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Your dagger experience (maybe a GM/coder can explain?)

Started by Dag, June 18, 2009, 01:54:00 PM

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Dag

update:
hard to test , infy is up down every 3 mins
btw

yesterday test:

th lvl 81 no buff (just haste)

all from back of target

dex 34 + angel slayer
deadly blow: succes rate 70% (test made 200 blows)

dex 34 + DD+MM
deadly blow : succes rate 80% (test made 200 blows)

tested also with same setup + CRITICAL BLOW BUFF (the one u get from critical blow skill)
seems strange to me but during this buff rate seems goes lower
on 200 blows (100 with as and 100 with DD) i got
65 % succes with AS
70% with DD



today test

th lvl 81 no buff (just haste)

all from back of target

DEX 27 + AS
Blows land rate : 60-65% (test based on 200 blows)

DEX 27 +DD+MM
Blows land rate: 70% (based on 200 blows)

so seems that difference in DEX value of 7% is  a + / - 10 % blow land rate
considering problem in testing skill in this way ( maybe i have no luck at all, or too much luck)
we could say that +1 DEX means around +1% blow land rate

there is no interesting difference in damage output (i changed the -4 str + 4 dex with a +1 str -3 dex) before was 1700. now is 1650

most important now is to better test if Critical Blow buff really makes what i tested yesterday: lower blow land rate (at a ...who know ? better lethal chance??)
help from other th in this way is appreciated
ribadiamo che siamo contari a tutte queste cose della parità
PERCHE ????
le donne vogliono la parità sessuale....ma..boia della vigliacca NON SIAMO PARI.
c'è una bella differenza fra tenere aperto il sacco e sbadilarci dentro

PALMIRO SEI UN DIO !!!!
zelig. 23/02/10

Dag

k0rina :) here is not for what equip is better

i m testing to finnally have a little test on WHAT influences land rate and HOW
(btw, ofc i used +4 dex +4 con +4 wit....th pp need also buff) and all blows vicious are +9 :)

ps: still need some test, tnx god tonight wife isn't at home so free test :) but seems clear that sa MM still works (and give a good +5+10% on land blows)

again here to ask: TH of dnet, try to test for 10 minutes blows land rate using critical blow buff. im my test i had LOWER land rate during this buff.

is very important
ribadiamo che siamo contari a tutte queste cose della parità
PERCHE ????
le donne vogliono la parità sessuale....ma..boia della vigliacca NON SIAMO PARI.
c'è una bella differenza fra tenere aperto il sacco e sbadilarci dentro

PALMIRO SEI UN DIO !!!!
zelig. 23/02/10

kidicarus

Quote from: Dag on June 23, 2009, 07:36:23 PM
ps: are u healer? how many times u repeat in a sige DONT RUN FAR FROM ME !
i made a macro to spam this :D

I used to say it quite often.... Now i let them die if they get out of my range. /stay close to teh pt leader or die...

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Dadghamor

Quote from: Dag on June 24, 2009, 11:22:07 AM
k0rina :) here is not for what equip is better

i m testing to finnally have a little test on WHAT influences land rate and HOW
(btw, ofc i used +4 dex +4 con +4 wit....th pp need also buff) and all blows vicious are +9 :)

ps: still need some test, tnx god tonight wife isn't at home so free test :) but seems clear that sa MM still works (and give a good +5+10% on land blows)

again here to ask: TH of dnet, try to test for 10 minutes blows land rate using critical blow buff. im my test i had LOWER land rate during this buff.

is very important
if gives only 5%10% ---why in description is reported 40%?  it influences some modificator

Sarcasm

Quote from: Dadghamor on June 24, 2009, 12:26:28 PM
if gives only 5%10% ---why in description is reported 40%?  it influences some modificator

I believe Mortal Strike effect gets replaced by Assasination somehow, so it works only partialy. You guys ever did tests with C grade Mortal Strike daggers with better MS percentage? Just curious.

Dag

that's the point

it SHOULD be the same.

(honestly imho it should add something like mortal strike.... couse th land compared to every other class that have also focus death is ....damn lower)

btw i repeat, it should be the same, and increase lethal rate.
in test i made it lowered the % of landing blow (not so much but...why use a skill if it gives u lesser   succes?)

tonight more test
ribadiamo che siamo contari a tutte queste cose della parità
PERCHE ????
le donne vogliono la parità sessuale....ma..boia della vigliacca NON SIAMO PARI.
c'è una bella differenza fra tenere aperto il sacco e sbadilarci dentro

PALMIRO SEI UN DIO !!!!
zelig. 23/02/10

zthrx

Quote from: k0rina on June 24, 2009, 02:45:41 PM
ok i will tell u smth   and make u a bit curious  ;)    tonight take one as+cd and 1 as+h  and test w/0 buff first  lethal blow on 1 xx char and then with full buff +visious same skill (but with both daggers) and then when u do it come and say me what u realised  ::)

and ull see the difference mainly in dmg coz of VS

Dag

man i know that CD add damage on blows

i m talkin about critical blow( the blow of th that gives a buff like mortal strike)

btw:

tested again blows land rate during critical blow buff

again 200 blows with AS and 200 with DD+MM

this time % is near 90 % with both of them
interesting that AS has same land rate  as DD when buff is active

once again Test aren't exhaustive

with a -7 dex compared to previous test i had same or even better land rate
ribadiamo che siamo contari a tutte queste cose della parità
PERCHE ????
le donne vogliono la parità sessuale....ma..boia della vigliacca NON SIAMO PARI.
c'è una bella differenza fra tenere aperto il sacco e sbadilarci dentro

PALMIRO SEI UN DIO !!!!
zelig. 23/02/10

Dadghamor

Quote from: Dag on June 24, 2009, 07:06:32 PM
man i know that CD add damage on blows

i m talkin about critical blow( the blow of th that gives a buff like mortal strike)

btw:

tested again blows land rate during critical blow buff

again 200 blows with AS and 200 with DD+MM

this time % is near 90 % with both of them
interesting that AS has same land rate  as DD when buff is active

once again Test aren't exhaustive

with a -7 dex compared to previous test i had same or even better land rate
maybe you can't get 100%..a sort of cap of landing rate

fontalia

Quote from: k0rina on June 24, 2009, 10:11:42 PM
again faileD  :P  cd not add dmg on blows  :)  just check it.. and then send me pm not  spam in topic ;)
Why people never try before speaking?
It was working on IL and it still work

First blow with AS + CD +3 second on with AS +0 (don't tell me that the extra damages are from the +3 :p)

kidicarus

Quote from: fontalia on June 24, 2009, 10:37:26 PM
Why people never try before speaking?
It was working on IL and it still work

First blow with AS + CD +3 second on with AS +0 (don't tell me that the extra damages are from the +3 :p)


th/sk? Oo

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