About Subclass

[remeron]

I'm not retarded, of course it's not the same, those servers didn't even start in IL. So it is different from the base. But facing difficulties in-game is a core feature of L2, this is why you lose exp (which is ridiculously reduced above 78 btw), this is why recipes are 60%, this is why this enchant system is in the game, this is why are there specific classes for making money etc etc...
I totally see your point, which is still: "Make the progress easier."
And you totally don't see what I'm talking about: L2 was never meant to be easy. There are plenty of games with easy gameplay/progress, even the current L2 official is one of them, and I miss this feature from them. How the player's patience and 'making money-skills' are tested. You gotta farm hard. You have no time? Be smart. Use the market on your advantage, buy cheap, sell overpriced. Finally, get what you need. There is even offline shop option, which makes you money while you work or whatever.

same bullshit, but in different words..you are trying too hard, please just don't..I swear there is no info here that I dont already know...

The game is not a challenge becuz we know the drill, we got through it, the feeling of adventure is lost for good. We have outgrown your so-called difficulties. So, making it difficult at this point makes the game feel burdensome to me...The lack of players in server proves me right.

[=drake=]

We will go by putting horn in mammon like we had in the past. Seems the best solution and many expected it to be there too.

[Chicks]

Chick is see, you got a problem with accepting other point of view...

sry for spam

English mofoker, can you read it?

Anyway what does the mammon horn imply? I don't remember it personally (I was subbed before that I guess, or it just slipped my mind)

[Dzadro]

I think it was 20lunargents+100kk aa, I may be wrong (surely will not happen here, since the current horn price equals ~35kk aa?) Seems bs/toi3 will be crowded and nobles will be more expensive soon.

[Peorexo]

Old dragon was 20lunargents and 100kk aa? Seems bs/toi3 will be crowded and nobles will be more expensive soon.

that would be great overprice counting actual market prices, even only aa would overprice prem horn

[Chicks]

Old dragon was 20lunargents and 100kk aa? Seems bs/toi3 will be crowded and nobles will be more expensive soon.

So it's just an other useless option?

sigh...

20 lunargents is like = 20 dc or so atm? + 800 kk adenas (optimistic evaluation here)? I guess that won't be what we'll have here.

Anyway just the 100kk AA get you like 2 horns.... if not 3 depending on the selling price of AA.

A long, slow quest would be better. Helping slow killers and supports to sub, while being disadvantageous or uninteresting for other classes.

[Dzadro]

I'm sure they will think of a reasonable option. I just wrote what was on old dragon x15 and we are playing completely different server. It will be probably sth that will require the same time of farm as it takes to farm this 350-400kk now

[remeron]

I'm sure they will think of a reasonable option. I just wrote what was on old dragon x15 and we are playing completely different server. It will be probably sth that will require the same time of farm as it takes to farm this 350-400kk now

making it same would defeat the purpose, wouldn't u agree?

or is it bad for business?

[Chicks]

I'm sure they will think of a reasonable option. I just wrote what was on old dragon x15 and we are playing completely different server. It will be probably sth that will require the same time of farm as it takes to farm this 350-400kk now

which means it's useless. It's only giving us something else to farm (possibly). If I want to farm to that horn, i'd full gear my lvl 50 ish dwarf and spoil DMP at Tanor, or sop/cl at enchanted valley (or tanor too), or wtvr is good to spoil at that current time.

Or I'd just grind AA till I die of exhaustion. Point is, I can already farm the horn in some way. I can farm as a spoiler or as a DPS (nuker/destro/archer), so why add more farming ways to get it? It's not like theres so many people that we can't farm anything... If I'd play a DPS class, I wouldn't even farm it, I'd just get a party for golky and get it from quest golky or drop.

We got enough way to get it out of grinding and farming. L2 is not only that.

[LadyZENITH]

We will go by putting horn in mammon like we had in the past. Seems the best solution and many expected it to be there too.

Careful there. It may be another AA sink, and the S crystal /ss prices may become even more ridiculous.

And once more stop listening to the whiners. You will lose your current community that way. How will people feel when everything they do gets xx times easier month later after they worked so hard to get it. Think about that before changing the game based on thread of couple whiners.

[remeron]

Careful there.

We'd better listen to this expert witness.

[=drake=]

A long, slow quest would be better. Helping slow killers and supports to sub, while being disadvantageous or uninteresting for other classes.

A long, slow, interesting and full of paths and twists.
Wait... wrong game

LONG quest would just require long time to make it (for us). Lets say a month or two with testing and all? By that time you are all subbed.