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Started by Peorexo, September 22, 2011, 08:41:46 PM

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Cenarius

Some1 take a look in skills? No1 ask why Kill4h never got stun in oly? Read skills description.
And who have vesper robe set, have 50% stun resist.
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ylim

this stun rate is a joke, if u dont wear vesper... with a good enchanted shield stun is allmost impossible to move, just check katsu video....

Cenarius

im agree with stun nerf, if nerf cancel too  8)
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Kishin

damn right, stun is overpowered, we also should nerf UD, do U know how much def tanks have when they use it??? omg nerf it.
I think good solution would be removing heavy armor mastery from tanks this would help to make all balanced.
I mean wtf? I have sps tank is hitting me 500 with crit I heal 1k and its ok, but wtf I can do when they stun me? I mean ok usually it never lands on me cause I have mega op resist for stuns, also usually stuns last only till 1 hit, but omg wtf can I do if he last longer?
Btw I like tomato soup cause its tasty thats why im going to get some right now, cya bb hf .

Weezer

Quote from: Kastro on September 22, 2011, 11:57:22 PM
u can ask was in oly so few ppl was watching and loling  i did not kill him just to see if was 2 time luck or no but as i say 4    stuns 3 land

p.s: weez baby stun is shock attack :))

As i said to u IG don't believe in all things that is written in skills, NCSoft made a lot of mistakes on descriptions of skills (those what u can check on skill) and how skill works, on Gracia Epilogue they fixed this things, but since we have GF we must live with it.

Anyway having buffs or skills that should add 100% for Stun Effect don't means u have 100% of chance to resist, u must add this 100% from buffs or even Vesper Robe to ur base resistance to stun effect (the calc to know is based in a lot of factors, for GF i don't know all neither the way to calc), so f.e. if u have in ur char a base for resist of 20% u must add 100% on this 20% this means u will have 40% of chance to resist, but also enemy if have skill enchanted for Chance he also will have more chance to stun u.

About Voodoo video u can see that he stun people a lot of times with his shield stun, chance to stun isnt STR based, so even mage/tank can stun people.

Kastro

Quote from: Kishin on September 23, 2011, 01:13:05 PM
damn right, stun is overpowered, we also should nerf UD, do U know how much def tanks have when they use it??? omg nerf it.
I think good solution would be removing heavy armor mastery from tanks this would help to make all balanced.
I mean wtf? I have sps tank is hitting me 500 with crit I heal 1k and its ok, but wtf I can do when they stun me? I mean ok usually it never lands on me cause I have mega op resist for stuns, also usually stuns last only till 1 hit, but omg wtf can I do if he last longer?
Btw I like tomato soup cause its tasty thats why im going to get some right now, cya bb hf .

just hate ppl who just protect  the chars .... what have evar say  here is for a reason i wright topic for cancel ressit i did not mean about  only sps and sorcerer cancel is there dagger cancel fist cancel i was spicking general al specking  general on this one to coz is not only ur stun  is shild bush is  stun shot  as i give example no mather what gear u have on u or what  julery have on u  naked char when lend oin u 3/4 stun shuts  on 49 con  if that is not OP i dont know what is not OP as u know evan that stuns mostly dont have +chance option to be enchanted  what i should say for BLUFF who was nerfed  in the first 4 days + focus death and focus power  from 65% dmg now is on 10-15% as u can notice cant make over 500 dmg by blow on u and i bet u have not full ressit attribut  vs me but still daggers got nerf so before start defending someting think a bit resnoble  as i say again i`m +con  imagen if somone go -con  he wont wake up from stuns so  YE is OP

Kishin

have U ever used anything else then jewelery to resist stun, CON? do U even know how much resist for stun each +1CON gives?? Why track didnt nerf cancel only fixed skills resisting cancel?
Do same with stun.

Btw U hate me cause I protect my char?Go ahead,  stun is everything my char got on pvp and U wanna fok it because U dont know how to resist it .


flamingAwe

Quote from: Weezer on September 22, 2011, 10:26:11 PM
- Shock effect is 1 thing, Stun effect is another.

stun is a skill, shock is attribute/effect of skill....
http://l2p.l2wh.com/attributes.html

Javardsnegger

Quote from: Kishin on September 23, 2011, 01:13:05 PM
damn right, stun is overpowered, we also should nerf UD, do U know how much def tanks have when they use it??? omg nerf it.
I think good solution would be removing heavy armor mastery from tanks this would help to make all balanced.
I mean wtf? I have sps tank is hitting me 500 with crit I heal 1k and its ok, but wtf I can do when they stun me? I mean ok usually it never lands on me cause I have mega op resist for stuns, also usually stuns last only till 1 hit, but omg wtf can I do if he last longer?
Btw I like tomato soup cause its tasty thats why im going to get some right now, cya bb hf .

+1. Damn i agree, btw lets nerf sof also and tol, those fking skills are op! Vengeance should last 5 seconds only!! Cancel on the other hand should cast in 1 second, 2 secs re use and should remove all buff bar, armor and weapon from char... oh and jewels!
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Phonex

the only way a tank can live is with stun, cuz its their main defense, and u wanna fok it? heheh, nice try xD, we already have vengeance fuked when u used with dagger, cuz it focks ur attack speed, and now u wanna take off stun?  im a da/th and i have had lots of pvps vs tanks, archers and more, and i have win and lose some pvps, but i event not get so much stun like u said, i get stun from time to time, and yes when i stun a mage it has a big rate, but its cuz its a mage, has less con, vs tank i have a 75% chance, same have them, and archer with stun +21 not always stun me, so plz dont make this a cry topic, leave stun like it is,  4 years with a fuke DA and now that skills work almost all like the should, u wanna fuked again :D,  hehe.

P.S. remember that track dont feel so good, he was at hospital last weekend, so plz leave him rest :D
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Peorexo

Only stun chance to alive? Come on! Dont joke with me, all tank combos in 90% are tank/dagger and 9% mage/tank
And dont tell me that dagger sdont make damage for all class who are not /tank, even without really good equipment for dagger they're able to hit for 2-4k or even more. So they use stun only to cast 2 blows and say gf cuz they made new chars and trying to be pro...
Think about all class's

NOT ALL HAVE CASH TO GET +6 VESPER WITH 400/600 ATRB lol....

And oly shouldnt be only for goodgeared players, cuz some guys just know how to play there char, and THEY should be hero not a guy who just clicking F1 or sometimes F2 by missclick ...

ylim

there is life out of oly...