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Status for warrior/mystic combos. Normal or bugged? Closed!

Started by BRexoo7, June 14, 2011, 01:19:30 PM

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BRexoo7

After update i noticed that p. attack for warrior/mystic combos are much higher than others.
Could be some old "weapon masteries stack"? Or it's some new feature being implemented to compensate something?

wildpussy

they are aware of this problem and it is being fixed

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Quote from: BRexoo7 on June 14, 2011, 01:19:30 PM
After update i noticed that p. attack for warrior/mystic combos are much higher than others.
Could be some old "weapon masteries stack"? Or it's some new feature being implemented to compensate something?

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Did you compared it with same items from HB or you compared it when you  had vespers on?
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BRexoo7

Quote from: TrackZero on June 14, 2011, 03:18:17 PM

Did you compared it with same items from HB or you compared it when you  had vespers on?

he/wk   icarus bow+f+11, vesper light, 47 STR, ~6.3k p. attack
he/pala  vesper bow+f+12, vesper heavy, 48 STR, ~4.4k pattack

Both without buffs (at least weird).

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Quote from: BRexoo7 on June 14, 2011, 05:38:09 PM
he/wk   icarus bow+f+11, vesper light, 47 STR, ~6.3k p. attack
he/pala  vesper bow+f+12, vesper heavy, 48 STR, ~4.4k pattack

Both without buffs (at least weird).

Yes its stacking issues, but do me a favor make a test with exactly same gear (without jewels and buffs ) and post again, thanks.
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Quote from: TrackZero on June 14, 2011, 05:43:46 PM
Yes its stacking issues, but do me a favor make a test with exactly same gear (without jewels and buffs ) and post again, thanks.

I'll make some tests with 2 orcs: ty/wc and ty/de and i'll post screens. Same situation there.
Same gear, same dyes, without/with buffs. (ill try to delete even certificate skills).

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Quote from: BRexoo7 on June 14, 2011, 05:49:39 PM
I'll make some tests with 2 orcs: ty/wc and ty/de and i'll post screens. Same situation there.
Same gear, same dyes, without/with buffs. (ill try to delete even certificate skills).
test better with humans please
He/wk
He/pl
he/pp
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Quote from: BRexoo7 on June 14, 2011, 05:49:39 PM
I'll make some tests with 2 orcs: ty/wc and ty/de and i'll post screens. Same situation there.
Same gear, same dyes, without/with buffs. (ill try to delete even certificate skills).

but u forgot say 1 think...
example:
He/wk + he/pp (dunno how pal/he i dont have this sub) got weapon mastery lvl 3 and lvl 42 + bow mastery lvl 52
                           
                                                 but....

fokin de/wc got:
- wepon mastery lvl 3
- wepon mastery lvl 42
-wepon mastery lvl 42



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Quote from: Enerilla on June 28, 2011, 02:06:51 PM
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BRexoo7

I'm sorry that i couldn't test it with humans ( i miss chars and gear), but on next screens its pretty obvious what was previous said.
Both chars are naked, same STR, same lvl, without any certificate skills, same 2 weapons, same buffs.


ty/wc --->dragon grinder/without buffs
(http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/809/dragongrinderwithoutbuf.jpg/)


ty/de ---> dragon grinder/without buffs
(http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/708/dragongrinderwithoutbuf.jpg/)


ty/wc --->dragon grinder/with buffs
(http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/268/dragongrinderwithbuffs.jpg/)


ty/de --->dragon grinder/with buffs
(http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/4/dragongrinderwithbuffs.jpg/)

ty/wc --->dyna fists/without buffs
(http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/838/dynafistswithoutbuffs.jpg/)


ty/de --->dyna fists/without buffs
(http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/146/dynafistswithoutbuffs.jpg/)

ty/wc --->dyna fists/with buffs
(http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/6/dynafistswithbuffs.jpg/)


ty/de --->dyna fists/with buffs
(http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/402/dynafistswithbuffs.jpg/)


ty/wc  weapon masteries
(http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/585/1stweaponmastery.jpg/)
(http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/831/2ndweaponmastery.jpg/)
(http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/835/3rdweaponmastery.jpg/)


ty/de weapon mastery
(http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/197/1stweaponmastery.jpg/)


if any other test is needed with those 2 chars, feel free to ask.











loXol

for better test:

dont test just on screens with stats
but
test with pvp damages

example:
he/pal vs he/pp, with same buffs in pvp 1vs1

he/pal will deal less damages, but will stay in ife
he/pp will deal more damages, but will die fast

de/ty will deal less damages than ty/wc(with fist) but more than de/wc(with 2 hands weapon)

lets play a little with big mass pvps and pvps in 1vs1, and we will see after if we need fix or nerf.

PS: dont let nerf hammer go to fast because we will finish to nerf all class, with all the whining on forum
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BRexoo7

Quote from: loXol on June 14, 2011, 07:23:28 PM
for better test:

dont test just on screens with stats
but
test with pvp damages

example:
he/pal vs he/pp, with same buffs in pvp 1vs1

he/pal will deal less damages, but will stay in ife
he/pp will deal more damages, but will die fast

de/ty will deal less damages than ty/wc(with fist) but more than de/wc(with 2 hands weapon)

lets play a little with big mass pvps and pvps in 1vs1, and we will see after if we need fix or nerf.

PS: dont let nerf hammer go to fast because we will finish to nerf all class, with all the whining on forum

I don't get your point.
You need a boost for some combos after this update to balance some things? Weapon masteries stack were deleted ages ago and, i guess, isn't the point to have them back with this new chronicle. Or, if the Gm decides, let it be like it is. I'm just asking for some official position related to this situation.


PS If you need to test pvp damage, lets hit same target with different combos (with same setup/gear), you'll see the difference.