Fix overpowered Clan luck?

[thehunted]

I really don't care about more or less exp loss per death, I just know Drake should spend his time rather on important things instead of this crap.

[SolarWind]

Your argument about removing clan luck is based on high rate servers. For high rate servers it makes little to no difference anyway. The effect of removing clan luck is going to be felt most on Infinity where it makes the biggest difference. It is only x5 rate. This is the server I play on. When clan luck is removed it is removed for all servers .. or it was so in the past and I expect it would be so in the future. You wanting to remove clan luck has little effect on your server and a big effect on the one I play on. If the conversation didn't effect me I would not be posting in this thread but it does so I am.

I swear when I am angry. It doesn't make what I am saying any less true. By your own admission you agree that it has little effect on your server so why the hell are you trying to change something that doesn't really matter to you anyway? The people to whom it matters do not want it nerfed. We want it to stay as it is supposed to be.

As I said before. Assuming that everyone who is participating in pvp WANTS to participate is wrong. We cannot control other people. I don't make anyone attack me and yet it happens. I defend myself when it does. But to say just because people play this game they accept and enjoy pvp and losing exp is foolish. People play for many reasons prime among these is because their friends are here or in a certain clan.

PVP is a part of the game. True. So is clan luck. So are many things both good and stupid. There are many things I dislike about this game and many things I like. Clan luck makes some of the things I dislike easier to deal with.

[Futile]

Even though your latest post was better.
Infinity is the smallest server.

You are still missing the fact, that i allrdy said two times: You are not seeing the bigger picture.

While maybe it makes sense to Infinity, it doesnt on Nighmare, Dragon and Arena.
the bigger picture...

[wildpussy]

actualy on infintiy exp loss is bullshit, i mean in c4 before all had their own ty/de, it was very balanced, quite hard to keep up lvl 77/78 if you was in war, now you exp to 80 or how much you want and your done exp-ing with that char 4ever, only skill enchant can make you lose xp

[x23]

If u died, u must have a penalty :  this is same in most games, specialy in l2 wich is a farming game  !!!!!!!
If u can't accept it, better go play to sims/tetris....  ( hopping some admins follow u ... )

[gosu2kl]

just up rate of dieing based on rate if you lose 1% on infi 3% on dragon and 6% on nm   but once you get all 80lvl buy all skills you dont care about exp ;o

[luciferleigh]

just have clans with wars negate the effect of clan luck, so clans without war can still benifit from it

[Kaylaar]

If we want keep server alive - lets go to topic about horn quest and say bump. And thats how u will make more pvp, more fun, cuz more ppl participate.

Other reason for keeping clan luck. Working ppl that play in evenings come in game to pvp, not to xp all night. I hope all can agree on this one? Coz pvp is what u all want anyway. And imagine that u have to xp just to xp again in few days to not loose s grade lvl.

I have 2 agree. And that's cause i exped some chars like healers, dwarfs etc really hard and i got them killed many times (flagging back when i shouldn't have). Small example: i didn't have clan luck, i was lvl 72 bp in A grd ofc and i got pked like 20 times by a clan that's mostly in dynasty, like alex's clan. Then i didn't care anymore, i started flagging back and gosh, they were so happy for the points.

I wanna ask Alex what's the fun in declaring wars to weaker clans? I saw a list of lans they declared war on....What's ur fun in defeating weaker chars? I like pvping but i don't have any fun winning vs an unsubbed in A grd.

Judging by the way u ppl are talking deleting clan luck will keep the servers alive...keep dreaming lol

[Clear]

-10% per death plz

[Alex]

I have 2 agree. And that's cause i exped some chars like healers, dwarfs etc really hard and i got them killed many times (flagging back when i shouldn't have). Small example: i didn't have clan luck, i was lvl 72 bp in A grd ofc and i got pked like 20 times by a clan that's mostly in dynasty, like alex's clan. Then i didn't care anymore, i started flagging back and gosh, they were so happy for the points.

I wanna ask Alex what's the fun in declaring wars to weaker clans? I saw a list of lans they declared war on....What's ur fun in defeating weaker chars? I like pvping but i don't have any fun winning vs an unsubbed in A grd.

Judging by the way u ppl are talking deleting clan luck will keep the servers alive...keep dreaming lol

free tip: BP 72 is easy to exp on undead mobs in the entry of imperial tomb with the skill "turn undead".

ontopic - there always were tons of retards in L2 and only "clan luck" won't save u from them, but instead it totally ruins pvp joy of L2 or like some idiots can die tons of times but they still will mess around and try to backstab you when you start fighting someone else.

my clan consists of very few people  but we know how to play and each of us worths as 2-3 "dynasty donators" of other clan thats why we feel like we can declare war to any clan and some "big" clans are afraid to accept our war as u can see from Clear's signature.

what do u mean by "weaker char"? like 1/3 of ppl on dragon have dynasty and we often meet enemies of much larger numbers than we are. if they lose when they are 3-4x more than us that just means they suck lol. i could kill "dynasty donators" before i got dynasty and raid set and nobody can say my char (th/wl) is "hax" or "overpowered".

any pro PvPer will support clan luck nerf to smart limits not like it is now as for lamers who dont know how to pvp and want to keep clan luck just to avoid delvl in PvP its just better to find another game for them. As for ppl who like to farm in peace they usually have tons of chars including BP or EE for ress restoring nearly all exp lost.

Read and think.

[Kaylaar]

(off-topic-u can't exp anywhere when u have too many wars, not even with a nuker. U wouldn't believe it but some ppl kill academy chars)

on-topic-as some ppl pointed u win over some "smartasses" and? They'll always gonna have a support char nearby 2 ress 100 %

As i saw in Clear's sig, u have declared to clans like COB or ambrosia and few other even smaller clans. I only saw 1 dyna set in COB, as far as i know noone in ambro has decent S grd atm. So what's the fun even if they accept? U get easy pvp points. That was the question. What's to u if an unsubbed in A grd doesn't lose exp, ppl that are OP will remake that exp in few minutes or get bish res.

PS I know random is small but (u wouldn't believe) some other clans are too, small or inactive. Sometimes u can't gather 3 ppl for a pvp. With a COB guy we pvped once like 1 hr, he kept coming back alone, he obviously had noone 2 call. I didn't enjoy killing him with 5 other ppl in party, even if it was war.  Try asking for some other fixes

[Clear]

your welcome 2 name a different clan 2 fill that war slot if theres a better option (no point having empty war slots)
its a pvp game and we want as much pvp as possible
these other *small* clans only get our attention by flaging us or boting or other rubbish so they end up on the war list no big deal rly
and these COB ppl u speak of.. they attacked our castle with 3 partys vs our 1 so yes they can get people if they really try

and on topic i still want -10% per death 2 be applied, that COB guy who kept coming back 2 attack you for 1 hour probably lost almost no exp