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Title: all about MANA tatto - please explain
Post by: PepsiQQ on January 15, 2014, 07:57:40 AM
so, we can buy 1lv tatoo?


how much it lasts, how much it gives/per sec.
how long does it take to make it lv2(what is the way of lvling this tatoo? exp?)
how much does it cost, and how long does it last.


since there won't be any mana pots we would like to know how we're gonna recharge stacked mages ... since as we tested it, sps/es will be out of mana in 26 secs ?
Title: Re: all about MANA tatto - please explain
Post by: Calisa on January 15, 2014, 08:01:04 AM
would be nice to know all info, how does it work exactly/price and bonus per lvl
Title: Re: all about MANA tatto - please explain
Post by: Just L on January 15, 2014, 08:13:34 AM
Quote from: PepsiQQ on January 15, 2014, 07:57:40 AM
so, we can buy 1lv tatoo?


how much it lasts, how much it gives/per sec.
how long does it take to make it lv2(what is the way of lvling this tatoo? exp?)
how much does it cost, and how long does it last.


since there won't be any mana pots we would like to know how we're gonna recharge stacked mages ... since as we tested it, sps/es will be out of mana in 26 secs ?

I ever played with mage class, now I must thought about archer or crafter ... lol
Title: Re: all about MANA tatto - please explain
Post by: Issue on January 15, 2014, 08:29:29 AM
  First of all: skill Invocation (bp,ee,se in GF and ++) give to 27 mp/sec.

- If you equip Tattoo of Mana Burst: Gives a constant 15mp/sec its more then old mana potion but you dont need  to take place in bufs.
- If you equip Tattoo of Mana Recovery: Gives a constant 90mp/sec, with a drawback of -50% on patk/matk/attackspeed/castspeed, you regen mana like 3xInvocation, but you can movie and use skils.
  I think good idea for save bufs slot and use MP all time in pvp.
Title: Re: all about MANA tatto - please explain
Post by: Escaflew on January 15, 2014, 08:39:14 AM
GMs should make a delay of equipment on that Tatto which gives 90mp/sec. It would turn out to be spammable. I'm not saying that it will spammable like it would give you 90mana per un/equip, I just think that it would be better if there is somekind of delay(around 5 to 20 seconds) before you can switch/equip the same Tatto, it will make the game more challenging in my opinion. More specifically for PvP, as for when to equip it or when you not. And that's gonna make you more caution regard the situation.
Title: Re: all about MANA tatto - please explain
Post by: =drake= on January 15, 2014, 09:06:57 AM
Quote from: Escaflew on January 15, 2014, 08:39:14 AM
GMs should make a delay of equipment on that Tatto which gives 90mp/sec. It would turn out to be spammable. I'm not saying that it will spammable like it would give you 90mana per un/equip, I just think that it would be better if there is somekind of delay(around 5 to 20 seconds) before you can switch/equip the same Tatto, it will make the game more challenging in my opinion. More specifically for PvP, as for when to equip it or when you not. And that's gonna make you more caution regard the situation.

I can understand this worry.
But well, if they equip/unequip every 1second it will means the regen will be (overall, over a span of 60seconds) only 45mp/sec instead of 90mp/sec.
Plus, for half of those 60seconds the effect of -50% will still play a key role in the duel.

Once the server is online, you will be able to see the prices for the whole progression lv1 to lv4 EMP :)
Title: Re: all about MANA tatto - please explain
Post by: Blizzer on January 15, 2014, 09:37:36 AM
If dagger dmg is still the same crap as years ago then lack of mana won't be solved with such tattoo. Daggers will just suck monkey balls ...
Title: Re: all about MANA tatto - please explain
Post by: MIkel on January 15, 2014, 09:41:14 AM
i just have 1 question (sorry if there is somewhere info about it, i didnt find)
tatoo which is out of life/energy is going to disapear like talismans nowadays, or we can recharge it somehow at npc (except lvling it up)?
Title: Re: all about MANA tatto - please explain
Post by: hideous on January 15, 2014, 09:45:30 AM
Correct me if I am wrong but rechargers exist and you can make one or get to the party what's the problem, wtf?
Title: Re: all about MANA tatto - please explain
Post by: Escaflew on January 15, 2014, 09:48:13 AM
Yeah, something like that popped into my mind, but I didn't consider as to be bothering about it, though it would be nice to know if it's gonna be like what Mikel said. Are they just gonna disappear or they just gonna be unusable after the time runs out and it requires a fill up. I think the second option is pretty good. :)
Title: Re: all about MANA tatto - please explain
Post by: daruno on January 15, 2014, 09:51:50 AM
New tatoo no emp lvl1 better than dragon enchanted mana potion, ppl still QQ about mana pool .... ahahaha.
Title: Re: all about MANA tatto - please explain
Post by: djvancho on January 15, 2014, 10:31:21 AM
Thats why ppl always do beta first
Title: Re: all about MANA tatto - please explain
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on January 15, 2014, 10:34:48 AM
Quote from: djvancho on January 15, 2014, 10:31:21 AM
Thats why ppl always do beta first
Beta and i repeat for 10th time, wouldnt make us do it faster . 90% of the players will use it for finding loops and enchanting items and fooling around. And please stop spamming about this matter.
Title: Re: all about MANA tatto - please explain
Post by: R3vo on January 15, 2014, 10:42:31 AM
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on January 15, 2014, 10:34:48 AM
Beta and i repeat for 10th time, wouldnt make us do it faster . 90% of the players will use it for finding loops and enchanting items and fooling around. And please stop spamming about this matter.
Ok. But you wrote about finding bugs etc and we just about doing some tests with tatoo and other changes. Beta for 2-3 days can be more reward than 50+ posts of explenation.

Sory for my english.
Title: Re: all about MANA tatto - please explain
Post by: Calisa on January 15, 2014, 10:47:40 AM
Quote from: =drake= on January 15, 2014, 09:06:57 AM
I can understand this worry.
But well, if they equip/unequip every 1second it will means the regen will be (overall, over a span of 60seconds) only 45mp/sec instead of 90mp/sec.
Plus, for half of those 60seconds the effect of -50% will still play a key role in the duel.

Once the server is online, you will be able to see the prices for the whole progression lv1 to lv4 EMP :)
at least can u say if players will be able buy 1st lvl of tattoo ? its very important before we can start to play, it depend of setup partys which we will use at start
Title: Re: all about MANA tatto - please explain
Post by: Escaflew on January 15, 2014, 11:03:10 AM
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on January 15, 2014, 10:34:48 AM
Beta and i repeat for 10th time, wouldnt make us do it faster . 90% of the players will use it for finding loops and enchanting items and fooling around. And please stop spamming about this matter.

It's the same, it doesn't matter if the server is beta or live, eventually they WILL find the "exploit/bug/loop" or whatever you wanna call it, if there are ANY. To be honest it would have been better if there was a Beta for us, even for a day or two..
Title: Re: all about MANA tatto - please explain
Post by: =drake= on January 15, 2014, 11:13:15 AM
Quote from: v23 on January 15, 2014, 10:47:40 AM
at least can u say if players will be able buy 1st lvl of tattoo ? its very important before we can start to play, it depend of setup partys which we will use at start

You can use tattoos at any level and yes, you can buy level 1 tattoos with few adena.
Title: Re: all about MANA tatto - please explain
Post by: Geomantic on January 15, 2014, 11:50:16 AM
once u was buying mana pots.... now u will buy tattoo energy.... dont know why so much tears about it....
besides.... herb drop x6!!!!!!!! u will always have full mp on pve... and on pvp... well get EE/SE in pt.... poni buff for mana... clarity ++++.... use brains and clan mates
Title: Re: all about MANA tatto - please explain
Post by: NekFrus on January 15, 2014, 01:03:00 PM
People want to use tatoos for m attack and c speed not for mana... this is stupit to remove custom mo pot remove all of them than... combat pots for pdef p attack or make a pool for mp pots i dont understand why mages must wear a mana tatos instead of tatto for m attack or casting speed
Title: Re: all about MANA tatto - please explain
Post by: remeron on January 15, 2014, 01:05:51 PM
Quote from: NekFrus on January 15, 2014, 01:03:00 PM
People want to use tatoos for m attack and c speed not for mana... this is stupit to remove custom mo pot remove all of them than... combat pots for pdef p attack or make a pool for mp pots i dont understand why mages must wear a mana tatos instead of tatto for m attack or casting speed

switch to casting tattoo after u are done with the other, why is the worry?
Title: Re: all about MANA tatto - please explain
Post by: Garn. on January 15, 2014, 01:08:56 PM
Quote from: remeron on January 15, 2014, 01:05:51 PM
switch to casting tattoo after u are done with the other, why is the worry?
exactly. just play with inventory open or put tattooes in skillbar
Title: Re: all about MANA tatto - please explain
Post by: Vandana on January 15, 2014, 01:09:24 PM
Playing with more types of tats is the key :P
Switching them to what is needed is not going to harm anyone,believe me :D
Title: Re: all about MANA tatto - please explain
Post by: nbx on January 15, 2014, 01:09:53 PM
Quote from: remeron on January 15, 2014, 01:05:51 PM
switch to casting tattoo after u are done with the other, why is the worry?

cause he either lazy or dumb
Title: Re: all about MANA tatto - please explain
Post by: NekFrus on January 15, 2014, 01:17:06 PM
Its not comfortable to play woth open inventory and to swich tattos mages now will have 3 kinds of them
Title: Re: all about MANA tatto - please explain
Post by: Vandana on January 15, 2014, 01:19:12 PM
Quote from: NekFrus on January 15, 2014, 01:17:06 PM
Its not comfortable to play woth open inventory and to swich tattos mages now will have 3 kinds of them

Placing them on ur bar its going to help as well :P

P.S. im playing with 5 types of tats since ages so i dont understand what is ur problem guys,seriously now
Title: Re: all about MANA tatto - please explain
Post by: NekFrus on January 15, 2014, 01:22:59 PM
Quote from: Vandana on January 15, 2014, 01:19:12 PM
Placing them on ur bar its going to help as well :P

P.S. im playing with 5 types of tats since ages so i dont understand what is ur problem guys,seriously now
Ja man... 150 skills no place for all of them in 3 bars and i must put there 6tattos extra... great
Title: Re: all about MANA tatto - please explain
Post by: Vandana on January 15, 2014, 01:24:22 PM
Quote from: NekFrus on January 15, 2014, 01:22:59 PM
Ja man... 150 skills no place for all of them in 3 bars and i must put there 6tattos extra... great

3 bars only? Oo
Title: Re: all about MANA tatto - please explain
Post by: Garn. on January 15, 2014, 01:26:58 PM
Quote from: NekFrus on January 15, 2014, 01:22:59 PM
Ja man... 150 skills no place for all of them in 3 bars and i must put there 6tattos extra... great
you dont have only 3 bars lol, and you dont need ALL the skills in bar (another lol)
Title: Re: all about MANA tatto - please explain
Post by: NekFrus on January 15, 2014, 01:27:55 PM
People choose the easy way. My party allredy rerolled for archers.
Title: Re: all about MANA tatto - please explain
Post by: Mael on January 15, 2014, 01:29:47 PM
Quote from: NekFrus on January 15, 2014, 01:22:59 PM
Ja man... 150 skills no place for all of them in 3 bars and i must put there 6tattos extra... great

3 barrs?! I had 7 in WoW, and WoW is considered one of the easiest to play. :D
Title: Re: all about MANA tatto - please explain
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on January 15, 2014, 01:30:53 PM
Quote from: NekFrus on January 15, 2014, 01:27:55 PM
People choose the easy way. My party allredy rerolled for archers.

Reroled from where? From non existing server yet?
I dont think that they choosed wisely , but as i said everyone plays what suits him to enjoy.
Title: Re: all about MANA tatto - please explain
Post by: R3vo on January 15, 2014, 01:31:54 PM
Quote from: NekFrus on January 15, 2014, 01:17:06 PM
Its not comfortable to play woth open inventory and to swich tattos mages now will have 3 kinds of them

Its not comfortable to drop books, 1,2,3rd class quest etc.
Title: Re: all about MANA tatto - please explain
Post by: NekFrus on January 15, 2014, 01:33:57 PM
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on January 15, 2014, 01:30:53 PM
Reroled from where? From non existing server yet?
I dont think that they choosed wisely , but as i said everyone plays what suits him to enjoy.
We enjoyed to play mages on old dragon network but admin makes the game more difficult for mages now so we choose to play archers
Title: Re: all about MANA tatto - please explain
Post by: Mael on January 15, 2014, 01:34:08 PM
Quote from: NekFrus on January 15, 2014, 01:27:55 PM
People choose the easy way. My party allredy rerolled for archers.

Good luck with that. Just don't supprised when it turns out that this is not the "the easy way" you hoped it to be. :D
Title: Re: all about MANA tatto - please explain
Post by: DarkVengeance on January 15, 2014, 01:37:11 PM
Quote from: NekFrus on January 15, 2014, 01:33:57 PM
We enjoyed to play mages on old dragon network but admin makes the game more difficult for mages now so we choose to play archers

Have fun with mid equipped archer without chp.
Title: Re: all about MANA tatto - please explain
Post by: Vandana on January 15, 2014, 01:40:02 PM
Quote from: DarkVengeance on January 15, 2014, 01:37:11 PM
Have fun with mid equipped archer without chp.

Burnie,still missing ur handsome archer :D
Title: Re: all about MANA tatto - please explain
Post by: unhandledexeption on January 15, 2014, 01:44:09 PM
Quote from: DarkVengeance on January 15, 2014, 01:37:11 PM
Have fun with mid equipped archer without chp.

I had a HE/WK on infinity 5x, didn't have so high lvl equipment (i had draco bow+3 and draco set +3, AQ+Baium, while others had already DNET sets), and i've very rarely used CHP and still i killed "some" enemies :D So i don't think the removal of that potion is a big nerf.
Title: Re: all about MANA tatto - please explain
Post by: Geomantic on January 15, 2014, 01:52:21 PM
Quote from: NekFrus on January 15, 2014, 01:33:57 PM
We enjoyed to play mages on old dragon network but admin makes the game more difficult for mages now so we choose to play archers

and u think for archer u dont need mana tattoo????
Title: Re: all about MANA tatto - please explain
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on January 15, 2014, 01:55:04 PM
Quote from: Geomantic on January 15, 2014, 01:52:21 PM
and u think for archer u dont need mana tattoo????
+99
Title: Re: all about MANA tatto - please explain
Post by: tosia921 on January 15, 2014, 02:15:41 PM
i have question about tatoo's. if they work as shadow weapons, if for example i put in mana tatoo(for 15s) and put other one, i will have still my left 45s or i lose 1 min on mana tatoo from left time? as it was on shadow timers.
Title: Re: all about MANA tatto - please explain
Post by: Cromatorus on January 15, 2014, 02:17:38 PM
Quote from: Geomantic on January 15, 2014, 01:52:21 PM
and u think for archer u dont need mana tattoo????
wanna bet? Archers also need mana to shoot. example HE/PP, he finish buff and no mana for shooting..
Title: Re: all about MANA tatto - please explain
Post by: igi on January 15, 2014, 02:21:20 PM
Quote from: NekFrus on January 15, 2014, 01:22:59 PM
Ja man... 150 skills no place for all of them in 3 bars and i must put there 6tattos extra... great
6 tattoos? O.o if ure thinking about 2 of the same kind then u need 3 slots on bars
Title: Re: all about MANA tatto - please explain
Post by: Geomantic on January 15, 2014, 02:24:05 PM
Quote from: Cromatorus on January 15, 2014, 02:17:38 PM
wanna bet? Archers also need mana to shoot. example HE/PP, he finish buff and no mana for shooting..

that exactly what i say Seth... even if u not pp and not use any mana before u start pewpew....
2-3 stuns+some skills+few pewpew and u have 0 mana
Title: Re: all about MANA tatto - please explain
Post by: Cromatorus on January 15, 2014, 02:25:53 PM
Quote from: Geomantic on January 15, 2014, 02:24:05 PM
that exactly what i say Seth... even if u not pp and not use any mana before u start pewpew....
2-3 stuns+some skills+few pewpew and u have 0 mana

becose im fokin pro  8)
Title: Re: all about MANA tatto - please explain
Post by: __Metallica__ on January 15, 2014, 02:30:08 PM
Hello it's OFFTOPIC post but, I saw drake writing here.
Can you Drake please help me with my problem, coz Track is busy to make player's lifes more harder in other server.
I keep getting disconnects from x15 Dragon of my boxes... Glasy was telling me that you will put some new dll files. I checked everything it's not my internet which cause this problem. I have it since 2 months.
Thanks.
Title: Re: all about MANA tatto - please explain
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on January 15, 2014, 02:34:54 PM
Quote from: __Metallica__ on January 15, 2014, 02:30:08 PM
Hello it's OFFTOPIC post but, I saw drake writing here.
Can you Drake please help me with my problem, coz Track is busy to make player's lifes more harder in other server.
I keep getting disconnects from x15 Dragon of my boxes... Glasy was telling me that you will put some new dll files. I checked everything it's not my internet which cause this problem. I have it since 2 months.
Thanks.
Sorry but what i do to players?! O_o
Title: Re: all about MANA tatto - please explain
Post by: SizeMatters on January 15, 2014, 02:42:37 PM
idiots never played on retail-like servers and keep talking about atk speed since it's not the key of archer power, lol.
Title: Re: all about MANA tatto - please explain
Post by: __Metallica__ on January 15, 2014, 02:45:08 PM
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on January 15, 2014, 02:34:54 PM
Sorry but what i do to players?! O_o

Trying to make the game more hard than it is. :p
Whatever, I rly need help from Drake in this Disconnects matter.Thanks.
Title: Re: all about MANA tatto - please explain
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on January 15, 2014, 02:51:41 PM
Quote from: __Metallica__ on January 15, 2014, 02:45:08 PM
Trying to make the game more hard than it is. :p
Whatever, I rly need help from Drake in this Disconnects matter.Thanks.
Not at all Berty believe me!

Anyhow send me a pm with description of the issue and ill try to solve it in the afternoon.

Thank you
Title: Re: all about MANA tatto - please explain
Post by: __Metallica__ on January 15, 2014, 02:57:55 PM
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on January 15, 2014, 02:51:41 PM
Not at all Berty believe me!

Anyhow send me a pm with description of the issue and ill try to solve it in the afternoon.

Thank you

Ok , Thank you.
Title: Re: all about MANA tatto - please explain
Post by: Sanguchesco on January 15, 2014, 03:32:10 PM
Can tats be worn in oly?