Constructive topic Daggers Vs Mages

[=^TrackZero^=]

As i heard recently some people are braking items and quitting on purpose and reason is daggers now sux and mages (especially sps/ee) kick ass badly everyone, i wanna heard your FACTS whats going on , ofc with facts step by step, so here it is i open a debate about it

[J4cKDan13L]

As i heard recently some people are braking items and quitting on purpose and reason is daggers now sux and mages (especially sps/ee) kick ass badly everyone, i wanna heard your FACTS whats going on , ofc with facts step by step, so here it is i open a debate about it

is that a joke xD?

[ribera]

is not sps/ee is mages/ tanks in uds they have same pdef on robe than on heavy i think.

[=^TrackZero^=]

is that a joke xD?

No, they are quite serious ...

[qwertyzxc]

bullshits i kill both easy   ( but yes i failed my fist from +8 to +9 QQ ) xD

[J4cKDan13L]

No, they are quite serious ...

becuz they are bored to win everytime xD don't U see the olympiads points that daggers reach in the end of the month =D?

[qwertyzxc]

becuz they are bored to win everytime xD don't U see the olympiads points that daggers reach in the end of the month =D?

u mean uiuiostrov with vesper +15 and set full atribute ( 600 each ) ? xD i dont see any problem kill someone if u have items like this

[Blind]

600 attrb value in one part of armor ?!
Since I am a player of x15 i can not judge gameplay here but as far as i know we have similar game physics just your attrb deffence is " a bit" higher and on Dn x 15 we dont have any problem with dagger dmg. Good dagger is able to kill mage/tank in 3-4 stabs.

[VforVanilla]

My point is different: Light daggers sux badly as DNET Vesper light bonuses are a joke while DNET heavy is total OP and full of debuff resistance bonuses like sleep/root res +70% (if not count the op robe stun res+50%) while light except atkspd/patk doesn't have anything to offer (Really if DNET dynasty had the patk bonus of dnet vesper there wouldn't be any particular reason to use vesper as dynasty gives a lot more stat bonuses). Ofc i should count also that Dagger/PP on Heavy take 25% Critical damage reduction which they SHOULDN'T as this is exclusive bonus of heavy mastery of tanks and not of Orc/Dwarf and PP.

[Sesshomaru]

600 attrb value in one part of armor ?!
Since I am a player of x15 i can not judge gameplay here but as far as i know we have similar game physics just your attrb deffence is " a bit" higher and on Dn x 15 we dont have any problem with dagger dmg. Good dagger is able to kill mage/tank in 3-4 stabs.

3-4 stabs in mague/tank and 1 stabs for mague/ no tank?  i think that is no good XD

because dagger whit pvp weapons cancels buff now, and they hit hard th/pp(dyna dagger +6-7) hit me for around 4.2k(bastacks) in my sws/ee ( vesper robe +5 atribute 350+ for each part) so maybe the problem is tank class.

this is my opinion.

[Peorexo]

Mages ain't, op only some of them with weapons +12-15 and full resist in sets can be deadly for lower geared players, but Dagger with set and weapon SAME like mage, will always kill mage (all), so i dont believe daggers can QQ -.-

[DarkLoverPL]

Mages ain't, op only some of them with weapons +12-15 and full resist in sets can be deadly for lower geared players, but Dagger with set and weapon SAME like mage, will always kill mage (all), so i dont believe daggers can QQ -.-

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