We did in more than an hour and BAKIS WAS NOT ALONE!
for ur info my chars never was op i was (otherwise did u ever seen necros spaming oly ?)
as for my pvps here u go
<name>lucifsg</name>
<level>60</level>
<class>ELEMENTAL_SUMMONER</class>
<clan>TheHeroes</clan>
<pvp_count>12391</pvp_count>
</char>
lol @ es my retail XD
Same for daggers...
the problem comes when u fight mages and fighters at the same time... when u fight only fighters is easy how to buff but when mages come u dont have the right resist buffs so they kill u easily...
some day attributes will be fixed and the resist buffs will work against mage, physical & range ataks... when that day comes it will be the end of QQ archers OP QQ daggers OP QQ and they will cry more than mages
cheers :)
mages crying since c4....
on valkyrie, archer vs mage is almost balanced, archers do good damage, maybe mages do a little (JUST a little) more dmg but i think it's good.
Quote from: Gonzal on November 10, 2010, 12:19:19 PM
Same for daggers...
the problem comes when u fight mages and fighters at the same time... when u fight only fighters is easy how to buff but when mages come u dont have the right resist buffs so they kill u easily...
some day attributes will be fixed and the resist buffs will work against mage, physical & range ataks... when that day comes it will be the end of QQ archers OP QQ daggers OP QQ and they will cry more than mages
cheers :)
u mean mages have problems only?
Quote from: Gonzal on November 10, 2010, 12:19:19 PM
Same for daggers...
the problem comes when u fight mages and fighters at the same time... when u fight only fighters is easy how to buff but when mages come u dont have the right resist buffs so they kill u easily...
some day attributes will be fixed and the resist buffs will work against mage, physical & range ataks... when that day comes it will be the end of QQ archers OP QQ daggers OP QQ and they will cry more than mages
cheers :)
Mages need less buff slots than fighters to fight properly, even if mage pt is buffed against archers and mages u still will have some buff slots available, but fighter pt wont, and when trigger skills start to active u start to getting overbuffed and will loose some important buffs.
lol u use shield, g shield, cop and song of earth vs mages? ofc u get overbuff same as mages
but the big problem is att system... fighter take advantage of it
but here no1 knows how does it to work so some ppl have advantage on it...
Quote from: Gonzal on November 10, 2010, 03:38:36 PM
lol u use shield, g shield, cop and song of earth vs mages? ofc u get overbuff same as mages
but the big problem is att system... fighter take advantage of it
but here no1 knows how does it to work so some ppl have advantage on it...
ur r just considering ur char (mage), ofc when i play mage i dont need this buffs to fight another mage pt, but consider how many buffs a fighter pt need to fight against a mage or fighter party and u will see a lot of difference.
anyway all this faking icarus weapons or + 10 +++ fuked server ... we have pvp like 2/3 hits and bb and where is fun die by 2/3 hits ?:>
max ecnahnt + 3 all and we will have fun but its impossible ...
Quote from: qwertyzxc on November 11, 2010, 05:11:03 PM
anyway all this faking icarus weapons or + 10 +++ fuked server ... we have pvp like 2/3 hits and bb and where is fun die by 2/3 hits ?:>
max ecnahnt + 3 all and we will have fun but its impossible ...
you sure? ;D
For me max enchant to+3 is great :P
I use a mace+3 :D
Quote from: Gonzal on November 11, 2010, 05:34:47 PM
For me max enchant to+3 is great :P
I use a mace+3 :D
for me also...all s grades max ench +3 can be dyna also
Quote from: qwertyzxc on November 11, 2010, 05:11:03 PM
anyway all this faking icarus weapons or + 10 +++ fuked server ... we have pvp like 2/3 hits and bb and where is fun die by 2/3 hits ?:>
max ecnahnt + 3 all and we will have fun but its impossible ...
yup ;D enjoy OP weapons, anyway im agree with buffs resist, if u have proper buff no is easy kill a mage. I only see deavon char hit me for 5.8k and im pal with set dnet hvy+6 and believe me i had proper buffs vs archer, btw i forget, majesty+15 and deflect arrow+16 ;D and another skills +15 and +16 ;D thaats LOL damage
Quote from: G4rro on November 12, 2010, 02:08:02 AM
I think that you dont have proper buffs all the time , he hits me by 1k to 1.4k max , and im wearing dynasty robe +3 . with majesty +14 and deflect +14 .
Bored of L2 . Pernamently retired and switched to another game .
kk thx bb
rly ? when ?
Quote from: G4rro on November 12, 2010, 11:50:44 AM
2-3 Weeks ago ?
lol man thats too old i m talking about 1 week ago max
Quote from: lucifsg on November 15, 2010, 08:37:29 AM
lol man thats too old i m talking about 1 week ago max
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUtnQTzimMw
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